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āØļøWIPāØļøI watched Avartar for the first time in my life about a month ago and I can't stop thinking about it and Zutara since then! š
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Friendly reminder: don't feed the trolls.
There have been quite a few anti-Zutara posts showing up in the Zutara tag lately. Funny how some people won't tag their own ship, but make sure to tag ours.
The best response is no response. Leave them with nothing. Don't give them the engagement, attention, or reaction they're hoping to get.
Starve the bait, and let them shout into the void.
Love you guys ā¤ļø
Avatar the last Airbender and Percy Jackson is a prime example of when a creator KNOWS they've caught lightning in a bottle but instead of just admitting that and continuing on with their lives, they keep milking the franchise to the point of the series losing its identity and the core fans being left unhappy.
The worst part is it's not like they're broke and NEED to do this. The forced romance, the incomplete character arcs, and the mischaracterization of these well established characters is all for the love of the game. Nothing is preventing them from checking the original material and working from there.
Fellow creators, it's okay to say you've had a good run. You don't have to make 50 live actions, books that everyone clowns on for how badly made they are, and a bunch of new randoms that no one cares about just to stay relevant.
Anyway, comment what franchise suffers from this exact situation! I'd love to chat.
@/samstatlight is an AI-regurgitating account.
all of their posts to date rely entirely on AI to ācontributeā to discussions around Zutara.
as a fandom, we cannot allow the very thing that is helping capitalists take away our rights to our arts; destroying and polluting our precious Earth; and being used to subjugate the minds of the people by making them reliant on AI for everything from the arts to academia to making their grocery lists to take hold here.
please do not engage with this person.
do not make the mistakes i haveāfrom my recent experience trying to engage with them, they are not willing to learn. they block most people who criticize them and they delete posts theyāve made in attempts to avoid accountability for their words and actions.
we can do more by making a strong show of how we will not accept this behavior in our spaces. do not like, reblog, or comment further. simply block and move on.
furthermore, i have seen many ZKs saying, āI know itās AI, butā¦ā
we cannot say ābut.ā there is no ābut.ā
AI is a plague on this world that will let the rich strip us of our arts for profit, and only we can fight it.
do better.
Am no longer responding to discourse. Yes I believe zuko and katara are having an affair in the movie. No I do not buy the colonizer x colonized argument because that just unwrites season three completely. Yes I ship zutara because of the canonical writing that builds and strengthens their relationship, even just platonically, and because of the sheer potential. No I do not give a fuck about how aang would feel. Yes I think katara deserves better. No I do not think shipping is meant to be taken this seriously BUT people do have certain racist/misogynistic biases that push them over to talk and bully people the way they do. Yes I do believe somewhere in my heart zuko and katara are happily married and feeding their turtleducks. No I am not self inserting through katara. Yes I do love the agenda of zuko and katara cheating just because it makes everyone mad and itās hot. No I do not think fanfiction is a cope - if it was, then why have fandom altogether? And yes I am still not over them even through a decade or a hundred years. Thank you
you have to remember it's always always worse on twitter
Fandom culture is so bleak rn like what is the obsession with canon
yk, with all this news about projects getting leaked and cancelled and hidden truths coming out about how terrible brykes leadership is under avatar studios, itās no surprise they are receiving karma after bullying kids and teenagers who shipped Zutara years ago.
āWhoever ships Zutara will forever have doomed relationshipsā
well they just digged their own grave because the universe UNO reversed card them forever being doomed to fail with anything after the og showšš¾
The way anti-Zutara are indirectly hate Katara:
Zuko and Katara dynamic is bully x victim, and female character is always the victim.
Are you referring to Katara or the actress Katara in the Ember Island show?
Katara is absolutely not to be underestimated. She managed to overthrew the patriarchy of the Northern Water Tribe, defeated the inventor of bloodbending, and you think Katara would just be a victim of Zuko's bullying? It doesn't make any sense!
How many times Katara kicked Zuko's ass?
They started as enemies and fought as equals, then became friends and worked together as equals.
Zuko would've taken the lightning for everyone, even Momo. Katara IS NOT special in that state.
Katara IS INDEED special for Zuko. I'm telling you again and again and again, SHE IS SPECIAL FOR ZUKO.
Zuko had to earn Katara's forgiveness. And that alone already makes Katara special to him.
He approached Katara and said, "What can I do to make it up to you?"
He went to Sokka's tent to say, "I don't know why, but I DO CARE what she thinks of me."
He waited all night for her
That's something he never even did for Mai, his own girlfriend. And you said Katara isn't special?
Zuko would've taken the lightning for everyone. Katara IS NOT special in that state???
Katara was the ONLY ONE in that state where Zuko jumped in front of lightning. And that is because she's SPECIAL.
After she forgave him, Zuko trusted Katara more than anyone.
Zuko had the choice to ask for help from Toph or Sokka (who anti-Zutara claim have better chemistry than Katara), or Suki, or even Iroh.
But without a second thought, Katara was the FIRST and ONLY person he asked to help him face Azula. Why?
Katara rejected Aang, poor Aang. And he kissed her without concent was wrong, but he was only 12 year old.
A 12 year old boy can make mistakes, but also can say "I'm sorry. I was wrong."
If he really really loves her, is not very hard words to say.
Besides, don't you ever wonder how Katara's feelings suddenly shifted from confused to choosing Aang, especially after he kissed her without consent or after he snapped at her out of frustration over Ozai right before he disappeared?
Or do you guys just not care, as long as the hero gets the girl?
Katara is destined to be with Aang. She is the only hope for bringing back the Airbenders.
Do you think it was romantic?
To say that Katara is the only hope for bringing back the Air Nation means forcing a heavy burden onto her for something that isn't even her responsibility.
Have you ever imagined what if Tenzin was never born?
Either Aang would just keep trying for a baby until an Airbender finally popped out
Or heād end up disappointed with Katara because even being with her couldn't make his dream come true
I mean, do you remember every time Katara tried to help (like in the desert and when Aang was trying to find a way to defeat Ozai), Aang got mad at her like she could never understand him?
Is there any a single reason he wouldn't do that again?
Not to mention, Korra accidentally brings back the Air Nation. The solution was a cosmic event all along! That reduces Katara narrative as 'the only hope'. In the end, she's not the only hope.
But Katara gave birth to Tenzin, who would eventually teach them airbending.
Why wasn't Aang the one to bring his people back? He could've triggered a cosmic event or found a hidden civilization, anything that didn't put the burden on Katara in the first place.
Worst: Those fanarts where Aang looks depressed and completely clueless about how to restore the Air Nation, and everyone is pointing at Katara like"Hello, this is your solution!" Looks like she's a baby machine to me.
I didn't just see one fan art, and I really hate the concept. I feel like Katara is nothing but a tool, rather than someone who is loved for who she is, not what she can provide.
Katara help people, because she wants to, not for glory. When Katara more mature and older, she would be more humble.
She's helps people and being humble doesn't mean she doesn't deserve a statue. All Gaang have theirs, are they being arrogant? No! The statue is the symbol of their legendary roles in saving the world. That's why, as humble as she is, she deserves better.
And by zuko having something to gain by switching sides (romantic love in this case) his redemption arc isnt as impactful, he had EVERYTHING to loose and nothing to gain when he joined the gaang which is why it was so effective.
this type of argument from antis is so annoying because it doesn't even make sense. katara isn't zuko's "something to gain" and it feels like a poor attempt to give zutara a similar level of "trophy" as the "hero gets the girl" trope. zuko switched sides because of his own change in heart. this is a quote from the day of Black sun:
No, I've learned everything! And I've had to learn it on my own! Growing up, we were taught that the Fire Nation was the greatest civilization in history. And somehow, the War was our way of sharing our greatness with the rest of the world. What an amazing lie that was. People around the world are terrified of the Fire Nation. They don't see our greatness. They hate us! And we deserve it! We've created an era of fear in the world. And if we don't want the world to destroy itself, we need to replace it with an era of peace and kindness.
this is not "i'm joining team avatar because i think katara is attractive and i want to be with her."
zuko and katara's relationship (canonically friends) is not predicated on obligation, so this anti argument doesn't make sense. in TSR, he asks what he can do to make it up to her and she gives him an IMPOSSIBLE task -- effectively saying that she will never forgive him. He isn't "gaining" anything because he had to earn her friendship/respect; it's why he was so shocked when she hugged him at the end of TSR. although, there is a ship that does have obligation written into it canonically - (nodding at "avatar's girl for example), but we never hear y'all antis bring ts up.
a potential romantic!zutara relationship would come after his redemption arc; and it doesn't make sense to retroactively trivialize the growth that he went through to get to that place.
also these arguments always feel disingenious because you would never catch these antis saying that zukka would erase zuko's redemption arc. like, we can't even keep consistency.
Wanting to earn someoneās forgiveness vs expecting someone to choose forgiveness are two different things and somehow the ATLA fandom mixes that shit up when it comes to TSR even though the difference is clearly spelled out.
Genuine Question: Has anyone received a copyright infringement notice, on here, Reddit, or similar social media platforms, regarding the shared movie?
Not too long ago, back in late May, I was reported for a Reddit post that has since been deleted (on my end) on what I think YEARNING looks like. I used a screenshot of Zuko and Katara.
This was the image in question.
I was reported for this. Although I do understand and I own up to it, I keep seeing posts from MONTHS ago and still coming on the leaked movie, including spoilers. I've seen people sharing links on various social media platforms.
Today, I happened to check my email and saw this response I will share, including one of the most previous ones.
Again, I do understand that I shared a screenshot, but I am curious who else is receiving similar posts.
It makes me wonder if this seems...targeted (allegedly).
I do think it's fair that reports may not happened, so many people have shared clips, screenshots, spoilers, and the movie. However, I only shared a theory, which I own up to. It just seems odd.
I would love to know your thoughts and experiences.
Needed to get adult zuko tying his hair back with a hair tie in his mouth out of my system idk
If you ship ZK, you should block Lemonletta.
They've been cross tagging Kataang and Maiko. I told them to use the anti tag when talking shit but they won't. I'm not even sure if they're an actual Zutara shipper or just here to troll. But no cross tags will be accepted.
āYou just hate a.ang so much do you? You just want to be with zuko so bad.ā I donāt hate a.ang, I just favor katara. Like I love zutara because I love katara. I ship zutara because I love katara. Itās katara first for me.