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[just-frozen-stuff]

If Hans returns in Frozen 3 (hopefully with a redemption arc)

[queenstc]

Someone needs to draw this, when they get five minutes and if I do not see fanart of this and at least a few more weeks from now then I will draw it myself.

[just-frozen-stuff]

I would love to see your rendition queen.

[just-frozen-stuff]

If Hans returns in Frozen 3 (hopefully with a redemption arc)

[queenstc]

I will color this in later but here is a rush sketch of it.

[just-frozen-stuff]

I squealed when I saw this! Absolute perfection

[icepinksawn]

I just finished read “All is Found: A Frozen Anthology”

In the chapter “Coronation Day”. Elsa gets trapped in a perfect dream like reality created by Ahtohallan. In this version of her life, her parents are alive, Anna always knew about her powers, Arendelle accepts her magic from the very beginning, and her coronation goes exactly the way she always wished it would.

And then there’s Hans.

What’s fascinating is that this isn’t the Hans from the end of Frozen. This is Hans as he exists within Elsa’s idealized version of reality. He dances with her, talks with her, charming her, and is simply part of a world where everything went right instead of wrong.

What makes the scene so interesting is that it gives us a glimpse of what Elsa’s perfect life looks like. In a reality built from her hopes rather than her fears, Hans isn’t a threat. He’s just… there.

It’s such a small moment, but it raises so many questions. How different would things have been if the coronation had gone perfectly? If Elsa had never lived in fear? If Hans had entered a completely different version of her story?

And honestly? As a longtime Helsa fan, I can’t help but find that incredibly interesting.

[queenofnightverona]

Arrangement - Part 1

Childhood would end for Prince Hans exactly the second he stepped onto the gangplank. He would be happy to get rid of the oppression of his brothers, the stigma of being the spare, but for this he needed to leave behind a lifetime – eighteen boring, often wretched and lonely, yet years spent in familiar surroundings.

But who said anything would change? Why is it that even if he is a stranger and unnecessary in his native home, he would finally find his place in distant Arendelle? Maybe he shouldn't have agreed to it at all. Since when does the groom travel to the bride, and not the other way around! On the other hand, she would be the queen, and he would be her king. And he would never be superfluous again, never left in the shadows. And the time would come, and he would set conditions for his older brothers.

The suitcases were still on the beach. Hans couldn't bring himself to give the order  to bring them in. He stood before the first step, unable to take it. As soon as his hand twitched towards the railing, he looked around. Behind him, at the port, his brothers were standing and staring at him with cold, indifferent looks, as if saying, "Just leave already – we have more important things to do." It was a shame, but it was familiar. They were another reason to finally take this step.

But besides them, he left behind the palace in which he grew up – his room, where he and his beloved nanny learned to read and played with toy soldiers. She was his dearest person in this world that seemed to push him out at every turn. The nanny had been working for other people for a long time, all he had left was correspondence. Where once he had waited less than a week for a reply, soon even a month would not be enough.

The king looked at his youngest son with the same coldness as his older children, and the queen, as if she were out of this world, did not even look at Hans. She looked at the sea and the sky, gray, cold, but still calm. And Hans knew she was the only one who cared about him today. She wasn't ignoring her son; she was simply making sure the weather would hold. And he would arrive safely. 

His mother nodded imperceptibly at him, and he took the difficult, fateful first stride. Then the queen couldn't stand it and ran out to the pier to hug her son one last time. The young man turned around before he could step higher. Now he felt calmer: there would be a person who would pray for him, there would be a person on whom he would rely in case of trouble.

She took a deep breath and released the prince, but remained standing on the dock until the gangplank was raised and the sails lowered. Then she returned to her family and waved a tear-stained handkerchief after the departing ship for a long time.

The prince also stood at the stern and watched as his huge family gradually turned into indistinguishable figures, then into dots, and then completely merged with the surroundings. And so the horizon became unfathomably far away from all sides. Where the house used to be, there was now a dark strip of land where seagulls flew to their nests. His path lay in the other direction, to where the sea and sky merge, hiding behind them the mysterious closed kingdom of Arendelle.

It wasn't going to be a long journey, and at the end, it was going to be unknown. For many years now, the doors of their palace had been kept sealed. Hans would be the first one to enter there in a long time, and it was unclear how long he would be confined. And for what reason... What were they hiding that was so terrible? What was the threat to the new inhabitants of the palace? After all, Their Majesties forbade even taking a chamberlain with them, promising to provide a servant from their staff in order to let as few strangers into their house as possible.

 "Your Highness, the cabin is ready," a voice sounded somewhere to the Prince's right.

Reluctantly, he let go of the fence and turned away from the house. His old house. Then he turned and made his way to a temporary shelter on the way to a new one.

A modest sailor's cabin. It didn't look like a prince lives here at all. No portraits, no silk sheets, no golden forks. Only the carvings on the baseboards betrayed the noble origin of the guest. There wasn't even a fireplace, did his father think his son was that stupid, even thinking that he might have burned down the ship trying to keep warm? Hans was left with only a kerosene stove, which can only light up a desk. And the prince would be kept warm by a brand-new woolen blanket in the colors of the Southern Islands - blue and white. His last warm reminder of his abandoned home.

Now he was going to become the king of a distant kingdom. Marry a girl locked in a golden cage, guarding something. Is the castle protecting her, or from her? What is it about this strange place? His father had traded with Arendelle. Very successfully. They supplied fine wood, and the rarest marble was mined in their mountains, on which Hans spent his childhood slipping on the palace corridors. He knew the Arendelle rocks, so to speak, by sight.

Even now, the deck beneath his feet was covered with pine planks, sawn from trees once owned by this strange kingdom. So many years had passed, and the ship was still moving. The ship had served for the royal family's short cruises, and the lessons of all thirteen princes in navigation. When each of them took the helm for the first time, he ordered all sails to be lowered and drove, pushed by the wind, cutting through the waves, to meet the open sea, the smell of salt and freshness, storms and gales — everything that made up the free and exciting spirit of life on the water. And here he was, Hans, on the same ship, with his own crew, but he was no longer interested in the steering wheel or the white crests. 

As a child, this adventure had no end, the boys simply sailed the waters, having fun while the teachers drew routes on the maps to be able to return home. And now the end is quite obvious. There is a country, and in that country there is a port, in the port there is a pier. The pier is the end. The end of his past life as the last heir, the youngest son, and the loser by birthright. The pier is the beginning. The beginning of his era, the reign of King Hans.

The already leaden sky darkened even more under the onslaught of twilight. Darkness enveloped the cabin and pressed on his eyes and temples. The kerosene stove could no longer cope with its task, and Hans was in no hurry to pour fuel into it. After hours of brooding over his uncertain future, the walls began to close in on him. He wanted to relax so much, to feel the spirit of sea adventure, the power of the elements, the roar of the sea, the waves. Like any boy, Hans wanted to let all the colors of life pass through him: danger and salvation, threat, luck, fear, and that feeling of being on the verge of death and surviving — rebirth.

He went out onto the deck and lay down dangerously on the railing. The rounded railing did not provide reliable support, and his feet slipped on the wet deck. The sailors squinted at him and exchanged glances.

The sailors exchanged looks that said plainly: the prince is off to marry and rule, yet he looks darker than the sky. One wrong move and he'll go overboard. What's gotten into him? That, at least, was what their glances seemed to say.

Hans was glad to get a chance to build a new life, but the problem was the fear of failure. He couldn't become someone when he was born a prince, and now he had to become a king when he arrived as an outsider. The feeling of anticipating difficulties stifled the expectation of something new and joyful.

The wind played with his hair. Drops of water, foaming under the keel, pleasantly splashed against his face. The chill of the sea sent shivers down his spine. 

This must be what the breath of change feels like.

[just-frozen-stuff]

If Hans returns in Frozen 3 (hopefully with a redemption arc)

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Continuing my princess fixation, Queen Elsa! ❄️❄️❄️

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He’s fine.

[northwind-queen]

THIS!! THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I NEED FOR FROZEN 3!!!

📎: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DZklMCINJhu/?igsh=MWN1eDh2MnJuNXF1Yg==

[holyholiic]

Show yourself

[just-frozen-stuff]

The colors are absolutely divine. The details *chefs kiss.* And Elsa with a sword will never not be cool.

[bigfrozenfan]

Arendelle Average Weather and Temperatures plus location IRL

UPDATE to this post: please also note an additional post/answer to an anon question on the Arendelle Archives blog, regarding the Aurora Borealis (Northern Lights)!

Recently someone on reddit in the r/Frozen sub asked what the average weather and temperatures were like in Arendelle. LINK This promptly got me thinking about it in more detail and I've now theorised, based on @virtual-winter's recent maps, about Arendelle's possible position in the real world. The decisive factor is the known longitude and latitude on the official Frozen maps (virtual-winter had created a very detailed analysis of this in 2022, which you should definitely take a look at. See link below for the updated file).

My response on reddit was initially as follows: This would require knowing the exact real position of Arendelle in Norway and, as it is a fictitious kingdom, there can of course be no comparable weather data. In addition, the climate around 1840 was not subject to today's environmental influences (pre-industrialisation) and modern weather records usually only start at the beginning of the 20th century. The average temperatures mid of the 19th century were somewhat cooler overall (approx. 1 degree Celsius colder).

Here is my complete, significantly expanded theory.

Some facts about Arendelle's capital regarding weather influences and average annual temperatures:

location of the fictitious capital of the kingdom: a) Arendelle lies at sea level b) directly on the western coast c) right on the Arenfjord, which does not freeze over in winter (connected to the North Sea to the south and the storm-prone Dark Sea to the north) d) bordered to the east by a high mountain wall, to the west by a towering plateau (Vesterland?), which protects the city from direct weather influences from both seas, bordered to the north by high mountain ranges and forests, to the south there are mountain ranges along the entire coast.

2. known weather facts about Arendelle's seasons from the films, books and comics: a) sunny spring with pleasant temperatures b) mild to sometimes very hot summers, mountain peaks in the surrounding area are snow-free c) pleasant autumn, very fertile for harvests and livestock farming d) snowy, long and dark winters

Note: based on the assumed location in the real world, the probability of seeing the Northern Lights is close to zero, as Arendelle would be far too far south of the Arctic Circle (so in the Frozen universe the Arctic Circle must have simply been placed further south). Only from Bodø, Norway, which lies within the Arctic Circle, and further north, does the probability of seeing the Northern Lights increase. Tromsø - the Arctic capital, known for the iconic Arctic Cathedral and the Polar Museum - is one of the most popular destinations for this and is famous for the midnight sun in summer. Winter is the high season there. The highest activity for the Aurora Borealis is in spring (March/April) and autumn (September/October) and is best seen in cold, dry weather and clear dark skies.

3. comparable reference locations in Norway (north/south line), based on the map of virtual-winter (based on a map design of the ‘Golden Age’, where the prime meridian is somewhere in the Atlantic and therefore places Arendelle in the middle of the North Sea, still off the west coast of Norway, here 62°15'N 0°E): a) a few kilometres south of Ålesund (harbour town on the west coast, located at the entrance to the Geirangerfjord) b) Ørsta, in the province of Møre og Romsdal, village on the innermost part of Ørstafjorden, surrounded by the Sunnmørsalpene mountains c) The village of Volda, in the province of Møre og Romsdal, about 10 kilometres southwest of Ørsta, on the northeastern shore of the Voldsfjorden. d) Straumshamn, a village in the province of Møre og Romsdal at the southern end of the Kilsfjord branch of the Voldsfjorden. The Bjørkedalen valley runs south of Straumshamn and cuts between the Sunnmørsalpene mountains. e) Bjørkedal, in the county of Møre og Romsdal, between Nordfjordeid and Volda by the Bjørkedalsvatnet lake. Not far south of Bjørkedal is the border between Møre og Romsdal and the province of Vestland. f) Nordfjordeid, a picturesque small town in the province of Vestland, situated on the banks of the Edisfjord and surrounded by impressive mountains and unspoilt nature. Note: Bergen is on the one hand far too far south - almost on a par with the ‘southern islands’ - and on the other hand has a high probability of rain 268 days a year! Options b) and c) are therefore comparatively the most likely. Hint: @virtual-winter has transferred the coordinates on Iduna's map in Frozen II into real-world coordinates. According to this, Arendelle would be in the centre of Finland, near the town of Pieksämäki (see picture below). In this context, I highly recommend reading his 39-page PDF analysis ‘An Odyssey through Frozen Geography’ in the updated version from September 2023! LINK

4. annual average temperatures, precipitation and daylight in the overview using the example of the villages Ørsta and Volda.

Note: all map pictures created by virtual-winter, slightly edited by me for this post.

Additional links to the Aurora Borealis aka Northern Lights: The Aurora Oval & Ovation Map Where is the best place to see the Northern Lights When is the best time to see the Northern Lights?

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All brothers together

[holyholiic]

I opened rendered character illustration commissions on VGen!

Check it out here !

[mercywept]

And if I said piss punk by vial is an accurate representation of Charlie's uglier side manifesting.

[holyholiic]

Well maybe I'm a crook

[just-frozen-stuff]

oh my…its beautiful.

[simkaye]

Comment "stupid joke" to move your IT ticket to the front of the queue🤓

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About Kristoff being of Northuldra descent

We know that Kristoff and the Northuldras was inspired by the Saami, but after Frozen 2 placing Anna and Elsa as the descendants I left this aside, however, today I found a connection in the films!

Until then, only the Northuldras seemed to know about the Fifth Spirit, but there is another group that knows about Elsa's power and how it works, the ice collectors!

In the opening song of Frozen they talk about her, and I know this was just a resource used and aimed at us, but when we go back to the world of Frozen it's interesting for them to know.

Despite this, I don't think they stayed out of the forest the day it was sealed, but rather that it was a group that went to Arendelle much earlier and their legends ended up being diluted over time.

Am I traveling too much?

[virtual-winter]

This aligns perfectly with my headcanon about Kristoff and the ice harvesters in Arendelle being a different branch of the Northuldra people. I like calling them the Southuldra as a reference to them both having one common ancestor: the "Uldra" people. You can actually find Northuldra spelled out as "North uldra" on the back of a book that is part of the scenery at Frozen Kingdom in Tokyo, indicating to me they are merely the northern branch. And since Northuldra is a name given to them by outsiders, it seems like a rational way to distinguish them from their southern relatives living in Arendelle.

As shown in the novel Dangerous secrets (ch. 22), the ice harvesters clothes are apparently so similar to those of the Northuldra that Iduna mistakes an ice harvester woman for her own people.

This passage also reveals a lot of other interesting stuff: the ice harvesters are nomads just like the Northuldra and sing the same kind of songs. I also find the line about the Northuldra having "expanded quite a bit before the day of the dam" interesting as it could mean there had been Northuldra living outside of the mist for over 30 years by the time of the movies.

Outside the movies and novels, a few comic books show that other members of Kristoff's people appear to be limited to only two lines of profession: ice harvesting and reindeer herding, possibly indicating they are only allowed to have these jobs and that they possibly belong to a different class than other Arendelle citizens.

There is an interesting comic called This land is our land that brings up a conflict between reindeer herders and muskox farmers and I've always seen it as a parallel to real-life conflicts of interest between the Sámi and Scandinavian settlers. In the end though, both groups are convinced they are dependent on each other.

One reindeer herder named Yan reappears in the comic Reindeer games.

Also about magic, I've always found it interesting Kristoff wasn't the slightest bit surprised about Anna's question about seeing magic on the North Mountain and I do fancy the idea that his people has a deeper connection with folklore and mythology and treat magic as something more "everyday" compared to the average Arendellian (although that could of course be unique to him as he grew up with trolls).

I really hope Frozen III will explore Kristoff's family and that we'll learn something about his people.

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I’m really excited that others are curious about this topic as it’s something I’ve been exploring for over a year in my upcoming Frozen fanfic ‘The Reindeer King’ along with the origins/disappearance of the original Fifth Spirit. I’d love to hear what other theories fans might have?! 🩵❄️

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The moment Hans appears in Frozen 3:

Hopefully we get more than just a cameo.