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I can't even remember the fucking name. I'm so sad 😭
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why did I come back to find out my favorite AO3 got deleted? I'm actually so heartbroken I was so invested and then forgot about it. Bro, I can't believe this.
I can't even remember the fucking name. I'm so sad 😭
Twitter and Tumblr reactions to SNL are so vastly different, I'm taken aback-
Maybe I've been on Twitter too long lol
All I can take from Duffer's shifty writing is that I never want become like them. It makes me actually wanna write and get better with my own story I'm working on. Like, omg, it's that bad.
I always wanted a story of something supernatural, sci-fi, or horror as the main plot, but have main characters be gay and have a romance subplot that's well-made. Stranger Things could've been that, but Duffer decided to cop out at the last minute. It's honestly so disappointing bc it could've been great, and now it's just a dumpster fire.
Even besides Byler, the writing quality really plummeted at vol. 2 and 3. The claim they'll tie up loose ends but in the end, they left even more. I really don't understand how people around them allowed this and I wonder if the other writers had a voice in this. We know Noah tried to give suggestions but they shut down most of his suggestions.
One day, I hope we can get this kind of story again, but be written by people who genuinely care for their characters and the community they claim to be writing for. Overall, I'm completely done with Stranger Things, not sure about Byler, but I want this new year for me to improve myself, to commit to things I care about and am interested in. I can't dwell on Byler and the disaster of S5 since school is starting in 4 days for me, and I'm gonna be really busy. I'm still so happy to be part of this community, and how creative and intelligent you guys are, as well as funny.
Hope your guys' year is better than before, even with a bad start!
our king spencer created a video with all the plotholes and dawg. there's probably still more. holy FUCK
I finally cried and man, I feel numb. Like wow. Idk what to say other than I hope the Duffers are happy with their horrid ending and queerbait. You really got us. 😐
I want to forget this ever happened, imma need some of y'all to give me any recommendations of any good queer stories, preferably in the horror, sci-fi, and or supernatural genres. Please.
Leigh (Ross exwife) has the opportunity to do the funniest shit ever. (Put Noah and Finn in a movie together but actually let their characters get together.)
Manifesting it lmao it would be hilarious
what sucks the most about this whole fuckass queerbait is that i’m still absolutely certain that byler was the plan at some point. i’m so sick and done with creators who point and laugh at us. i can’t wait for like ten years from now when some fired writers or the cast or somebody with balls will be free and brave enough to speak about the stranger things shitshow. fuck the duffers. genuinely.
Y’all we seriously need to talk about Kali, byler aside, what they did to her was the most foul fucking thing ever. Like oh my god it’s been hours and I can’t get over it what the actual fuck were they thinking.
YES, I'M SO FUCKING MAD ABT THAT TOO.
yk what I'm not even that upset about byler I'm more mad that we got FUCKING NOTHING ON MIKE. I wish they had given us something. SOMETHING. It's so unfair, THE ONE THING I WANTED FROM VOL 2 IS MIKE POV, and nothing. If there were some crumbs, holy shit that's some small ass crumbs. AT LEAST THEY COULD'VE EXPLORED HIS MENTAL HEALTH OR SOMETHING!!! I'm so pissed that they STILL have us on Will's unreliable ass pov.
THEY RUIN HIS FUCKING CHARACTER. What the actual fuck. I can't believe it, I can't believe they made him a nothingburger cardboard cutout. He literally has no character arc, nothing. They did him so dirty. They are such pussies to cop out like that.
Stranger Things will be remembered for this
So. My thoughts. Where do I even begin?
First, I want to say that not only was this the most disgusting queerbait I’ve ever had the misfortune of experiencing or witnessing, but this entire season was perhaps the most sloppy, most unsatisfactory and underwhelming conclusions to a show I have ever seen. No, I’m not being dramatic.
Byler aside, and I will get to that, but byler aside, this was a travesty of plot and character alike. A train wreck in slow motion. Who the fuck greenlit this?
This story was once compelling. Unique. Interesting with the perfect amount of mystery to keep viewers invested. And this final season failed to answer practically all questions audiences had for the last decade. What is the upside down? Apparently a wormhole, never mind that they never elaborate on this at all, we have marvel action sequences to film!
How does the upside down look like a mirror of Hawkins? Who the fuck knows. Why was Will taken? Who knows! What did Hopper discuss with Brenner and the other lab people in s1? Who knows! How did Will call Joyce on the phone and do all of the other things we saw in s1? Who knows! Every single question you could entertain, they provide no explanation. Why? Because the writers probably had no clue themselves, and nothing makes that more apparent than this so called finale.
Next, the characters. Christ alive, the characters. We spent 10 years building up two different love triangles that amounted in absolutely nothing. Who writes something like that? Genuinely what was the point? That’s the thing, there was no point. The writers didn’t know what to do with any of these characters or their complex relationships, so they decided to do nothing at all.
They claimed they were not going to leave anything ambiguous, and yet the entire story, the supernatural plot and the character conclusions was left nothing but. It is astounding to me, almost unthinkable to me, that people sat down and wrote this and thought it was a good conclusion. As a writer myself, as someone who has been storytelling since I was 10 years old and as someone who is truly and deeply passionate about the craft, I am speechless. In fact, speechless doesn’t even begin to cover it. I am in disbelief, more like it.
I think as far as characters go, no character is decimated quite like Mike Wheeler. So, his conclusion is what exactly? Misery forever? Absolutely nothing about his actions throughout the show make sense narratively. He quite literally is a nothingburger character if there ever were one. It’s a damn tragedy to me, a total waste of potential. Had they actually written Mike and El’s relationship to be compelling in any sense of the word, perhaps I would have given a damn when El had her whole bullshit monologue and suicide.
Scratch that, we don’t even know if she died. Again, ambiguous bullshit to cop-out for the fact that they didn’t know what to do with her character.
Onto byler, the elephant in the room. Bylers, do not ever let anyone make you feel stupid, or crazy. This was queerbait, to a degree I have never witnessed until now. Malicious and disgusting, and above all cowardly. We did not even get a confrontation or discussion between Mike and Will about Will’s feelings for him. They were such pussies that they could not even do that much. It’s absolutely ridiculous. I could say more on this topic, but I will leave it at this: I genuinely hope this destroys their careers irreversibly. No matter what you ship or what you like or don’t like, they did indeed bait queer viewers, and they baited everyone else too by refusing to elaborate on the relationships Mike had with El and Will. It was again, a travesty for all three characters, a goddamn assassination. 3 for 3 in one go. Do I have to repeat myself? I’m speechless.
This show will be remembered for this. It will be remembered only for this ending. Rarely do shows stick the landing and have satisfying finales. I can count only a few on my fingers. Breaking Bad, probably the best show ever written. Better Call Saul? Arguably even better. ATLA? Amazing. TLoK, though it had some flaws, was also still wonderful. Death Note? Iconic. These are some of my favorite stories, as a lover of writing. I love good storytelling, at the end of the day. I love compelling plots and characters with depth, with meat to them and something to ponder and discuss with others.
Stranger Things? Hollow, lacking in soul and heart all across the board, from the characters to the relationships to the overall plot.
This was quite literally the worst series finale to any media I think I’ve ever seen. It shocks me to my core. It’s so bad that it retroactively destroys the entire series leading up to it. I feel sorry for the actors, who deserved a better conclusion. I feel sorry for the time we all wasted on this. And most of all, I feel sorry for the fans. All of us, no matter your favorite character, ship etc.
We the fans deserved better. And that thought, and that thought alone, is what I will think for the remainder of my life in connection to this show. And that makes me sad, more than anything.
i choose to believe that something happens in college
The finale was so bad that Byler not being endgame is not even what pisses me off the most. In fact, I was prepared for there being a chance that Byler wouldn’t be endgame. I was prepared.
I wasn’t prepared for the finale as a whole to be this bad. It was dry, basic and boring. I was watching the final battle and I was so so bored. After it was over, I skim watched the Mlvn scene and epilogue because I couldn’t sit through that shit anymore. I was too mad.
I don’t really know how they fumbled the bag this badly. All the fan theories I’ve seen are better than this ending. Honestly, this ending was a nothingburger. It doesn’t even feel real because it was that bad.
how about. we all pretend season 5 never existed. make loads of fanfics and fanart. and LIVE IN DENIAL BECAUSE THATS BETTER THAN THIS BULLSHIT
"it's a story about Will"
WHERE??????? WHERE?????
HE WAS BARELY THERE!!!!!!!
MAN FUCK THE DUFFERS AND SHAWN LEVY
i dont fucking care what the queerbait brothers have to say. mike wheeler is a closeted gay man and in love with will byers. fuck you
Here after watching Season Finale of stranger things.
What if
We pretend season 5 didn't fucking happen!!!!!!?? Because WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT???????????????
Byler LOST milven LOST I LOST WHAT THE FUCK
byler will always be endgame to me idc