LizardQueen27

[sleeplessfella]

they keep pushing the narrative that Rae is the funny one when Claire Frenchman who keeps assigning her gay crush to her classist beliefs is there

[stvrwish]

yuri huheeheheeeeee

[bastianfruit]

I need to find a skinny blonde girl fictional character to obsess over because I’m still obsessing over my ex and I shouldn’t be

[lizardqueen27]

I humbly nominate for your consideration: Claire François

[mary-philbin]

Carrie (2013) dir. Kimberly Peirce Carrie (1976) dir. Brian De Palma

[lizardqueen27]

What I really love about how 2013 does Chris's death (and something I wouldn't have picked up on until watching with the director's commentary), is that Carrie doesn't actually throw the car into the gas station. She just let's go of it. But Chris doesn't let go of her anger and hatred nor the gas pedel. In the end she is her own undoing.

[unseenacademic]

Having read and watched five different interviews with the cast of Carrie where they're all basically saying the same three sentences about their characters and the show over and over again--and the fact that Rahul Kohli couldn't even confirm which character he's playing on IG--got me thinking that they're not allowed to tell us anything more about the show. That's all we're going to get until October. Or at least, until the real trailer comes out.

Well, I think for Margaret, which I do think is one of the most different representations, I think what I loved is that she loves Carrie and that is where she starts from. And I think to get to--because even though we are telling--we're getting to the same point via a different path and I think that this path to see how Margaret gets where she's going starting in a different spot, starting with love, starting with fiercely protecting her, starting with wanting the best for her and to see how that mutates as the piece goes and how different things affect her choices and then lands her where she ends up. - Samantha Sloyan, an interview with the Carrie cast

I highlighted the bits I thought were important; the fact that they made Margaret and Carrie's relationship different won't change the tragic ending and it doesn't change that the fact that it's a story about abuse. Margaret might start off as a mother who loves her daughter, but that love will mutate (love Samantha's choice of the word there) into something toxic. I believe that Margaret's choice to keep her daughter locked inside their home for fifteen years without anyone knowing she even existed is extremely toxic and abusive, too. So, Margaret's character isn't fundamentally changed, she won't be the loving, caring mother of the year, she just starts off from a different point than her character in the book and she will tread a different path to get to the same point. In one of the interviews, the interviewer jokes with Samantha that Mike wrote the role of a crazy villain for her and not a single cast member corrects her, they all just laugh. Anyway, I don't think they are going to strip the show off the religious trauma and abuse, they are just trying to modernize the story.

Besides, if I described Beverly Keane as a zealously religious teacher who cares about her island and who is fiercely protective of the local priest, I wouldn't be wrong, technically.

[apeiron69]

God me and some friends are talking abt being dense af rn and i just remembered this one time i was shopping w my dad and i wanted to get rainbow shoelaces at the dr martins shop. And there was this punk girl, dyed hair face piercings rlly cute, behind the counter and like prince charming putting the shoe on cinderellas foot she offered to lace my gay shoelaces into my dr martins and i let her. “Wow what good customer service!”. And then in the car my DAD had to tell me that she was flirting with me a major L to gay people over the world

[apeiron69]

She was on her knees for me and everything and i noticed NOTHING im still so embarrassed good god

[apeiron69]

This world is so cruel

[lizardqueen27]

True story: Someone I had known for about a week and a half once basically said to me, "hey your birthday is coming up next week. Would you like to show me your favorite movie that you're always going on about and saying how much you like it and how gay it is?"

Did I realize that said invitation might not have been wholly platonic in time? Well, I'll keep that to myself (for now at least)...

[dragonettespaghetti]

I love you episcopal church.

[lizardqueen27]

@ Carrie White, got something important for you to hear

[lizardqueen27]

A really fun fact I think more people should know is that when Carrie 1976 was dubbed for Japanese television in 1980 Carrie White was voiced by Keiko Han (Luna from Sailor Moon). 33 years later when it was time for Carrie 2013 to get dubbed in Japanese, she would come back to voice Margaret while her real-life daughter, Megumi Han (Gon from 2011 Hunter x Hunter) would take on the role of Carrie.

[lizardqueen27]

I may have also gotten myself incredibly lost on the return trip from picking up the Japanese translation of the book

[lizardqueen27]

A really fun fact I think more people should know is that when Carrie 1976 was dubbed for Japanese television in 1980 Carrie White was voiced by Keiko Han (Luna from Sailor Moon). 33 years later when it was time for Carrie 2013 to get dubbed in Japanese, she would come back to voice Margaret while her real-life daughter, Megumi Han (Gon from 2011 Hunter x Hunter) would take on the role of Carrie.

[fierysword]

One of my few grievances with the Carrie TV series is that given the new direction with Margaret being more well-intentioned (but still abusive), we’re probably not going to get a book-accurate rain of stones scene in which Margaret is very violent and sadistic. That’s the main scene I kept mentioning as a counterexample when people insisted Carrie 1976 covered the whole story (as it’s such a pivotal scene that was left out)

[lizardqueen27]

This reminded me of how as much as I love the way Carrie 2013 opens and the way it parallels Margaret giving birth with the shower scene because both scenes are about women in pain who don't know what's happening with their bodies (also blood), I really wish they found a way to still incorporate the original beginning which was the rain of stones incident.

Also, for a film that goes through a lot of effort to decouple the creepy male gazey elements of 1976, the alternate opening has these lingering shots of the neighbors' upper legs...

BUT

those shots are from young Carrie's POV!!!! She's liked girls since she was like five!!!

[couldnt-think-of-a-funny-name]

can I just say as a fat woman previously a fat teenage girl who loves 'Carrie' (I've dressed as/played her multiple times and have seen all four previous adaptations multiple times) that uhhhh I really don't give a fuck if Carrie isn't fat in an adaptation. I agree fully that hollywood/our cultures obsession with thinness is bad and sinister don't get me wrong. but talking More about bodies (especially women's and young girl's bodies) is not the solution here. you have to acknowledge that constantly commenting on someone's body- even from a place of concern!- will not help them break free from an eating disorder or dysmorphia problem. it just eggs on an already endless cycle. this current Carrie coming out, we've only gotten a TEASER trailer of a young girl and all anyone wants to talk about is her body. IF she was a bigger girl, all the comments would be "finally! book accurate Carrie!" or praising body diversity and unconventional leads and like guys I'm so honest. if I was cast in a role and the whole internet was telling me I was book accurate and the description in the book is "fat and ugly". like I'm killing myself on live TV. what a fucking insane thing to say about a person!! so yeah I'm GLAD a young woman right now doesn't have to see millions of comments talking about how heavy she is. HOWEVER just because everyone's complaining that she's too pretty for a part right now doesn't change the fact she's being scrutinized for her looks. it's insidious! there's no fucking escape and I'm so tired of it. this is not me saying we can only have skinny and pretty people on screen don't you dare twist my words. my point is everyone just needs to SHUT UP. "body positivity" is STILL talking about someone's body/looks. just like how constantly talking about how ill a skinny person looks won't help them, constantly talking about a bigger body is still putting someone in a position where they have to hear everyone's opinions on their appearance! we are never going to fix the ozempic/heroin chic/diet culture we're stuck in by continuing to comment on other people's looks. it feeds into the cycle. we need body NEUTRALITY. an actor should be able to be cast and judged on performance alone. people should be able to go and read about celebrities they think they look like without developing any new insecurities bc some stranger online won't shut up about what they don't like about that celebs appearance. young girls should be able to exist without anyone else's opinions. BODIES SHOULD NEVER BE A FASHION OR POLITICAL STATEMENT. and I KNOW it seems like beyond impossible to ever achieve that and I'm just like ranting on a soapbox and some random tumblr user is going to misinterpret this post and claim I'm fatphobic or something dumb but like. I'm SO tired of this shit. and as I'm a fan of 'Carrie' the algorithm keeps pushing stuff at me on every website under the sun talking about the body of a young woman- as if her body alone will effect the writing and directing and performances- and it's nauseating. why can't anyone just exist neutrally. ugh.

[fierysword]

I think the new Carrie will still have the blood dump. A (poor quality) bts image posted on Twitter showed Summer wearing a bloody dress. The cast and crew’s chairs (which they posted on instagram) were smeared with fake blood and had the logo of a crown.

The article also said the series will maintain the story’s canon events. By “the events of that prom are going to be completely different” I’m thinking maybe the new character Emaline takes Carrie to prom, or something like that.

[lizardqueen27]

If that ends up being what happens, I think her rage and vengeance would work even better than if she went with Tommy. Because the blood dump wouldn't just be taking away the one time she was allowed to fit in, but quite possibly the one time she was allowed to be herself.

And if they went the route of the 2013 film where it's seemingly the bucket dropping on Tommy that kills him, just imagine if that happened with a character who (potentially) cared for her from the start (no shade to Tommy because I really think he's trying his best).

(Also if they go the full doomed yuri route with Emaline, then Chris and Billy just committed a hate crime)

[lizardqueen27]

I desperately need to know if the line "Sex with [the camp director] would be like fucking the mom from Carrie" was put in the screenplay for The Miseducation of Cameron Post before or after Chloë Grace Moretz was cast.

[lizardqueen27]

RIP Alternate Scene from Carrie 2013 where Chris and Tina actually kiss.

[lizardqueen27]

Susan D. Snell is the final boss of compulsory heterosexuality.

[lizardqueen27]

We know absolutely nothing about Emaline's actual role in the series nor who they are as a character and yet I've already had this idea of a fanfic where they're another outcast just like Carrie, and they recognize themself in her.

Also for some reason I've even come up for this backstory for them where for most of their life they were part of the same friend group and Sue and Chris but around freshman year of high school they realized they were queer and non-binary.

I could honestly restructure this other Carrie fic I started earlier this year to include them, and that honestly might help me write more of that thing.

[tyrantisterror]

One of the reasons I'll always stand by the 2013 Carrie remake is how it perfectly understands the psychology of a bully in the way few pieces of media do. The bullies in the original Carrie film adaptation, the one everyone praises, are cartoonish caricatures rather than real people, the all the interiority of Snidely Whiplash.

But in the 2013 movie you get to the scene where Chris Hargensen, the leader of the bullies, is brought into the principal's office and told that she'll not only be suspended, but banned from going to prom for how she and her pals bullied Carrie at the beginning of the movie, and the actress who plays her does this phenomenal job of conveying how, in Chris's mind, she's the victim. There's no cartoonish ranting or villainous monologuing, but rather a genuine outrage at a situation that she truly believes is unjust.

The actress and the movie both understand that in Chris's mind, she is entitled to torment Carrie - that her tormenting Carrie isn't just enjoyable, but a right that she has, a just and good thing for her to do because it the world is structured for her to do so, and that denying her that right is an injustice. The warped logic of the bully isn't "Haha I love being mean and evil," but rather, "When I hurt people, they deserve it and I deserve to enjoy doing it, because that is good and just."

And I think that's important because, like, we all have our Chris Hargensen moments. Every one of us has had a time where we felt entitled to be cruel, and recognizing that is important to being a better person. You can't let yourself fall into the trap of believing that your cruelty is always justified, or else Carrie is going to throw your car into a brick wall with you inside it.