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Must admit that one thing that changed the way I see fandom discourse is realizing that a lot of fandom is just… playing with dolls. We're playing with dolls. Shipping? Playing with dolls. AUs? Dolls. Darkfic? Dolls.

Lotta people very agitated about the other kids playing with dolls wrong.

edgebug

really good analogy because yknow what sometimes it CAN feel bad to see other kids playing dolls "wrong!" maybe you see them damaging or "hurting" their dolls and you hyper empathize, or you see them making modifications and you don't like them! and it makes you feel bad to see it!

fortunately, though, you don't have to watch! nobody is making you watch! and nobody's gonna take YOUR dolls from you. nobody can hurt your dolls, either! these dolls are an infinitely renewable resource. you can have your own iterations, that stay happy and healthy, forever! (and moreover, the dolls don't have real feelings, and cannot suffer!)

some types of stories about my favorite characters make me feel bad. so i don't read them! just like i don't watch youtube videos of people smashing toys

good post op

deepfrieddeltarunememes

i'm sorry what did Mr. Sans pretend he saw Kris and Susie doing

floweydal

It's kinda curious for me how, when Deltarune chapter 4 was released, almost everyone started attacking Toriel, arguing that she was negligent only 'cause she was dancing with Sans(?? That she was a bad mother and that became Sans's friend was an error because now she would pay less attention to Kris.

Some Deltarune chapter 5 spoilers! ⬇️

But, when Asgore started treating the 7 flowers in a bad way, like, no paying attention and only focusing in the things of the dark fountains (and the knight) everyone hasn't say anything?

I think it's very clear how the way he treated the flowers is an allegory of how he treated his family after the Dess disappearence. Being absent, leaving them behind (also I think that would be a reason of why Toriel divorced him)

It's a little sad how some part of the fandom attacked so quickly Toriel only for continuing her life and making new friends (or partner, we don't know what could happen between Sans and her) and don't recognized that Asgore isn't a perfect parent. He's more absent in Kris life, he also in a start take Kris ans Susie out of the dark world only because he was so focusing in waiting the knight.

Also, just to be clear. I'm not saying that Toriel it's also a perfect mother, she's also a bit absent in Kris life and it's kinda strange how she still didn't recognized that their child is acting strange. But Asgore should pay more attention to them. Focus in his child first and not in try to go back with Toriel.

Anyways, it's just my opinion. I actually love Asgore, he's very silly and cute. I adore how Toby Fox can create such complex character :3

acnologias-ass

You know that one photo of a little innocent lion cub and their mom looking menacing behind them? I feel like that's Wendy and Grandeeney

carlyraejepsans

thinks about sans stocking up toriel's fridge with groceries when just a few seconds later the game makes it explicit that she is Not doing well financially, she just hides it very well........... he may deserve some rights. that was cutes of him

limewatt

Sans filling up the fridge was really sweet actually. The benefits of your mother befriending the convenience store owner…

dukecarrion

you could be happy, raly!

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fuzzydeergirl

Ive gotta replay this part of the chapter again, but I think its really interesting that Asgore casts himself as Yellow and Toriel as Blue. Yellow is obsessed with justice and punishment, while Blue is the one who reels him back in. He relies on Blue to fix his own self hatred. This could have been what Asgore wanted from Toriel. When another person couldn't fix his depression, he doubles down on trying to solve the case and it inevitably leads to a divorce. Asgore decides the problem is lack of attention, and over compensates afterward the divorce which leads to him ignoring Toriel's boundaries.

(coughs) Sans on the other hand supports toriel, which is what she uh actually needs from a relationship. He cleans the fur out of the sink, takes out the trash, and restocks her fridge. Asgore is worried about Toriels lack of money but probably isnt paying child support if he cant make rent.

m3s99

btw this comic is no way to excuse both of them, there flawed characters in there own right, but heres how i interpret the scene, I imagine they both had a moment of "damn darn I messed up" also hearing toriel is struggling financially and sans restocked her fridge is making me happy, its really sweet, im sorry kris.

emzzy

The theory that 'Sans came to Undertale from Deltarune somehow' being confirmed is great but I'm more focused on the fact that it was confirmed that sans has been Like That (TM) this whole time and it's not just exclusive to Undertale.

He teleports around the festival, he warns Kris in the Weird Route, he's the one who convinced Toriel to stay home in ch4 instead of going to the church and possibly going into the dark world and getting kidnapped by the Knight. Susie says his house has only been there for a while and she can't remember what was there before. He makes sure to tell us that Papyrus (who ATP might not even be in DR at all) isn't at the festival, probably to protect him from the Knight because it now seems to just be grabbing anyone who gets caught in a dark World. HE GIVES SUSIE THE PUNCH CARD TO DRAW ON THAT HE BRINGS WITH HIM TO KEEP IN HIS SECRET LAB IN UNDERTALE AND CALLS IT A SOUVENIR FOR HIS BROTHER WHO BY ALL ACCOUNTS ONLY SEEMS TO EXIST IN UNDERTALE.

the reveal that Sand has ALWAYS known just a little bit more than he should and able to do things he reasonably shouldn't be able to is fascinating to me. He seems to be aware of Dark Worlds and the Knight, at least, enough to know they should be avoided. But does he know about the roaring that's going to happen? Does he know that he's going to end up in Undertale and that he won't be able to come back to DR which is why he gets Papyrus a 'Souvenir'? Because he knew Papyrus would never get to meet them? And i know i just implied that Sans' thing is separate from Papyrus but I'm going to refer to them as a pair from now on because I'm not big brained enough for that kind of theory.

Did they even originate from Deltarune? Susie's dialogue about Sans' house makes it seem like they just 'showed up one day' like they do in Undertale. are they from somewhere else? Are they just some kind of inter-dimensional refugees, constantly hopping from one reality to the next? Why? Are they running from something? Running to something? And why does it seem that their stuck in Undertale? If the broken machine in Sans' lab is what brought them there like we've been theorising, why did it break when they went to Undertale specifically? Was Gaster also travelling with them before he shattered across time and space? Did him shattering break the machine? Is the machine related to Gaster's Device? I know we'll probably never get direct answers about this because it conflicts with Sans' 'mysterious' vibes, but it's fun to speculate anyway.