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Endgame................

I’ve never believed I had any right to be angry at GRRMartin for the endgame he was going to provide us, nor about the time he took on writting, I’ve always believed ASOIAF to be his creation and should be so until the very end, and I still do. I’m neither writting to put any blame on the Ds about such a thing as the endgame. Yet, despite of the direction the story finally took I believe I can put some blame on them, again not for the outcome but for the shit they have made beyond that.

D&D: There are several things I’m more than willing to blame them about.

1- The way they spent HBO money and OUR time. Again this is not about the story itself but the way they organized this season. We all knew there were only 6 episodes left and a full lot of shit to do, so things being rushed coud be anticipated. Apparently (cause I don’t know) they were given the chance to make a 10 episodes season and they choosed not to because they thought it wasn’t needed, and they were maybe right and still what they did was absolutely unsatisfying. Why? For me it’s pretty simple, they didn’t gave themselves enough time to build up things the right way. But the truth being said, even if they had 10 fucking episodes they would have messed up. The problem was not the amount of minutes this season but how they used it, at some point they missed the concept of the show they were running. GOT/ASOIAF can be setted in a medieval fantastic world, it can be an epic story, but what it has always been is a political thriller. Yet those dickheads choosed to spend 1/3 of the remaining onscreen time (and probably 2/3 of the budget they were trusted with) in fucking long battles (if KL destruction can even be called a battle). As far as I remember, the longest battle that have taken place in the books was when Stannis attacked KL, in the books I remember it took like 6 chapters (3 of them were Sansa’s who wasn’t even in the battle), readers felt disappointed about how shitty the battle of the blackwater was back in season 2, yet we understood the show’s timetable needed to be done with it quickly and the budget was the one of a TV show with a huge amount of characters so we wern’t very bothered by it. GOT/ASOIAF have never been about battles,  those are things that just happen and it’s awful yes, but have never been the main core of the story and yet they spent such a huge amount of time on them when the show had so little time to get a closure,I REPEAT MYSELF 1/3 of our time, I believe the most of the money for what? Two fucking long battles which were not amazing at all (Drogon blowing up KL was beautiful yes, but never worth 45 minutes of my time). SO NO, IT’S NOT THINGS WERE RUSHED BECAUSE OF THE TIME LEFT, THEY WERE RUSHED BECAUSE THEY BETRAYED THE ESSENCE OF THE SHOW THEY WERE RUNNING BY SPENDING TOO MANY TIME IN SOMETHING THAT DOESN’T MOVE THE STORY LINE FURTHER AND EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER ARC PAID FOR IT.

2- The broken trust. This 2 morrons were given the chance by the very GRRMartin to be the first to deliver the endgame of the most intriguing and complex story I’ve ever watched or read. They had a responsability toward him and again they failed. THE FUCKING FINALE WAS ACTUALLY LEAKED. I mean, this on itself is an insult to the kind of show they were supposed to do, a treason to all the time GRRMartin spent on writting his books. It’s not what the endgame was, to be frustrated about how life works it’s granted on GOT/ASOIAF. But letting it to be leaked, not just one episode, but all of them... Letting the more discussed, argued, especulated show in history end to be leaked is something I can’t forgive them for.

3- Setting things up that never paid off: I just felt that every single camera focus, political conflict... Was set for nothing... GOT has never been like that, the truth was hidden by the scrypt but told on how the show was actually plaid. Never got a Sansa/Cersei/Dany display and, no matter who of them you stand, just that was frustrating. Non epic dialogues, instead we got 10 minutes of council unimportant small talk (not even about politics) and brothel joking (THE FUCK???). Even if someone tries to say something of the like that it was all to subvert expectations all of that was ruined because they let the fucking endgame to be spoiled. It felt that it was all for nothing but fuck us, and if it was that way well, then it was all for fan disservice which is even wworse than fan service because no one gets satisfied about it. Tenth of minutes of threats, angsty looks, anticipation, political moves, drama, plot, build up made garbage which actually means that the most true moments to the show were battles which is just..................................................................................... ehem. This season battles became what were never meant to be and the rest of it was just nothing at all.

Now, enough with the D&D criticism, I don’t want to go any further and the cast was amazing: Emilia really got me this season, she is way better of what I ever thought her to be, magnificient work for you, Sophie as good as always, Kit you did all that could be done with just as little as they gave you (your BoW sequence while running in the courtyard was amazing and never expected less since the BoB), Lena my only complaint is that I missed you as much as Jaime missed Cersei (Cersei may be the one character that was better in the show than in the books; the scripts plaid their part but so you did)... And so on. You did amazingly all along and YOU can be proud; you all were the best part of it.

Let’s go to GRRMartin. As I said above I’m ok with the ending being such, not the one I would have picked but well, I dont get to chose, isn’t it? I’ve always been amazed by just how realistic the story was, how cynical you are yourself, how complex every character you designed has been and how you brought it together to make a story that made sense, a story that was always able to make you expect things that never happen and yet, with the given time, would reveal to go in a far more logical way making you understand, accept and keep going with it... Maybe I am wondering because I know I would never get a further explanation, clue or hope, but for someone who have always remained true to pracmatism, realism and individualism of his characters there are a few things I actually can’t understand, not as a reader/watcher, nor as a political scientist.

Things I can understand:

-Jon going to the wall: I guess Grey Worm demanding it was true to Grey Worm’s character, he did bullshit for 2 seasons, and actually doing the very same mistake as Robb or even worse (he fell in love with a dangerous and unstable mass murderer who was ready to burn his family alive, or at least, that is what the show told us). He deserves it for knowing nothing and yet managing to forget the half of it. Yet, if Grey WWorm leaves with the unsullied... Why would he carry on his sentence... This is GOT but well, as the show putted it, it makes some sense for him to carry his sentence to the end, but George, book Jon is not this kind of honorable man who goes for honor but a dutifull bastard able to betray every single oath he once took for the greater good. Good luck pulling that off.

- Dany dying: Again, Dany falling to her extremely dark side has been very foreshadowed in both the books and the show, she has done horrendous things, a lot of people has, my personal problem with her is that, half of the times, such cruelty was absolutely unnecessary. Yet Dany stans do have a point; Dany suddenly falling for that side of her coin just because a few persons that were close to her died and people not cheering for her was extremely poor. That woman who (unwillingly) killed her husband and unborn baby, led a bunch of ill, old people as well as children through a dessert while watching them die... Going nuts for such childish reasons is pittysome for her character. Most of your character have always been grey, even the ones we perceived as evil were given the chance to prove their humanity, even while doing terrible things, they had the chance to be sympathetic to us, and we were given the chance to know the most of them and agree even with some of their worst accomplishments. This season Daenerys (who I repeat I haven’t liked for 4 seasons already) was definitely going to go dark, but she was deshumanized while doing it, in a way that was impossible to understand and yet hard to call madness. I hope you do better about her because I want to think that it was all Ds’ fault (I’ve had a hard time deciding who to blame about this) giving her to much screen time and yet being unable to make us understand wtf was going on with her so suddenly (there is a huge difference between being sad or angry and burning small folks from a dragon for 45 minutes, maybe 5 mins of it until realizing what she is doing, 5 mins on a dragon back is more than enough time to burn a huge amount of people, and that is reason enough not to support her as a queen). The problem is not that build up, anticipation, foreshadowing, that was done, but just how much of a villain she became to just not give a frikking damn about all this innocents life, or not expressing a single regret (what she did in the books after randomly eviscerating and crucifying alive 163 defeated persons in the main square of Meereen in front of their families until the rot enough to fall apart, yes mates, it was just that cruel).

- Grey Worm: all in him made sense; leaving (why would he stay???) wanting  some punishment for his queen’s traitors... But the fact he was actually believing one of those traitors to actually carry out his sentence because said traitor promised? Because his family promised not to give him any shelter?

- Bran being king; well... I understand and I don’t. The truth being said he knows how to fucking play the game without getting his hands any dirty, when he told Tyrion that this was the main reason he went down south I just thought that he actually could do a nice job there, that is Bran for us all people.

- Democracy... bullshit: I didn’t like how it was pushed away as an option, it was almost like a joke which makes sense from a feudal lord perspective but the actual truth is quite different. Democracy never works in a non posmaterialist society; desinformation, lack of stability or knowledge, extreme supersticion... Who would believe the people from the bread riot were worthy of having a vote that would decide the future of the realm, such people are extremely manipulable as it happenned with the high sparrow, or how it is remembered Baelor the Saint, one of the worst kings the seven kingdoms ever had.

Things I can’t understand:

- BRONN AS MASTER OF COIN: Being true I don’t believe it to be your fault George, you were upset about his fate and it makes sense ( SO Ds THE FUCK WERE YOU THINKING BY GIVING THE MASTERSHIP OF COIN TO A MAN WHO LITERALLY SEEMS TO NEED ALL OF HIS FINGERS TO COUNT UP TO TEN, THE SEEMINGLY MORE COMPLEX AND TECHNICALLY DEMANDING MASTERSHIP OF A RAVAGED AND BANKRUPTED REALM, I DON’T KNOW WHAT STAR WARS BULLSHIT YOU ARE APPARENTLY RUNNING RIGHT NOW BUT IF I WAS THE PRODUCER YOU WOULD GET FIRED TODAY JUST BECAUSE OF SUCH BULLSHIT).

- Northern independence... and Bran as a King: Why would the north be independent? I come from the Jonsa fandom to all of you and they were a huge amount of people there wanting it but it made no sense. It has been the very first fucking time in seasons that I’ve felt like beating Sansa. One king is peace, and in future generations, moreso with the crown working as it does now, wars between the north and the suth will start again, leading to more disasters, come on George... Does the north really deserve independence? Have they suffered more than anyone else? Some people seem to believe so but it’s not true. During Aegon conquest the north was the part of the 7kingdoms which suffered the less because Torrhen Stark kneeled on time before any battle took place. There have been 2 cultural groups that have suffered Targaryens far more than northerners and just as culturally differentiated from the andals as northerners are. Those are Dornish (Rhoynars), who are famous for resisting Targaryen rule for centuries until Daeron the good succeeded in diplomacy by marrying a dornish princess and giving princess Daenerys in marriage to the prince of Dorne. They have their own succession system (far more advanced that the rest of Westeros). Have they recently suffered less George? Because, if you are going to go with some random prince of Dorne which was never introduced (I expect you not to) that would mean that all prince Doran, Arianne, Quentyn (already happenned), Trystan, Oberyn and Sandsnakes would all be dead by then. And finally the Ironborns: they are first men, they have their own religion and culture, they suffered the first attack from Aegon the conqueror (King Harren the Black was the king of the Iron Islands) remained independent even longer than Dorne (the hedge knight short stories and their mention to Dagon Greyjoy prove me right) and their family has recently fought 2 wars in order to get it back (Balon rebellion and the five kings war). In such wars both of Balon’s oldest son died and Theon was taken as a hostage for his whole life, and in the second, castrated and tortured because of it. So George... And Sansa, why should the north remain independent while the rest doesn’t? Sansa is Bran fucking sister, she is related to him in a closer way than any other fucking lord and yet she is the only one not to accept him as King? THE ACTUAL FUCK? I mean why would anyone else remain in the 7 Kingdoms if the north doesn’t? How can any lord accept such bullshit when they are not related to him and his bloody sister doesn’t? How can anyone defend Bran as a King when he accept such a thing and still say he is unbiased or fair? His actually best lordship support comes from the fucking north! How can Bran first act as a King be accepting his authority to be jeopardize in such a way? I need you to explain it way better on the books George, I really do, because right know it feels like an experiment that would last 2 days and end with Bran and his council heads on spikes.

PLEASE PEOPLE, I DON’T CARE WHO YOU ARE, WHO YOU STANNED, WHAT ENDGAME YOU WOULD PREFER, IF SOMEONE GETS ANY CLUE, PLEASE JUST ANSWER THIS CALL OF HELP BECAUSE... WELL ALL OF YOU KNOW ALREADY.

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SANSA’S POV

We were all disappointed for losing her POV last chapter. But the question we must ask ourselves is: why did we lose her POV for one chapter before the finale when her arc is not fulfilled, is our girl up to something?

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ABOUT THE LEAKS

Bran would be a magnificient lord of whispers but a King??????? Bran who told Sansa he can't be the lord of anything cause he is 3ER?????? I mean all the foreshadowing from the books got Jon for King that’s how people started to theorize about Rhaegar and Lyanna on the first place.

 GEORGE SAID SOME FANS HAD FOUND OUT THE ENDGAME please if someone out there had figured such an endgame out please tell me how... Or better don’t, I would just assume you are an angry delusional Jonerys.

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ABOUT TYRION FUCKING LANNISTER

Jonsa folk, I write this today in order to bring some insight about Tyrion’s recent actions.

First of all I want to clarify my opinion about this character. All along the books I’ve enjoid this character a lot (as everyone else) because he is a clever and cynical fellow. I always felt his dialogues as amazing and funny (his scenes with Tywin will always remain as ones of the most marvellous pieces of dialogue I’ve ever read). I’ve liked him for being one of those super grey characters Lannisters use to be and not the fucking moral cunt he has became in the last 3 seasons. Yet he hasn’t been one of my faves, I’ve always prefered Sansa over him because he has to much political awareness, while more naive characters allow you to think about the game happening around them by yourself, Tyrion always set to much guidance into the reader’s mind (and I’m planning on making a meta about how such characters allienate the readers of their own thinking leading them to trust the character perception and stopping them from thinking on their own).

BUT I WILL MAKE A STRONG POINT HERE AS A JONSA: TYRION LANNISTER IS NOT, AND HAS NEVER BEEN A TRAITOR. 

It is just as unfair to accuse him from betraying Sansa Stark as to accuse Sansa for betraying Daenerys Targaryen. TYRION NEVER SWEAR ANY ALLIGEANCE TO HOUSE STARK BUT TO DAENERYS TARGARYEN. Yes, he spoke to Daenerys about Varys betrayal, yes, that put Sansa on a tight spot and yes, I think Starks should not trust him. BUT YOU CAN’T FIND GUILTY OF TREASON A CHARACTER FOR BEING LOYAL TO THE PERSON THE SWORN THEIR SERVICES TO, that is just and plainly unfair.

ABOUT VARYS: Tyrion and Varys relationship have alays been amazing and one of my favourites ones as far as friendship goes. From episode 8x04 Tyrion knew of Varys’ intentions, he told Tyrion himself. From the very moment Daenerys threatenned Varys in season 7 I expected his morals standards to come into collision with Dany’s actions, and as Tyrion himself was found guilty of betraying Joffrey thanks to Varys’ accusations it just felt poetic to me that his death happenned the other way around. A full lot of people will come and say that Varys saved him, and my answer will be: read the books. Varys, in the books saved Tyrion because Jaime coerced him into doing so. There is as well a major difference here: TYRION DID NEVER ACTUALLY BETRAYED JOFFREY, WHILE WHAT VARYS WAS DOING WAS TREASON, yes he had goddamn good reasons to do so, but it doesn’t change the facts: CONSPIRING ON YOUR QUEENS BACK WHILE TRYING TO MURDER HER IS TREASON. Varys knew what he actually was doing, he knew the consequences of his actions if he failed. Varys’ death responsability is ultimately HIS OWN.

ABOUT SANSA: As I said above i don’t know what kind of loyalty did you expected from Tyrion towards Sansa but the truth being said TRYING TO TAKE A PICTURE WHERE TYRION OWNED SOMETHING TO HER IS DELUSIONAL. She is not his wife anymore, he is not his lady and he is not his Queen (even if she would be a far better one that the one he actually has) AND WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT: SANSA KNEW WHERE HIS LOYALTY LIES (she confirmed in ep 8x03, do you remember the crypts scene folk?). I believe Sansa knew perfectly what he was doing by telling him but, IF NOT, THAT IS SANSA’S FAULT NOT HIS.

CONCLUSION: AS I SAID BEFORE, IF ANY OF YOU ARE WILLING TO ACCEPT TYRION BETRAYED A WOMAN HE NEVER SWORNED A THING AND THAT IS NOTHING TO HIM ANYMORE (if she actually was at some point) THEN YOU SHOULD BE WILLING TO ACCEPT THAT SANSA IS A TRAITOR TO DAENERYS TARGERYEN, A WOMAN SHE NEVER SORNED A THING.

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Vox Unpopuli

I’m writing this because of the negative posting I have been seeing around Jon Snow from my own Jonsa people. It has been going on and on for several weeks and I reached my limit this one. 

Speaking truly I’m a super-convinced Jonsa shipper and still am. Jonsa didn’t came to me from season 6 (I admit it took me to rewatch to get it, never loved Dany though) it came for pure contemplation of what and end would make the more sense. I wasn’t a Sansa stan until season 6, yet never been an anti, in the books her and Jaime are my faves. Why? Well, because Sansa is in the middle of evrything from the very start without being aware of anything at the beginning (she is just now learning in the books) so she has a naive look into things allowing you to be the one to understand the political implications of something without George explaining it to you throught the character POV like it happen with other characters such as Tyrion, and yet shit is happenning.

To explain what this post is all about I will make reference to a book argument between Tywin and Tyrion. Making it short for you Tyrion is all ‘’but dad I’m fucking, amzingly smart’’, and Tywin answer is ‘’yep son you are, but you like to much for it to show off’’. For me this was Sansa this season. If I made a recap of everything Sansa said she was right; Dany should not be trusted, soldiers should rest, Jaime should stay, Dany shouldn’t have trusted Cersei, what are we going to eat... Ad so on. We all agree so far, BUT Daenerys stans do have a point on saying Sansa has been BITCHY to her from the very beginning, because she has (we Jonsa have a pretty clear idea of the reason why she has). But the truth being said from the very moment Daenerys crossed Winterfell’s door Sansa has done as much as possible, and taken every single chance she got to fuck up Dany as much as possible with the bloody damn enthusiasm of a 5 years old crushing a bug. 

Does that mean she was wrong on what she said? No, but it wasn’t smart, if you truly believe that E-lizardless kween is an entitled paranoid shouldn’t you try to avoid her if you can’t stand her instead of pissing her off? More so if she has 2 Dragons near your home? What I mean is that, if Littlefinger could see her right then, he would be terribly disappointed. The very same person who went all ‘’Joffrey is my true king and love’’ for mere survival is explicitly and intentionnally trying to piss the dragon. And what really pisses myself off is that a lot of Jonsas whom I consider my fellows are unwilling to recognize that, after every further step she took in said way it was up to Jon to pay the bill. The boy has literally tried everything, he tried to say nothing (’’but, to convince Dany she was right (Jaime’s trial) to shut her down (ar council of 8x04), because every step she took Dany went to Jon saying stuff that sounded like: ‘’is your sister actively trying to wake up the Dragon?????????????????????????’’. For me Sansa has done about Dany the very same miscalculation Littlefinger could have done about Ramsey, being Dany far more dangerous (as KL folk just found out). That’s why everyone was looking at her that way when she started protesting during the war council and Jon went all ‘’shut the fuck up already I need her to be far from you as fast as possible’’. And people are expecting him to apolgize? IF he isn’t playing the game ok but if he is... THE FUCK??? This season Sansa has shined as a ruler but sucked at playing the game until she FINALLY realized what the actual problem with Dany is: she is fucking dangerous. So sorry for all of the mega-sansa stans who are maybe gonna hate me for this but my boy was to busy trying to keep them all safe to get Winterfell blowned up so Sansa can get the love she deserves (even if/when she deserves it, and she absolutely does). He could have some faith in her? Has she really deserved it though, because he got to save the north despite of her actively pushing Dany to the edge (I get she being so close to it was appealing), and he has done great. 

Now Dany slaughtering KL. I believe that it could have happenned before (in season 7) if it wasn’t for him but at least he tried. I think he never believed it would actually happen, but once there he couldn’t prevent it AND EVEN IF IT WAS A TRAGEDY IN THAT FICTIONAL WORLD, FOR POL!JON TO PAY OFF, HIM EVENTUALLY FAILING TO CONTROL DRACARYS AT SOME POINT WAS SOMETHING NECESSARY. Just be happy that the last chapter has been set for a Sansa vs Dany display (or at least it seems so) because our ship is one of the few which hasn’t sunk by the last episode of the show and we still can have faith, not bad for delulus eh???

FINALLY FOLKS, THANK YOU FOR READING THIS POST, THANK YOU A LOT TO PUT UP WITH MY ENGLISH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SAILING THIS SHIP BY MY SIDE AND KEEP FIGHTING AS ALWAYS BECAUSE THE DAWN IS CLOSE AND OUR WATCH IS ALMOST OVER.

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Inner thoughts

You know what? If Jonsa does happen I’m gonna become the most hated person in Tumblr after going on the Jonerys Tag all about: you know what jonerys folk: BEND THE KNEE

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Reconciliating Westerosi fandom

Alright folk, first of all I am writing this post for 2 reasons: first of all because I’ve come to like this kind of shit (I thought it to be a nuisance 1 year ago), secondly because I’ve had enough of Reading 3 kind of posts this week; post saying the episode was shitty, posts saying Daenerys is a bitch, posts saying Sansa is a slut. I’ve had enough of people being biased or judging the episode from a ship perspective. Dame of Thrones and D&D don’t give a fucking damn about wich ship we stand or our expectations, we are going to watch the whole season anyway. And them giving us the chance to come here every day every week since the beginnig of the season, being unsure about the outcome, speaking to each other, arguing with each other because we expect different things how everything should end is amazing enough. And being wrong about where the story is leading doesn’t make the deliverance any less majestic.

 Episode 4 was amazing, shit is hitting the fan and the fans and we are back to what game of thrones should be: ‘bout the game of thrones. This season is being far superior to season 7, which in comparison felt plain and predictable (even Starkbowl being a fake was predictable). I have previously wrote a post about this episode in particular and I am going to take my time explaining why both Sansa and Daenerys were awsome this episode. Maybe I’ll repeat myself at some points, but I want the people to stop shitting about what other people believe to be right and take some serious insight on what those characters are doing.

 The last thing I want you to keep in mind before I get started is that I’m pretty aware that I am not a native speaker, and my english can be messy. So if anyone feels like wanting some kind of deeper explanation about what I mean at some point, I invite them to talk with me whenever they want, no matter the ship they stand or whatever; this is not about ships this is about characters understanding so we can enjoy the show without biased or shitty mindsets. I am also aware that I am not a great writter and I believe there is people around far better at exposing themselves.

 -        Daenerys: Amazing episode, the Dragon Queen is finally playing the game herself. Personally I reconciled with her this very episode. I doubted she was able to play the game, this very episode prove me wrong. First we got the Gendry legitimation; clever, as Tyrion pointed out it provided her a loyal (at least theorically) lord of Storm’s End, but it also allowed her to send a message to Sansa Stark about her claim to Winterfell which she could at least jeopardize just by doing something as simple as that. The chamber’s stuff was another amazing display. It allows us to see her concern about Jon’s claim to the Iron Throne. Being fair to her she was right about almost everything. Jon not wanting the throne doesn’t matter at all; even if he never pushed his claim, it will always be an excuse for every single lord around to contest her right to rule over them forcing her to take action making her a tyrant. She was right on the crypts as well (ep2); Jon’s right to the IT will always be shitty, his only prooves are his brother visions and a book anyone could have written, but it doesn’t even matter if it is true. Remember Stannis people, he was right all along about being Robert’s heir, and yet no one gave a damn just because they never wanted him as King. Now we got to the controversial part, her badmouthing Sansa. Yes It is true, but well, there is a throne at stake. For me at this point Daenerys has been thinking about the parentage reveal consequences and being true, the only way to prevent all the shit to come through is having Jon murdered, because even as looking for a way out, once she doesn’t need him anymore and Cersei is done for, she would have to spend all her life out of fear that someone learned the truth. I really believe she loves Jon. During the war council she was in a rush to leave, and I believe that she is actually trying to prevent Jon to tell his family and not because she gives a fuck about her people, after all, she is the very same person that in the books had a huge amount of ill people under her protection in Meereen just because they needed it. In all she is trying to manipulate him while lying herself. Before people start splitting on her (or me)   because of it, if at some point you have been invested in Pol!Jon  theory it seems unfair towards Daenerys to blame her to do exactly the same thing to him. Because what she is really trying here is to keep him safe. As I said before, at this point she should have already contemplated the possibility of murdering him, but she doesn’t want this to happen. Yet, we have to admit that she has already invested to much in Westeros, she has already sacrified to many things and people in her quest, to just back off. She has a responsability to all that people who have died in order for her to get there, and if she risked just because of a hot guy, it would feel to me as a betrayal to all those people, Friends and lovers she has sacrified, she wouldn’t deserve to be a queen while killing Jon would turn her into an usurper. Maybe I don’t like her as a Queen, yet I admire the character, it would be shitty for her to turn mad just because she wants power. If I should describe Daenerys in just one Word it would be passionate; in her way to fight, to rule, to believe on herself and, finally, to love. I don’t know how it is all gonna end, but, if she had to turn Mad, I would feel very displeased if she turns so just because she is ‘’POWER HUNGRY’’, it should be because of love. At some point Daenerys has to stop lying to herself and accept she can’t protect Jon, each death she suffers should push her to the edge, not because she is too sensitive, that woman has crossed the world fighting her way out doing great and terrible things, she isn’t weak, but because she has a duty to all those who believed in her, and for a queen, let a man just take it all away, even the very risk of it happening, should be out of question. And the more she lose, the more she feels endebted to her people and the more she understands, that at the end, she will be forced to kill the man she loves, admires, trusts and considers worthy of being a King. It should be heartbreaking, unfair, saddening and Shakespearian.

 -        Sansa: As always since the sixth season, her character was brilliant this episode. It is true that this episode was far more focused on Daenerys and yet Sansa always get the chance to be outstanding. I loved the political dance between her and Dany this episode. I will go straight to the point; the battlement scene with Tyrion. Sansa isn’t happy there, so much is evident. For some episode now she had been shown around people that were essential in her past (Theon, Tyrion, Sandor). All of them are people that tried to protect her one way or another, the problema is that all of them are related to some piece of her past she doesn’t want to remember. The only reason why Dany made reference to her in her convo with Jon is because she has realised how important he is for her. Everyone can believe if there is any romantic feeling or not, I’m not here to talk about what you all should believe, bute ven if it is just platonical sibling love, Jon is the only male character related to all of her good memories; from her childhood in Winterfell to the present, while being innocent or unrelated  about all the bad ones. This means he is very important to her, important in an extent that is even hard to understand. It is true that he asked something from her and she betrayed such trust; and so? You all antis go around speaking about how she betrayed him without giving a thought about why she did so. Right now, denying Sansa being one of the smartest characters around is just plain and simple denial and her scene with Tyrion was key this episode. There are two emotions in her in such scene: anger (for Jon to leave south) and fear. Anger was pretty easy to get, Tyrion realised, she was unhappy, now, fear shows u when Tyrion ponted out Jon not being a Stark, because this is the very reason that makes him going south dangerous. Sansa is brilliant and she has been thinking ‘bout the parentage reveal as well. And her conclusion is just the same as Daenerys: Jon is going to die because Dany needs him to die. Why she broke the promess: as I see it she has gotten the picture, Dany can’t kill Jon yet, as long as Cersei remains in the throne she needs him to keep the North and the Vale, so if she is going to do something about it, it needs to be now, so she plaid her move, not because she is power hungry, but because she wants to protect him just as much as Daenerys.

 It would be nice for us to be able to stan a character without disrespecting others, or at leasst other fans. The last thing that I want to tell all of you is that I had enough of people throwing the mysoginist bullshit over other people. I really believe GOT is full  of amazing females characters to putt he blame on that. Sure, the world of ASOIAF is unfair with women, welcome to middle age fuckers. If it wasn’t like this we couldn’t relate to such a period. Yet a pretty lot of people needs to defend their faves by pushing the mysoginist bullshit over others, it is pittysome and annowing, the very fact that such a large extent of our faves are females you speak against D&D being such a thing; females characters are amazingly complex here. The very same persons needing to pull such a vague and wrong reasoning over others are the very same people that go saying this or another female character is ‘’POWER HUNGRY’’. I will tell you a secret both Daenerys and Sansa are ambitious (fuck what a revelation) and I find it disgusting that is have to be a guy like me who has to tell you that women being ambitious (doesn’t matter it being Sansa or Dany) is perfectly right thing and they don’t have to love each other just for both of them being women.

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A Keen sense of Poetic Justice

Eddard Stark betrayed his king by keeping Jon’s parentage a secret in order to protect him.

Sansa Stark betrayed her king by revealing  that very secret in order to protect that very person.

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A MADMAN OR A KING

Curious thing to see. Did anyone realize that during the 8x04 feast, just when Tormund is speaking about Jon riding a Dragon, he sais the lines: 

-’’ What kind of person climbs in a fucking Dragon; A madman (camera focus is on Dany) or a King (switches to Jon)’’ 

Music goes dark, and Daenerys goes psycho?

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8X04

People I am about to confess you a secret; I LOVED THE EPISODE. And speaking the truth I’ve had enough on people posting bullshit, no one felt good about the Red Wedding, and yet it was amazing, one of the best plot twist I’d ever watched. If you just want everything to be perfect and epic go rewatch the lord of the rings; this show isn’t for you. 

-never knowing how it’s gonna end

-suffering along your faves

-spending hundreds of hours thinking ‘bout the outcome

-then trying again

This is GOT. You thought you were going to be gifted with... That’s bullshit, you will suffer and struggle to the very end. You will be surprised (mostly in terrible ways), you will doubt, you will feel like nothing makes sense... The Night King is dead and what does that mean? We are back to good old shitty life, we are back home. I’m tagging this post as Jonsa because it’s my north, the corner of the fandom I belong to, and I am not breaking faith today, I am telling you, I don’t know how long will this post will be, but I am doing it even if I consider it to be a pain in the ass, and if anyone feels like having a deeper conversation, or need reassurance or anything, well, I’m her for them, and I will continue to do so as well as I can.

Personally I consider this episode to be everything Kit promised: a huge bunch of questions, the wheel is moving again and we are clueless. But I don’t get what people is crying all over, yes, the long night is over and yet everyone in the fandom found themselves in their darkest hour, it was tragic, it was full of angst, fuck, it was sad and yet nothing is over.

- Sansa (of course): well today (I live in Europe and I don’t wait ‘till 4AM to watch episodes) I got more confirmation (after 2 almost empty episodes) of Sansa being in love with Jon. She finally got to know who he really is. It sure was disappointing not to see Sansa’s reaction on screen (I yelled at my computer like for half an hour, but it’s not as if it wasn’t important for her, it was just hidden from us) yet we got to see her concern for Jon and even him being a Targ she still wants him to stay by her side. She couldn’t stand to watch him and Dany look happy (for the 10 seconds it lasted) And Tyrion felt something was wrong with her. I believe her telling Tyrion was the beginning of what Sophie said about turning on her family, and she was clearly pissed ‘bout the idea of Jon not coming back North. And yet she did amazing by telling Tyrion, just by that she is jeopardizing Danie’s court: that’s my girl.

- Daenerys Targaryen, the breaker of chains, khaleesi of... And all her shit: Amazing episode. She was smart (not just for the Gendry stuff) and completely right in her convo with Jon; as long as westeros recognize him as the true born son of Rhaegar her claim doesn’t exist. And don’t get it wrong it’s not like he has a super strong claim (she was right about Jon’s only witness to be Sam and Bran, your little brother and best friend saying you are the true heir sounds fishy), just look at Stannis, he was right all along as he claimed to be Robert’s heir and no one gave a shit because they never wanted HIM as a king. As Dany is not the stupid brat a lot of Jonsas seem to believe she knows that every single time westerosi lords want to disobbey they’ll have an excuse by accepting Jon’s claim as true, his identity will constantly jeopardize her authority just because he exist, it doesn’t matter what he wants ( Dany and Varys are right here) Just as Dany, Varys and Tyrion know it will happen with Sansa (something Daenerys was right as well). DARK!DANY is on the motion already. Varys knows it, Sansa knows it, Bran knows it, Arya knows it and both Jon and Tyrion were realizing it this episode ( I will come to that later). It was even fun to watch her say to Jon how she his subjects will force him to use his claim to take what is hers (if he has the claim, doesn’t it mean it was never hers to begin with?). It’s the first time that she feels all; powerfull, angry and scared at the same time. Emilia deliverance all the episode felt amazing.

-Varys and Tyrion: we still have to see Varys die... but mates i felt heartbroken for him today. I’ve loved him since season one (something that didn’t happen with Sansa for example) he is a schemer and yet he is so moral. He has been making the right points all over the show and has been our warning about Dany for 2 seasons already. Yet this is the first time I’ve seen him emotional. I am of the opinion that Tyrion is in love with Dany, he is smarter than Jorah and he knows he doesn’t have a chance and doesn’t even pretend but he is loyal to her, truly loyal, this kind of loyalty that is born on someone who feels fully validated and trusted by someone when no one else would... Except for Varys. The Eunuch has been his truest friend, the one who was willing to see him for what he was despite of everything apart of Dany, but he loves her and we all know the crazy shits Lannisters do for love. By the end of the episode Varys implied she has to die. I loved it because it teared this weird and constant duo apart, and Varys went emotional for that. I strongly believe he will sell him to Dany (who, by the way, had Varys warned already) and if this happen fellows shit is going to hit the fan: first of all their conversation paralleled the conversation Tyrion had wwith Bronn about murdering Joffrey (at least in the books, I don’t remember the show properly) the sentence we are speaking treason sticked to me while watching. The poetic part of it is that, at least in the book, such conversation was brought by Varys during Tyrion trials to proove him guilty, Him playing the same move on Varys seems so good to just let it through (maybe he won’t expect him to be executed or it won’t happen at all). In any case, if it happens, Dany will  learn why he was plotting (that is Jon), and them both knowing the truth would confirm Dany’s fear about his claim.

-And finally Jon: Plenty of people have been posting complaints about Jon’s behaviour, pol!jon being debunked because of his behaviour... I laugh at it. First of all, those who believe that Jon would just use Dany and just tell her fuck off are as delusional as Jonerize shitters said. Pol!jon was not about betraying Dany but about taking her north, and he did. It’s not on Jon’s nature to betray people. He is meant to do such a thing because of circumstances not because he wants to turn on people (he is not a Frey for god’s sake), the treason for love was never intended, events would put him in such spot. I still believe he is not in love with Dany yet he was trying his best; he ows her a great deal, she loves him a lot and she is pretty (may not be much of a reason yet is far from bad), he may think he could build his love stone by stone. And still he had to close his eyes to kiss her and stopped as soon as he looked at her (rewatch folk, rewatch)... While speaking with his family he made them swear not to tell the secret to anybody, and you know what, for me he looked scared as hell. Why? Because he was telling them something that would put them in danger (’’we can all live together’’, ‘’we can... I just told you how’’ now this was a fucking threat, and Emilia’s voice just let through it was not a fuckingocasional statement this time). Now about political Jon in particular yesterday’s episode has the boldest move he has ever plaid on her, I will give you a clue; it was during the war council when they were speaking about how they would go south, it was subtle, without a single word (we were distracted by Dany and Sansa being at each other throat), and yet he failed to get his way, Grey Worm corrected him... Now can someone who is not to focus on how much Sansa and Dany hate each other tell me what move he was trying to pull on Dany? (Rewatch folks, just rewatch) 

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The distance between them.

Ok people, I’m here to make you all a question that has been bothering me since the first episode this season. The reason I’ve waited so much was because I thought someone was going to make a point about it, and as far as I have not read anything about it, I’m going to ask directly.

First of all I am going to make a statement, I completely suck at making posts. There is amazing people arount who know how to insert videos in theirs, I don’t so you will need to look for the scene yourselves, it’s Jon and Sansa convo.

The thing that stunt me during the scene was the difference on Jon and Sansa dynamic from season 7 arguments. Ever since 6x10 forehead kiss (and what I believe actually fueled Jonsa ship) Jon was very conscious of the physical distance around Sansa. Since they met Sansa has not only given Jon reasoning but has supported them with her body language in order to get him focused on whatever she was saying at the time. And after 6x10 Jon got conscious on the effect that was having on him. This presumption (because I alays try to be objective in my reasoning and as there is not an actual confirmation it remains just a presumption) is at the very origin of pol!jon theory and his behaviour around Dany as a tool to get do what he wanted her to do. Such knowledge is what kept him running away (he was actually doing so) during the ‘’undermining’’ bullshit. She was composed when he was not, she was trying to speak sense to him, and he was all about excuses just to look cool while running.

Yet, during this season scene, shit happened differently. Jon got to the room and Sansa started the argument (I wonder if Jon’s timing with the raven was real, or if Sansa was waiting for him). So long they are speaking about the North crown and everything seemed balanced at this point, but Jon had a confidence about doing the right thing he hadn’t last season, he wasn’t backing nor running away, but standing his ground (well feeted, serious and straight, but not angry) while Sansa was defensive from the very start (rigid, and giving him her shoulder, actually hurted). Soon enough the subject changed from armies, crowns  and dragons to, exclusively the Targaryen Queen. That as boiling in Sansa’s mind, that’s why she couldn’t look away anymore, yet Jon gave her the actual truth: THEY NEEDED HER, and Sansa  couldn’t argue that much, he was right. Speaking about the Starks doing all the job during the BoW is nonsensical, there was a huge amount of people doing their best, a lot of them, part of Dany’s army. Now Sansa has been wary of Dany all season, and people keeps talking about the power hungry queen, I believe she was right and not at the same time. I believe Dany to be a terrible queen but that’s not something Sansa could know then, she didn’t knew her, she was wary about her but the queen being your brother’s girlfriend should not be a bad thing and it actually could bring peace for the north; yes there is Sansa’s trauma to take into account but it never sound to me as she was wary about her power or influence during this conversation, the actual problem seemed more to be just her, And Sansa had no actual reason (as we have) to distrust her. That’s wwhy saying the  ‘’ and a Targaaryen Queen’’ she couldn’t add more into it, Jon was winning the argument because he had an actual reasoning to support him while Sansa didn’t and so we get a quite long silence from her.

I know it has been long people but now it’s when the point I’m trying to make took place. Now the heat goes down and Jon takes a deep breath and calms down. He takes his time to think and goes with his question: Do you have any faith in me at all? And it fucks Sansa up. It’s an unfair question (we all know that) and it’s hurtful for her, for me it is the first time wwe see her going full emotional. Most people have been speaking about her giving him reassurance again, but I never saw him as needing it to begin with, he is composed, while she is not, for me it was more like him trying to reassure her (such as saying I know what I’m doing but I’m tired of people coming at me for the fucking whole day already). So he never tried to give her an actual reason, instead he make a move and close the distance between them taking a step forward. And she is already broken.

For me it was Jon making Sansa’s move on Sansa. Now I would like to know how do you feel or understand the scene because for me,this was the very example of pol!jon just in Sansa’s mouth.

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The Queens Justice/ The Queen’s authority

First of all I’m pretty aware that I am not a native speaker. This post can get messy so, if anyone has any doubts about what I am meaning please ask me, I will be glad to answer and it will be a perfect chance for me to improve my english.

This post is meant to analyze Jon’s behaviour this season and how it is influencing the motion of Sansa’s relationship with Daenerys from a political point of view.

From the very first episode in season 8 we’ve been presented with a clear competition between Sansa and Dany for influence or authority (the only way they can openly compete with each other) and, so far, it has become evident that Sansa is winning by a huge difference, but, did it had to be this way?

The point is in Jon’s behaviour. Jon could have stepped forward the moment he came back to Winterfell in order to get back his authority. Let’s be clear, yes, he lost a huge amount of it for abandoning his crown (northern lords don’t see this in good eyes) but the point is he hasn’t even tried. We can get the situation is confusing right now in the North (we were presented such confusion by Ned Umber in the first episode) and Jon’s status is shaddy (Lyanna Mormont pointed it out),he refused the crown and was named ‘’Warden of the North’’ by Dany but he holds not men nor lands. Whoever who have read the books can think Dany is a terrible Queen (I do) but no one can say she is stupid. It took her just 1 episode to realize who was in charge of winterfell.

We are all Sansa stans (our little dove has really grow up well) but it will be delusional to think it has always been this way. You just have to rewatch the Season’s 7 first 2 episodes. Sansa had a great position and could convince Jon to listen to her, but he was the King in the North and he was doing the decision making (I will come back to this 2 episodes later). What I am trying to show off is that Jon may have given up his crown to Dany, but he is actively giving up his authority over Sansa and letting her get in charge even when he is there. It is her who is making the decision making (how long should the doors be open...). The decision making in the North is hers even though he is Dany’s Warden of the North, just because he is not acting like one. When Dany’s realized Sansa’s influence, and that for the northerners their supposed queen wasn’t even worth any single comparison, she tried to set Jon back at his original position and she did during Jaime’s trial. It was Sansa who passed the sentence not her, and she even didn’t tried to antagonise her (she could not) so she turned to Jon and made clear the answer to Lyanna’s Mormont statement back in episode one; ‘’What does the warden of the North have to say about it?’’ and we all know what Jon did.

Maybe it is true that Jon was lost all over the trial (he reacted pretty fast when Bran decided to speak though) and that he was processing the huge amount of shit from las night (Sansa’s conversation shattered him and then the parentage reveal) but Jon is not oblivious about how leadership works. The very same Jon who accused Sansa for undermining his position as a King back in season 7 just for not backing his decision did just that to Dany, undermined her and favoured Sansa, the woman who has taken over his position... And after that he left the room when his queen was expecting some kind of explanation just not giving a fuck in front of anyone (something that Tyrion and Varys inmediately realized, even Jorah who tried to calm things up in team Daenerys and recommended her to be in good terms with Sansa). 

Now I don’t believe Jon feels any concern about this, he never wanted the crown, and in fact, I think he believes he never deserved it. He trust Sansa, they’ve been each other home since season 6, and he knows she is worthy of ruling, he hasn’t just give up on his crown, but Dany is concerned; because all her authority over the North depends entirely on his, and he is not stepping into the position she expected him to hold as a leader. He also knows how little Sansa can make you feel (in a metaforical and literal way) when she question your decisions because seeing her ruling push you to question yourself as a ruler, and he is letting her go full out in front of Dany. 

So do you think his behaviour was just a coincidence or is he doing it on purpose? 

Thank you very much for reading my messy english writting all oveer the post.

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JONSA; the instrumentality of R+L=J

I must admit, as a jonsa shipper that I really like most of your metas on the subject. First of all, I would like to apologize for my use of english; I am not a native speaker and I know my use of such language to be far from perfect so please, if you finally take the time to read the post I am about to write and the reasons to write it, feel free to make any reference to any mistake you can find, it will be in my personal interest.

As I implied before, this is a jonsa post, but i believe it to be kinda different from the rest because I won’t be using foreshadowing from the books ( I don’t even know how to do it properly) nor the show. Anyone can find that on other amazing posts there are around which were made by people able to do them far better than myself. What is really important here is the structure of the story and how I’ve come to understand ASOIAF (books and show). The second reason why I will do it this way is because I agree with a full lot of people out there that at the end, every ship, from Jonsa to Jonerys it is nothing else than a whish, and when we hope something strongly enough we begin to project it under every light, for any excuses, seeing any quote or any passage as foreshadowing something. Please don’t get me wrong, I’ve learn from a full lot of metas; some of them are amazing and have brought light to some events. But the point for me is that no one at this point (except the obvious ones) know how this amazing story will end, that doesn’t mean that they’re not right: I’ve found around there people posting about R+L=J in the books for years, and then asking jonsa meta creators to find a quote that proves their theory to be true. My answer for such arguments is that nowadays, as long as the books go, there is not a single solid proof that R+L=J, just foreshadowing, and as the TV show confirmed, that never meant they were wrong.

At the end of season 6 I was quite hyped about Jonerys options. Dany was finally moving to westeros with her army, dragons, Dorne and High Garden at her back and Jon had just be named King in the North with the Vale bonded to him to some extent. Dany had left Naharis behind in order to be able to forge an alliance through marriage, but there were just 3 bachelors politically worthy of her hand: Euron, Sweet Robin and Jon Snow. Euron was out of question since she choosed to support Asha’s claim, and Sweet Robin... Well... Jon Snow was the remaining and perfect match allowing her to become Queen in the North by marriage, and tie The Vale to her claim along Dorne and The Reach; leaving Cersei with the ravaged Riverlands which are not really loyal to her nor the Freys, Casterly Rock and its bannermen who had fought several battles and lost a huge amount of men since the war begun, the Iron Islands (which are poor and divided) and some support from the Stormlands. It seemed good, yet Dany suddenly forgot why she let her lover behind and started to make demands as a stupid and spoiled teenager. I never got to understand why the idea never came to her or Tyrion’s  (who should be smart enough and keen to Jon Snow) minds, it was stupid at best.

When season seven came to an end I was extremely dissapointed with the season and needing more I started to read the books, and I’ve come to read them all 4 times since then. Then I started to wonder about the endgame, coming to a vague yet huge realasation: it’s all about R+L=J. Some would say it is obvious yet most of  people don’t come to fully understand such a statement. It is not about Jon becoming King because he is the true heir of Aerys Targaryen, ASOIAF is not this kind of story (Stannis was right about his claim from the beginning yet no one gave a shit) in fact your best buddy and your crippled ‘’prophet’’ brother saying you are and then your father’s best friend (Howland Reed) confirming it doesn’t make it a claim, but a rumour: it is people accepting it which makes it a claim (like Renlie’s, who never really had one). The point of George foreshadowing R+L=J it’s not just poetical, it must be instrumental for his story; useful for the endgame, and what makes me feel that way is the fact that GRR Martin has been spending time on this plot from the very Ned’s first chapter (I mean Robert’s quote about kings hiding under the snow  in the crypts of winterfell). We all know how long George takes to write a book and it would be useless to develop such a plot for no reason and spending years trying to show and hide the truth at the same time, chosing the right words, where to put them... R+L=J is essential to his story and that feeling is what made us aware that Jon would come back from death.

If Dany and Jon were about to rule together it wouldn’t matter whose claim is better; she holds the true power and not even the claim would matter if it isn’t his it whould be hers, so, if this was the outcome of all, why has GRRMartin spent his time in R+L=J’s plot; just to add drama to this couple? Just to add a little problem that they will eventually solve and live happily ever after? Sounds shitty and a waste to make it just a detail because if with this outcome you took R+L=J out of ASOIAF, there would be almost no difference but preventing an incestous romance.  

After realising this I started wondering how would it play out with Jon’s claim  being accepted. There are two possibilities: everyone respect him enough after the long night not to give a shit, or people would prefer him rather than the alternative. Right now, in the show Jon Snow is King in the North, but he is weak, He does not hold men of his own, nor a castle (Sansa is lady of Winterfell not him) he is king by deference, not by power but the wildlings and they were few enough before the battle of the bastards, he is a weak king and a king under the pretension that he is Ned’s Stark son, who he is not. R+L=J can do nothing but jeopardize his authority and once this happens he will be useless to Daenerys (even if she loves him). Then we have the southern lords, whose rights will be at stake if a military strong ruler would end at the Iron Throne (after all feudalism meant the power struggle of the local noblemen against the crown for their own rights and privileges). For them, someone like Dany is not a dream but a threat (she even admitted she wants to break the wheel). R+L=J gives them the chance to deny her claim in exchange for a king who holds nothing but respect instead of a foreigner who doesn’t respect anything but her own power and entitlement. You may think what you want but for me R+L=J being actually important makes Jonerys impossible, or better, making Jonerys the endgame makes R+L=J nothing but such a pairing creepy as hell.

In the other hand; King Jon could marry a lot of women (at least in the books); Margeary, Val, Cersei (I know it’s almost impossible but I am just listing), Myranda Royce, Arianne Martell... But King Jon being a weak king will need a strong political engagement in order to get support and strength, and those kind of fiances are not  common: Myranda Royce is from a minor branch of Royce family and doesn’t exist in the show, Val is not even a princess just a free woman who doesn’t exist in the show, Margeary Tyrell would make a great option as long as she lives and is unmarried (not in the show anymore) as Arianne (a crybaby more concerned for her own rights than for Dorne itself who doesn’t exist in the show). As far as the show goes there are just 2 women that are not Daenerys that fit the role: Cersei and Sansa (Lyanna Mormont is not a valid option since her house is to little and unimportant and she is a child).  Just those 2... 

Lot of people would say Sansa is his sister (to some extent), but the truth being said she is not, they’re cousins: why? Because R+L=J. If Jonsa would be endgame, a possibility no one can confirm nor deny, R+L=J would have a double instrumentality and this is why Jonsa is my ship instead of Jonerys, because it makes the most important hide plot of ASOIAF essential for 2 reasons instead of completely useless. Some can say that it is unlikely GRRMartin to write such a farytailed story, but from my perspective, no matter how cruel, cynical and unfair the world of ice and fire is, his story is still a song.