do you think bowser ever gets anxious after kidnapping peach again that he went too far this time and he calls mario up in the middle of the night to make sure they’re still on for tennis and gokarting next weekend

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do you think bowser ever gets anxious after kidnapping peach again that he went too far this time and he calls mario up in the middle of the night to make sure they’re still on for tennis and gokarting next weekend
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The reason it is bad to remove the questionable fucked up things that Odysseus does is because it reflects the actual journeys people go through, especially in fucked up situations. Odysseus is put in a shitty situation and what does he do? He lies, he distrusts people, he is prideful and arrogant, he pisses off people, he makes hard decisions and has to live with them, and he does questionable shit. That's what people do. Real actual people. And guess what? His actions have consequences, ones that he has rightly earned. He learns. He adapts. He realizes who can trust, who he needs to appease, were he needs to be cautious, and when to shut up. He fucks up and learns. He learns to trust the people who love him, despite all his bad decisions and how long it took him to get there. He learns to take advice. And at the end of all of this he hasn't been redeemed of what he's done. His men are still dead. He is haunted by the past. But he gets to go home. Because people are not morally perfect. They make questionable desicions and have to try again and again through one crazy adventure after another. That's the point of a journey. To fuck up and learn and try again and eventually you get to find your home. Despite Odysseus' lies and questionable decisions, he gets to go home. That is why Odysseus being a prideful, questionable asshole is important.
I would say though that the opposite is also wrong. Like I would have been a millionaire every time someone says that "Odysseus lies" as if that is the only thing he does while arguably he is honest and sincere much more often than what he lies
Plus it sounds sometimes like all Odysseus does when he is in a tough situation is to lie but ironically it isn't. Sometimes he does when he has no choice. Other times he persuades and other times he fights back. His adaptability is not only based on deception or indirect ways but also on what you would expect your average hero to do.
It is good to support a hero's wrongs in the narrative but not by forgetting his rights.
Odysseus is definitely a figure that can do things that he has to when others don't. He is the one that is more likely to use words to resolve something while others wouldn't and yet he is also fighting first line. One must never forget he is the man that was a protagonist at the war not just in diplomacy but also in battle. He also took some of the riskiest missions such as taking the Palladium out of enemy territory. He was the one that got wounded while protecting Achilles's body. He is the one that left without protection to an unknown territory and went to save his men from a goddess-witch and the one that stood with two spears ready to face an immortal six headed dragon
Is good to always remember that he is capable of indirect ways but not by forgetting that this is not the only side of his or that it is even the primary side of his. Part is his complexity is exactly why he is a hero of myth in the first place; because he is not just one side.
I did not say he never did anything right or even ignoring why he does them. Yes, he is complicated and complex. This post is not denying that. I am arguing against modern tendencies to erase the bad things he does. This is my second post I made on modern audiences erasing the bad things Odysseus does and in that one I reiterated that Odysseus is an extremely complex character and that it is not a good thing to sanitize him. This posts specific purpose is meant to explain WHY his failings and questionable choices are important to the story. I do not feel the need to reiterate the good he does, because modern audiences already values those things and are well aware of the arguements for them. The compulsion, for lack of a better word at the moment, people have to explain the goodness in Odysseus' actions is exactly WHY I wrote this. I am not arguing that he is a horrible, evil character who does nothing good.
Although, many of the things you listed I would argue are not nearly as good natured as you argued. Yes he took on the dangerous mission to get the Palladium, however he also contemplated stabbing Diomedes in the back so that he would be able to take all the credit. He framed Palamedes for treason in the middle of the war for calling him out for trying to evade his oath and refused his greiving father, ultimately endangering all of the lords going home. I also would also argue that for all his grand acts, he is actually a rather poor leader and military commander. He has grand actions and gets himself a lot of glory but treats his men poorly, recklessly, and dismissively, often putting their lives in danger in favor of his curiousity and ambition and often leads them without communication or clarity. I'm not suprised they acted out so much. But all of that is because Odysseus is so complex. Most of the people on Tumblr already want to make him a saint, I don't need to argue that side. I am saying 'I know the audience wants to make everything he does good, but this is the other side of Odysseus and why it is important to not erase the questionable things he does.'
You didn't. I am adding it because there were many takes over the time that led to this so I do like to add this from time to time. And I have seen way too many modern tendencies to actually overly focusing on the bad things he has done to the point of ironically not following the sources at all. They prefer to just randomly say "he is horrible" than follow the source. Even if they even start from a sanitized version (see for example the take of the musical) they seem to turn to the whole "oh yeah he ended up terrible anyways" which is why I add it. I have seen more modern takes of his denying his good sides in the end. Even by people that claim to appreciate his character.
Ironically the stabbing thing was firstly memorized at a Roman source of Connon. A mythographer of Augustean times. The framing for murder was also added to sources like Hyginus and later both were mentioned by later sources at the times of Apollodorous or Pausanias or later than that by people who look back at these sources. I have seen people treat the palladium heist as the sole source there is because "Odysseus is terrible" but the connon version is also adding some questions as to how things went there because both Odysseus and Diomedes were seen as hostile to each other even if most indirect sources that we have on epic cycle.
I have seen more people speak on the Hyginus framing story because again "Odysseus is terrible" than let's say Pausanias who claims another version that Palamedes was killed at a fishing expedition which could even indicate a crime of passion than the lethal and amazingly terrible mastermind that is playing around with people's lives Hyginus is projecting. They do not even choose the version of murder that is somewhere in-between, the well murder where both Diomedes and Odysseus (people also casually ignore Diomedes from the equation and when they add him of course it is only the fault of Odysseus because he is the only one with bad influence and no one else. The rest are just heroic except for the Atreides. These two are devils too lol) because again "Odysseus is terrible"
First off, I did not and do not intend to get into an arguement with you over the reception of Odysseus over the different sources. (I am simply not a person who enjoys debating.) I do see how many tend to over correct on Odysseus, either favorably or unfavorably. Anything I mentioned was merely to point out he can be interpreted differently and it leads to his credence as a complicated character. Many of the instances I did not bring up because I never intended to argue on (Astynax, Calpyso and Cerce, etc...). (Also by "his father" I was refering to Nauplius, Palamedes father, not Laertes.) However, I have no intension of arguing the details of these events further other than, they can, in fact, be argued either way. Such is the nature of Odysseus, which is what makes him such a fascinating character. I personally do not wish to condemn or praise it and will leave it at that.
The nature of my post was and still is meant to demonstrate the value in retaining the unfavorable side of Odysseus' actions. I am aware that there are sections of the populace that can lead hard into focusing solely on his unfavorable reception. I very carefully tried to lean away from doing so and I post this on Tumblr because this is one of the sites that tends to lean much further favorable to Odysseus. All of these were made with intention so I still so not budge my stance of my post.
Lastly, I interprete Odysseus as a poor military leader becuase while I am educated on Classics and study this deeply, my highest education is in military strategy and diplomacy. (I am not a soldier just to clarify lol.) I do not see him as a good military leader. Perhaps this is my instance of holding characters to modern ideals, but I quite commonly evaluate the effectiveness of military and diplomatics strategies and Odysseus does not hold up to military ideals I have been taught or believe. On this we will have to merely agree to disagree with the acceptance on my part that I may have been influenced by modern ideals.
This has been a fascinating discussion, so I thank you.
The reason it is bad to remove the questionable fucked up things that Odysseus does is because it reflects the actual journeys people go through, especially in fucked up situations. Odysseus is put in a shitty situation and what does he do? He lies, he distrusts people, he is prideful and arrogant, he pisses off people, he makes hard decisions and has to live with them, and he does questionable shit. That's what people do. Real actual people. And guess what? His actions have consequences, ones that he has rightly earned. He learns. He adapts. He realizes who can trust, who he needs to appease, were he needs to be cautious, and when to shut up. He fucks up and learns. He learns to trust the people who love him, despite all his bad decisions and how long it took him to get there. He learns to take advice. And at the end of all of this he hasn't been redeemed of what he's done. His men are still dead. He is haunted by the past. But he gets to go home. Because people are not morally perfect. They make questionable desicions and have to try again and again through one crazy adventure after another. That's the point of a journey. To fuck up and learn and try again and eventually you get to find your home. Despite Odysseus' lies and questionable decisions, he gets to go home. That is why Odysseus being a prideful, questionable asshole is important.
I would say though that the opposite is also wrong. Like I would have been a millionaire every time someone says that "Odysseus lies" as if that is the only thing he does while arguably he is honest and sincere much more often than what he lies
Plus it sounds sometimes like all Odysseus does when he is in a tough situation is to lie but ironically it isn't. Sometimes he does when he has no choice. Other times he persuades and other times he fights back. His adaptability is not only based on deception or indirect ways but also on what you would expect your average hero to do.
It is good to support a hero's wrongs in the narrative but not by forgetting his rights.
Odysseus is definitely a figure that can do things that he has to when others don't. He is the one that is more likely to use words to resolve something while others wouldn't and yet he is also fighting first line. One must never forget he is the man that was a protagonist at the war not just in diplomacy but also in battle. He also took some of the riskiest missions such as taking the Palladium out of enemy territory. He was the one that got wounded while protecting Achilles's body. He is the one that left without protection to an unknown territory and went to save his men from a goddess-witch and the one that stood with two spears ready to face an immortal six headed dragon
Is good to always remember that he is capable of indirect ways but not by forgetting that this is not the only side of his or that it is even the primary side of his. Part is his complexity is exactly why he is a hero of myth in the first place; because he is not just one side.
I did not say he never did anything right or even ignoring why he does them. Yes, he is complicated and complex. This post is not denying that. I am arguing against modern tendencies to erase the bad things he does. This is my second post I made on modern audiences erasing the bad things Odysseus does and in that one I reiterated that Odysseus is an extremely complex character and that it is not a good thing to sanitize him. This posts specific purpose is meant to explain WHY his failings and questionable choices are important to the story. I do not feel the need to reiterate the good he does, because modern audiences already values those things and are well aware of the arguements for them. The compulsion, for lack of a better word at the moment, people have to explain the goodness in Odysseus' actions is exactly WHY I wrote this. I am not arguing that he is a horrible, evil character who does nothing good.
Although, many of the things you listed I would argue are not nearly as good natured as you argued. Yes he took on the dangerous mission to get the Palladium, however he also contemplated stabbing Diomedes in the back so that he would be able to take all the credit. He framed Palamedes for treason in the middle of the war for calling him out for trying to evade his oath and refused his greiving father, ultimately endangering all of the lords going home. I also would also argue that for all his grand acts, he is actually a rather poor leader and military commander. He has grand actions and gets himself a lot of glory but treats his men poorly, recklessly, and dismissively, often putting their lives in danger in favor of his curiousity and ambition and often leads them without communication or clarity. I'm not suprised they acted out so much. But all of that is because Odysseus is so complex. Most of the people on Tumblr already want to make him a saint, I don't need to argue that side. I am saying 'I know the audience wants to make everything he does good, but this is the other side of Odysseus and why it is important to not erase the questionable things he does.'
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The reason it is bad to remove the questionable fucked up things that Odysseus does is because it reflects the actual journeys people go through, especially in fucked up situations. Odysseus is put in a shitty situation and what does he do? He lies, he distrusts people, he is prideful and arrogant, he pisses off people, he makes hard decisions and has to live with them. He does questionable shit. That's what people do. Real actual people. And guess what? His actions have consequences, ones that he has rightly earned. He learns. He adapts. He realizes who can trust, who he needs to appease, where he needs to be cautious, and when to shut up. He fucks up and learns. He learns to trust the people who love him, despite all his bad decisions and how long it took him to get there. He learns to take advice. And at the end of all of this he hasn't been redeemed of what he's done. His men are still dead. He is haunted by the past. But he gets to go home. Because people are not morally perfect. They make questionable desicions and have to try again and again through one crazy adventure after another. That's the point of a journey. To fuck up and learn and try again and eventually you get to find your home. Despite Odysseus' lies and questionable decisions, he gets to go home. That is why Odysseus being a prideful, questionable asshole is important.
I will never understand modern audiences' obsession with arguing Odysseus being morally upright according to modern standards.
(First off, this is Greek Mythology. Please stop trying to push modern morality onto it. These stories are thousands of years old and from a completely different culture than your own. The standards of what is right and wrong will be different. Arguing differently is delusional.)
But seriously, why Odysseus??? Odysseus is one of the single most complex characters in history and you want to sanitize him. The fact that he does so many questionable things is the entire point!
But also, there are easier characters if all you want is a fav that you can support. Orpheus just wanted his wife back. Orestes was born into a generational family curse and was damned no matter what he did. Perseus killed Medusa, but he mainly was just trying to save his mom and even saved a princess on the way. Hercules was essentially being tormented by his stepmom, went mad, and tried to redeem himself. Hell, I literally would have an easier time arguing in the favor of Achilles!
They killed Julius Caesar AGAIN today.
every march 15 in rome they restage the assassination at torre argentina. you know. the literal ruins of the curia of pompey. the exact place where it actually happened in 44 BCE.
and then they put his body on a litter and do a whole funeral procession through the city. with professional mourners and everything. they literally blocked traffic for this.
like imagine missing your bus because rome decided to re-kill julius caesar today.
note: i tried to show in the video how huge the crowd was because there were SO many people. also the last part of the video shows the roman forum, where caesar is actually buried. people still leave flowers there.
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