[championoftheoppressed]

Crowley and Aziraphale through the years.

[afrenchwriter]

I don’t think Aziraphale’s love for Crowley was is the most predictable thing in the universe.

I think it's the opposite, actually.

Yes, Aziraphale is an angel, he loves, that’s what he does. But he’s not supposed to love a demon. Because of what he is, of who he is, he struggled with his feelings for Crowley for millennia. And yet, each time they met, he made the choice to speak with him, to protect him, to stay, to bond - to love.

In a universe in which angels and demons are supposed to be hereditary enemies, an angel chose a demon, over and over again (with a few notable exceptions, but we all know why - and he still loved him).

Messy? Oh, yes.

Silly? How can such a relationship, built on trust and affection, be silly?

Predictable? More like ineffable.

[ineffablelunatics]

S3 Good Omens Spoilers. This isn’t complaining about anything. It’s thoughts on Crowley’s decisions towards the end. It’s a meta ramble. Have a nice day/night/whenever 😊

Crowley sets the new universe up the exact opposite of his star systems. All of them were pre-aged. Made to look like they were there billions of years before they were so that when humans looked at them later; they’d believe the universe was older than it was. It’s in the same vein as “the dinosaurs were a joke that the paleontologists hadn’t worked out yet.”

No afterlives, none of that. Just energy going where it needs to go. Souls melting back into the universe wherever they’re needed until the inevitable heat death of the everything. In his words, “Humans are gonna human.”

In his set up though, there definitely could be aliens. There could also be a Doctor Who. Imagine that!

[ineffablelunatics]

Spoilers for the Good Omens finale(and S4 of Umbrella Academy only a little). Just thoughts

Why do some writers think that it’s a happy ending when their characters erase themselves from existence, specifically to save the universe? All I hear is, “the universe is going to end because of you, the universe is genuinely better off without you, the universe only wants to exist without you in it.” They fought so long and hard for a peaceful life. They wanted to just be happy and left alone.

Somehow they managed to make the hated ‘turning them into humans’ even worse. Those two were just two people who had their faces and hair color. Didn’t even style their hair the same. If Crowley and Aziraphale had turned human(a short life to them since they’re immortals, but their human bodies would be their 50s) , they’d probably accidentally kill themselves within the week, but at least they’d be themselves.

Look, I’m extremely happy that we got an ending at all after S2. I’m just tired that that ending has happened twice to my favorite shows(Umbrella Academy) which both had terribly traumatized people de-exist themselves to save a universe that believed it was better off without them. Also, in both, the universe gets remade. They didn’t even save the people that they began with. It just restarted.

My opinion doesn’t matter. I just like running my mouth. If you liked it, that’s great. Did I hate it? No. It was….fine. It needed time that they didn’t have which isn’t their fault. If it still ended with the doppelgängers though, I’m not sure that I would’ve been happier. I’m done now. Hope you have a nice day :)

*any time I say their/they, I mean the people who were working on the show*

[riversongssonicstrap]

the virgin umbrella academy message ("your suffering and trauma is your fault and you should be erased from existence for the benefit of others") vs the chad deadpool and wolverine message ("no matter what's happened you can get better, you can find love and continue forward even at rock bottom")

[ineffablelunatics]

It just happened to the finale of Good Omens as well. Why do some writers think that it’s a happy ending when they make their characters erase themselves from existence? Especially when they fought so long for a peaceful life.

[i-eat-dirt-20]

If they were animated I would call their noses peak character design

[victims-of-love]

Yes! I think about this constantly!

I love how Michael's features point up (towards heaven) and David's features point down (to hell). Michael's face has soft curves (like an angel), whereas David has sharp edges (demonic).

It not only suits their characters so much, it also emphasises how Aziraphale and Crowley are polar opposites.

I can't believe that they are real people, because from a character design standpoint they are made for their roles.

[iforgiveyouprime]

https://x.com/i/status/2053505395193192902

AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

[iforgiveyouprime]

The void around them... the bookshop where the light is always on for them... and some creep following them, WHAT IS HAPPENING

I’m already seeing theories that in the end there’ll be nothing left except the bookshop, BUT PLEASE NO, I’M SCARED.

And by the way, this intro is different from the other two because in the first two they’re always going somewhere. But now they’ve finally arrived. At the bookshop. Their home.

[iforgiveyouprime]

MY GOD THIS IS FROM SEASON 1

YOU GET IT GUYS?!!!!

[ineffable-crow]

OH MY GOD THIS WHOLE TIME THEY WERE WALKING TOWARDS THE BOOKSHOP?????

[iforgiveyouprime]

THEY WERE!!!!!

[iforgiveyouprime]

https://x.com/i/status/2053505395193192902

AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

[ineffable-crow]

THEY ARE WALKING TOGETHER (towards the bookshop???)

[ineffablelunatics]

I choose to believe that the guy ‘flirting’ with Aziraphale thinks that Crowley’s affiliated with Ms. Sandwich’s shop. Or just more of the shopkeepers. The sweet bookshop owner living it up with the pimp from across the street in a fancy car with dark glasses

[rougeside10]

@vidavalor Apparently Mr.Brown thinks Crowley is a pimp!😂

[vidavalor]

Oh, a topic I know well! lol. I think Mr. Brown went for escort just because of Aziraphale's personality and Mr. Brown's crush on him but I could see it. Crowley's been mistaken for that before. It's the sunglasses and dark clothes. That's likely why he and Mrs. Sandwich put up that "don't pay the guy in the blue glasses-- he doesn't work here" sign on the door. (Blue, in its meaning of erotic.)

Crowley is the exact opposite of a pimp but people have absolutely mistaken him at different times for that before, as well as one of the seamstresses. He's just the house cat, though.

[youryurigoddess]

This is your reminder to reread Good Omens before the Finale

In the jeep, Crowley was cursing. Aziraphale laid a hand on his shoulder.

“There are humans here,” he said.

“Yes,” said Crowley. “And me.”

“I mean we shouldn’t let this happen to them.”

“Well, what—” Crowley began, and stopped.

“I mean, when you think about it, we’ve got them into enough trouble as it is. You and me. Over the years. What with one thing and another.”

“We were only doing our jobs,” muttered Crowley.

“Yes. So what? Lots of people in history have only done their jobs and look at the trouble they caused.”

“You don’t mean we should actually try to stop Him?”

“What have you got to lose?”

Crowley started to argue, and realized that he hadn’t anything. There was nothing he could lose that he hadn’t lost already. They couldn’t do anything worse to him than he had coming to him already. He felt free at last.

[ineffablelunatics]

I choose to believe that the guy ‘flirting’ with Aziraphale thinks that Crowley’s affiliated with Ms. Sandwich’s shop. Or just more of the shopkeepers. The sweet bookshop owner living it up with the pimp from across the street in a fancy car with dark glasses

[ineffablelunatics]

“I looked for fingerprints through a magnifying glass, and fingerprints.”

Aziraphale must have put them in charge of finding the Book of Life/whoever stole it. He doesn’t trust the archangels not to lie to him. If they’re in Heaven, who’s watching the bookshop, or are they going back in forth? Giving updates?

[bl0ndwave]

So it was Saraqael's voice in the elevator in the trailer!

Interesting. We discussed that option on @whickberstreetwriters Discord.

Also, ffs, why at 8 PM? You're making it impossible for me to figure out your schedule! 😂

[onceuponathyme]

I love how Good Omens sets up delivery as a major motif.

Deirdre and Harriet give birth.

"I should know. I delivered the baby. Well, not 'delivered' delivered... Handed it over."

Leslie delivers the items of the apocalypse to the Horsepeople.

Baddicombe delivers the box containing the Further Nice and Accurate Prophecies of Agnes Nutter.

Gabriel (the "stripper delivery-gram") arrives with a box and a message he can't remember.

Bildad and Aziraphale use their obstetrics skills to deliver the newt children.

Maggie's note in the mail slot. Shax delivers Crowley's mail. Furfur delivers a playbill to Hell. Broken liquor bottles to a theatre. Bodies and not-herring soup to a surgeon. Pneumatic tubes in the opening sequence. Aziraphale steps into the Dirty Donkey elevator -- which has a mail slot in its door -- on his way to be delivered to Heaven.

So delivery surely has major significance to the finale.

The nativity?

The salvation definition of deliverance, as in, "And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil"?

No.

Jesus delivers pizza.

[fuckyeahgoodomens]

Good Omens Finale clip! :) <3

[fuckyeahgoodomens]

[noneorother]

Deep in the weeds after midnight theory time : I’m sorry Crowley did what now?

I’ve been mulling over why Crowley gave away his escape plan to Gabriel and Beelzebub after they were found out for so long now. Look at what he suggests :

Which, in the show up until now has always been code for :

So he’s basically showing Beez and Gabriel how and where to run away. This seems like such a selfless act. Aziraphale is so touched! He’s not trying to run away from their problems any more. But here’s the thing.

This coat. This coat is so over the top and expensive as a costume for one scene it defies all logic. It’s *so crazy* that we only see it for 30 seconds when they had so many other things they had to do with less money in this season. There’s no in-story reason we’re given to go outside with a coat on, other than he wants to.

This is the lead costume designer on Good Omens talking about Gabriel’s overcoat for season 2 in the behind the scenes. She confirms this is a giant ostrich feather coat.

So if I’m hearing everyone correctly here, Crowley actually taught an ostrich to run?

[fuzzygoblin]

Crowley ✅

[Muffled]

Job, if you have questions for me, I have questions for you. Do you know how I created the Earth? ✅

Where were you when I laid the foundations of Earth, Job? ✅

Were you there when all the morningstars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy? ✅

[Muffled]

Do you know the rules of the heavens? ✅

Did you set the constellations in the sky? ✅

Can you send lightning bolts and get them to report back to you? ✅

Did you give wings to peacocks, Job?

Or teach the ostrich to run? ✅

Peacocks have to be there somewhere...

[ao3cassandraic]

oh. my. GOD.

yeah. that's there, isn't it. that's totally there.

[noneorother]

AH SHIT @ao3cassandraic I think I found your peacock.

[noneorother]

6 days to go until season three and I’m posting some season 2 theory throwbacks to get you back in the mood! And now if you’re not thinking about Crowley getting to ask God the question then I don’t know that we can be friends…

[ineffablelunatics]

Sometimes a ‘whale’ can be someone who spends a lot of money on gambling. In S3 trailer, we see a casino popping up in SoHo. In a new clip, Crowley’s handing over a gambling chip to Ms.Sandwich