*sigh* fine, fine, i'll be the new doctor who showrunner. bring me two twinks, britain's tallest woman, and 1000 pounds worth of alumininamian foil

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*sigh* fine, fine, i'll be the new doctor who showrunner. bring me two twinks, britain's tallest woman, and 1000 pounds worth of alumininamian foil
and the winner of superwholock is officially??? no one. we all lost. congrats team
"The Girl in the Fireplace" has two of the greatest companion fashion moments in Doctor Who:
Mickey wearing retro gamer swag
Rose wearing a t-shirt for the Wichita Falls Fighting Tigers, a sports team made up for this t-shirt worn by Rose Tyler
It’s crazy because they really wouldn’t be in this situation if they’d just ended gatwa’s regeneration with a cut-to-black cliffhanger, instead of writing themselves into this shitshow corner with a desperate clutch at one-upped nostalgia-bait.
Listen I’ve been ride or die for Billie Piper since I was five years old but I was filled with both dread and disdain at that series ending. I have no interest in seeing how they wrap up this lore-changing plot device in one throwaway episode.
And now what brave idiot is going to want to pick up a new series when they have to first address and fix somebody else’s car crash ego stroke.
For some reason (ego) there was such a push to say everything’s fine, nothings gone wrong, this is all according to my plan, as if the audience would never watch again following such a blank slate.
If they’d said look we’ve had some last minute changes so we’re not sure what the future looks like now but we’re working on some exciting ideas, that would have been actually totally fine. All they had to do was not jump the gun.
But only if you can bear to admit that you weren’t completely in control with a mastermind cunning plan the whole time.
It’s crazy because they really wouldn’t be in this situation if they’d just ended gatwa’s regeneration with a cut-to-black cliffhanger, instead of writing themselves into this shitshow corner with a desperate clutch at one-upped nostalgia-bait.
Listen I’ve been ride or die for Billie Piper since I was five years old but I was filled with both dread and disdain at that series ending. I have no interest in seeing how they wrap up this lore-changing plot device in one throwaway episode.
And now what brave idiot is going to want to pick up a new series when they have to first address and fix somebody else’s car crash ego stroke.
my feeling with regards to the billie piper cliffhanger was like 'well it's stupid but i suppose if this is what it takes to secure the show's ongoing existence it will be worth it'. consequently i now feel comfortable saying: that was simply fucking stupid wasn't it
I really enjoy torchwood for asking the important question of like what if all your coworkers were in the the worst polycule ever
Gwens my eyes at you
the thing about torchwood is that for about 2-3 episodes in the second series it was like what if you were a kind of shitty guy and you acted like you didn't care about anyone and just used them for sex and then you died, like died died and suddenly you lost the only things you used to enjoy, food and drink and sex, and now you're a broken shell of a human being wandering the earth with nothing left to numb the pain and you're so used to embodying the asshole that you lash out even at the one person who loves you unconditionally and all the while you're rotting?
anyway back to our regularly scheduled cardiff
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soooooo funny that gwen ends up being the one to run torchwood in jack's absence. like yeah I guess when the competition is "woman with no people skills who doesn't really want to do anything other than hack into top secret government databases and mess around with alien tech", "emotionally unstable man who recently got dumped by someone he was never actually dating and handled it so bad he joined an alien fight club about it", and "24 year old who commands zero respect and still kind of gets treated as the intern who fetches everyone coffee by his coworkers regardless of his actual contributions", the woman who's worked there like six months tops and still doesn't entirely understand what they do but at the very least has the ability to tell people to shut up and listen and have them actually do it does actually end up being the best pick for leader
@iant0jones keeping ALL of that
heartbreaking! a pretty solid standalone horror story has gotten a continuation that recontextualizes all of its self-contained events as part of a massive & banal "epic" mythos
I should go. — TORCHWOOD (2.12) FRAGMENTS
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watching doctor who is so funny because it’s a fairly harmless family show most of the time. but every few years This Guy shows up, clearly in some deeply dysfunctional, visibly sexual relationship (which they NEVER fully explain to you) with the otherwise normally family friendly main character.
he’s in maybe 3 episodes and then haunts the narrative for at least the next season. you look him up and this has been happening reliably since the 1970s and also he’s been, at various intervals, a cat, a skeleton, and a snake made of goo, during all of which the toxic yaoi has continued undisturbed
Jack's behaviour during Exit Wounds is soooo interesting to me. I want to know why the writerly decisions were the way they were for this episode. Like on one level it's not very good writing but on another level it's actually really cool characterisation decisions.
At the start of the episode, Jack and John are both playing two roles at once. John is Gray's puppet --which Torchwood don't know yet-- but through trying to make his actions seem genuine he's also trying to hint that they're not. Jack is for the most part trying to be the leader of Torchwood, but also trying to connect with John in some way in order to get him to stop, because he thinks his actions are genuine. Even when the ruse is revealed Jack is still aggressive and hostile to John -- because he doesn't know Gray's role in all this.
As soon as Gray appears, Jack regresses. For the entire rest of the episode until Tosh's death, Jack is not leader of Torchwood, he's not a dashing hero, he's not John's partner, I don't think he's even Jack Harkness. He regresses entirely back to a teenager who feels guilty for his brother's abduction.
I think from my guess, Jack was probably about 14 when Gray was taken. And he regresses straight back to that. All he can say is that he's sorry, all he can do is say that he tried to find him and couldn't, he can do absolutely nothing but confess his feelings of guilt over and over. He lets Gray yell at him and says nothing because he believes he deserves it. Gray stabs him and Jack doesn't struggle. When they're in the field in 27 AD, Gray only stops because John tries to intervene, and he pushes Jack into the grave. And as John observes at the end of the episode, Jack just accepts his burial as well. He takes it on as penance, as though the past 150 years of immortality and all the time before that he spent trying to find Gray weren't enough.
But I think what interests me most are his actions when Gray finds him in the morgue. The drawer slides back and the first thing Jack says is "I forgive you." And then he walks away as Gray yells at him. When he turns back he says tearfully "I forgive you. I gave you absolution. Now do the same for me."
Jack has spent his whole life looking for Gray, unable to find him, horrifically guilty and desperate to be relieved of that guilt. But Gray isn't looking to be forgiven, because he doesn't feel guilty about what he's doing. He's looking for revenge, for torture. (And honestly considering what he says to Tosh after he shoots her, I think he's hoping someone will kill him.) He doesn't care about Jack forgiving him because he wants Jack to feel guilty and he wants Jack to suffer.
In the uncut version of the script, John tells Jack that when he found Gray, Gray thought John was Jack and seemed so happy, like everything would be all right if Jack appeared. But that didn't happen. Someone else rescued Gray. And in Gray's eyes, Jack has lived for so long and has had so much time and never found him, and I think he's full of pain and rage at that and at all the things he endured.
And then there's Jack, who just wants to be free of all the guilt and grief he's suffered over Gray. But "I forgave you, now you forgive me" just can't work. Because Jack is willing to accept that guilt and that penance and he believes that it is his fault, whereas Gray doesn't think he has anything to be forgiven for. And it feels to me like such a childlike thing to say, to insist on: "I did this for you, now it's only fair that you do the same for me, even though our circumstances are not equal."
Jack's dialogue throughout his interactions with Gray are simple sentences, apologies, pleading, ineloquent explanations, while in contrast Gray's dialogue is made up of monologues of weirdly poetic and flowery prose, even though it's gruesome and violent. Jack, confronted with his brother in a position of power over him, regresses back to a younger version of himself and his extreme emotion means words fail him, while Gray has grown and learned from I assume both his torturers and the victims around him, so his extreme emotions have been honed in entirely towards anger and revenge, and he has years of things to say.
I think Jack's confrontation with the source of his own guilt means he is almost entirely unable to act. I think if he'd had to subdue Gray in a more violent way, he wouldn't have been able to do it. That he can do it in a way that begins with an embrace is important, because I think it was almost his only option. As soon as Gray is unconscious, Jack is back to being Captain Jack Harkness as he releases John and Gwen and Ianto from the cells.
But with Gray, in front of Gray, because of Gray, he is not Captain Jack Harkness. He's a scared, guilty, grieving, desperate teenager who wants his father back and who feels like this thing that was completely out of his control was all his fault, and that feeling of guilt has been building for 150 years into this huge thing that is the basis of most of his motivation. So confronted with its source, he goes back to that teenage self and says and does desperate and almost ridiculous things, because he's a teenager who wants to stop feeling like the whole world is on his shoulders and like he did such a bad thing and like this thing he couldn't fix was his fault, not because he's an adult who is able to carry the weight of responsibility.