[alittledizzy]

I think that this video /was/ him coming out. Disguised by him finding happiness. Like he was saying. To be happy he had to be true to himself and to he true to himself was to come out. And of course he did it in a very Dan way and made it offhand but lingered at the camera long enough for us to /know/.

I object to that because I object to the general idea that you have to have a coming out in order for it to be accepted that you aren’t straight. What makes this a coming out when all the other things wasn’t? Why is this a coming out when Dan literally saying in 2009 that he was bisexual wasn’t? Why is this a coming out when him talking about wanting to sleep with the male and female characters on ACS wasn’t? Why is this a coming out when Dan talking about watching anime for the male swimmer’s abs wasn’t? Why is this a coming out when his line about blurry sexuality in his diss track wasn’t? Why is this a coming out when picking male and female people in the Tinder video wasn’t? I could keep going for ages listing example, because Dan has been throwing this shit out there for years now. 

I mean, I get where you’re coming from, and I do agree that this was Dan doing something a bit more than he ever has before and in a very Dan way. But to say that this is his coming out means that you rejected everything he’s done previously as not enough to verify his non-straightness - none of which was all that subtle and all of which seemed to be Dan lowkey trying to say please tell me you get this please say you understand what I’m doing here because this is the way I’ve chosen to do this. And a lot of people get it - but it’s suffocating how many people don’t believe someone’s sexuality as non-straight until they file some official paperwork on it. Because it’s a reminder that most of the people in the world are going to require you to come out before they accept you, that you never get to just hint and have people take it in stride. That as a queer person you will always, for your entire life, have to endure either people defaulting you to heterosexuality or you’ll have to go through the exhausting, vulnerable, potentially dangerous process of clarifying in explicit terms unendingly. Which is a reality - like, that doesn’t stop because I say I don’t like it. But it’s still something I want to try to fight against in whatever spheres I have influence. 

[alittledizzy]

why does dan talking about sex make me so uncomfy asdfgtdfg I mean like I read smut fics but in my mind fictional dan and real dan are so separate just to think of him as an actual person having sex is weird to me. I think especially with the implication that he’s doing it with phil because like who tf else would he be having sex with??? This is a whole ramble sorry

I mean, the realistic answer is that it’s pretty common for closeted people and also famous people and especially closeted famous people to desexualize themselves because to be that open with an audience is to throw yourself to the wolves. For Dan and Phil specifically, it also seemed like a privacy measure; they wanted very intently for people to not be talking about them, and not cast any suspicions on the nature of their relationship, and the best way to do that was not give anyone anything to talk about across the board.  

And that’s a wall we’ve definitely seen crumbling down over the past few years in terms of them individually and within the past year in terms of the two of them, and their dynamic between each other. But it has been such a slow process that I can understand why some people still despite Dan’s third-person insinuations are jarred by him actively talking about his actual sex life.

Also yes. It’s definitely Phil, lmfao. 

[quicktoloveorhate]

“You’re the only one worth seeing

The only place worth being

The only bed worth sleeping’s

The one right next to you”

i felt like doing a small sketch of dong and pong cuddling sorry I’m such trash

[howelldaniel]

Dan’s birthday tweets to Phil over the years.

[lkn231]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY @amazingphil 🎉 I hope you have a wonderful day. Stay amazing 💙💙💙

[moonchair]

happy birthday @amazingphil ^__^

‘Anyway hope 2018 is treating you well and the world isn’t too messed up.’

[dnpsuck]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY @amazingphil! You inspire and bring happiness to everyone around you and all we wish wish is that we could give the same (and more) in return. Hope your 31st year of life is the best yet; full of new adventures and stories to live and share. I hope your days are filled with life changing experiences, excitement, joy and all the hugs and appreciation from your loved ones. Never stop being you, never stop being amazing. 💙 💙 💙

[amazingphil-isamazing]

Can someone explain to me...

How this adorable human being…

This goofball… 

And this gorgeous, sexy, gentleman…

ARE THE SAME PERSON!?!?!?

amazingphil 

[lkn231]

i’m absolutely loving burned out 💛

[lkn231]

[wip] WHISKERS ON THE HORIZON! 😼🙀 @danielhowell @amazingphil

[having-a-phan-attack]

When I say I love you more…

Inspired by this

[johnlockedits]

Insp. [x]

[boncasphan-deactivated20171218]

“I’ve spent the majority of 2016 with another person; Dan Howell!”

- Phil Lester, declaring his love for Daniel Howell at the BONCAs a year ago today on November 22nd, 2016.

[alittledizzy]

im serious....

what’s cherry…

Gotcha, just didn’t want to dig out the screencaps for someone who was joking! 

I mean, it’s basically a reference to cherry lube/them having sex. The fact that ‘cherry’ is kind of a phandom in joke is pretty mean considering how closeted they became and how much they probably don’t want to acknowledge being direct about something that had to do with their sex life. But for the sake of clarity, full explanation:

First and foremost, (this snippet) (that I’m not embedding for people who don’t want to see vday video related stuff) from the vday video is literally Phil talking about them being in bed together, with an illustration of them in just underwear followed by the caption “omg so much cherry everywhere.” 

But then Dan’s share of the fun came on formspring: 

That’s literally Phil asking him the last one - which references cherry and pina colada, which both happen to be flavors of Durex Play lube, which happens to also be a brand of lube Dan has mentioned having tasted before on twitter (Tingle is another Durex Play flavor). 

And is also the brand of lube you can see in Dan’s suitcase (link) at eighteen seconds into his ‘I’m a Mess’ video:

I think there’s also a tweet from Dan about cherry but the link I had to it is dead. If I recall correctly it was Dan tweeting about all he can smell is cherry, the same night he tweeted ‘Uma Thurman just watched me have sex’ at 2 am while at Phil’s house. yay thank you @autumn-in-phandom for supplying the tweet!

tl;dr in late 2009 Dan and Phil could really have used a crystal ball to look forward to a time when they maybe would regret keeping social media so up to date on their sex life.

[lovelesters]

[huphilpuffs]

coming 2018.

[johnman]

Is it true AmazingPhil and you are friends??? Have you met him??? That's so cool!

I’m going to take this ask as an opportunity to reflect on my friendship with Phil because I think he’s great so there. 

Phil was one of the first people I subscribed to wayyy back in 2006 and I think the first time we ever interacted was when we were on TheMysteryChannel together. The Mystery Channel was a cryptic immersion youtube game type thing and it’s where a LOT of the youtubers I’m still friends with are from! We still don’t know exactly who ran the channel but I have a feeeeling that it was either PJ or Doug…maybe. Zack and Meghan and Aubrey and Andrew were ALL on there so it’s actually part of the reason that VlogCandy ever existed. 

But anyway, the first time we met was in 2008 and it’s THIS VIDEO with Aubrey and Rachel (who was also on The Mystery Channel) that Phil currently has unlisted SO SORRY IF I’M EMBARASSING YOU but look at it it’s great. 

And if I haven’t laid it on thick enough, Phil is one of my favorite youtubers because it’s been 9 years and his videos are STILL just 100% authentically Phil. Like him and Dan made an app and instead of making it something that’s about them they just made a really fun game? Like two youtubers made an app and it wasn’t about youtube it was an app that could be fun whether you were subscribed to them or not and I think that means SO MUCH compared to what everyone else is doing. 

When I’m watching someone talk to a camera I like feeling like I actually know them or am seeing their true self, and a lot of that authenticity and relatability goes out the window for me when a youtuber does a lot of blatant product placement/pandering/all that junk. I think it’s okay to do those things because I know that ppl gotta hustle and make that money, it’s just not for me and I see a lot of popular youtubers doing it. So I just think it’s great that Phil (and Dan) are still able to make careers out of what they do by just being themselves and making things that are fun. 

So yeah Phil’s great they’re both great this got too mushy THAT IS ALL