I saw some discourse on twt about dick in tt and yj actually being tim because tim is the detective what do you say?
I’ve discussed this before, and it essentially comes down to: “people trained by same man possessing same mantle have similar skills and traits, news at 11”, but seeing as I’ve said all of this before, one thing that does bother me is specifically about the pants.
Sure, you could say that modern Dickbin has been retconned to wear pants as he gets older, thereby making the versions of Dick that wear pants canon. Someone else could say “well that’s also ripping off Tim’s design”, and you could get in a whole debacle about that. I don’t really care who has a patent on pants. What bothers me is when the conversation eventually devolves into “which is better” or “why does your guy suck more than my guy”, whereupon the inclusion of pants is always treated as this kind of objective win. Or the color of the costume, for that matter. As though the leotard and the vibrancy were automatic demerits to Dick, and it’s so obvious that Tim is trouncing Dick style-wise because, come on, pants.
Tim’s costume, and the changes he made, makes sense for him because he’s the normal kid from Gotham. This was a good character choice for him. Character choice. Dick is from a circus. I love the ties to Dick’s circus heritage. I really dislike modern renditions of Dick that add the pants or reduce the saturation of his uniform. And frankly, call me Missus Offended, but I think it’s insulting to Dick’s heritage to treat these things as automatically lesser than the more “normal” look of later costumes. To me it’s almost a microcosm of that era in hero books where everyone got rid of their “cringy unrealistic” uniforms to wear bikers jackets and tactical suits. Except, whereas the public eventually embraced Superman’s trunks or the blue Batman suit again, Dick’s costume — which is arguably the most grounded in who he is and his culture — is not viewed in the same manner. Why are we deploying cringe culture against a teenage acrobat trying to carry some of the legacy and attributes of his dead parents, because “lol no pants”? What about the leotard, besides deferring to “no pants”, is bad design?
It just makes me miffed, especially when comics throughout various canons have attempted to ground both the Robin and the Discowing design in the Graysons’ uniforms. This isn’t what you were asking, but I delivered it regardless. Alas.





















