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Ok, I'm ship neutral, so no ship hate, but I have never seen people absolutely denying reality and facts this hard and as a logic loving person I cannot stand this level of delusion.
Lokius shippers might as well argue the earth is flat in the main tags, that's what it feels like to scroll trough this weirdness.
So it's gonna be this one rant post, correctly tagged of course, to vent and then I'll have to blacklist this tag (which I have never done before with any tag, cause nothing was ever this bad) for my sanity.
Firstly:
Sylki is the canon relationship of the show.
Still, even if they've broken up.
So, if Loki is in love, it's with Sylvie.
That's that Isaac Bauman interview.
It is not in any way confirmation of lokius.
(Oh and the rainbow as a symbol of hope and new beginnings passes over everybodys face. Because Loki gives everyone hope. Rainbows did have symbolic meaning before the creation of the pride flag and by denying that, shippers sound like weird ass Karens claiming the fashion industry is pushing the gay agenda by printing rainbows on kids shirts.)
Now next interview, the Kevin Wright one:
He talks about Sylki as a romantic relationship and how much Loki still cares about her, even if there is no time to focus on that, and mentions that Loki was only able to do what he did 'because he cares about her, he cares about Mobius, more than anyone he's ever cared about.' Both of them!
So shippers actually took a Sylki interview to make it about Lokius.
The 'it's about who': there's an Eric Martin interview, where he explains that losing Sylvie was the last straw for Loki and then he started to control his slipping and it was about all of the people he cared about.
Which is logical, since he can slip if he focuses on a person. If it was about Mobius only, how would he end up in the citadel again.
And Loki does a full turn, then looks at the space where the audience would be, but not directly into the camera. Because it is about everyone in that room. Full turn.
Tom's interviews:
Tom calls both Mobius and Sylvie mirrors in an interview.
He uses 'passionate disagreement' for both of them.
He had to be informed about Lokius, because he wasn't aware of it, but is obvi ship neutral/ positive here, because he's a decent human being. That's still no canon confirmation.
Oh and the scrapped ep 5? There's no way it was simply 'romcom-like', as shippers love to imagine, that would have impressed nobody and Marvel already did that with WandaVision, so it would not have been a 'big conceptual swing.
It was most likely about Loki going back to the New York invasion, which is why B 15 is in 2012. Or slipping further back even.
That would not have fit the tone of the show and blewn the budget, so it got axed.
Now my inner virgo feels better.
I can't stand people spreading misinformation, that has actually nothing to do with shipping, but with my fact-loving self.
This so much. Could never have said it better myself.
It's one thing to ship two characters that don't have a romantic relationship within the canon; I know I did it myself many times. But it's an entirely different thing to twist reality to impose a false narrative about your ship being confirmed official. Lokius shippers are on a whole other level of delusion. It's outrageous and hilarious at the same time.
that's going the be the first and last time I'm talking about this ship here but how tf can a fandom be so delusional? i mean idc about your ship preferences if you want to ship lokius go with it but why are they acting like this is a canon thing... istg it would be so much easier if they just accepted this ship was never meant to be canon in the first place đ and now they're twisting the words of ppl who worked on the show (they've been doing it for +2 years now anyway) to fit their narrative and then get mad when it's later revealed they're wrong
loki and sylvie kissed, he showed and even ""said"" he's in love with her and mobius was the one to acknowledge that and support him.
In response to the antis crowing (in the Sylki tag no less) that the Sylkiâs lost because a certain somebody thinks that shipping it is weird because theyâre like the same person.
Whoâs opinion should I take on this matter:
A- A producer of the show, whoâs opinions on Sylki being a romance in both seasons appear to be shared by the showâs other producers and writing staff, and have been for two years.
B- An actress, who has no producing credits on the show, no writing credits, and acts like sheâs 1.5 sheets to the wind at any given moment.
Iâll take option A, thanks!
Sylki hasnât lost a thing. Itâs still very much alive and thriving. Actors can have their own opinions about how they want their characters to be or what stories theyâd like to play, but at the end of they day, theyâll end up portraying whatever the writers and producers have in mind for said characters.
Reminds me of how Kristen Bell was largely against the Veronica and Logan romance in âVeronica Marsâ because she thought Logan wasnât good for her character. Didnât matter, the show still had a Logan/Veronica endgame (sort of), because that was what the creator of the show wanted.
And last I checked, Kevin Wright said Loki and Sylvieâs relationship is romantic, while Mobius and Loki are platonic. So, which is the losing team here?
WTF?? these antis that are gloating about Sophia saying it´s "weird" aren't the same that a few days ago were throwing a tantrum bc the EXECUTIVE PRODUCER Kevin Wright acknowledged Sylki as romance and said "their deep emotions drove the events in s2" AND also acknowledged Loki´s relatioship with Mobius as a friendship??
Or am I just hallucinating here???
btw Tom also mentioned that Loki and Mobius are friends, that he´s his first friend. And I think that so amazing bc this is Loki first friend EVER, a friend he did by himself, and not someone who just hang around with him bc Thor was in the room.
Anyway, guys, come on... Just ship and let ship, right? â
Lol just thinking about the âCangel came out of nowhere in season 3 and there was absolutely no build-upâ narrative when there was such organic and gentle undertones throughout the second half of season 2. Letâs just think about how our man Angel was down and out when he thought he lost Cordeliaâhe was so despondent when she said they werenât friends; when she told him how he hurt her. Iâm sorry but his reaction was NOT platonic. He HAD to make things right with her like he bought her a WHOLE new wardrobe! Mr. LIVE THE MISSION AND NOTHING ELSE WENT SHOPPING. And his smile and joy when she was so ecstatic! He was so relieved! And donât even get me started on his clear disappointment when he realized Cordelia wasnât saying she was in love with HIM in Plrtz Glrb he was low-key (high-key) feeling dejected. Idk I think itâs pretty clear what was happening but maybe thatâs just me.
I know right? So true! Not to mention the way Angel looked at her when she wore a bikini for her comercial. That wasnât exactly very platonic. And Cordy was attracted to Angel when she first met him. They were like brother and sister my a$$. Nope, they werenât.
They were friends but never had a sibling dynamic. The progression towards a romantic bond felt only natural to me and could see since season one to be honest.
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no matter how much you hate joss whedon, you have to admit he gave the mcu a really good thing: the opportunity for taika waititi to make fun of age of ultron
you all need to read this and go and give some love to it because this is the most perfect thing ever.
What we say to :Â Bend the knee?
Sansa Haters: Look at Ned Stark heâs jealous of Aryaâs skills đ
lmao I had someone tell me that the only reason Dany is burning people alive is because Cersei is stopping her from taking the throne and giving the kingdoms peace because only Dany can be a peaceful ruler.
Excuse you but i would like to present
Sansa âdo we have enough food for everyoneâ Stark
Sansa âWe need to prepare for the people who will come here for protectionâ Stark
Sansa âWe will give our bannermen their resources if we dont use themâ Stark
Sansa âMake sure our menâs armour is safeâ Stark
Sansa âWE NOT Iâ Stark
Sansa âI donât really care about power and i was ready af to hand it over to my little brotherâ Stark
Sansa âsmarter than she letâs onâ Stark
people: all sansa cares about is being queen she loved it when jon left and she was in charge
sansa: bran you are the rightful lord of winterfell sansa: i wish jon was here
Accurate.
Can we talk about how Jon wanted to go home immediately after he had arrived at Dragonstone and how Sansa sweetly says, sitting with her arms wrapped around her legs, how she wishes Jon was in Winterfell?
Tyrion: Howâs Sansa? ⌠sheâs smarter than she letâs on.
Jon: Sheâs starting to let on.
Tyrion: Good.
Jon and Sansa talking about each other in 7x03Â âThe Queenâs Justiceâ
You know what made me upset today? People who laugh at Sansa and joke about her so willingly letting Jon go after he has left the North to her. Like, âok bro safe travelsâ.
Last week everyone hated on her because she âundermined himâ by voicing her perfectly reasonable opinion in her ancestrial home. This week she agrees with him (angrily, but she does) and is willing to help him, to serve him as the Lady of Winterfell and Queen in the North like he asked her to, and she gets hate for being âpower-hungryâ.
The worst thing she could do was to keep screaming and crying as he was leaving. Instead she collected herself and submitted, although it was so obvious that she was, in fact, scared of being left alone in the North. That whole thing came unexpected, but she decided to be brave.Â
I think that the look she gave him meant âIâve got your backâ rather than âOh finally I get to govern something somewhereâ.
Yeah I totally agree. This irrational Sansa hate is out of control now. She gets hate no matter what she does.