nolan’s odysseus is giving “sometimes your knight in shining armor is really just a loser in tinfoil”
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nolan’s odysseus is giving “sometimes your knight in shining armor is really just a loser in tinfoil”
please go read Emily Wilson’s review of the Odyssey 2026 because she reminds us that an Odysseus without his wits, his charm, his craftsmanship, and his discipline...is not Odysseus anymore, it’s just Matt Damon in a helmet
born to start in media res forced to progress ab ovo
Hello. I know you are a certified Nolan odyssey hater but mostly from a mythology perspective but my biggest gripe with the movie is the dialogue is this just a me thing or do you agree? (Please I feel like I’m losing my mind i expected the movie to be historically inaccurate but at least have good dialogue and nobody’s talking about it)
I totally agree! The dialogue was so weird, and my biggest issue was it became so weirdly meta in a way that really took me out of the story, and not in a fun edgy way. I think my personal opinion is that I don’t mind the modern language if it was good, I didn’t expect the movie to be in ancient Greek. But god, some of the lines were so…off? Like modern but not realistic for anyone in any time period to be saying.
and Odysseus saying “our age of bronze” was just……no
translating homeric greek and classical latin in dactylic hexameter is like its own little odyssey because by the time you're done 20 years have gone by and someone has taken your job and your wife
omg not me seeing your wife with a man who is haunting
the modern equivalent of the cyclops Polyphemus praying for help from Odysseus and being asked “who is hurting you?” and saying “nobody is hurting me” is like when you read a devastating fic and try to recommend it to someone else and they’re like “who wrote that fic that hurt you so bad” and you have to say some unhinged username like “SkrunklyLesbianPotatoFamine hurt me” like sure they did buddy, that’s not a real name
in honor of the 2026 Odyssey movie, here is one of my favorite posts
love it when people tell me "the r slur is okay again" uhm sharon no it isn't who told you that? a neurotypical person? yeah I thought so.
genuinely what is nt people's obsession with saying it. they'll be calling everything r-worded like:
their dogs
their exes
their hairline
their avocado that got too ripe in the fridge.
like I appreciate the creativity but guys I feel like there are OTHER WORDS right?? that we could use?? right?? just a thought??
love it when people tell me "the r slur is okay again" uhm sharon no it isn't who told you that? a neurotypical person? yeah I thought so.
having Odysseus not understand greek from the man whose village he raided even though he literally tells that man "we're greeks" is one of the craziest moments in the Odyssey like this isn't just whitewashing this is industrial strength bleach
I AM SO GLAD that people are talking about how the 2026 Odyssey movie is pushing Christian monotheistic standards on Ancient Greek polytheism that is objectively a completely different theological structure
(To preface I am not a Christian but I love learning about theology) no, “Zeus’s law” is not the same as something Christian god would decree. Zeus does not “love” humans the way that Christian god is described to love humans. “God”’s commandments are for the benefit of humans and so they love each other, Zeus’s “laws” are basically threats because we are not his children and he doesn’t even like his actual children.
you treat a Christian angel badly in disguise and they might smite you. you treat them well and they’ll reward you.
you treat a god in disguise well and they don’t kill you. you treat them badly and they kill you.
you don’t defy the gods, they are literally everywhere and everything. you don’t live under their rules because they have your best interests at heart, you live staying out of their way and making sacrifices and praying to them for your own safety because at the smallest slight, they will literally create plagues, wars, and whole seasons. Odysseus works with Athena but that is because he is the EXCEPTION not the RULE
in Christian scripture, being good and generous is rewarded. In classical mythology you literally don’t have any other choice but to make yourself useful because the gods didn’t care how many humans died in the titanomachy and they won’t care if they kill one more.
Zeus’s law isn’t a decree or a scripture, it’s a lesson you learn the hard way and you pass onto your children. But that’s also because Zeus’s law isn’t even REAL and Greek hospitality can’t be boiled down to one single aspect of their mythology and culture Mr Nolan I’m looking at you when I say this
EDIT: TL;DR is that anglicizing the concept of Xenia reduces it to essentially the most prominent western societal understanding of religion-based “deity in disguise” generosity, which comes from biblical values. My post is just defining the ways that those two instances of “gods in disguise” differ
(additionally) Christopher Nolan’s movie simplifies Xenia into being specifically godly, when it actually extends to a larger custom of political and generational alliances, which Emily Wilson’s translation discusses, but this movie doesn’t 🤗
did Starkid kiss the 2025-remount-not-your-seed-performance brick before they threw it?
why was Penelope, Helen, and Clytemnestra not wearing any kind of veil or face covering? they’re married women of high noble standing and they’re just out. hair out. no veil?
the entire Odyssey movie I was so confused about the whole Zeus’s law thing like why are we being hyper literal about a cultural custom by oversimplifying it to “oh they might be a god in disguise” (when the origins of Mediterranean hospitality have never been so literal as “I’ll treat you well because you’re maybe Athena”) and saying “well I can do this because Zeus’s law remember” when the entire nature of a long-standing cultural custom is the fact that it is unsaid and expected, not a verbal reminder or a threat
literally the first thing I said when I saw Calypso in the new Odyssey movie was “why is she so pale” bc in what world would I believe that this Hollywood-pale-porcelain-skinned woman has been living on a Mediterranean island for thousands of years
In honor of Mermaid Tales ending, here are my favorite autistic Aaron headcanons:
the whole ‘not wearing clothes thing’ bc why is Aaron always bitties out? SENSORY ISSUES. Case closed
his awkward monotone is literally just the neurodivergent cadence. he’s less verbal than other characters and hyper literal when he does talk. It makes sense!
TAIL WAGGING. Obviously all werewolves are hypersensitive to sounds because of their ears so they self regulate through tail wagging! It’s just stimming like flappy hands, spinning, etc but with a tail
Melissa might be autistic too! Which makes total sense with how she treated aphmau in Aphmau’s year because she was just like “weird coping mechanisms? Sure girl no judgement” and it’s just giving neurodivergent veteran wisdom honestly
tell me what else you think is explained through this headcanon! (Because so much of Aaron is overdone for his more ‘angsty bad boy’ love interest character, and it would totally be explained with a neurodivergent lens yk?)
each year convinces me more and more that Zendaya has a secret identical twin sister (clone? maybe) named Denzaya who pretends to be Zendaya to film multiple movies at once (poot lovato style) because I believe the pure divinity of The Zendaya cannot be kept in one singular human form, it must be kept in multiple vessels to contain the sheer majesty of power to execute Her Great Plan for the universe
I don’t remember writing this post I just remember watching the trailer for the Odyssey then blacking out and posting to tumbler the ramblings of a possessed cinema priest