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“i love how we as a fandom have just agreed that–” don’t include me in this. do NOT lump me in with that.
So … I saw Rachel Reid’s Discord screenshots, and later that very disappointing response video (and since then the IG story, which did not address the problems).
Wasn’t feeling up to posting myself at first, but I did see the reactions to the screenshots, especially so many upsetting posts from people who see themselves in Shane Hollander for so many different reasons, and were hurt by the attitudes shown towards neurodivergence, EDs, the very real fears around coming out, the consistent lack of awareness about what being POC means through all of this. I’m one of those people, too, because her comments hit me a little too hard as a neurodivergent person.
And then the jokey dismissal of that was … yeah. So here’s another overly long deep dive I’ve spent too long overthinking.
I began my S2 hopes and fears post the other day by saying I go back and forth on the intentionality in the GCU books, especially on Shane’s TLG characterisation. Well, I’m a little clearer on that specific issue now, given that the author seems to have explicitly spelled out her intentions, and unfortunately has justified some less charitable interpretations of her writing decisions.
hi Jes, really love all you HR meta (esp your post about shame, thank you for that, truly), but can we get your thoughts on why Shane initiates sex in the couch scene? I got the impression that Ilya just wanted to cuddle, he obviously went along with it (why wouldn't he), but where's Shane mind at that moment? Is it bc he thought that it was expected of him? Did he try to put some distance (consiously or not) and failed (and freaked out)?
this is a good question! i don't know if i have a confident read on this but i can give it a shot. let's reconstruct what's happened right before that moment:
ilya gives his disastrous monologue about sleeping with women, which shane clearly interprets as ilya putting him in his place (your'e not that high on my priority list)
they eat together and ilya starts needling shane about his sexuality trying to figure out if he's gay, which shane is still interpreting as like, maybe not quite "he's trying to get rid of me" but probably something like "he's trying to remind me that this doesn't have a future because we'll both presumably end up with women" slash "you should get a girlfriend" (which shane has been hearing from literally everyone in his life)
then ilya drops the "i like women.... but i also like you. not as a person, obviously. but you have a good mouth" which sort of half lifts them back up into their usual teasing banter, but you can tell shane's struggling to get back up there with ilya because, again, in his mind this whole conversation is ilya reminding him that this isn't important to him and it shouldn't be that important to shane (shane should probably be looking for a girlfriend)
then ilya's dad calls, he deals with that, he tries to shake it off and come back, shane asks if things are okay, ilya has his little freakout moment where he's like you speak russian? and is visibly reviewing anything he might've said in russian in shane's presence over the past seven years or whatever, shane's like uh no just figured out what "papa" means. what's going on in that moment? shane's making another bid for connection, which happens sooo frequently in this show (he's always trying to get ilya to tell him more about his life outside of the time they spend together). and once again ilya doesn't answer. i've read some people (including i think connor storrie in an interview?) say that they imagined ilya was feeling sort of warmly Seen in this moment and that's why he starts cuddling shane on the couch, but i definitely read it as 1) ilya swerving to avoid divulging anything real about his family life, and 2) ilya steering them back not towards sex exactly but at least towards physical contact, where he obviously feels safer and more in control of the situation.
i don't think shane interprets this moment as "i asked him a question and he's so grateful i inquired about how he's feeling that now he wants to snuggle me," i think he experiences it as "i asked him a question and he avoided answering again and now he wants to shift things back towards sex, which is what he primarily wants from me." let's remember that shane probably spent the whole time ilya was on the phone spiraling miserably about ilya's little speech and perhaps especially fixating on the "i don't like you as a person, obviously, but you have a good mouth" line that ilya left on. so okay, ilya doesn't like him as a person, ilya doesn't want to connect with him as a person, but shane has a good mouth, and shane can - he can make this work, he can take what he's given, if it means getting to keep this for a little while longer.
in his earlier monologue ilya says something like, "i'll probably find someone else soon... or maybe i won't, you know i'm lazy," which i THINK is him trying to (very poorly) communicate to shane that he's going to dial back the whole sleeping with other people thing because he has feelings for shane. but can you imagine how poor shane hears that?? ilya's telling him that he's probably going to find something else, presumably with a woman since he can't stop talking about them, as soon as he can get up off his ass and get back out there. i would PERSONALLY hear that as "i'm ready to stop fucking around, i'm probably going to start looking for someone who really is perfect for me, and then who knows what'll happen here, i hope you get yourself a girlfriend so you don't need this anymore." so maybe in shane's head it's like, now there's a time limit on this. now there's an expiration date. i need to be making the most of this while i still get to have it because rozanov's telling me not to count on this going on forever. i need to be trying to convince him that i'm not boring, that my mouth is good enough to keep me around. i don't think shane's inner monologue would be that explicitly self-pitying but i'd guess that's sort of what he's feeling.
also i've said this before but i think it's interesting that shane really looks like he's going to go in for a blowjob and then abruptly changes gears and gets on top. like he's still in his head a little bit about the "but you have a good mouth" comment. and someone else (i can't remember who but pls come and claim your headcanon!!) made a great point that shane might also be thinking in that moment about ilya repeatedly saying he's boring, and wondering if a blowjob is too boring, and trying to do something more unpredictable/interesting. except all he can think of is to mimic what he thinks ilya might do in that situation, ie get on top and try to act more in control of the scenario than he really feels. and then ilya calls him by his first name perhaps in an unintentional way, shane calls ilya by his first name in a much more intentional way, and then shane gets visibly rattled because he is in way over his head here and he can't do this anymore, he can't play pretend intimacy when he knows ilya's just going to pull the rug out from under him when he's least expecting it.
"Maybe you should... do you want me to...?"
HEATED RIVALRY | 1.06 "The Cottage"
So here is my overly long and overly personal essay on hopes and fears for S2 of Heated Rivalry, and especially Shane.
I’m very very much a “people be saying things so definitively, idk man I think it depends” mindset as a person. I like reading different perspectives and can often sympathise with more than one at a time. In this case, am always back and forth on how much goodwill I have for the books and the intentionality of their characterisation, esp in TLG. But have looked over and edited this a bunch of times and it’s the closest to a good-faith snapshot of what I’m thinking as am going to get at this stage, so 🤷🏻♀️.
Also, a lot of this is probably the coldest of takes after what I imagine have been months of discourse (have been reading some really good insights over the last couple days), but I came to HR fandom fairly recently, and began writing this like a fortnight ago as very much an exercise in sketching out the overall shape of my thoughts on TLG. So probably not contributing anything new, but am trying to get used to having a blog and putting any thoughts out again, so! Here are some thoughts.
Also! This is Shane-focused bc I feel he was let down much more in TLG, but that doesn’t in any way mean I don’t want justice done to Ilya’s arc - just that I feel the material and therefore the roadmap already largely exists for it by comparison. In fact, though, I think giving Shane his dues would improve the story all round, contextualising BOTH their characters and perspectives as both understandable and flawed, and highlighting not just Ilya’s frustration but also why he loves Shane in the first place (which was also underdone in the book sometimes IMO, and can make him come across as uncaring too).
Kingdon Season 1 timeline (The Pitt)
I need a way to keep track of what happens when, so here is my comprehensive timeline of Mel/Frank moments in each episode. Thanks to everyone who's making gifs of the show so I could attach them in this post!
Objective happenings in normal font, (my own thoughts in italics and parentheses) *warning: gif heavy post under the cut*
All fun and jokes aside. If the energy is not charged and intense next season between Sydney and Carmy I'm done with The Bear.
Like how in the world can they go back to normal after everything they said to each other. "You're suppose to be here". Sydney telling Carmy she wanted him there with her. "You're my partner" she's telling him I'm choosing YOU, even though hes always hurting her. "Any chance of good started when you walked into this building" that's Carmy confessing he sees her. That's him telling her he's been paying attention and tuning right into her from the very beginning. "You're The Bear" Now for the love of God.....if nothing else from that alley fight don't throw them off their axis.....that Fxing 3 letter word seal the deal. How can they go back to normal after that confession, that she's officially part of him. It was more than a love confession.😭😭😭 The raw emotiona, him seeing Sydney in distress and crying. There is no going back from all that. Carmy broke something in Sydney and if he's not a complete mess next season because of it.......I'm done. I know he's looking for peace and happiness, but I don't want him to find it until he's doing right by Syd. Yes, I'm being selfish. I know Carmy is traumatized and all, but that doesn't give him the right to hurt people who loves him and sacrifice alot for him. Healing is a team work thing. He needs to surround himself with people who love and support him. Hurting Syd n The Bear Family is unacceptable. Traumatized or not.
I love that Carmy put it all out there for her to hear bcuz he realized she wanted him there😭😭😭. He thought she didn't and that's why she didn't sign the agreement. Now, both of these dumbaxx kids thinking they don't want each other. While Sydney wants Carmy and Carmy needs Syd.
Season 5 have to be intense. I want to see how unstable Carmy's gonna be when Syd ghost him like he ghosted Claire.
Can he go weeks or months without talking to Syd?
How will Sydney distancing herself affects him?
How will Carmy feel seeing Richie steal/gain the attention of someone he loves or admire again?
When will Syd confess about EMP!? Why is it taking forever?? TF! That confession better be the biggest thing in tv history since I have to wait 10,000bc for it. LMAO.
Just venting cuz season 4 got me all the way fx.ed up! Carm and Syd was next level intimate without even touching. Claire got nothing on them. It's time for Carmy to stop the emotional cheating and just choose Sydney.
The End lmao.