You guys realize Jewish people don’t have to leave when Israel is abolished right??
Why do you dread living with Palestinians so much??
I’d ask for you to look up the 1834 Looting of Safed, the 1929 Hebron Massacre, the 1934-1936 Arab Uprisings, the 2001 Sbarro Suicide Bombing, the 2014 Har Nof Synagogue Attack, every bus bombing and lone-wolf stabbing attack in Israel… I could go on and on.
Much (though not all) of the Palestinian population has been radicalized by Hamas and its terror proxies. Do you know what their children are taught in schools? It’s horrifying. Please do more research into the conflict before asking these questions.
@deulalune - You say "when" Israel is abolished. I'd like to ask you, very seriously: how? How is Israel going to be abolished? Who is going to do it? What will happen to the system of government and the civilians who populate the internationally-recognised sovereign state of Israel?
Let's assume, in this fantasy world that you're living in, Israel is "abolished". Worst case scenario is that Hamas, a terrorist organisation, somehow wins this war - a war that they started on October 7 with the single most deadly pogrom against Jews seen since the Holocaust.
Hamas's genocidal intentions have never been a secret. When they attacked Israel on October 7, killing 1200 people and taking over 250 hostages (seizing noncombatants, women, children and infants, and internationals; a literal war crime, by the way) they did not do so in the name of Palestinian liberation; they did not do so in the name of the West Bank. They did it to kill Jews. Did you know that Vivian Silver, a Canadian-born Israeli activist who devoted her life to seeking peace with the Palestinians, was confirmed killed in Hamas’ Oct. 7 incursion into southern Israel?
Vivian Silver (z''l), like most left-wing Israelis campaigned and advocated for decades for peace, to coexist with Palestinians. She co-founded Women Wage Peace. (Palestinian peace activist Samah Salaime wrote a tribute to Vivian.) The group Standing Together is comprised of Palestinian and Israeli peace activists. A Land For All outlines a beautiful two-state solution that left-wing Israelis, Palestinians, and anyone committed to peace are desperate for people to promote and support.
Israelis and Jews do not "dread" living with Palestinians. Israelis dread living in a world where Israel has been eradicated by genocidal terrorists, whose children are taught to kill Jews.
And if you think, in this fantasy world where Israel is dissolved (by whom? How? When?) and the new state of Palestine (run by Hamas? By the PA? By Fatah?) will be friendly to Jews, I invite you get a sense of how Jews were treated by the Arab world, and then invite you to explain why you think Jews would be treated any better in a Muslim-majority ethnostate.
I see in a different reblog of this post, OP added "The settlers must leave or legitimately purchase a home once Israel is gone."
This is a truly unhinged, uneducated take. The "settlers" are Israeli residents who have lived in Israel for five or more generations, or descendants of Jews who lived in the British Mandate. Leave? Leave and go where? My family were Egyptian Jews who were forcibly expelled from Egypt in the 1950s. Israel was the only country in the entire world that would take them as citizens.
Legitimately purchase a home? Israeli citizens already own their own homes. They paid real, internationally-recognised money for the land to which they hold internationally-recognised title deeds for.
Once Israel is gone? Again - HOW? How do you see Israel disappearing? WHO is going to do it? Israel exists, it has existed for 75 years, and Eretz Yisrael existed continuously for thousands of years for the Jewish people regardless of its colonised/conquered name of "Palestine". Israel will not be "abolished". It isn't going anywhere. You can either accept that reality and turn your efforts towards advocating for a two-state solution (I cannot stress enough how important A Land For All is), or you can take your childish, ignorant takes and sit down to let the adults talk.
If you won't listen to me, though, listen to a real Palestinian peace activist: "If it's not helping, then shut the fuck up."
Yeah it doesn’t matter how long an Israeli lives in Israel if it’s post 40s, they’re a settler. Israelis didn’t pay for their homes, they STOLE it in the Nakba. Ur family are also settlers I’m sorry mate.
My family were refugees who, after centuries, returned to their homeland. I do note that you were unable to explain in any meaningful way how Israel will be dismantled, who will do it, nor any acknowledgement of Palestinian and Israeli peace efforts.
I also note that you're Algerian. Algeria, where are your Jews? What happened to your Jews? If Israel is dismantled (lmao how? by whom?) will you take back the Algerian Jewish descendants and give them right of return and housing? Will you campaign to make your country friendly to Jews before you demand the Algerian Jewish refugees who fled your country in fear of their lives leave Israel?
Algerian Jews left because France enticed them with citizenship. They fled because they were forced to become strangers in what is rightfully their own country. I literally said that Jews don’t have to leave, they can stay in Palestine. I will campaign for Jews to return to Algeria and kindly research why they left before coming to me. Blocked 👍
On the eve of WWII, there were about 120,000 Jews in Algeria. In 1934, Muslims, incited by events in Nazi Germany, rampaged in Constantine, killing 25 Jews and injuring many more. Starting in 1940, under Vichy rule, Algerian Jews were persecuted socially and economically. On October 7, 1940, French citizenship was withdrawn from all Jews by the Vichy government.
In 1955, there were 140,000 Jews in Algeria. After being granted independence in 1962, the Algerian government harassed the Jewish community and deprived Jews of their economic rights. As a result, almost 130,000 Algerian Jews immigrated to France. Since 1948, 25,681 Algerian Jews have immigrated to Israel.
In 1994, the terrorist Armed Islamic Group - GIA declared its intention to eliminate Jews from Algeria. Following the announcement, many Jews left Algeria and the single remaining synagogue was abandoned. All other synagogues had previously been taken over for use as mosques.
Marking another step toward the end of the once vibrant Jewish community Algerian authorities moved forward with a project to demolish a Jewish cemetery in Oran in November 2015.
Still, the State Department estimated around 200 Jews remained in Algeria in 2020. Religious and civil society leaders reported that the Jewish community faced unofficial, religion-based obstacles to government employment and administrative difficulties when working with government bureaucracy.
