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A thing I’d really really love to see in pd3 is an arc where William goes through an identity crisis . I mean, he only became a Real Wisperer after Clarence faded(???) into him (which is also soooo insane. It’s clearly not the same thing as with Kemuri, since William and Clarence have to share a soul for the whole reincarnation thing, but it’s clearly not as simple as just two peas in one pod), so is William really deserving of that? It took him hundreds of tries to beat Kemuri, he Lost the Wisps, he did such a good job at messing everything up that every spirit he spoke to during the training arc looked at him like he was nuts!! Alongside that, I think it would be super duper fascinating if William in s3 maybe struggled with a little bit of learnt helplessness. He tried to fight fate and be alive again, he got a new heart!!! He lost the damn wisps!!!!!!! It’s like everything he ever wanted didn’t matter. His old life doesn’t matter, his parents words of encouragement don’t matter, and nothing he does in regards to the spirit world seems to really matter Unless it’s him doing what’s expected of him!!!!!! I just think it would be very interesting if all of that did some damage….
Wiwi wisp stuff…………. Woaghh
One reason why I personally really love Dogbones is because you Really get the vibe that before UPP, neither Norah or William had any friends or company.
Isaac used to have a life back in the home he was forced to leave behind when his parents moved to Deadwood, and Lui, aside from how obsessed he is with the occult, is generally a likeable and sociable person. Even aside from that, he has his little siblings for company!! Norah is a single-child who is single-mindedly focused on school. Through Implication (UPP1.1 “Are we not friends?”) we can sorta read that Norah’s never had Friend friends, and William hasn’t had anyone actually understand him before finding his place in the group (UPP1.2 “I am. These are the first friends in a really, really long time that I've been able to be myself with,”)
There’s something sooo awesome about two lonely weirdly supernaturally sensitive kids [paraphrasing] (Lui to William: “You noticed something wrong, you always do,” // William to Norah: “You always seem to know first when things are about to go wrong,”) finding someone who, despite their Obvious differences, is Just Like You in every other way. And their parallel of see no evil/hear no evil with them too……. Like aside from the fact they’re just super duper cute together it’s soooooo interesting and fun to think about them . When it comes down to it their fates ended up being they they are based on their biggest difference - how they react to the monsters and horrors of deadwood. William is Afraid and Cowardly, sure, but he’s just too curious not to walk into the obvious Death trap . Yeah he’ll enter the house where two billion bugs Just Left . Yeah he’ll really think about going back to the church where the monster is at his most powerful because he Thinks he’s not there anymore . Yeah he’ll go down into the suspicious weird guys basement . The only time Norah shows this amount of recklessness is when William pushes her to it (UPP1.2, Norah going in alone to Mr Guerrero)…… woah….
Mild repeat post but I Still think it’s really understated by the fandom as a whole how much William loves the people around him. Like, so much so that even all of his platonic friendships Feel romantic. Everything with Vyncent is Incredibly obvious, but that Really doesn’t take away from the fact that William doesn’t just Exclusively focus his love on his blatant crush. He’s incredibly empathetic to the people he cares about, he falls in love Very Easily (my canon examples being Summer (a girl he saw in class Once) and Vyncent (a guy he met two months ago) and my non-canon but easy to see examples being Doug and Isaac. William even subconsciously shifts the way he speaks and acts to try and make someone he can tell is a quieter/shyer type of person more comfortable in high stress situations (Ashe and Norah).
BUT It’s also one of his biggest weaknesses. He loves A Lot and he’ll Do A Lot for the people he loves, to the point of hurting them. Think Grayscale: Yes, he does all of it because he deeply cares for his estranged older brother, but he also Hurts Tide because William doesn’t want to taint the view his father figure has of him. William hunts Cantrip and Xavier down not because he hates them or feels indifferent to them, he’s doing it in a weird, fucked up act of protection for Alan’s and everyone else’s involved safety.
William does what he does selfishly, but with so so much love. Mal uses it against him in s1, holding Tide’s life (a man William has known for Two Months) hostage, constantly trying to strike at PD’s bond, etc etc. William is at his strongest and most intense when he’s doing something out of a sense of care . But that also makes him very, very vulnerable to being betrayed and/or used (Doug in s1, David in Grayscale).
ALSO also, this is also relevant in UPP. William is at his most reckless whenever someone Else is endangered. When it’s just him, he’s Scared, obviously, but his plans and reactions are very clever and rational. He hides, he uses his surroundings to go unnoticed, he sneaks off the moment he has the chance to. But when it’s Someone Else, suddenly he’s yelling at monsters, attempting to smash glasses into people’s heads and practically Begging to be chased around. He stops thinking about how to get the horrors off his trail and starts thinking about how to get Everyone as Far Away from the danger as Soon as possible….
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IM SO SORRY I DIDNT SEE THIS EARLIER….. wipes a tear from my eye ……… thank yew……
Contemplating the idea of 12 year old William Wisp sneaking into the bathroom to try and do Emo eyeliner for the first time in his life at like. Midnight. And he fucks it up crazy bad and is panicking because it isn’t rubbing off . And accidentally makes a bunch of noise and wakes his mom up . And when she walks in he’s Genuinely Worried because well……. They’ve never really Talked about stuff like this . William knows his mom is very religious and cares a Lot about manners and politeness and is so so So worried about the worst possible scenario . But his mom just helps him wash off the make up and teaches him how to put it on right and when she looks at William and sees how worried he is , she tells him that she loves him as he is . This is real and true and canon to me . And also William cries and ruins the eyeliner his mom Just Helped Him Put On
Had a thought but I need everyone to walk with me here . I think it’s supppper interesting that William is the only one in PD who can be considered a “copy paste” version of other people. At least two, actually!!!!!
We don’t get much insight into Dakota’s parents personalities, but it’s obvious he’s very different from his aunt Alaska. Vyncent is Alike to his parents, but Far from identical. He’s much more of a follower than they are (considering his dad used to be the Leader of the Greats and his mom became the Leader of what was left during the Fauna arc). Ashe Might Be like his mom — but it’s never blatantly stated, and Ashe is also Alike to Mark (in their shared dry sense of humor) but, again, very much different!!!!
William is considered a mini version of Two characters in canon: his dad and Clarence. While I SADLY haven’t been able to find the rolled where they mention William’s dad having some sort of weird past, I think it’s very interesting to note that with That Additional Conext, William is a miniature version of two (?) morally gray men. We don’t know much of Clarence’s Deal, but the fact remains that the consequences of his actions was the state that the Spirit World is currently in. Mal even said Clarence Created The Chaos Zone, and that place is Definitely not a sanctuary for Any Soul!!!
Other characters (and their players lmao) always mention how alike William is to his dad. Without even that additional sprinkle of context, we’re constantly shown they’re both slightly pathetic oddballs, described as “wet noodles”. And while we the Audience don’t know much about Clarence, there sure is One Guy who knows a Shit Ton about him .
This whole post was born from the small exchange Will and him have in ep34, where Mallard says that he’s Suspected William was, in a past life, Clarence, for quite some time. That’s interesting to me for a lot of reason, but the main thing is that this isn’t Mal pulling some crazy spirit world power stuff out of his ass, it’s him just Noticing similarities that kept piling on top of one another until it stopped being a coincidence and became a theory that Mal Genuinely Considered.
I just think William being So Often Remarked as being similar to other characters (his dad And the guy he’s a reincarnation of (and actually maybe David a little, but not enough for this post specifically LOL)) and how it ties into his whole theme about self acceptance and identity.…
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PD Headcanon that Deltarune came out post William death … Headcanon that William and Norah used to have insanely serious debates about Undertale theories and Especially Gaster and Chara … Headcanon that they both cried when they finished DR chapter one and heard Don’t Forget for the first time … Headcanon that Norah covered it on her niche YouTube channel and it blew up because she played it so insanely sadly … Norah buys the Spamton plushie William buys the Tenna plushie … William really likes Noelle and Norah really likes Kris but don’t realize why for a really good while …. This is my truth #mytruth
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PD Headcanon that Deltarune came out post William death … Headcanon that William and Norah used to have insanely serious debates about Undertale theories and Especially Gaster and Chara … Headcanon that they both cried when they finished DR chapter one and heard Don’t Forget for the first time … Headcanon that Norah covered it on her niche YouTube channel and it blew up because she played it so insanely sadly … Norah buys the Spamton plushie William buys the Tenna plushie … William really likes Noelle and Norah really likes Kris but don’t realize why for a really good while …. This is my truth #mytruth
I'm definitely not the biggest ghostknifer out there but if i think about it as a weird mirror image to dogbones (will/norah) I start getting it Super Duper Bad. I'm one of the Many William Guys of tumblr but do not for a Second think i do not love Vyncent also ... Something soooo fun about Vyncent and Norah (despite feeling like very different people and being distinct characters etc etc) both finding a similar sort of guidance in William . Vyncent is from an entirely other world and Norah is a lonely, isolated goody two shoes, but William Still acts as a sort of catalyst for some of their most complicated feelings... Norah I'm Worth The Cost Song (dies dies dies di) and Vyncent with Grayscale . Rambling now but Grayscale arc William, to me , feels like the most UPP-like PD William ever gets. Because he's lacking the wisps or the guidance of Dakota, he acts desperately and out of fear . and theres something So Interesting of a Parallel (that i made up in my mind) of Vyncent leaving William to deal with Grayscale alone BUT later choosing to never ever leave him like that again VS William and Norah becoming friends, William dragging her into the horrors, and then leaving her behind in wanting to protect her . does this make sense
sorry i’m just scrolling down your blog and reblogging nearly everything 💀
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COMPLETELY OK!!!!!!!!! I love opening tumblr dot com and seeing a bajilion reblogs..... its good for the soul, like, mutually i think !!
I genuinely have no idea how I could ever look at PD without upp’s influence on it now. Sure we get a lot of context and details about Williams life pre-PD, but we also now always know that PD, to William, is like a second chance at being a friend.
With how self deprecating and hyperaware of his flaws he is in PD, I’m so so SO certain he thinks upp will be and are better off without him, one way or another. William may make fun of Dakota sometimes and purposefully mislead Vyncent to get a laugh, but he’s so much more of a Guide to both of them and a proper shoulder to lean on.
William stands up for Ashe against Mark (something he never did for Isaac), William takes care to gingerly approach traumatic situations his friends have experienced, tries his best to help soothe that ache for Dakota, even if he doesn’t do it quite right most of the time (something he never did for Norah) and William, despite his moments of jealousy and pettiness, never leaves anyone’s side whenever he can help it, and never forces anyone to go with him into danger: Vyncent in Grayscale. William never held it against him that he left, despite clearly being hurt and saddened about it. And in fact, when David was knocked out and Will was preparing to curse him, he offered Vyncent the option to Leave, not to burden himself with Williams mess (something he never did for any of his friends in upp).
Williams promise to PD in the s2 finale, once all is said and done, being “I promise to protect you” means so much to me with this in mind also . Throws up
Horrible cruel ironic reality where all of upp always feel a slight sense of dread whenever William starts leading them ahead only for it to be William who dies in the end . Worth the cost being a song all about how Norah isn’t sure of where they stand and what she means to Will, Isaac constantly getting into trouble with his parents because of Williams stupid shenanigans and Lui, who despite having been put in the least amount of danger By William, might have never gotten controlled by Mr Abraham if William hadn’t snuck off into that basement . All these fears and complicated feelings boiling between all of them and then one day William just disappears . And all these things they never spoke about are just . There. Forever. Because William is never coming back and they’ll never get the chance to sit down and actually talk . Dies
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Post based purely on my own headcanons but one lense I like to look at William and Cantrip through is gender envy. Cantrip, in some ways, is basically a cooler, better William. She’s just as witty and smart as he is, but doesn’t struggle with self esteem or having the charisma of a Wet Noodle. William Does canonically compare himself to her, and Does bluntly state that she makes him feel Really Insecure . So I don’t think it’s That Much of a stretch to imagine that he could also be mentally comparing himself to her in a Trans Way Too….