labhair cibé gaeilge atá agat!!

thorin | 23 | he/him/sé | USA/American but trying to connect with my Irish roots!

[finnlongman]

Learn the days of the week with Cú Chulainn, featuring: murder.

[finnlongman]

On Monday he killed his way through one hundred people, but he was still angry.

On Tuesday he killed his way through two hundred people, but he was still angry.

On Wednesday—

[artnlife2]

Black Love: Homies, My Ride or Die.....we drink; we sink into the brazen nips of the night....

[gaeilge-rules]

20+ Video Games You Can Play In The Irish Language

Did you know that there are video games in the Irish language that you can enjoy today? Check out our listed here.

bought dicey dungeons today!

[gaeilge-rules]

on a one-man mission chun cluichí ríomhaire a chur ar fáil sa ghaeilge

[twitchcoded-deactivated20240816]

celtic languages mega drive folder

261 files and 13 subfolders

i've been meaning to share my folder of celtic language pdfs for a while now, especially since duolingo has gotten even worse. the folder has pdfs of language-learning material, as well as some stuff on literature, history, indentity, etc. this is very much a work-in-progress, as i will add to the folder as i find more resources.

my folder currently has: welsh, breton, cornish, irish, scottish gaelic, manx, béarlagair na saor, early modern irish and classical gaelic, old irish, middle welsh, old welsh, and proto-celtic (although not all of them have a lot of pdfs in their folders yet).

(also if you want online resources, fiction books, media, etc, then take a look at this website: https://www.celtic-languages.org/Main_Page - it has both free and paid resources for irish, scottish gaelic, manx, welsh, cornish, breton, old irish, and classical gaelic.)

[ajarofpickledtears]

it do be like that I guess

[ajarofpickledtears]

thank u reddit

[an-spideog]

Don't Use Duolingo if You Really Want to Learn Irish

That title is a bit dramatic, but I really don't think that duolingo is a useful tool for Irish, especially in its current state, so I want to talk a bit about why, and I'll also talk about some alternatives.

Pronunciation

The first and most egregious issue is that at some point recently-ish, duo decided to start using Text-To-Speech for their Irish course, rather than recordings of a native speaker. The problem here is that their TTS is not trained on native speakers of Irish and pronounces words incorrectly. It doesn't make consistent distinctions between broad and slender consonants for example.

Irish has no standard pronunciation, so I understand how it can feel weird to choose just one dialect for the purposes of pronunciation (the old recordings were from a speaker of Galway Irish), but having just one dialect is much better than TTS which sounds like a learner, imagine if they had TTS for the French course which sounded like an anglophone schoolkid trying to pronounce french, and claimed they were teaching you how to speak french!

Grammar

Duo tends to be correct on grammar at least, which is a start. But often people using it get very confused about the grammar because duo doesn't explain any of it. I think there's a place for immersion in language learning, and I don't think everything has to be explained like that, but within duo's system of sentence testing and exercises like that, not having any explanation for why it's "mo chóta" and not "mo cóta" can be really confusing. Duo used to have more grammar information, it's a shame that they removed it, I wonder why they did it.

Money and Motivation

Duolingo is a business, and their motivation is not to help you learn a language 'fully', but to keep you using their app and hopefully have a higher chance of sharing it with others, competing with others, buying or causing others to buy memberships or lingots or any other in-app purchases.

I don't want to make it out like duo is some big conspiracy and they're tricking people, I don't think that's the case, but it's good to remember that their primary motivation is to keep people using the app, rather than help people move to a level in a language where they don't need the app anymore.

Keep this in mind whenever you see people trying to sell you stuff for language learning.

Why do people use Duolingo

I do get it, and I don't want to make anyone feel bad for using duo, there's a ton of reasons people tend towards it at first 1. It's really well known, so especially if you're learning a language and haven't heard of other resources for it, you'll check duolingo 2. It's very motivating for a lot of people, checking in every day and forming that habit is a really good way of sticking with a language 3. It's fun, people enjoy it

If you use it for reason 3. and you still like it, then don't worry about this post, I'm not trying to yuck anyone's yums, keep having fun!

If you use it for reasons 1. or 2. you can still keep using it if you like, but I want to suggest some other things which you might find helpful in trying to get to a higher level in Irish.

Other Resources

To address the pronunciation issue, I'd heavily recommend you disregard the pronunciation in duolingo, if you're looking for more reliable sources of pronunciation, I'd look towards recordings of native speakers, you can find that on:

Teanglann and Foclóir (they use the same recordings)

Fuaimeanna

and a really useful and underused one: https://davissandefur.github.io/minimal-pairs/ where you can hear the difference between similar sounds that English speakers often mix up in Irish.

A lot of people like duolingo because it's nice to have a clear path forward, a progression that you can get into without too much decision-making. For this I recommend getting a good textbook or course and working through it, the ones I'll recommend also have native speaker audio on them.

Learning Irish by Mícheál Ó Siadhail, this book teaches Galway Irish, not just in pronunciation but in grammar too. It's quite dense but it's well thought out and well explained.

Teach Yourself Irish (1961) this book is available for free online, and is a really good option if you're interested in Cork Irish (Munster), and have some experience with grammatical terminology. I used this book myself and really liked it, but it's very intense and not for everyone. (If you do end up using it, feel free to skip the appendices at the start, they're more of a reference and sometimes put people off from actually getting to the first chapter. Also if you have any questions about it or need any help just let me know.)

If you want a video course, there's a great course called "Now You're Talking" which is available for free online, along with audio files and worksheets here. It features Donegal Irish and leads into the more intermediate level course called Céim ar Aghaidh also available online.

There's other textbooks that I have less experience with (Buntús na Gaeilge, Gaeilge/Gramadach Gan Stró, etc.) but if they work for you, stick with them, there's nothing worse than not making progress because you keep switching resources trying to find the "perfect one"

Whether or not you continue to use Duolingo, I would really really encourage you to try engaging with media in Irish. People often shy away from this when they're learning because they don't feel like they're "ready" yet. But you basically never feel like you're ready, you just have to try and find something near your level and try to get comfortable with not understanding everything. This is where you learn a huge portion of the language, you hear how things are pronounced you see what words mean in what contexts, getting input in your target language is so important!

I know content can be kind of hard to find, so I'll make a few recommendations here: There's a wealth of content available for free online (more if you're in ireland but some internationally) on TG4 If you're still starting out, I'd recommend trying to watch some kids shows since they'll have simpler language and will be easier to follow. I wouldn't recommend using English subtitles when you watch them. Some good options include:

Dónall Dána: an Irish dub of Horrid Henry, silly and childish but the actors have good Irish and importantly the show has Irish language subtitles, they don't always match but if you're still beginning and can't necessarily get everything by ear, they're really useful. (Mostly Galway Irish)

Curious George: another dub, again with Irish language subtitles (I can't remember what dialects were in it off the top of my head but I'd assume mostly galway again)

Seó Luna: No subtitles, but a good option if you're aiming for Munster Irish, the lead character has Kerry Irish

Miraculous: No subtitles but a better show than most of the other kids' ones and more bearable to watch as an adult (Mostly Galway Irish)

Ros na Rún: Moving away from kids shows, a long running soap opera, this has Irish subtitles and a really good mix of dialects within the show. If you're finding the kids shows boring or too easy I'd really recommend it, but it can be complex because of the amount of characters, dialects, and plotlines. I'd recommend starting at the beginning of a newer season and just trying to catch on to what's happening as you go.

There are a lot of books, if you live in Ireland you can get nearly any Irish book for free from a library, so please check out your local library or request some of these from other libraries in the system:

There's a series of fairytales (Rápúnzell, Luaithríona etc.) by Máiréad Ní Ghráda which are illustrated and for children, which are a really good option for when you're just starting out reading

There's kids books about Fionn and the Fianna by Tadhg Mac Dhonnagáin

There's a cute little kids' book in Kerry Irish about a cat named Mábúis

Leabhar Breac has a lot of graphic novels, some of them based on Irish mythology, some on other stuff. The fact that they're illustrated can make it a lot easier to follow even if you don't understand all the words at first.

Gliadar has just released their Scott Pilgrim translation

If you're looking for something a bit more advanced you can look at some of the books for adult learners by Comhar, they contain simplified language and glossaries but have full original adult stories.

And if you're wanting full, natural, native-level Irish there's a load of books by those same groups, and others like An Gúm, Cló Iar-Chonnacht, Oidhreacht Chorca Dhuibhne, Éabhlóid, Coiscéim, and more.

And don't shy away from older books written in Seanchló either, they can be more challenging but it's a whole extra world of books

If you're trying to improve your listening comprehension, I definitely recommend listening to shows on Raidió na Gaeltachta, hearing native Irish speakers talk at full speed is really good practice. But I get that it can be overwhelming at first. Here are some things you can do as you build up to that:

Watching those same TV shows I mentioned without subtitles is a good way to build up listening skills.

Vifax is a website where you can practice listening to short news segments and answer questions on them, then getting to look at the transcript with notes afterwards.

Snas is kind of the evolution of vifax, now using clips from both the news and Ros na Rún.

I really hope that this post can help people move away from duolingo if they're looking to take their Irish learning to the next level, if you've got any questions, just let me know!

[apenitentialprayer]

from page 112 of a mid-ninth century manuscript of Priscian’s Institutes of Grammar; at the top of this page is a poem written by an Irish monk. Source. English translation by Kuno Meyer.

Original Irish

Is acher ingáith innocht fufuasna faircggae findḟolt ni ágor réimm mora minn dondláechraid lainn oua lothlind

English Translation 

Bitter is the wind tonight; It tosses the ocean’s white hair. Tonight I fear not the fierce warriors of Norway Coursing on the Irish sea.

[ly0nstea]

Also btw every single complaint about irish pronounciation and spelling in schools would be solved if we hammered in the slender/broad distinctions early because it would become abundantly clear why this 't' has to be surrounded by 'i's and it isn't just a thing they decided to do one day and more people would be able to spell words from just hewring them and pronounciation from just reading them send tweet

[ly0nstea]

Here's a brief post about pronounciation i made. You can also go to the wikipedia page for irish phonology or listen to the audio files on Focloir.ie to try pick up in the nuances, especially effective with words that sound similar except for the slenderness. (Beo vs. Bó, Can vs. Ceann, etc.)

[theskyisopenwide]

OP's post is a great basic introduction, and if you want some more detailed information, here's some more resources! I've put a good beginner one here, with some more complex ones + notes under the cut.

This cheat-sheet has a few parts on how to read Irish, and is very much aimed at a novice speaker looking for a comprehensive list of sounds in Irish

Wikipedia (as mentioned in the above post), is quite comprehensive, but requires working knowledge of the International Phonetic Alphabet to understand the meaning of some of the symbols (you'll pick a lot of it up just from looking at it though) - The first page is the phonology, which describes how to make the sounds of Irish. - The second is the orthography, which describes how to read and write those sounds

The final is what I would consider the diamond in the rough of Irish grammar. It's called Gramadach na Gaeilge, and is one of the most comprehensive online guides that you'll ever find. The main issue with it is that the English version has been roughly translated from German, so you'll either have to push past that or hope you can also learn a third language. Nevertheless, here are the pages on phonology and orthography. (You'll need IPA knowledge for this too)

[quarkscooljacket]

i Need to find all the Irish dub of spongebob. i have the first movie and 12 episodes so far, but it's all been dubbed and tg4 don't seem to be airing it anymore. if anyone has any leads please!!!!!! message me

[duine-aiteach]

@the-timelord-a-tardis-stole I found a link to Shrek as Gaeilge the other day - https://www.reddit.com/r/teilifis/comments/14ruta0/request_shrek_as_gaeilge/

[the-timelord-a-tardis-stole]

Thank you so much! ❤️❤️

R/teilifís also had The Lorax so I have that too now

[duine-aiteach]

I also came across these though some are old posts so may not work:

Wolfwalkers - https://www.reddit.com/r/teilifis/comments/15151pc/wolfwalkers_as_gaeilge/

Miraculous Ladybug - https://www.reddit.com/r/teilifis/comments/14qp9v2/request_tg4_miraculous_eachtra%C3%AD_bhó%C3%ADn_dé_agus_an/

The Lorax - https://www.reddit.com/r/teilifis/comments/rnti0g/dr_seuss_the_lorax_tg4_friday_24th_december_2021/

Playmobil Movie - https://www.reddit.com/r/teilifis/comments/u6hoir/playmobil_gaeilge_tg4_monday_18th_april_2022/

Fraggle Rock - https://www.reddit.com/r/teilifis/comments/m85z8q/tg4_fraggle_rock_as_gaeilge/

Garfield - https://www.reddit.com/r/teilifis/comments/p7icba/garfield_as_gaeilge/

Jungle Beat, Abominable and Hotel Transylvania - https://www.reddit.com/r/teilifis/comments/zskey4/request_more_kids_films_leagan_gaeilge/

Some of the Harry Potters - https://www.reddit.com/r/teilifis/comments/lqlp4f/harry_potter_and_the_goblet_of_fire_deathly/

Dive Olly Dive and Curious George - https://www.reddit.com/r/teilifis/comments/zmed4y/request_kids_films_leagan_gaeilge/

Adventure Time - https://www.reddit.com/r/teilifis/comments/sj2uez/where_can_i_get_adventure_time_in_irish/

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Seán Ó Daimhín's free lessons for Irish language learners.

[bloctg4]

Apart from Teanglann, Fóclóir, and Téarma, what other websites are good resources for getting better at Irish and writing with good grammar and terminology usage?

mar chuid de TG4, mholfadh muid TG4 Foghlaim!

ach má théann tú ar google is féidir neart liostaí a aimsiú go héasca:

irish central

let's learn irish

dublin city

foras na gaeilge

[archivetel-deactivated20260426]

L + ratio + your language doesn’t even decline prepositional pronouns

[archivetel-deactivated20260426]

you wish you were us

[peigslayers]

just found a treasure trove of irish language resources you can't even imagine

[peigslayers]

idk how useful this will be for people not currently engaged in irish language teaching activities but this is a spreadsheet of over 500 online links related to the irish language

[soljos2023]

Contemporary(-ish) Irish Literature

there are Irish-language, English language, and bilingual books and webpages on this list, but just over half of the items overall are Irish-language only.

GENERAL

Contemporary Irish Writing - website run by the National Library of Ireland featuring reviews and author interviews of English and Irish language literature, a good place to find out about new Irish books from a variety of publishers.

Historical Irish Corpus - a searchable / browsable database of 3000 Irish-language texts written between 1600 and 1926. good for Peadar Ua Laoghaire-era material.

PUBLISHERS

Cló Iar-Chonnacht (link to fiction category) - the 'West Connaught Press' is the most prominent Irish-language publishing house, with about 230 novels in print. you can sometimes get audiobooks for free! [eBooks] [Audiobooks].

Litríocht - essentially provides a national service by keeping many Irish-language books that would otherwise go out of print available to the public. the definitive collection of translations into Irish of recognised.

Comhar - the most important Irish-language literary magazine of this century. the monthly literary magazine is €4 on the website (but check your local library too!). they publish their own books as well.

Lilliput Press (link to bestsellers page) - my personal recommendation for good Irish books, in both English and Irish, literature and non-fiction. they have a lot of nature writing, local interest, Irish history books, and memoirs.

Dedalus Press - poetry (and drama) from Ireland and elsewhere, primarily but not exclusively in English, with translations from Irish, Portuguese, Japanese, Chinese, Italian, Arabic, Danish, Galician, and others. [Translations].

Leabhair Breac - Irish-language exclusive publishing house, specialises in historical and mythological fiction, philosophy, and retellings of Old Irish texts in modernised language. [Ancient Literature section].

Arlen House - wonderful publishing house featuring Irish poetry, prose, and drama, with a great selection of feminist writers, and a very nice Irish-language section, which is mostly poetry books.

Four Courts Press - academic publishing house; if they have it, it's good. exclusively English-language. a lot of the selection is quite expensive, but not truly excessive, and they do very good special offers and discounts. it's also a great reference point for book titles to check the library for :)

An Gúm - this is the publisher attached to Foras na Gaeilge and they mostly seem to focus on younger readers and Irish learners, but they also publish full-length novels and plays.

O'Brien Press (link to literature page) - small but pleasant collection of English-language Irish literature and literary history books.

Mercier Press - the majority of their website catalogue is 20th century Irish military history and popular national interest type books, but you do get some gentler / less ideological history books if you look around a little. [Irish-Language Section].

INDEPENDENT SHOPS

An Siopa Leabhar (link to fiction page) - original Irish-language books and Irish translations from other languages. this site is the legacy of the Siopa Ceilteach established by the Gaelic League in 1975 and also has Welsh, Scots Gaelic, and Cornish books. Go to the 'detailed search' page to see all sub-categories. [Classics]

Charlie Byrne's - a Galway-based bookshop with extensive Irish-interest, local-interest and Irish-language sections.

Dingle Bookshop - a shop in Kerry with a good selection of Irish-language books for adults and children.

Tertulia Bookshop - nice bookshop in Mayo with a good Irish interest section and some Irish-language books, and a local interest category that covers the west of Ireland in general. [Irish-language section].

Vibes and Scribes - in Cork; they do have a small Irish / Munster interest section but they're mostly here because of their 3 for €12 offer on new copies of e.g. Vintage Classics.

Books.ie (link to Irish language and culture section) - good website for contemporary-but-not-new or widely available Irish books, sometimes a little cheaper than competitors.

PHYSICAL SHOPS

obviously this will only be useful if you're in Ireland! it’s less of a ‘best bookshops in the country’ list, more of a ‘best Irish literature sections in the country’ list

Hodges Figgis, Dawson Street, Dublin

Charlie Byrne's, Middle Street, Galway

Quay Books, Sarsfield Street, Limerick

International Books, South Frederick Street, Dublin

Vibes and Scribes, Lavitt's Quay, Cork

Tertulia Bookshop, The Harbour Mill, Westport

[irishshauna]

Nollaig shona dhaoibh! ❤️

[gaeilge-rules]

10 useful sites for the adult learner - Foras Na Gaeilge

[nathalunalune]

I’m screaming… HAVE YOU SEEN THE STATE OF DUBLIN 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭💀💀💀💀💀💀