koma

22 she/her

[komatosbutch]

komatøs -- koma

22, Intersex Cis Woman, POC Butch Lesbian

The flag you see me post is my very own custom butch lesbian one, the "evil butch lesbian flag". Anti mspec-lesbain and anti contradictory labels.

I will not filter or censor my opinions on lesbian topics, I am very outspoken about my stance on things. Conversations and debates welcomed!

However I do not cater to or want to interact with : Racists, Homophobes, Transphobes, Sexists/Misogynist/Misandrist, Zoos, Pedos, Proship/Profic, RadQueers, Endogenic 'Systems', Mspec-Lesbians, Contradictory Labels, Dykebreakers, TransIDs, Self-Diagnosers, Anti-Recovery/Anti-Reality Checkers

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A Guide to Women and Nonbinary Love The Wall Of Shame!

A lesbian is a woman who is sexually and romantically attracted only to other women. En lesbisk er en kvinne som utelukkende er seksuelt og romantisk tiltrukket av kvinner. レズビアンとは、女性に対してのみ性的、ロマンチックな惹かれを感じる女性のことです。

[komatosbutch]

I’ve seen someone create CIS lesboys/turigirls. I would relatively tolerate lesboys and turigirls if they were trans, but if they’re CIS, they’re just STRAIGHT.

And people claim "that isn't happening!".....

I don't like it when trans men also claim to be lesbians though, as they are men.

It's like people are scared to be straight cause it won't make them special.

[non--anything]

The irony of tagging this as intersex.

[komatosbutch]

I am intersex...

[non--anything]

That makes this worse!

[baseddykeatron]

Intersex phobia? 🤨

[non--anything]

Lmao no i’m also intersex, but OP clearly has no issue disregarding the ways in which intersex men could be lesbians and the unique ways intersex people experience gender, even cis intersex men

[komatosbutch]

Being intersex doesn't make you a certain gender. It does not matter whether you are intersex or not, if you wholly identify as a man, cis or trans, then you're not a lesbian.

[non--anything]

Do all exclusionists just lack basic reading comprehension? Does the concept of nuance instead of generalising and bad faith interpretation elude you?

[komatosbutch]

There is no nuance to definitions of labels. It either is or it isn't.

[non--anything]

Right because queer identity has always been about strictly defined boxes everyone must fit in and that has always worked out

[komatosbutch]

You can take screenshots of a multitude of things that seemingly fit your narrative but anyone of any side can do that about anything.

The biggest issue here is the equation of lesbians and bisexuals and the inclusion of strictly men identifying people in lesbianism.

I don't think I even have to bring up the drag king thing you're showing here as proof but it is quite literally about them not wanting to be a man and just dressing up in drag. I have done drag myself and while in drag, yes, you play the role as a man. Even in that writing they say that drag kings are literally doing it "as an act". This isn't a hard concept to grasp.

There is also a great deal of history when it comes to lesbians presenting as men to avoid discrimination for being attracted to women. Many butches pretended to be men for job opportunities, to be respected, and to protect themselves from violence.

And whatever article you chose for the FTM lesbian thing, in it it quite literally states there is a difference between a butch and a FTM, citing it as "gray area between lesbian and FTM" and "the difference between being stone and being transexual".

On "Bisexual Lesbians":

There is a fundamental difference between the lesbian and the bisexual experience.

Bisexual women being labeled as lesbians was a huge thing and was frankly discriminatory towards bisexual women. Any woman who felt love for another woman was labeled a dyke, queer, lesbian, etc. despite their identity as discrimination and as an insult to alienate people from the heteronormative. People heavily denied bisexuals and came up with excuses like "you're just confused" or "you need to pick a side" from both straight and homosexual people.

Bisexual women have literally faced severe erasure and exclusion because they are attracted to more than one gender. Lesbians have stigmatized bisexual women in the 1960s to the early 1990s for "retaining to male privilege". Many lesbians in women's liberation groups in the 1970s saw bisexual women as betraying the movement since they were attracted to men. Bisexuals have an especially unique experience because they face double discrimination. They experienced biphobia from both the heterosexual and homosexual communities, and were excluded from most queer spaces.

Not to mention John Hopkins once published an article about the resource issue they have in health care for bisexual women, having much higher rates of health care barriers and even domestic violence compared to lesbian and straight women.

By equating bisexuals to lesbians also disregards the reality of exclusive same sex attraction that lesbians have. It has been used in the past to fuel misogynistic beliefs that lesbians chose to be the way they are and can be "fixed" or "converted" by men.

You are actively ignoring the unique history behind bisexual women alone by equating their experience to lesbians, just as you are doing the same to lesbians by equating them to bisexuals. They are unique sexual identities and invalidates both sides, fueling biphobia and lesbiphobia.

They are both queer, they are both attracted to women, they both deserve to belong in general queer spaces, but they do not deserve to be labeled as the same thing.

I'm going to stop yapping now cause if I keep going I'm not gonna be finished for a long time.

[komatosbutch]

Your posts are 90% of the time irrelevant to being intersex, there’s enough spam in the tag anyway we don’t need your exclusionary ahistorical bullshit especially from someone who defends the use of the DSD acronym 🤢

Okay but still you're telling me that I shouldn't be using the intersex tag as an intersex person just because you disagree with what I have to say and don't like me.

You do realize that developmental sex differences as an acronym literally defines intersex right?

Anyway I'll continue to use the intersex tag whenever I want to because I have the right to speak about being intersex and things relating to such, and also have the right to use it in my tags as an intersex person.

I sure as shit have a lot of problems with the stuff you people have to say online but you don't see me sending death threats, telling people to delete their posts and their blog, telling people they're not a woman, and that they don't belong in a space or community they are a part of. And that's only scratching the surface of things I've been told by people who disagree with me!

[komatosbutch]

I’ve seen someone create CIS lesboys/turigirls. I would relatively tolerate lesboys and turigirls if they were trans, but if they’re CIS, they’re just STRAIGHT.

And people claim "that isn't happening!".....

I don't like it when trans men also claim to be lesbians though, as they are men.

It's like people are scared to be straight cause it won't make them special.

[non--anything]

The irony of tagging this as intersex.

[komatosbutch]

I am intersex...

[non--anything]

That makes this worse!

[baseddykeatron]

Intersex phobia? 🤨

[non--anything]

Lmao no i’m also intersex, but OP clearly has no issue disregarding the ways in which intersex men could be lesbians and the unique ways intersex people experience gender, even cis intersex men

[komatosbutch]

Being intersex doesn't make you a certain gender. It does not matter whether you are intersex or not, if you wholly identify as a man, cis or trans, then you're not a lesbian.

[non--anything]

Do all exclusionists just lack basic reading comprehension? Does the concept of nuance instead of generalising and bad faith interpretation elude you?

[komatosbutch]

There is no nuance to definitions of labels. It either is or it isn't.

[komatosbutch]

Isn't gender a social construct and not even real. What the fuck does it matter how people identify on something that isn't real

Wouldn't that be gender essentialism

People who want to abolish gender are idiots, I'm gonna be honest. We have been referred to and differentiated as man and women since the 13th fucking century lol, this isn't a new concept. That is over 820 years ago.

Not to mention, by trying to rid of gender entirely you are literally erasing and belittling transgender people by saying "well your transition and gender identity and dysphoria don't actually mean anything because gender is made up".

Also most people are generally proud of their gender, I am very much proud to be a woman! Have you completely forgotten the fight for women's rights in the past? How important that was? Oh but that doesn't matter because women aren't actually a thing so lets forget the history behind them.

I am beyond annoyed whenever someone tries to tell me that I'm not a woman because it doesn't actually exist, especially as an intersex butch woman who is also a child detransitioner. I have been told time and time again that I am not a woman whether it be because I'm a butch, masculine, intersex, or because I once identified as a man and went through with transition as a child.

I have been put down, devalued, and unaccepted by people around me for these things and I will not let anyone tell me I am anything other than a woman.

Don't force your erasure onto people.

[baseddykeatron]

TRUE Gender abolishment = Advocating that there is no pressure to conform to a binary role or a "gender role". In fact, as someone who reads so many books on this topic, it is actually anti-trans/gender ideology leaning, not pro-trans. Google the term where it's primarily used.

I do believe that gender roles are put into society, and eventually, they manifest as true, that is called social conditioning. Though it is not necessarily a bad thing altogether. It is only important to teach that there are outliers. Does it fall under an ideology? Yes. Is it a construct? Not really, because there is no greater value like money, time, and laws. As well as something to be a contruct, it has to have some deconstruction. There's just not. Pink used to be called a manly color. It just changes with time. There's no specific reason. So, you make it into a construct while simultaneously wanting to deconstruct it.

[komatosbutch]

PREACH!!!

[komatosbutch]

Isn't gender a social construct and not even real. What the fuck does it matter how people identify on something that isn't real

Wouldn't that be gender essentialism

People who want to abolish gender are idiots, I'm gonna be honest. We have been referred to and differentiated as man and women since the 13th fucking century lol, this isn't a new concept. That is over 820 years ago.

Not to mention, by trying to rid of gender entirely you are literally erasing and belittling transgender people by saying "well your transition and gender identity and dysphoria don't actually mean anything because gender is made up".

Also most people are generally proud of their gender, I am very much proud to be a woman! Have you completely forgotten the fight for women's rights in the past? How important that was? Oh but that doesn't matter because women aren't actually a thing so lets forget the history behind them.

I am beyond annoyed whenever someone tries to tell me that I'm not a woman because it doesn't actually exist, especially as an intersex butch woman who is also a child detransitioner. I have been told time and time again that I am not a woman whether it be because I'm a butch, masculine, intersex, or because I once identified as a man and went through with transition as a child.

I have been put down, devalued, and unaccepted by people around me for these things and I will not let anyone tell me I am anything other than a woman.

Don't force your erasure onto people.

[komatosbutch]

Maybe people in those tags don't wanna see your divisive politics

Sooooo what you're saying is as an intersex person I shouldn't be allowed to use the intersex tag because you don't like me... Weird...

[komatosbutch]

I’ve seen someone create CIS lesboys/turigirls. I would relatively tolerate lesboys and turigirls if they were trans, but if they’re CIS, they’re just STRAIGHT.

And people claim "that isn't happening!".....

I don't like it when trans men also claim to be lesbians though, as they are men.

It's like people are scared to be straight cause it won't make them special.

[non--anything]

The irony of tagging this as intersex.

[komatosbutch]

I am intersex...

[non--anything]

That makes this worse!

[baseddykeatron]

Intersex phobia? 🤨

[non--anything]

Lmao no i’m also intersex, but OP clearly has no issue disregarding the ways in which intersex men could be lesbians and the unique ways intersex people experience gender, even cis intersex men

[komatosbutch]

Being intersex doesn't make you a certain gender. It does not matter whether you are intersex or not, if you wholly identify as a man, cis or trans, then you're not a lesbian.

[komatosbutch]

Why is there like no butch4butch media? Where's my representation?

[miss-bl4nche]

if you call yourself a man, you CANNOT be a lesbian. #truthnuke

[d33rinlace]

i think lesboys and turigirls are stupid. labels exist for a reason, you cant force everyone to call you something if you're not even using it correctly. lesbian means woman loving woman, so men aren't included. it just seems like what-about-meism

[komatosbutch]

as a butch, thanks for calling out other ppls adoration of stone butch blues. you shouldn’t have to read a book to understand your identity

Of course! You're welcome :)

I really hate that Stone Butch Blues has become like a twisted guide book to people and they praise it as some sort of holy thing.

Honestly, I hated that book. Not that I think sexual and physical abuse shouldn't be addressed but for me personally, it was too much and was very triggering.

Also the main character literally just raped a woman and everyone overlooks that and defends her actions.

[komatosbutch]

as a fellow intersex person, i want to clarify the biological definition of intersex so that you don't accidentally spread misinformation about our community (this was prompted by your post about not wanting PCOS to be considered intersex) so first, many intersex people actually are pushing for PCOS to be solidified/ more widely recognised as an intersex condition-- not only because it meets the definition of intersex, but because also it would spread more awareness of the existence of intersex people and to help normalise it more second, here is the best way i can explain the biological definition of intersex: first, biological sex is a composite of 5 (five!!) separate components

external genitalia (the one people usually first think of)

internal genitalia (and people forget that these don't always align)

"sex chromosomes" (this is where i usually bring up Kleinfelter and Swyer syndromes)

hormone levels (this is why intersex people believe PCOS should be included!)

hormone expression (e.g. like where you grow hair if you have high testosterone)

sorry for all the text and no need to post this publicly-- i just wanted to let you know this!

This isn't about me "not wanting PCOS to be considered intersex", it is that is just isn't and shouldn't be.

There are 3 different types of Intersex that I'll just copy and paste here from the Hudson Institute of Medical Research:

46, XX intersex: Female chromosomes and ovaries but external genitals appear male. This can be caused by exposure to excess male hormones before birth.

46, XY intersex: Male chromosomes but external genitals are incompletely formed, ambiguous or female. Testes may be normal, malformed, or absent. May be caused by testosterone issues and other foetal development variations.

Sex chromosome intersex: Can involve a range of chromosomal variations that affect sex development. They don’t cause a discrepancy between internal and external genitalia but possible problems with sex hormone levels and overall sexual development.

Hormone imbalances and irregularities like PMOS aren't specifically caused by any of these. You can be intersex and happen to have PMOS as well, that's fairly common!

I appreciate your concern and your want to dispel misinformation, that is what I try to do as well.

There should definitely be more talk about abnormal hormones and more awareness about PMOS, I don't deny that, but it shouldn't be lumped together with intersex just because "they overlap" or "a lot of intersex people have PMOS". It isn't a defining feature.

If it were to come out that PMOS is caused by either 46 xx, 46 xy, or sex chromosome intersex, then I'll agree and eat my own words. I have no problem with admitting I am wrong if it were to ever come to that someday.

[komatosbutch]

I’ve seen someone create CIS lesboys/turigirls. I would relatively tolerate lesboys and turigirls if they were trans, but if they’re CIS, they’re just STRAIGHT.

And people claim "that isn't happening!".....

I don't like it when trans men also claim to be lesbians though, as they are men.

It's like people are scared to be straight cause it won't make them special.

[non--anything]

The irony of tagging this as intersex.

[komatosbutch]

I am intersex...

[non--anything]

That makes this worse!

[komatosbutch]

What exactly is your problem here though? What about me being intersex does this have to do with my post? And how does me being intersex make what I say worse?

[komatosbutch]

yo can you get tf out of the intersex tag? at least do that if you wont delete your whole blog

I am intersex...

[komatosbutch]

I’ve seen someone create CIS lesboys/turigirls. I would relatively tolerate lesboys and turigirls if they were trans, but if they’re CIS, they’re just STRAIGHT.

And people claim "that isn't happening!".....

I don't like it when trans men also claim to be lesbians though, as they are men.

It's like people are scared to be straight cause it won't make them special.

[non--anything]

The irony of tagging this as intersex.

[komatosbutch]

I am intersex...

[komatosbutch]

Hi!! may you explain why goodfaith terms are bad? I'm new to this and I wanna understand why they're bad Thank u!

"Good faith" labels strip all the history and meaning of the labels that they are appropriating.

That is the most simple way I could explain it without going on a rant 😅