you know call me a dirty incest apologist but i think its VERY funny that people are out here unironically softening and romanticizing bill and ford, but WE'RE the ones sexualizing fucked up relationships
coming back to this blog not to offer stancest but pinescest bc i am possessed with an image of mid college dipper and Mabel and Dipper slowly goes fully obsessed with Mabel thinking she's literally a goddess and torn between wanting to worship her and fucking her and being her literal pet and being her tradwife
and the ultimate reveal being that Mabel got her hands on some sort of magical device that incurs religious obsession in people, usually used to make cults, but has been focusing it entirely on Dipper so he'll stop dating girls and has grown addicted to the power and adoration and decides to fully commit to this little two person cult
and then he eats her out for hours and she lets him edge on her leg until he has a 'revelation' and invents a prayer to his new goddess <3
coming back to this blog not to offer stancest but pinescest bc i am possessed with an image of mid college dipper and Mabel and Dipper slowly goes fully obsessed with Mabel thinking she's literally a goddess and torn between wanting to worship her and fucking her and being her literal pet and being her tradwife
and the ultimate reveal being that Mabel got her hands on some sort of magical device that incurs religious obsession in people, usually used to make cults, but has been focusing it entirely on Dipper so he'll stop dating girls and has grown addicted to the power and adoration and decides to fully commit to this little two person cult
and then he eats her out for hours and she lets him edge on her leg until he has a 'revelation' and invents a prayer to his new goddess <3
i really like the idea where Stan would wake up from nightmares of his brother and making sure he’s with him. Ford will give kisses, stay till he’s calm down
Joker being perverted and flirtatious and psychosexual with the b@k1ds because he sees them as an extension of Bruce, and there's no part of Bruce that J can allow to go untouched and untainted by him. He needs to own Bruce completely, and by extension, he needs to own his family, as well.
wait i love this but also they'd all have such stark differences in how to handle it and admittedly this is all based in my readings of the various Bat Kids and Joker
So take this with a grain of salt but-
Dick would pull from the Mcginnis book of how to fuck with the joker and just start going back EVEN HARDER and it would loop back around to freaking J out bc he would expect literally anything else other than that and he wouldn't know how to respond and then Dick would put his escrima stick to this head like 'haha... anyway-' and go back to his SMOKIN HOT ALIEN GF. Dick's been at this the longest he'd be completely numb to it after a point. It's just part of Joker's wierd gimmick to Dick that he also plays at being a pedo, by the time he's nightwing he never thinks about it again.
Damien wouldn't even react he'd just treat all these wierd come ons about how much more he 'takes after his father' like a wave over the rocks because like- im SURE there was a lot of psychological torture parts of the league of assassins training, so he'd just be like 'shut the fuck up my literal grandfather threatened me with MUCH worse when i was like five'
Babs Steph and Cass it would just sort of wash over them too, not the first time a supervillain's been gross about them, won't be the last, Babs alone has had like FIVE Batgirl related stalkers
Duke would just criticize his game like he had submitted an mla formatted come on and Duke was his peer reviewer, he would kinda pull from Dick and just play on the fact that Joker's got so little game he has to creep on his obsessive nemesis' kids just to pretend hes got game
Jason and Tim i think would be the interesting ones
Because Jason, like- Joker ABSOLUTELY did this to him that night with the crowbar, it was part of the beating for SURE, so when he's back- just another reason he's scum. this would bother Jason. Like, a lot. Especially if he ever catches Joker doing it to the others in any way because Jason is TOUCHY about messing with kids. Like we're doing Under the Red Hood 2 Electric Boogaloo here and he's not gonna 'make bruce make a choice' he's just gonna do it himself. go full Joker Must Die more than usual and since he was able to do it once he can probably do it again. Jason would ironically be the one Joker would do it the least to anyway, since he already got to him with that crowbar in the first place, it's already hit its obsessive peack with Jason so it wouldn't be as fun.
But Tim... now Tim's interesting. Tim would, i think, be Joker's favorite. Because Tim IDOLIZED Bruce, he wanted to be Robin because Bruce NEEDED a Robin or he'd go too far, when Damien supplanted him he made his new hero persona an elevated robin rather than anything specific to himself like Dick or Jason. Tim would respond to Joker in the most Bruce-Like way out of anyone. and for all that the kids are ALL extensions of Bruce, there's gotta be something SPECIFIC to the Bruce's isms that made it worth latching onto him like how he has. Joker's favorite is ABSOLUTELY Tim.
And Tim doesn't have the mental walls up quite as well as Bruce does, this kid goes unhinged p. quickly, heaven help him if this is during bruce's presumed death and Dick's taken over being batman for a bit because Joker's probably given up on trying to do much with Dick so he'd go ALL IN on Tim, since Tim's just getting started as Red Robin and he's not being protected because Dick's got Damien to look after, so he's just gotta worry about getting the rest of the Young Justice Kiddos out of the way.
Tim was in a DARK place at that point, even going so far at the time as to start referring to himself as 'Tim Wayne' because he was so hyperfocused on his position in Bruce's life. If Joker wanted to 'have a way' with any of the batkids, he'd have the best shot at actually WINNING with Tim, but only around this part of things
In short, I want F-rd to be ruined. Infantilized, feminized, objectified, turned into a pet. He is an anime girl to me. I want F-rd to bottom in such a way that his portrayal would lead people to suspect I’m a misogynist or homophobe (or worse, that I lack media literacy). If it doesn’t give 90% of people the ick, I’m not interested! I want him to be OOC! I want him to be fucked brainless, to the extent that his canonical characterization is jettisoned out the window at 5000 mph.
YEAHHH!!!! it's literally so fun when people take a seemingly put together, Distinguished Man, and absolutely wreck him. I will stand by that forever, IDC
see when people think 'Bottom Ford' they think the blushy nerd from the late 60s-early 70s, they think teen era, but NO
thats not fun
We want this old hyper intelligent hyper competant sci fi action antihero old man bouncing and moaning on it we want him with a collar with a little bell around his neck humping the furniture bc thats the only way he can be trusted to edge himself without slipping up and cumming
We dont want him in control we want him rock hard when his brother tousles his hair and calls him a good boy
An In-Depth Look at how The Stans are the Most Canon and, Yes, Most Romantic Ship In Gravity Falls.
*Wierdmageddon Part 3 is out. So it should go without saying that this whole article is not spoiler free. You’ve been warned, amigos.
*This article is looking at evidence pointing towards a more-than-brotherly-bond between two brothers in a canon setting. It is a large, overarching and exhaustive look at the relationship these two had. If that ain’t your cup of tea (or you are potentially triggered by the contents within) do yourself a favor and DON’T READ. No matter what this article does or doesn’t say, the boys still sailed away on their canon ship in the end and you can still read into that in any way you want or choose to.
Entertaining myself with the idea that Stan made a care package for when Ford comes home. Like, after Stan activated the portal and the countdown started, he spent the next day going around town buying Ford’s favorite snacks (jellybeans), Sci-Fi novels and movies, and pretty much anything Ford might like, and made a little care package he was planning to give to Ford. But then the fight happened, and Stan was too heartbroken and mad to give it, so the care package was forgotten about.
(Bonus)
After Weirdmageddon, Ford actually finds the care package by chance when he was rummaging around the kitchen. He was stunned by it. He looks at it closely: there’s jellybeans—both the regular kind, and the fancy artisan-flavoured ones; the full box set of Star-Trek; a book series called Harry Potter? Don’t know what it’s about, but it looks interesting. And…it has pretty much everything he likes and might like.
There’s also a card. Ford opens it, and inside, in Stan’s writing are the words: “Welcome Home, Sixer.”
Ford put the card down, took out a bag of jellybeans, starts eating it, and then begins to cry right in the middle of the kitchen floor as he continues to eat the jellybeans.
And then when Stan came in kitchen, Ford hug-tackled him to the floor.
Something I think about so much is just how different the Stanley Pines we see in ATOTS is from the Grunkle Stan we know in the rest of the show.
Like, have you ever noticed just how much more expressive Stan is in 1983? The guy wears his heart on his sleeve so much more than he does later on. At almost every moment you can tell exactly what he's thinking and feeling just from his face, something that will become a lot rarer for him. Even setting aside the portal incident scene itself, have y'all ever watched the Dusk 2 Dawn scene and just watched Stan's face? He looks so… openly sad.
It's not just his expressions. Here's a detail that only just occurred to me: you guys ever think it's weird that Stan doesn't just try to steal the bread from Dusk 2 Dawn? Like, you'd think his stealing habit would've originated from his years on the street stealing to survive, but no— he tries to pay for the bread, and then when he doesn't have any money, he figures out how to get some. It's surprisingly honest.
And just like… I don't know, his whole vibe is so different. He's come from this life of hardship completely willing to talk things through. He's emotional, he's open, and not exactly what you'd expect to see when you imagine what a younger Grunkle Stan might have been like. In fact, his vibe is so different that, in Journal 3, Ford writes that when he first saw Stan, he assumed he was just in another alternate dimension rather than the one he came from.
Anyway, it just makes me think about the transition of how, exactly, he went from one to the other. How we go from the "stubborn, frostbitten vagabond" to the "carnival barker" he is by the show's present. I think about that in-between Stan a lot. Realizing that the hole in his heart, the one he thought was caused by his circumstance for so long, hadn't disappeared even now that he had money and a steady place to live. Growing more bitter and grumpy by the day, learning that maybe it's just better if he shuts himself off from the world so nobody has a chance to hurt him. Seeing himself aging and finding himself no closer to saving Ford. Ship of Theseus-ing himself into the carefully curated asshole that maybe even he thinks he is.
I feel like Stans sleep schedule should be talked about more. During the 30 years of fixing the portal, he was busy running the shack during the day, and worked on the portal at night, so when did he sleep? Naps during the day? After work for a bit? Early morning for an hour or so before he had to get up for work again? Has he gone days without sleep before? Do you think he has a hard time sleeping some of the time after he finally didn't need to get up and fix the portal anymore? What do you think Fords reaction would be?
NO NO BECAUSE THIS IS SOOOOO TRUE
god it would be so juicy if like. one night ford goes to sleep, and maybe its like. 11pm or so?? and stan is just watching tv or something. they don't say anything to each other, ford is still in his bitchy ass phase so he just gets some work done and goes to sleep.
but then he wakes up at 4am or so and like, idk, maybe he's thirsty and goes up to get some water. but then he hears the tv is still on
he rolls his eyes, thinking about how stan is wasting electricity in his house falling asleep to the tv like that. He grumbles in annoyance and goes to the living room and...
stan is awake.
in the exact same spot he was in before.
i don't think theyd talk about it right away. Ford definitely wouldn't. and he tries to convince himself he's not concerned (he is concerned)
honestly i dont think he'd take that one night at face value though. i think he'd probably, for the next few nights, set an alarm for himself in the middle of the night and check to see if stan's awake
9 times out of 10, he is.
moving forward i think ford would probably ask about it, in his own way. not sure how--probably dickish in however he says it--but i don't think stan actually explains why.
Why would he? Ford would probably say how stupid he was to risk his health in order to save him, or some shit like that. As if he wouldn't do anything for Ford.
As if he wouldn't die for him, if he had to.
and the dancing around the issue just makes ford more aggravated, more angry. they definitely have a fight about it that i don't think is ever resolved until post weird.
OOH WAIT. while stan is still getting his memories back he kinda notices that he...doesn't sleep often? Like, every time he tries, he has this uneasy feeling like he's wasting time? so he asks ford about it...
BETTER YET. what if in that fight it WAS brought up?? stan finally told him it was because he was working on the portal. And ford, whose first reaction tends to be anger when something upsets him, talks down to him.
"Ya wanna know why? You really wanna know why, Poindexter?" Stan asks, taking a swig of his soda and wishing it was something else entirely.
Ford just glares at him icily. "I wouldn't be asking if I--"
"The portal."
Ford blinks at him. "What about the portal?" he mutters, raising an unimpressed eyebrow.
"I worked my ass day and night. I ran the shop in the mornin' to pay bills--the bills you never paid, by the way--and at night I was down here, bustin' my ass trying to get that stupid fuckin' machine to work," Stan starts, staring directly at Ford. "I read mountains of textbooks just tryin' to understand one ounce of it if it meant I could get you back."
Irritation bubbles up inside his body as Ford just stares at him, expression indistinguishable. Stan sighs, letting it go. "Dontcha get it? Sleep was a luxury in those days--I couldn't lose any free time i had to shit like that. I needed to get you back--that was the priority." He shrugs. "I guess my body just got used to it."
Ford stares at him for a long moment. Stan forces himself to look away.
Finally, he hears in a low, cold tone:
"I didn't ask you to do that."
Stan doesn't know why he thinks anything is going to change any time soon. He had this grand old idea that maybe, just maybe, Ford would be willing to be brotherly with him one day. That maybe, he could treat him like he actually cared.
That maybe, one day in the distant future, he would smile at him and finally say thank you, Stanley.
He doesn't know why he still bothers trying.
"All of your self-destructive behaviors are your own fault," Ford spits at him. "I didn't ask you to rebuild the portal. I didn't ask you to save me. You didn't have to save me."
And instead of being angry at this point, he's just fucking tired.
"No," Stan says, before glancing back up at Ford, his voice quiet but firm. "No, I didn't."
And he walks out of the room without another word.
SO ANYWAYS. post weird, stan notices he just...doesn't like to sleep?? and he asks ford about it and ford's face just turns white as a ghost.
ill that here for now bc i didn't expect to write anything HAHA those are my thoughts!!
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