crashes through a wall and brushes dust off my clothes.
Q!Fit is coming home!!!
But there is still a cat shaped elephant in the room with blue and yellow eyes...
This will only mention Fit and Pac's relationship because Pac will probably play the biggest role in convincing everyone who the real Fit is.
Been looking at things here and on Twitter, so this is mostly me getting thoughts out
Onto my rambles XD
Madagio is using she/her just to help differentiate from Fit and Pac.
Now, I could be wrong, but I don't think Madagio knows 100% that Fit is coming back. She heard the portal sounds and Fit's camel husk but she may have not actually seen him. Not to mention the cinematic was for us the viewers as he was miles from the building at first. Makes sense if Madagio only has a limited view but if it is a fed building, I wonder what that means for Madagio's connection with the Feds... hmm... I don't trust that cat.
Also I believe Fit only mentioned the cinematic in pre-stream when talking to chat so it definitely wasn't in character.
I don't trust that cat and her claims of hating the Federation. Why get player data then if you want to take down the Feds? Why hasn't she done anything to get information? Why hasn't she encouraged methods of getting around the Feds?
(Personally I think it would be easy to retcon Pac never actually dying but instead Madagio created the grave in order to give Fit the push to leave the island as he may not have gone willingly if he believed Pac was still alive.)
Onto the potential aftermath of Fit's return;
I think it would be interesting if Fit does initially want to hear Madagio out (such as when he says he has something to give them) but that all changes when he finds out that Madagio has been kissing Pac. Why would Fit let Madagio live? If Madagio had just been pretending to be him that is one thing. But assaulting Pac? That is completely different.
I hope they give Fit the ability to use illegal items and such to show that he isn't under the control of the Federation.
Honestly, props to CC!Fit being willing to play a character that is a sexual assaulter. Because that is what and who Madagio is. Kissing someone who thinks who are another person is assault. Madagio may not be the best manipulator but it is the intent rather than the execution that matters.
Now...an ideal ending would be Madagio dying. Horribly. It wouldn't be happy for her but she doesn't deserve it. However, with Fit returning early I do worry about how satisfying it could be. Perhaps she runs off when it is revealed that she is impersonating Fit but...I don't know.
Maybe instead of dying right away she tries to go to the other Islanders but they don't trust her? Like she talked before about not getting attached and now she has and yet she winds up alone again. This time not because of the Federation but because of her own actions. She can only blame herself.
Realistically it would make sense to have Madagio alive a little longer cause she is an interesting character and we know next to nothing about her. She can change into a cat. She can change appearance with player data. She was able to get onto 2B2T and get Fit onto the island, somehow.
And that is all I can recall off the top of my head. Everything else we know is not confirmed on how she is tied to them. Like the cats from Vaccus Island? We don't know if she was a cat or one of those players or someone/something else entirely.
Anyway, my mind now is quiet I have wrote it. I do have to stop before my brain wants to add anything more. Must restrain myself as everything else is more incoherent than this.
ahhh a clone instead of actually being Madagio, a good and safe option. Helps ease my concerns and honestly an option I should have considered more obvious earlier haha
maybe a part of me is a bit disappointed it wasnt actually Madagio (i am a sucker for people getting revenge) but ya know, at least Madagio is being...Nice... And giving Fit space
crashes through a wall and brushes dust off my clothes.
Q!Fit is coming home!!!
But there is still a cat shaped elephant in the room with blue and yellow eyes...
This will only mention Fit and Pac's relationship because Pac will probably play the biggest role in convincing everyone who the real Fit is.
Been looking at things here and on Twitter, so this is mostly me getting thoughts out
Onto my rambles XD
Madagio is using she/her just to help differentiate from Fit and Pac.
Now, I could be wrong, but I don't think Madagio knows 100% that Fit is coming back. She heard the portal sounds and Fit's camel husk but she may have not actually seen him. Not to mention the cinematic was for us the viewers as he was miles from the building at first. Makes sense if Madagio only has a limited view but if it is a fed building, I wonder what that means for Madagio's connection with the Feds... hmm... I don't trust that cat.
Also I believe Fit only mentioned the cinematic in pre-stream when talking to chat so it definitely wasn't in character.
I don't trust that cat and her claims of hating the Federation. Why get player data then if you want to take down the Feds? Why hasn't she done anything to get information? Why hasn't she encouraged methods of getting around the Feds?
(Personally I think it would be easy to retcon Pac never actually dying but instead Madagio created the grave in order to give Fit the push to leave the island as he may not have gone willingly if he believed Pac was still alive.)
Onto the potential aftermath of Fit's return;
I think it would be interesting if Fit does initially want to hear Madagio out (such as when he says he has something to give them) but that all changes when he finds out that Madagio has been kissing Pac. Why would Fit let Madagio live? If Madagio had just been pretending to be him that is one thing. But assaulting Pac? That is completely different.
I hope they give Fit the ability to use illegal items and such to show that he isn't under the control of the Federation.
Honestly, props to CC!Fit being willing to play a character that is a sexual assaulter. Because that is what and who Madagio is. Kissing someone who thinks who are another person is assault. Madagio may not be the best manipulator but it is the intent rather than the execution that matters.
Now...an ideal ending would be Madagio dying. Horribly. It wouldn't be happy for her but she doesn't deserve it. However, with Fit returning early I do worry about how satisfying it could be. Perhaps she runs off when it is revealed that she is impersonating Fit but...I don't know.
Maybe instead of dying right away she tries to go to the other Islanders but they don't trust her? Like she talked before about not getting attached and now she has and yet she winds up alone again. This time not because of the Federation but because of her own actions. She can only blame herself.
Realistically it would make sense to have Madagio alive a little longer cause she is an interesting character and we know next to nothing about her. She can change into a cat. She can change appearance with player data. She was able to get onto 2B2T and get Fit onto the island, somehow.
And that is all I can recall off the top of my head. Everything else we know is not confirmed on how she is tied to them. Like the cats from Vaccus Island? We don't know if she was a cat or one of those players or someone/something else entirely.
Anyway, my mind now is quiet I have wrote it. I do have to stop before my brain wants to add anything more. Must restrain myself as everything else is more incoherent than this.
Been checking up on FitMC QSMP 2 streams and some of the lore theories about whether it is Fit or Madagio that he is playing and there are two main things that I noticed personally.
Nothing has like concrete evidence because it is more my brain rambling.
The two points are the stream titles and stream starting songs... or lack of them honestly.
This got a lot longer, not all of my thoughts but I tried to keep them clear?
First - Stream titles
QFit is a Historian. The vast majority of his QSMP 1 streams had the day count and a title. Which makes sense. Number can blur together but having words to identify certain days and events can keep those streams from blurring together.
Yet, only the first QSMP 2 stream had a title, which is interesting. And it is about getting more money. Hmm, a bit suspicious.
I may be recalling it wrong but it came off to me that QFit did not care much about the money but instead just wanted to get out of the wasteland. The money was a bonus. So why focus on the money instead of saying anything about being back again?
Well, Madagio isn't a historian. So why would they care about keeping things clean and organised about the events of the different days?
Second - Stream songs
CCFit loves using songs for story telling. I am pretty sure there is a document somewhere detailing the different songs used before each QSMP 1 stream and how they do or don't relate to QFit's character or story.
And there is one song I haven't heard. Maybe it has played and I skipped over it or it only played briefly. Even still I would reckon that it would be important to check. Just in case.
That is Concept of Love.
A really on the nose song about QFit's character and how to love is to be human. He is embracing being human by loving and to reject that it to reject humanity. Not just romantic with Pac and familial with Ramon but friendships as well. It played a lot on QSMP 1 and not during QSMP 2 (as of writing this).
Why?
Because it isn't Fit. It's Madagio. It has always been Madagio.
Personally, I think having Madagio as a character that just does not care or love any of the Islanders would be so much more interesting than them getting any kind of redemption.
And before you say anything about the interactions with Pac. Madagio knows Pac and Fit were romantic together. They know that. So they lean into it. Shower Pac with kisses and sweet words so Pac focuses on that and not the behaviours that would give Madagio away. It's love-bombing. The other original Islanders may not see anything wrong with it because it has been so long for all of them.
Ultimately, if it is Madagio then it makes sense to keep Pac unaware. Pac mentioned Madagio's name on the first day and he was told to not really mention the guy again.
I want it to be Madagio pretending to be Fit because the drama and angst that can come from it? Delicious.
Pac reuniting with the real Fit and having to fight with his brain because it still sees Madagio instead of Fit? Pac asking Madagio questions about their first date and Madagio not giving the correct answer making Pac realise that it isn't Fit? Pac pulling away and not sharing information with "Fit" only for "Fit" to ask him why he is doing that and he has done so much for Pac? Pac expecting Fit to shower him with love and affection like Madagio did only to realise and then feel sick that he would prefer an imposter over his actual boyfriend?
Also, a little small note that just came to mind and I wanted to toss out instead of making a new post
What if Fit saying to Maxo about his memory being hazy was not because his memory is hazy but because he doesn't have those memories? Fit could have easily not given Madagio all information (which is why he was surprised at Pac with Create). Lied or under/over exaggerated different information as a whole. Surely Fit, who is smart, would know better than to give all of his cards up to someone who he didn't really like anyway.
Though, we shall see how the rest of the story plays out. Whether it is true or not, I think it is fun. Once again, no explicit information, if I knew how to properly clip and post I would if I found things to note.
I had to draw this cute moment from "The Pride of a King" fanfic on AO3 by @/depayser68!! I fell in love with the fic and had do something with the feelings I got! And this is the outcome!
Fit: Is there anything you want to apologize for, Pac? Like, oh, I dunno... maybe trying to murder me?
Pac: To be honest with you, Fit– Ok, to be honest with you: wasn't my fault, I tried like my best to protect you, I didn't even like hit you! And I told the guys to not kill you like, a dozen- a million times, and I stood by your body, I cried by your body, and I even made you a coffin. Wasn't me, Fit. I made a promise with you, and I kept that promise!
Yesterday's long-awaited Hideduo reconciliation.
[ Full Transcript ↓ ]
Pac: Hi!
Tubbo: Hi, Pac!
Fit: Oh, look who it is!
Pac: Hello, FitMC, hello Tubbo the player!
Tubbo: –apparently no one, cannot hear him.
Pac: Hi, guys. What's happening? Why– [leans into his mic] Why everyone is blue? Why everyone is Blue?
Fit: Is there anything you want to apologize for, Pac? Like, oh, I dunno... maybe trying to murder me?
Pac: [Makes strange noises into the mic] Wasn't me! Wasn't me– like, to be honest with you, Fit– [Laughs] Tubbo just left, leave us. Ok, to be honest with you: wasn't my fault, I tried like my best to protect you, I didn't even like hit you! And I told the guys to not kill you like, a dozen- a million times, and I stood by your body, I cried by your body, and I even made you a coffin. Wasn't me, Fit. I made a promise with you, and I kept that promise!
Fit: Ok, ok...
Pac: You can blame everything on Tubbo, he's the one to be blamed on. I'm sorry, Tubbo.
Tubbo: [Laughs] To be fair– nah, that's fair, I– we had to kill you. It was a hit. We had to kill you.
Fit: No, it's–
Pac: Wait, I can't hear Tubbo. Oh, he's muted.
Tubbo: You have me muted. I had you muted as well, it's all right. [Laughs] We had each other muted.
Pac: Hi king!
Tubbo: Hi, how are you, Pac? Morning crew! Morning crew!
Pac: Yeah, morning crew!
Tubbo: We're so back!
Pac: We are so back, yeah! But like– it wasn't me– [stammers] Why were you are on Blue team, Fit? What happened? [Gasps] What happened?
Tubbo: Oh, a lot has happened.
Fit: Oh, yeah, but it's– Pac. I accept your apology, for trying to murder me. I accept it, I accept it. I accept your–
Pac: I didn't try–
Tubbo: He literally didn't hit you once!
Fit: [Laughing]
Pac: I didn't– I stood by your body! Man, I cried on your body!
Fit: Is that true?
Pac: It was true. Yeah, I can send you some- some like, some video tapes–
Fit: No, I believe you, I believe you, I believe you.
Tubbo: [Incredulous] "I can send you video tapes." That's crazy.
Pac: Not that I– not that I– I didn't record your dead body! No, that was weird.
Fit: Oh, that– I– thank you, thank you.
Pac: Ok, I was losing it, sorry.
Tubbo: He was just saving it for later, when he wanted to feel sad again.
Pac: Yeah, you know– not saving– yeah, saving for later to show you that– [stumbles over his words] –you know? I stand by your side. Ok, ok, I'm sorry Fit.
Fit: No, no, I believe you, Pac. I believe you, I believe you.
Tubbo: And they were roommates!
Fit: Enough, Tubbo! Just– shut your fcking mouth, Tubbo! We're just having a conversation here. We're having a conversation here!
Tubbo: I literally– I literally didn't even say anything, I literally didn't even say anything. That is crazy that you think I said something just then.