Ladies, Ladies! *I say as a mob of women tear out my esophagus*
Intro Post!!
Hi, hi, hello there! Im Kora! or Kaz, idrc :p
Imma lay the important stuff out here, but theres more in my carrd! (Linked below).
First off. My DNI.
It's pretty basic. Normal DNI criteria with 2 specifics.
1. State's Evidence fans go away. And i mean FANS. Not analysists trying to disect and understand. I mean people who enjoy and endorse the content of the film. Leave.
2. Those who refuse to do reality checks. Im not saying go in guns blazing and tell us we're crazy. But gently let us know what is actually *real*. Its for our health. Moments of clarity can make all the difference for certain delusions.
Past the DNI, there really isn't anything else I need to make clear ASAP. So I'll leave that to my carrd!.
Tumblrinas... im bad at tumblr (good?) i made the research post a reblog of the original post.. or maybe the original reach was what god intended. I can't hear god so im reposting it anyway
What's interesting about Bat Child, is that she has her toes dipped in a lot of peoples water trait-wise, so lets break it down by her stats (as of the D20 and V:TM wikis)
Foreword:
THE ADVENTURING PARTY OF 6/18/26 IS BEING DISREGARDED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE.
I'm ruling out Tzimisce, Tremere, Salubri, Ravnos, Toreador (because of her unknown sire, and physical features. Her archetype fits Outcast + Obsession compulsion very closely), Lasombra, Malkavian, The Ministry, and Ventrue preemptively. Giving Hecata a chance to make it's case even though she can feed normally.
Folkloric Block: Innate fear upon sight or contact, requires a roll to resist Frenzy.
Folkloric Bane: Immediate Aggravated Damage in the presence of, upon contact, or sight.
Predator Type: Bagger - Compatible w/ Iron Gullet, Clans who align with this feeding style are Gangrel + Hecata. Hecata cant feed without damaging the individual so this is reasonable (up to a point), Gangrel are also wandering survivalists who often do scavenge, Gangrel gets extra points in this scenario because she could have been a farmer (animal only) predator type AND because of her stint in the cave
Merits (Advantages)
Influence (Level 1) - Gotten in game. (Assisted acquisition with Zealotry or Willpower)
Iron Gullet (Level 3) - hand in hand with Bagger predators ! Really the same point from above
Linguistics (Level 1) - Points against Gangrel for their Compulsion - Feral Impulses (reduces their speech to one word sentences, -3 dice to manipulation [social stats not being great anyway get points for this clan, but very few] and intelligence rolls). Points to scholarly clans - Banu Haqim (stoked to see them make an appearance - idk if a vamp at any point had any of her blood), and Nosferatu (I'm counting the hacker and informant description as a scholarly inclined clan!)
Custodian of History: Zoology (Level 1) - FUCK YOU GUMBAROO SHE HOPPED ON REDDIT AND LEARNED HOW TO KICK YOUR ASS. Points to Nosferatu for tech and investigation and Points to Gangrel for specificity in Zoology
(Library scene is in favor of giving into hind brain desires rather than perfectionism, which is a Tremere Compulsion. Preexisting bias is being acknowledged, and promptly disregarded! A shapeshifting Gangrel sire would absolutely fuck with Vespers bond with animals and the way they live even BEFORE she was turned. Her knowledge makes her seem very capable as a survivor [she was knee. deep. in the guano] plus her attitude is very much so action and accomplishment focused instead of keeping up appearances.)
Machine Shop (Level 1) - useful in terms of showing her intelligence (scholarly inclined clans!) and plenty of them are for stealthling or disguise (aka primarily for comic book duo shenanigans). I'll rule that Nosferatu wins over Banu Haqim here. If only because of the creation of tools is tech based, despite BC being a hero. (Yes I will take away Gangrels points :[. Coding and tinkering severely interrupts the crime fighting schedule even if it helps the hunt. MAYBE. If she had Check the Trunk she could keep these.)
Ingénue (Level 1) - truly her only social advantage 😭 even if i gave in and let Outcast Toreador play, it wouldn't win this one. Surprisingly... it would go to Nosferatu! Looking innocent is how you get out of trouble, into places that should be difficult, and information out of people. All core aspects sires of this clan look out for.
🦇 - No Looks related Merits! No points to or against anybody
Flaws (Active Disruptions)
🦇 - No Looks related Flaws! Points against Nosferatu and Half points from Gangrel in the argument of Animalistic Features.
Folkloric Block - Bells: Obviously due to her bat ears. Point towards Gangrel for animal features (Gangrel can take on animalistic traits, usually as a result of frenzy, but they can also just look like that.) Also a point for Nosferatu for disfiguration.
Enemy (Level 1) - YOU KNOW HER! YOU LOVE HER! MADELEINE TRIED TO RUIN HER MARRIAGE AND FAILED MISERABLY!! IT'S - ‼️NANCY DANDERHOOF‼️ She should a Contact by now. "She has a history/she ran them out of town" blah blah. Nancy explicitly stated a neutral self serving perspective, but still extended grace to the coterie. She uses them to get publishing material, and they use her to distribute information strategically. It's mutualism (‼️) *badum tss...* Massive Nosferatu points for having a history with and maintaining a network with a future pulitzer winner! (Half points for Banu Haqim since they've only ever gave her targets for exposé pieces on big bads, and BC's sidekick position means taking down evil)
Knowledge Hungry: Zoology (Level 1) - (The fact that this Flaw is right next to the Check the Trunk Merit is INSANE. Especially considering she has a Machine Shop and a Nosferatu bff who HAS Check the Trunk. Points AWAY from Nosferatu from being unprepared in general.) Despite this being a willpower role, it deals in intelligence... Zoology will give Gangrel back half the point it lost here (points about preexisting bias, check Custodian of History: Zoology) points to both Banu Haqim and Gangrel (0.5 pts).
Discipline Flaws - A Discipline check fails by a certain amount
Oblivion: Monsterous - Literally fucks up ur social everything (Blush of Life, Social Dice Pools, physical appearance) Blatant Hecata flaw. (We know who else gets Monsterous points... +2)
Potence: Killer Instinct - Fury Frenzy after failing to rouse to use a Potence power. Gangrel and the name Killer Instinct = PB and J
Fortitude: Scar Tissue - leaves evidence of an injuries for a day after they occurred.
Statistic Breakdown! (In my weird point metric):
Nosferatu: 7
Banu Haqim: 2.5
Hecata: 4
Brujah: 1
Gengral: 4.5
Bat Childs Personality in alignment to each of these 4 clans:
I'll say my piece here and definitely recommend anyone with alternate takes leave theirs!
Bat Child isn't as blatantly morbid as the Hecata are stated to be. She can commune with the unseen, spirits, and summon powers of the Abyss, but she hasn't shown any inclination towards necromancy or altering the state of somethings life out of impulse. Hecata discipline rules are just a little bit lost on me, so please let me know if I missed anything!
With as many points as I gave to Nosferatu, I don't believe that she's the prime candidate for a Nosferatu sire. Canonically she only became justice oriented after meeting Darkness Man, and while I imagine stealing catalytic converters from cars requires stealth and machine skills, it wasn't her first instinct.
Brujah vampires are naturally rebellious and contrarian. They're activists. Banu Haqim vampires have a strong sense of justice and are known as mediators and punishers of wrongdoing. Vesper is definitely someone with a sense of justice and she's also rebellious, not just against the Camarilla, who she has no personal allegiance to and doesn't agree with when it comes to Purpee, but as well as against Darkness Man in the episode where she went with Zaeth and left him outside Sweetie Pies. These two clans are about decimals off of eachother on the scale of comparison when it comes to her, because she's had her moments of being lost much like the other Brujah in their coterie, but she's also a lot more level headed and academically inclined.
Gengral. The clan I've had my eye on since she denied Nosferatu (before I realized she was in denial about her vampirism). Her first instinct after being turned was to GO BE A BAT. She thought she WAS a bat, instead of grotesque disfiguration, she had a distinctly animalistic one that didn't affect her looks stats, and her knowledge hungry flaw made her zero-in on the books like prey 😭 safe to say I have a favorite headcanon.
All in all, this is just the most likely clans Bat Child could belong to and quantified reasons why, nothing concrete!
Tumblrinas... im bad at tumblr (good?) i made the research post a reblog of the original post.. or maybe the original reach was what god intended. I can't hear god so im reposting it anyway
What's interesting about Bat Child, is that she has her toes dipped in a lot of peoples water trait-wise, so lets break it down by her stats (as of the D20 and V:TM wikis)
Foreword:
THE ADVENTURING PARTY OF 6/18/26 IS BEING DISREGARDED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE.
I'm ruling out Tzimisce, Tremere, Salubri, Ravnos, Toreador (because of her unknown sire, and physical features. Her archetype fits Outcast + Obsession compulsion very closely), Lasombra, Malkavian, The Ministry, and Ventrue preemptively. Giving Hecata a chance to make it's case even though she can feed normally.
Folkloric Block: Innate fear upon sight or contact, requires a roll to resist Frenzy.
Folkloric Bane: Immediate Aggravated Damage in the presence of, upon contact, or sight.
Predator Type: Bagger - Compatible w/ Iron Gullet, Clans who align with this feeding style are Gangrel + Hecata. Hecata cant feed without damaging the individual so this is reasonable (up to a point), Gangrel are also wandering survivalists who often do scavenge, Gangrel gets extra points in this scenario because she could have been a farmer (animal only) predator type AND because of her stint in the cave
Merits (Advantages)
Influence (Level 1) - Gotten in game. (Assisted acquisition with Zealotry or Willpower)
Iron Gullet (Level 3) - hand in hand with Bagger predators ! Really the same point from above
Linguistics (Level 1) - Points against Gangrel for their Compulsion - Feral Impulses (reduces their speech to one word sentences, -3 dice to manipulation [social stats not being great anyway get points for this clan, but very few] and intelligence rolls). Points to scholarly clans - Banu Haqim (stoked to see them make an appearance - idk if a vamp at any point had any of her blood), and Nosferatu (I'm counting the hacker and informant description as a scholarly inclined clan!)
Custodian of History: Zoology (Level 1) - FUCK YOU GUMBAROO SHE HOPPED ON REDDIT AND LEARNED HOW TO KICK YOUR ASS. Points to Nosferatu for tech and investigation and Points to Gangrel for specificity in Zoology
(Library scene is in favor of giving into hind brain desires rather than perfectionism, which is a Tremere Compulsion. Preexisting bias is being acknowledged, and promptly disregarded! A shapeshifting Gangrel sire would absolutely fuck with Vespers bond with animals and the way they live even BEFORE she was turned. Her knowledge makes her seem very capable as a survivor [she was knee. deep. in the guano] plus her attitude is very much so action and accomplishment focused instead of keeping up appearances.)
Machine Shop (Level 1) - useful in terms of showing her intelligence (scholarly inclined clans!) and plenty of them are for stealthling or disguise (aka primarily for comic book duo shenanigans). I'll rule that Nosferatu wins over Banu Haqim here. If only because of the creation of tools is tech based, despite BC being a hero. (Yes I will take away Gangrels points :[. Coding and tinkering severely interrupts the crime fighting schedule even if it helps the hunt. MAYBE. If she had Check the Trunk she could keep these.)
Ingénue (Level 1) - truly her only social advantage 😭 even if i gave in and let Outcast Toreador play, it wouldn't win this one. Surprisingly... it would go to Nosferatu! Looking innocent is how you get out of trouble, into places that should be difficult, and information out of people. All core aspects sires of this clan look out for.
🦇 - No Looks related Merits! No points to or against anybody
Flaws (Active Disruptions)
🦇 - No Looks related Flaws! Points against Nosferatu and Half points from Gangrel in the argument of Animalistic Features.
Folkloric Block - Bells: Obviously due to her bat ears. Point towards Gangrel for animal features (Gangrel can take on animalistic traits, usually as a result of frenzy, but they can also just look like that.) Also a point for Nosferatu for disfiguration.
Enemy (Level 1) - YOU KNOW HER! YOU LOVE HER! MADELEINE TRIED TO RUIN HER MARRIAGE AND FAILED MISERABLY!! IT'S - ‼️NANCY DANDERHOOF‼️ She should a Contact by now. "She has a history/she ran them out of town" blah blah. Nancy explicitly stated a neutral self serving perspective, but still extended grace to the coterie. She uses them to get publishing material, and they use her to distribute information strategically. It's mutualism (‼️) *badum tss...* Massive Nosferatu points for having a history with and maintaining a network with a future pulitzer winner! (Half points for Banu Haqim since they've only ever gave her targets for exposé pieces on big bads, and BC's sidekick position means taking down evil)
Knowledge Hungry: Zoology (Level 1) - (The fact that this Flaw is right next to the Check the Trunk Merit is INSANE. Especially considering she has a Machine Shop and a Nosferatu bff who HAS Check the Trunk. Points AWAY from Nosferatu from being unprepared in general.) Despite this being a willpower role, it deals in intelligence... Zoology will give Gangrel back half the point it lost here (points about preexisting bias, check Custodian of History: Zoology) points to both Banu Haqim and Gangrel (0.5 pts).
Discipline Flaws - A Discipline check fails by a certain amount
Oblivion: Monsterous - Literally fucks up ur social everything (Blush of Life, Social Dice Pools, physical appearance) Blatant Hecata flaw. (We know who else gets Monsterous points... +2)
Potence: Killer Instinct - Fury Frenzy after failing to rouse to use a Potence power. Gangrel and the name Killer Instinct = PB and J
Fortitude: Scar Tissue - leaves evidence of an injuries for a day after they occurred.
Statistic Breakdown! (In my weird point metric):
Nosferatu: 7
Banu Haqim: 2.5
Hecata: 4
Brujah: 1
Gengral: 4.5
Bat Childs Personality in alignment to each of these 4 clans:
I'll say my piece here and definitely recommend anyone with alternate takes leave theirs!
Bat Child isn't as blatantly morbid as the Hecata are stated to be. She can commune with the unseen, spirits, and summon powers of the Abyss, but she hasn't shown any inclination towards necromancy or altering the state of somethings life out of impulse. Hecata discipline rules are just a little bit lost on me, so please let me know if I missed anything!
With as many points as I gave to Nosferatu, I don't believe that she's the prime candidate for a Nosferatu sire. Canonically she only became justice oriented after meeting Darkness Man, and while I imagine stealing catalytic converters from cars requires stealth and machine skills, it wasn't her first instinct.
Brujah vampires are naturally rebellious and contrarian. They're activists. Banu Haqim vampires have a strong sense of justice and are known as mediators and punishers of wrongdoing. Vesper is definitely someone with a sense of justice and she's also rebellious, not just against the Camarilla, who she has no personal allegiance to and doesn't agree with when it comes to Purpee, but as well as against Darkness Man in the episode where she went with Zaeth and left him outside Sweetie Pies. These two clans are about decimals off of eachother on the scale of comparison when it comes to her, because she's had her moments of being lost much like the other Brujah in their coterie, but she's also a lot more level headed and academically inclined.
Gengral. The clan I've had my eye on since she denied Nosferatu (before I realized she was in denial about her vampirism). Her first instinct after being turned was to GO BE A BAT. She thought she WAS a bat, instead of grotesque disfiguration, she had a distinctly animalistic one that didn't affect her looks stats, and her knowledge hungry flaw made her zero-in on the books like prey 😭 safe to say I have a favorite headcanon.
All in all, this is just the most likely clans Bat Child could belong to and quantified reasons why, nothing concrete!
Tumblrinas... im bad at tumblr (good?) i made the research post a reblog of the original post.. or maybe the original reach was what god intended. I can't hear god so im reposting it anyway
What's interesting about Bat Child, is that she has her toes dipped in a lot of peoples water trait-wise, so lets break it down by her stats (as of the D20 and V:TM wikis)
Foreword:
THE ADVENTURING PARTY OF 6/18/26 IS BEING DISREGARDED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE.
I'm ruling out Tzimisce, Tremere, Salubri, Ravnos, Toreador (because of her unknown sire, and physical features. Her archetype fits Outcast + Obsession compulsion very closely), Lasombra, Malkavian, The Ministry, and Ventrue preemptively. Giving Hecata a chance to make it's case even though she can feed normally.
Folkloric Block: Innate fear upon sight or contact, requires a roll to resist Frenzy.
Folkloric Bane: Immediate Aggravated Damage in the presence of, upon contact, or sight.
Predator Type: Bagger - Compatible w/ Iron Gullet, Clans who align with this feeding style are Gangrel + Hecata. Hecata cant feed without damaging the individual so this is reasonable (up to a point), Gangrel are also wandering survivalists who often do scavenge, Gangrel gets extra points in this scenario because she could have been a farmer (animal only) predator type AND because of her stint in the cave
Merits (Advantages)
Influence (Level 1) - Gotten in game. (Assisted acquisition with Zealotry or Willpower)
Iron Gullet (Level 3) - hand in hand with Bagger predators ! Really the same point from above
Linguistics (Level 1) - Points against Gangrel for their Compulsion - Feral Impulses (reduces their speech to one word sentences, -3 dice to manipulation [social stats not being great anyway get points for this clan, but very few] and intelligence rolls). Points to scholarly clans - Banu Haqim (stoked to see them make an appearance - idk if a vamp at any point had any of her blood), and Nosferatu (I'm counting the hacker and informant description as a scholarly inclined clan!)
Custodian of History: Zoology (Level 1) - FUCK YOU GUMBAROO SHE HOPPED ON REDDIT AND LEARNED HOW TO KICK YOUR ASS. Points to Nosferatu for tech and investigation and Points to Gangrel for specificity in Zoology
(Library scene is in favor of giving into hind brain desires rather than perfectionism, which is a Tremere Compulsion. Preexisting bias is being acknowledged, and promptly disregarded! A shapeshifting Gangrel sire would absolutely fuck with Vespers bond with animals and the way they live even BEFORE she was turned. Her knowledge makes her seem very capable as a survivor [she was knee. deep. in the guano] plus her attitude is very much so action and accomplishment focused instead of keeping up appearances.)
Machine Shop (Level 1) - useful in terms of showing her intelligence (scholarly inclined clans!) and plenty of them are for stealthling or disguise (aka primarily for comic book duo shenanigans). I'll rule that Nosferatu wins over Banu Haqim here. If only because of the creation of tools is tech based, despite BC being a hero. (Yes I will take away Gangrels points :[. Coding and tinkering severely interrupts the crime fighting schedule even if it helps the hunt. MAYBE. If she had Check the Trunk she could keep these.)
Ingénue (Level 1) - truly her only social advantage 😭 even if i gave in and let Outcast Toreador play, it wouldn't win this one. Surprisingly... it would go to Nosferatu! Looking innocent is how you get out of trouble, into places that should be difficult, and information out of people. All core aspects sires of this clan look out for.
🦇 - No Looks related Merits! No points to or against anybody
Flaws (Active Disruptions)
🦇 - No Looks related Flaws! Points against Nosferatu and Half points from Gangrel in the argument of Animalistic Features.
Folkloric Block - Bells: Obviously due to her bat ears. Point towards Gangrel for animal features (Gangrel can take on animalistic traits, usually as a result of frenzy, but they can also just look like that.) Also a point for Nosferatu for disfiguration.
Enemy (Level 1) - YOU KNOW HER! YOU LOVE HER! MADELEINE TRIED TO RUIN HER MARRIAGE AND FAILED MISERABLY!! IT'S - ‼️NANCY DANDERHOOF‼️ She should a Contact by now. "She has a history/she ran them out of town" blah blah. Nancy explicitly stated a neutral self serving perspective, but still extended grace to the coterie. She uses them to get publishing material, and they use her to distribute information strategically. It's mutualism (‼️) *badum tss...* Massive Nosferatu points for having a history with and maintaining a network with a future pulitzer winner! (Half points for Banu Haqim since they've only ever gave her targets for exposé pieces on big bads, and BC's sidekick position means taking down evil)
Knowledge Hungry: Zoology (Level 1) - (The fact that this Flaw is right next to the Check the Trunk Merit is INSANE. Especially considering she has a Machine Shop and a Nosferatu bff who HAS Check the Trunk. Points AWAY from Nosferatu from being unprepared in general.) Despite this being a willpower role, it deals in intelligence... Zoology will give Gangrel back half the point it lost here (points about preexisting bias, check Custodian of History: Zoology) points to both Banu Haqim and Gangrel (0.5 pts).
Discipline Flaws - A Discipline check fails by a certain amount
Oblivion: Monsterous - Literally fucks up ur social everything (Blush of Life, Social Dice Pools, physical appearance) Blatant Hecata flaw. (We know who else gets Monsterous points... +2)
Potence: Killer Instinct - Fury Frenzy after failing to rouse to use a Potence power. Gangrel and the name Killer Instinct = PB and J
Fortitude: Scar Tissue - leaves evidence of an injuries for a day after they occurred.
Statistic Breakdown! (In my weird point metric):
Nosferatu: 7
Banu Haqim: 2.5
Hecata: 4
Brujah: 1
Gengral: 4.5
Bat Childs Personality in alignment to each of these 4 clans:
I'll say my piece here and definitely recommend anyone with alternate takes leave theirs!
Bat Child isn't as blatantly morbid as the Hecata are stated to be. She can commune with the unseen, spirits, and summon powers of the Abyss, but she hasn't shown any inclination towards necromancy or altering the state of somethings life out of impulse. Hecata discipline rules are just a little bit lost on me, so please let me know if I missed anything!
With as many points as I gave to Nosferatu, I don't believe that she's the prime candidate for a Nosferatu sire. Canonically she only became justice oriented after meeting Darkness Man, and while I imagine stealing catalytic converters from cars requires stealth and machine skills, it wasn't her first instinct.
Brujah vampires are naturally rebellious and contrarian. They're activists. Banu Haqim vampires have a strong sense of justice and are known as mediators and punishers of wrongdoing. Vesper is definitely someone with a sense of justice and she's also rebellious, not just against the Camarilla, who she has no personal allegiance to and doesn't agree with when it comes to Purpee, but as well as against Darkness Man in the episode where she went with Zaeth and left him outside Sweetie Pies. These two clans are about decimals off of eachother on the scale of comparison when it comes to her, because she's had her moments of being lost much like the other Brujah in their coterie, but she's also a lot more level headed and academically inclined.
Gengral. The clan I've had my eye on since she denied Nosferatu (before I realized she was in denial about her vampirism). Her first instinct after being turned was to GO BE A BAT. She thought she WAS a bat, instead of grotesque disfiguration, she had a distinctly animalistic one that didn't affect her looks stats, and her knowledge hungry flaw made her zero-in on the books like prey 😭 safe to say I have a favorite headcanon.
All in all, this is just the most likely clans Bat Child could belong to and quantified reasons why, nothing concrete!
imagine you're tyler morimoto making a midnight run for a thousand candles for your boss who cannot decide if he wants scented or unscented and then he starts sexting you. he's so strong.
In every episode after Zaeth got his ass kicked by a pool, watching HJ and LaVaonte interact is like being in the perspective of a child of divorce WHILE the couple is actively falling out of love
everyone who is saying LaVonte and H.J. are married to each other is wrong. The two of them are actually both married to the grind. The difference between them is that LaVonte loves this arrangement and H.J. wishes he was married to LaVonte instead.
Fellas, is it gay to gaze lovingly at a basil plant your Dual Income Male Partner (DIMP) bought for you as a gift from a witch at a local food co-op and placed in your coffin as a romantic gesture?
Every major player in this campaign being a massive fan of this small time columnist from a distant small town weekly Schlock magazine is the funniest thing dimension 20s done in my personal opinion
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