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English is my 2nd language. I appreciate your patience with any awkward phrasing :)
things i wish were portrayed in fiction more often (books and fanfiction)
very loving and affectionate 100% asexual relationships
deep and emotional friendships between men and women that aren't romantic (same goes for all genders but men and women especially)
platonic cuddling!!!!!!!!
a prostitute/sex worker type character who is really chill about the job and acts like a normal person
ACCURATE MENTAL DISORDER PORTRAYALS (especially autism and ADHD)
non-romantic character foils
I hate that when i searched for fanfic about an aroace character the only things i found were smut
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The way people talk about Gale Hawthorne makes me think that most Hunger Games fans didn't understand the story.
No hold on I'm not done. Gale Hawthorne is never the bad guy. He's never the love interest. He certainly shouldn't be 'the one who couldn't walk away even when it destroyed everything he loved.'
Gale is just another Katniss. He's another kid taking out increasingly high odds on his life in the hopes that it would be enough. He's another teenager who watched as his hometown was burned to ash because his best friend wouldn't die for the Capital. He drags people away from the flames and leads them to 13, where all of his fury and skill and protectiveness are shaped by people with a much deeper grasp on the situation than he has.
Gale builds a bomb that would have taken him out. He makes a two stage bomb that takes out the people who pour in to help, because Gale is the kid who went running towards the explosions. He's the one who had to drag people away from the burned out buildings and screaming neighbors. Gale builds the perfect bomb and a person with more power and sway than Gale could dream of uses it on her own people.
Gale Hawthorne watches his best friend walk to her death to save her sister and promises to keep her family safe. Gale sees the trauma irrevocably change Katniss, sees a dictator come for his friend and her family and her town, and does his best to help her. He builds a bomb, and then watches as another dictator uses it to kill his friends and his family and the fucking children Snow hides behind, and he has to live with that for the rest of his life.
Hunger Games is a series about the ugly side of war and the way people in power will do anything to keep it - including hiding behind their children and bombing their own medics. It's about how people with no resources are used by powerful parties and the consequences that follow. Don't lose that because you think Gale's response to overwhelming trauma was less palatable than Peeta's.
Young Adult - Fiction that (primarily) portrays an adolescent as the protagonist, rather than an adult or a child. The subject matter and story lines are typically consistent with the age and experience of the main character, but beyond that, the stories span the entire spectrum of fiction genres. The settings are limited only by the imagination and skill of the author. [part 1]
No matter what I do, I’m hurting someone…
Residents of District Twelve
“By whitewashing the poorest district in Panem, the the filmmakers successfully depoliticized the story. They removed any possibility of Panem being a racist country, of poverty and race somehow being related. Sure, Rue was still black, but Katniss was white. White people are just as oppressed as people of color, therefore race isn’t an issue in Panem. Race is taken out of the equation. Why not just make the tagline #AllLivesMatter? And even though people of color suffer alongside white people, it’s white people whose narratives we follow, white people who are allowed complexity and sympathy, and white people who are allowed to survive in the end… The Hunger Gamesis successful as a franchise because it doesn’t force us to think. By removing racism from the equation, it gives us an easy, non-controversial image of oppression. Oppression is a bad thing done by bad people. It’s sad, it’s hard to watch, and innocent people die, but uncomfortable things like racism are never brought up. It doesn’t explore why social inequality and poverty exist, they just do. Never mind that in Mississippi, the infant mortality rate exceeds that of Botswana, and that black infants are almost twice as likely as white infants to die. Never mind that black and brown people are more likely to be housed in environmentally-hazardous areas, where they’re exposed to dangerous materials more than the average, middle-class white person. No, never mind these things, because they make us uncomfortable, and we don’t want to be uncomfortable when we go see a movie. We want to be entertained. And oppression is only entertaining when the oppressed are conventionally-attractive white people. In a strange way, The Hunger Games has become a parody of itself. It’s gone from the story of a young woman of color rising up against a racist, totalitarian society and struggling with PTSD, to a glamorized, monetized spectacle in which millions of dollars have been invested. The Capitol didn’t watch simply for the death, it watched for the drama, the star-crossed lovers of District 12, the suffering and betrayal. And we in our own way are the Capitol, consuming the deaths of innocent people for our own entertainment, declaring ourselves “Team Peeta” or “Team Gale,” buying makeup from Covergirl’s Capitol Collection, turning a story of resistance into an extravagant spectacle to be marketed and sold like anything else in a capitalist society. Just as the Capitol watches for the drama, so do we. And I think part of that is inevitable in storytelling. But part of it is also preventable. We are a country founded on genocide, slave labor, and police brutality. We’re not in danger of becoming Panem; we have always been Panem.”
— From Panem to Ferguson: How Oppression Narratives Lost Their Meaning in the 21st Century (via dil-chaspi)
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Q'orianka Kilcher as Katniss Everdeen and Tyler Posey as Gale Hawthorne requested by @guardianofthegalaxyy
“I killed Prim,” Gale said with an evil sneer. “And I properly meant to as well,” he added, laughing maniacally. - Mockingjay (the version that most people apparently read)
“As everyone knows, Gale is an enormous part of Katniss’ life, but he’s not as big a part of the first book as he is the subsequent books,” the director told us. “I think he’s very, very present and he’s tremendously important, but of course we shift into the Capitol and then the arena, where Peeta ends up playing a more prominent role. But he’s in her head, he’s in her life, he’s something that echoes with her throughout the games, as any reader of the book knows, so he plays an obviously prominent role.”
— Gary Ross, on Gale’s voiceover (via maytheodds)
I find people funny who say Everlark is unhealthy but Everthorne is sweet.
Everlark: Katniss loves Peeta. She fell in love with him slowly over time and by the end she was in love with him and couldn’t live without him. He overcame what the Capitol tried to do and the only reason Katniss didn’t want children before was because she didn’t want to have kids that would go into the games. There are no games, therefore she is happy to start a family. He had only one moment of being petty when he was hurt and after that he was only ever doing things for her, including the may times he attempted to sacrifice himself for the sake of her happiness.
Everthorne: Katniss only ever kisses Gale when he’s sad, she kisses him out of sympathy and because she feels guilty like she has to, never because she actually wants to or is attracted to him. Throughout the series it is made clear that Katniss either only sees him as a friend or isn’t sure because so much is happening. Not to mention he chooses the worst possible times to harass her about who she wants to be with. And whether he was making the right choices or not, he chose plans that would cause the death of innocent civilians while Katniss fought hard to stop them and we all know how that ended for them both.
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I’m going to do this trying to quote as much canon at this as possible because when people say that Katniss and Peeta have elements that are worrisome, it’s not people pulling things out of a hat. In fact, the first point I’m going to tackle is that you say that she was in love with him and couldn’t live without him. And that’s somehow made romantic? Why are we still on and on thinking that not being able to live without someone, as in, you’re physicially unable to and break down and fall apart and the very basis of your sanity collapses if that person’s not around, is romantic? Why?? Are we still??? on that????
Not being able to live without someone is not cute.
You say that Peeta overcame what the Capitol did to him, which was basically brainwashing. Okay, when exactly did Peeta overcome the hijacking? Because in Mockingjay, he’s still having attacks and his pupils dilate and turn to pinpoints in an aggressively and worrisome manner, he’s about to have attacks all the time and that’s in the war. He has to be handcuffed??? When does he overcome the brainwashing???? Is it in some epilogue that I do not know about? On some other novel that I did not read?? There’s no instance in Mockingjay that says Peeta goes back to being normal as in he recovers fully and does not have attacks that mean that he could kill Katniss any moment. In fact close to the epilogue it says “There are still moments when he clutches the back of a chair and hangs on until the flashbacks are over.” Trust me, I’ve looked for moments or something that tells me that Peeta recovered fully and does not go balistic but the book doesn’t tell me that anywhere. So when does he recover, exactly?. The only semblance of a SIGN that points in that direction is the kiss where she says “Stay with me” and he says “Always”, as if he remembers the first time he said those words. And you cannot tell me that a kiss fixes the whole hijacking.
You say Katniss is happy to have a family. iS SHE REALLY?
“It took five, ten, fifteen years for me to agree. But Peeta wanted them so badly. When I first felt her stirring inside of me, I was consumed with a terror that felt as old as life itself. Only the joy of holding her in my arms could tame it. Carrying him was a little easier, but not much.”
Is that happy to you? Is she happy about being pregnant? It’s 15 years later with no Games, which is the argument, that she just had to see that there are no games anymore, and she still is scared of having them! She has to be persuaded into them because Peeta wanted them so badly!
You acknowledge the freeze out Peeta did and that it was petty, okay GOOD, but also you say “ after that he was only ever doing things for her, including the may times he attempted to sacrifice himself for the sake of her happiness.” And we circle back to my opening statement: WHY is it romantic to have someone want to die for you? Sacrifice themselves for you? Why is it romantic that Peeta tells her “she’s his whole life”, and that outside of her he has no reason for living, not even self-preservation, and that’s healthy???? how does that not ring warning bells to you???? Not to mention that he is lying to her in that scene
Now we go to the Everthorne part of your post, and listen… I can be here all night quoting stuff from these books but I’m going to keep it brief, so I’m just going to let the text speak for itself because I’m tired. I’ve been in this fandom for years and the same arguments keep popping up. Find new material honestly, or at least read the text itself.:
Oh, Katniss only kisses Gale when he’s sad? From Mockingjay:
“No. Just the opposite.” Gale pulls a feather out of my hair. “I thought…I’ll never compete with that. No matter how much pain I’m in.” He spins the feather between his thumb and forefinger. “I don’t stand a chance if he doesn’t get better. You’ll never be able to let him go. You’ll always feel wrong about being with me."
"The way I always felt wrong kissing him because of you,” I say. Gale holds my gaze.
“If I thought that was true, I could almost live with the rest of it."
"It is true,” I admit. “But so is what you said about Peeta.”
Guess what? Katniss also kisses Peeta when he’s wounded, too. In fact, it’s what draws her to him in Mockingjay. Don’t look at me funny that’s what the text says.
Oh Katniss never kisses Gale because she wants to? Or because she’s attracted to him?
From Catching Fire, that kiss people love to say was forced on her:
I tried to decide how I felt about the kiss, if I had liked it or resented it, but all I really remembered was the pressure of Gale’s lips and the scent of the oranges that still lingered on his skin. It was pointless comparing it with the many kisses I’d exchanged with Peeta. I still hadn’t figured out if any of those counted.
You say that throughout the series Katniss only sees him as a friend or is never sure of what is happening,
From The Hunger Games:
I call him my friend, but in the last year it’s seemed too casual a word for what Gale is to me. A pang of longing shoots through my chest. If only he was with me now!
Gale’s not my boyfriend, but would he be, if I opened that door?
From Catching Fire
For the first time, I reverse our positions in my head. I imagine watching Gale volunteering to save Rory in the reaping, having him torn from my life, becoming some strange girl’s lover to stay alive, and then coming home with her. Living next to her. Promising to marry her. The hatred I feel for him, for the phantom girl, for everything, is so real and immediate that it chokes me. Gale is mine. I am his. Anything else is unthinkable.
Oh you say that Gale harrasses her about who she wants to be with?
From Mockingjay, you know that time she’s actually confused kissing him:
“Now kiss me.” Bewildered, unblinking, I stand there while he leans in and presses his lips to mine briefly. He examines my face closely. “What’s going on in your head?"
"I don’t know,” I whisper back.
“Then it’s like kissing someone who’s drunk. It doesn’t count,” he says with a weak attempt at a laugh. He scoops up a pile of kindling and drops it in my empty arms, returning me to myself
Such harrassment! Letting her be when she’s confused and not pressuring her! OMG.
And on a final note: You said that Gale fought to kill civilians while Katniss fought hard to stop it?
FROM MOCKINGJAY:
“So, it’d be easy for you? Using that on people?” I ask.
“I didn’t say that.” Gale drops the bow to his side. “But if I’d had a weapon that could’ve stopped what I saw happen in Twelve…if I’d had a weapon that could have kept you out of the arena…I’d have used it."
"Me, too,” I admit.
She answers me too!!! She also would have used that weapon!!!
She squints at me in doubt, or maybe she’s just trying to get my face in focus. “I didn’t put you in the rotation."
"Why not?” I ask.
“I’m not sure you could really shoot Peeta, if it came to it,” she says. I speak up so the whole squad can hear me clearly.
“I wouldn’t be shooting Peeta. He’s gone. Johanna’s right. It’d be just like shooting another of the Capitol’s mutts.” It feels good to say something horrible about him, out loud, in public, after all the humiliation I’ve felt since his return
So listen, hate your ships, it’s fine it’s a free world. Say “I hate Everthorne”, say “I love Everlark”, but do it based on the text and actual canon, because we can be here all night quoting books for miles until Thy Kingdom Come, and these are just few instances, I assure you there are more. I can talk to you about the time there are bombs falling around Katniss and Gale and they are fighting for their life, but Katniss is too distracted looking at his lips if you need more evidence of what canon actually says.
Don’t worry, I promise you that Everlark is still canon. The books won’t change if you acknowledge what they say and that they say that Gale is super important to her instead of choosing whatever it is that suits you.
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Having come across so many crazy Everlark fans and Peeta stans’ posts, I genuinely wonder whether mutts ate their brains too while they were reading the series and watching the movies. Where are your reading comprehension skills and basic politeness?
I mean, they just keep blaming Gale with the same tired clichés and never even bother listening to other people’s opinions.
I think I’ve finally gotten used to it since it's pretty common in every huge fandom😑
People tend to defend what they believe is right.
Thoughts on why I'm more drawn to Everthorne than Everlark in The Hunger Games
The first time I read the series was just after I watched the movie. (Actually I still havn’t read Mockingjay because I was spoiled about what happens and at the time wasn’t up for reading a book that would completely tear me apart.) From the movie alone I didn’t feel much for Katniss/Peeta but I did feel a HUGE spark between her and Gale in that small moment when she comes home and sees him with her family. It felt like there was more there between them in that one moment alone than there was in all of her and Peeta’s scenes combined… so that swayed me to already liking Gale for her more than Peeta. Then I read the books and was thrilled to see that her history with Gale actually went a lot deeper than the movie suggested. So then I was hooked and paid her relationship with Peeta very little attention, especially when Katniss kept thinking of Gale throughout all of the Games, leading the reader to believe that Gale’s feelings for her aren’t completely unrequited. Again, something that the movie wasn’t clearly able to portray except for the look they share at the end, as mentioned above.
I was very surprised to find out afterwards that my love for Gale seems to be a very unpopular opinion. Everyone loves Katniss with Peeta and I just don’t see it. My sister is very pro-Peeta and greatly dislikes Gale. My husband was the same when he read the books… even as early as the first book. Which I don’t understand at all! Am I missing something?
So I’ve decided to read through the series a second time (and actually read Mockingjay this time), and try to reasses why it is that I love Gale/Katniss so much and why I didn’t swoon like everyone else during the cave scenes. And now, knowing what I know about the ending, also give Peeta a fairly unbiased reevaluation.
First of all, I want to be very clear that this is not a post for bashing Peeta or Everlark… which is why I have no qualms about tagging it. In fact I encourage any Everlark shippers to enlighten me on what it is that makes their ship special to them, and why they dislike Gale or Everthorne… provided they can come up with something more intelligent than ‘Gale sucks! Peeniss forever!’ The more you can back up your opinions with quotes the better. I am always open for discussion when it comes to opposing opinions but I do ask that you remain respectful of my thoughts and ships and in return I will remain respectful of yours.
Second, this post will discuss the events of the first book only… I’ll likely make other posts for the other two books once I’ve re-read them. So any discussion that takes place after this post will also only be regarding the first book.
And thirdly, as I stated above I am going to try and be as unbiased as possible in my analysis of the Everthorne and Everlark moments. I will be focusing on what the author wrote and also a bit on the subtext that was written too. Because a lot of what goes through Katniss’ head is not cut and dry, there is a lot of subtlety when it comes to her emotions. So I try and delve into that a bit more too. But I’m not going to use arguments like 'They have so much more chemistry!’ because that is subjective and can not be backed up at all.
So lets get started!
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