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Scandal Reunion! Cast Vacationing Together in Mexico
REAL Power to the Rescue!
Although I’m still recovering from the painful blow to the gut Scandal’s finale served up good, I feel that I’ve been able to gain some clarity of the finale meaning. I’m still upset, but it is what it is, Shonda has spoken, so I’ll share my thoughts. Hopefully, some of you might share yours. I’ve been trying to figure out how to best organize my thoughts, so I guess I’ll start with my questioning what or where did Olivia exactly arrive to at the end of this journey Shonda talked so much about. I hope I can remember everything I want to touch on…
Among the many gripes I had with this episode is that I could not figure out what the result was of Olivia’s journey; what was so special about the end result that I wasn’t seeing? All that I was able to initially gather was that her father bailed her out of the huge mess she made in exposing B613, and she turns down Mellie’s offer to work for her in informing her that she doesn’t care to clean up other people’s messes any longer. She believes in Mellie’s ability to man the Oval on her own. When asked what she planned to do next, she responded, “Whatever I want.” A short time before, Olivia meets with Cyrus in the Oval to hand him resignation papers (which is weird since she is not an official employee any longer, so how’d she have the official power to fire the VP? I guess President Mellie just let her do this when you’d think she’d want to do the honors herself?). After all of this, Olivia goes on about her business to do whatever she wanted to do with her life. You see her strolling around D.C., visiting her father for dinner, walking to wherever it is she is traveling to, and running into Fitz along the way. Side note: It seemed to some she may have been meeting Fitz, but she wasn’t. She is looking forward traveling in her direction. She is about to pass up the vehicle that stops on the side, Fitz exits, causing her to stop for him. He says “Hi”, she says “Hi”. Anyway, so I couldn’t figure out the result of what I expected to be some grand destination for the great Olivia Pope, the star of Scandal. If it was that big daddy knows best in bailing her out of the grand mess, and finally understanding that her mother was right in encouraging her not to worry about cleaning up behind others, worry about HER own desires, then she could have come to that destination a season or two ago! But, this wasn’t the destination. Part of Rowan’s speech to Jake about real power:
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Interesting analysis! Very well thought out.
Thank you! Based on this, I realize that, as hard as it was to witness things play out, I’d rather have Jake in the background in the position he was in than in the foreground with all the others being saved. It’s this background where Scandal’s silent heroes reside; it’s where Shonda invested the heart of power. It shows how important Jake Ballard’s character is to Shonda, and I appreciate him even more.
OMG tell me olitz is not endgame...
Eh I mean i guess but they don’t go into detail they just leave them standing in front of each other with “Hi.Hi.” which technically can be taking a lot of ways…
Olivia is not even intending to meet Fitz outside, she runs into him. You can see that she is looking forward in her direction as she is about to pass up the truck Fitz exits, causing her to stop and look at him before passing it up. He says hi, she says hi, that’s it. It could mean anything, which is Shonda’s point. Olitzers can take it and create their own fantasy of an Olitz life, which is all they will ever get, since Shonda refused to give it to them concretely. They are so good at fantasizing about Vermont, babies, marriage and jam, so go to town! If Shonda wanted Olitz to be together, she would have written them together. She made it plain for Quinn & Charlie, Marcus & Mellie, and Abby & David; Shonda KNOWS how to write people unquestionably together, so if she wanted that for Olivia, she’d have given that to Olivia, ESPECIALLY since Jake is in jail! Nothing was stopping Olivia. Shonda established no commitment for Olivia, never had her put the ring back on, much less show it, didn‘t have her say I love you to Fitz in the finale or during S7 at all. Nothing. She wasn’t even meeting Fitz on her walk, but ran into him. They had sex in the finale after Olivia gave him a choice between being down in the dumps about jail or spending the time having sex, choose one, and there is nothing romantic about THAT! It’s clear that Shonda herself didn’t want Olivia in a committed Olitz relationship, but she did give Olitzers something to create their own fantasies from, which they will. She gave Olake substance in a beautiful brief conversation between them, but then, Olake always had a lot of meat to support more. Olitz had sex and “Hi”, but that’s what the Olitzers like. Take off your clothes, sex, and hi. They never wanted reality, but passion and fantasy, so they didn’t get reality, which is where commitment comes in. Shonda ain’t bout all that fantasy stuff! Olitzers want Vermont, babies, googly eyed Olivia, and jam, so the the burden is on Olitzers to create the fantasy in their own minds. Here is your “hi”, use your imagination to build from there.
REAL Power to the Rescue!
Although I’m still recovering from the painful blow to the gut Scandal’s finale served up good, I feel that I’ve been able to gain some clarity of the finale meaning. I’m still upset, but it is what it is, Shonda has spoken, so I’ll share my thoughts. Hopefully, some of you might share yours. I’ve been trying to figure out how to best organize my thoughts, so I guess I’ll start with my questioning what or where did Olivia exactly arrive to at the end of this journey Shonda talked so much about. I hope I can remember everything I want to touch on…
Among the many gripes I had with this episode is that I could not figure out what the result was of Olivia’s journey; what was so special about the end result that I wasn’t seeing? All that I was able to initially gather was that her father bailed her out of the huge mess she made in exposing B613, and she turns down Mellie’s offer to work for her in informing her that she doesn’t care to clean up other people’s messes any longer. She believes in Mellie’s ability to man the Oval on her own. When asked what she planned to do next, she responded, “Whatever I want.” A short time before, Olivia meets with Cyrus in the Oval to hand him resignation papers (which is weird since she is not an official employee any longer, so how’d she have the official power to fire the VP? I guess President Mellie just let her do this when you’d think she’d want to do the honors herself?). After all of this, Olivia goes on about her business to do whatever she wanted to do with her life. You see her strolling around D.C., visiting her father for dinner, walking to wherever it is she is traveling to, and running into Fitz along the way. Side note: It seemed to some she may have been meeting Fitz, but she wasn’t. She is looking forward traveling in her direction. She is about to pass up the vehicle that stops on the side, Fitz exits, causing her to stop for him. He says “Hi”, she says “Hi”. Anyway, so I couldn’t figure out the result of what I expected to be some grand destination for the great Olivia Pope, the star of Scandal. If it was that big daddy knows best in bailing her out of the grand mess, and finally understanding that her mother was right in encouraging her not to worry about cleaning up behind others, worry about HER own desires, then she could have come to that destination a season or two ago! But, this wasn’t the destination. Part of Rowan’s speech to Jake about real power:
We really don't know what is going to happen in the finale. There is an entire episode left where all things are coming to light...
#I COULD FEEL THIS SHIT #HE FINDS A DIFFERENT WAY TO SAY HE LOVES HER EVERY TIME #AND EACH TIME #IS BETTER THAN THE LAST #LIKE HOW DO YOU??!! #IF THEY WERE TO EVER GET MARRIED COULD YOU IMAGINE HIS DAMN VOWS #THE WHOLE PLACE WOULD BE IN TEARS #SHIT #I COULD FEEL HIS WANT FOR HER AND HE WASN’T EVEN MOVING OR TOUCHING HER
I hope Olivia can reach him and save him. His soul and his love is worth it, just as much as the others. If anybody can, Liv can.
I know you’re angry Jake
I know you want blood and so do I
But that’s not who we are
That’s for people who live their lives in the darkness
There were a lot if great scenes in Episode 5x18. This snippet is one of my faves.
His sigh before he says wanting you…
I am never going to be over this episode. 😢
Oh Jake, my precious bae, Olivia has always chosen you. In Mrs. Smith Goes to Washington, she chose you. In the Price of Free and Fair Elections, she chose to stand in the sun with you. In an Innocent man, she gave Fitz “hope” to save your life. In Baby Made A Mess, She forced Fitz to ensure your well being and safety while in custody and chose you over her father, Rowan. In the Last Supper, she had someone stab Tom and mindphucked him to get him to confess to the killing Fitz’ son. In the Last Supper, she joined you and Fitz in an attempt to take down Rowan. When its mattered, Olivia has always chosen you over everyone else. In Til Death Do Us part, she chose your life over her happiness. You are her one and only weakness.
And in “You Can’t Take Command” she signed those recant papers real quick when Jake was threatened, even though she was still ready to throw Fitz under the bus with Remington. See, this is why the party line that Olivia’s “love” for Fitz trumped all is superficial and naive and beside the point. It’s like, Ok, but what has she done to actually display all this love she had for him? Besides constantly walking away from him, constantly tossing him back at his wife, making him impregnate said wife, kissing Jake at times when she was supposedly “with” him, and forever getting up in his face when she’s advocating for Jake’s life or safety, his feelings be damned? Her relationship with Fitz wasn’t a choice, it was a tether. A tether that she finally snapped.
Hope and sex! She continues to dangle that in front of Fitz for use of his power and resources, something he cuts off access to when he can’t have her. She doesn’t have to state there is hope; he has it in her being away from the WH and out of Command, not to mention all up in his institute working out of there. After burying Quinn and being at emotional rock bottom, Fitz was a much needed relief/vacation from her misery and bold reality of her life. I’ve always perceived him as the vacation from her reality; the “one minute”. She wants no commitment. Lets also throw in here with your listing out the ways Oliva has actively chosen Jake, the time she chose Jake’s life over her own father’s life! When the pseudo doctor demanded that Olivia meet his demands in getting his friend off the hook with her Russian handler, and the handler refused her offers, she offered up her father’s life to save Jake. She told Fitz that she’d never chose her him over her father, ever.
Fitz is pathetic! How do you come down on a man about spying on a woman when you ordered him to spy by lying to him? He deserves nothing of Olivia Pope. Truthfully, however, Fitz is guilty of his own accusation of Jake since he was the creep who misappropriated a human government resource by lying to violate a woman. Does he ever feel ashamed of the many times he has violated her?
LMAO 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Command Olivia Pope?
I’ve had puzzle pieces that I’ve been trying to fit together for a while, some I forgot about until someone else's post on another site jogged my memory, but I think I might finally have some kind of understanding of Olivia’s efforts and end goal. Hopefully, I'm not wasting words and it all makes sense.
First of all, the Peus/Ponytail arc helped me to understand that there are essentially two elections that take place in the Scandal world: 1. the theatrics election for public office where such public positions as president and vice president are chosen. The public representatives of government. 2. The power “election” where power is chosen in the form of Command. The real power of government is not in plain sight, but functions quietly behind the scenes to fuel, support, protect, and maintain the positions of the public faces. Also, the race to the seats on both sides are quite different, where the underlying jungles race bare fangs and claws, and is vicious and deadly. It’s the ways of the jungle of power. The seat of power has to be earned by taking it by force from its occupier and other competitors.
There’s one thing I enjoyed about this episode: the fabolous coffee ice cream I was saving for the finale. I did not eat the whole can, but it sure as hell was one red, underlined chubby plus.
Not to mention: the more they try to show–and shove at us– how olitz works and olake has been long buried (in a matter of episodes with the most hazarded writing I’ve seen in a while) the more easy it is for me to spot how untrue and forced it feels.
I cannot deny that I’m speaking out of a preference I have, but I can’t shake the feeling that this is not the course the characters were meant to pursue, either; call me crazy, I just can’t.
Side note: Scott’s acting skills? TERRIFIC. I STILL HAVE CHILLS
Olivia Pope Appreciation: 05.09 Baby, It’s Cold Outside
She was so happy leaving Olitz and getting out of that WH, she put up a Christmas tree; a woman who doesn’t like Christmas decorations. That’s one bright tree!