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still a jekyll and hyde nerd. profile picture by @Pizza_Bug on Twitter

[lesbian-janai]

It seems that tennelle flowers has come out with a statement saying that he's going to unfollow sagutoyas but still insists on taking a "neutral" stance against a predator. Sorry but that doesn't make up for all the shit he said to people who were rightfully angry about him supporting a groomer (and he can say what he wants, but we all saw what he did, it was support whether he wants to admit it or not) he's not even unfollowing her because he's realized the dangers of allowing a groomer back into a community full of minors, he's just doing it to avoid bad publicity. and he's still friends with some of sagutoyas' support group, namely her gf aspenshadow who denies the allegations & threatened sally's victim with legal action. On top of all this, he decided to bring tusofsky into this mess, claiming that he was only acting in tus' good will by showing grace to one of her friends who turned out to be a groomer. Tus was a beloved member of the warriors community, but she's dead now, and it's disgusting to bring her into this & act like she would've also supported a groomer when she can't even speak for herself anymore. I'm not accepting tennelle's statement. I don't really know what he can do to redeem himself in my eyes, but it's going to take a lot more than a statement that victimizes himself and one "sorry" to cut it

[tiger-talks-and-doodles]

HEADS UP ALL WARRIOR CATS FANS! (TW: Grooming)

Sagutoyas is trying to claw her way back on to social media, and since Reddit mods removed my post on Reddit (don't get mad, they're overworked n shit), here it is on Reddit: In 2023, Sagutoyas was caught grooming a minor while she was in her 20s and he was (iirc) 15 at the start of the relationship. She pressured him to keep their relationship a secret until he turned 18, and so when he turned 17, he let people know what was happening to him. She also sent NSFW art and read NSFW comics to minors over a voicecall. Because of this disgusting behavior, she was basically cancelled off of the internet and fired from Spindlehorse (who she was working with atp). Now that she's back, there are so many people defending her actions and calling the minors involved "overdramatic" and "faking it." CaptainSnapdragon and TigerTwined commented their excitement for her return while TenelleFlowers liked it. He later posted an explanation behind a paywall. This is what the video below goes into. This is not my own, so go support the creator! DO NOT HARRASS THEM!!!

[wheatstar]

if they really wanted to pull the "people have an easier time getting better with people supporting them" card, they all should have kept their support of sagutoyas private and as far away from their child and teen filled audience as possible. i wont deny that yes, people do get better easier when they have help, but readily giving an ADULT who leveraged a power imbalance over a child to take advantage of that child A PUBLIC PLATFORM FILLED WITH CHILDREN is not "help" its enabling. its incredibly irresponsible and practically asking for it to happen all over again. i hate these people

[iamveryangryalot]

groomer protection squad

[iamveryangryalot]

sagutoeyas

[crocmoss]

vent/rant about the aspen/sagutoyas situation

[lemnnlime]

I don't normally comment on stuff like this but the sagutoyas situation is genuinely infuriating. People who are a danger to children do not belong in communities with children. Why is this controversial?

[iamveryangryalot]

but we're the good guys for hiding and deleting every comment refrencing what happened and considering the victims more in the wrong for not telling a groomer privately that they groomed them lol (<- sagutoyas's groomer simps logic) but we're the good guys for wanting our young and impressionable (or uncritical thinking) fans to stay ignorant and have a reason to strongly defend their favorite artist (to the point of threatening the VICTIMS for SPEAKING OUT ABOUT IT) (<- sagutoyas groomer simps logic)

[iamveryangryalot]

(literally just doesnt wanna hold their "cool artist friend" responsible for affecting multiple children) (thanks to the influence that said "cool artist friend" had with their many followers. the same followers tennelle thinks sagutoyas should keep and still have popularity amongst.)

(also tennelle loves his followers (kids and all) until they expect him to dislike an admitted groomer. then theyre all just annoying whiney kids who are blowing up over ''""nothing""""" all of a sudden)

[iamveryangryalot]

how parasocial >:///// sagutoyas already got a slap on the wrist isnt that enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! who cares if she had innapropriate interactions with minors and then did nothing to prevent them from being harrassed for exposing her (and nothing about anything else)!!!!!!! she deserves her fans :) only stupid kids say otherwise :) (<- groomer squad logic)

[sinceredragonslander]

Tenelleflowers recently posted a new animation on his YouTube channel and he’s pretending like nothing happened lol.

That's nothing compared to what they're saying on Twitter and other platforms. This post was deleted, BTW, but the screenshot is veridic.

Transcript at the end of the post.

And yet, they're using the same Warriors account to promote their Warriors rippoff, so they're still dealing with a young audience of Warrior Cats kids. The same public account where anyone can see him following, supporting and defending a child groomer from that exact fandom.

Oh, but when a fan sucks his boots about how he was their inspiration to start art school, I'm sure they do care. They puff up like a moldy apple.

Another person who doesn't know that social media is supposed to be public, colour me shocked! I guess they've never unfollowed anyone after checking up their followers list. And I guess asking someone to be an adult and not introduce the children to a groomer is too much for the tortured artist.

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Also. One of their main arguments for supporting Sagutoyas is that they believe in "rehabilitation". I'm not going to pretend that I know about how criminal rehabilitation works, because I don't, but I need you to remember a couple of things.

First, there's nothing saying that Sagutoyas has suffered any consequence, legal or not, for her actions against children. She just spent a couple of years without using her main accounts. Tenelle has no reason to believe she will not reoffend sooner or later. Wich is also why he's deleting comments about it on his YT channel, to cover up his ass.

Second, even if Sally was going through a legal process of rehabilitation, giving her back an inch of the influence she had over the exact social group she hurt in the first place is shooting yourself in the foot. You're giving the person charged for reckless driving the steering wheel of a bus.

Third, I can't confirm it, but I'm pretty sure Tenelle hasn't studied law or worked in prisons. So they're pulling shit out of his ass.

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Well, here's the best portrait you're ever going to get of TenelleFlowers, people. An adult parasite roaming on children's spaces who feeds on them as consumers while he publicly supports a groomer. Can't wait for them to pull out the disabled/queer card to defend themselves, honestly.

And don't worry, we'll get to the other pests of StarCats Studio. They have their own shit to cover.

Transcript of the tweet by Tenelle: Haven't been in the Warriors's fandom for years. Who I follow online is nobody's business. And your disappointment means nothing to me. I don't know you.

Your parasocial behaviour is not a healthy mindset to find towards any creators. And I am not a babysitter for children online.

[lesbian-janai]

I did also read clouded moon, which is a book being written by some of sagutoyas' most vocal supporters. I don't want to make this situation about my opinions on the book, but the authors intend on supporting a known child groomer, so I can't in good conscious recommend that anyone buy it. Don't give a cent to people who intend on putting kids in danger by welcoming back a child groomer.

Maybe I'll talk more in depth about how I feel about this book someday, but for now just know that even if this was the best book I've ever read in my life, I still can't recommend it to anyone due to the authors supporting a child groomer.

[iamveryangryalot]

tennelleflowers

(why would you list your job as "social media influencer" and then be mad when people want you to understand how your actions effect others/when other people expect you to INFLUENCE YOUR AUDIENCE)

[sinceredragonslander]

Here's Snapdragon/Captain Morwen not knowing that she with a glass house shouldn't be throwing stones.

Transcript at the end of the post.

Imagine insulting someone (who's rightfully calling you out for supporting a child groomer) by calling them "cat children".

When you yourself, AN ADULT, have spent MORE THAN HALF A DECADE writing a roleplaying fanfic from the same books FOR YOUNG TEENS the "cat children" read and trying to publish it with minimal changes so copyright doesn't bite your ass. You aren't a cat child, you're a cat adult who doesn't think supporting pedophiles is a big deal.

How does someone become this pathetically egotistical is beyond me. How can you be worse than the Warriors fandom?? The Warriors fandom??????

Anyways, this isn't meant to dissuade anyone from writing fanfic of anything they want. Do what your heart desires as long as you don't harm anyone. Do not welcome back groomers.

Transcript: what a mean thing to say to someone. You cat children are something else.

Disagreeing with someone, or even not liking them, is not an excuse to be so vicious.

You can just block and move on, you don't need to harass anyone. But it's more about clout for you, isn't it.

[angstpelt]

the wc YouTube sphere died because for some godforsaken reason everyone there liked children

[meowphogenetic]

Okay so in case she tries to come back:

Artist @/sigmacatdilemma / @/maovu / Sagutoyas who was once popular a popular zero escape artist recently updated her bio and in case she tries to come back, please be aware that she is a predator.

I hate having to make posts like this but do not support her nor her partner @/aspenshadow who has defended her actions.

She was originally called out when she was 25 so the fact that her bio has been updated recently might mark a comeback. Do not welcome her

Her channel:

[lesbian-janai]

I guess I should say a few things for anyone who still follows me on here.

sagutoyas is trying to come back to social media. if you don't know who she is, she was a very popular warriors animator who was revealed to have been grooming a teenager & sending NSFW content to kids as young as 13. she is a dangerous individual who should not be returning to a platform where she can freely interact with minors.

A few people have shown support for her, namely aspenshadow who is currently dating her, as well as tennelle flowers, avalon roselin, captainsnapdragon, tigertwined, and a few more who's names I can't remember at the moment. All of these people have defended sagutoyas & see no harm in her returning to the very platform she used to traumatize several kids.

Let it be known that I do not support sagutoyas, nor do I support anyone who wants to defend her. this was mainly a TDP blog when I left, which is a show I watched because tennelle recommended it. I'm not in the TDP fandom much anymore, but I am still a fan of warriors so I felt the need to say something since that's the fandom that is most involved in this situation.

If you want more information on the situation, I recommend looking into sagutoyasbeware on twitter where the initial statement regarding sagutoyas' behavior can be found. I don't know if there's a dedicated account for the current situation, but this twitter thread basically shows everything that's happened with sagutoyas coming back, certain people supporting her, as well as statements from one of sagutoyas' victims: https://x.com/i/status/2000783403986350499

I won't be active much on this blog, but please know that it is not safe for people who have previously been known to groom children to be allowed back into social media platforms where interaction with children is inevitable & can be without anyone knowing. we should NOT be allowing sagutoyas back, and we should stand against anyone who wants to welcome her back.

Adults have a duty to protect kids, whether we like it or not, ESPECIALLY if we want to dedicate ourselves to media aimed at kids. Protecting kids means not supporting people who are a danger to kids.

That's all I have to say on here for now. Please stay safe