Man, the whole thing with Yoichi and Kudou parting ways is a bit more heartbreaking if you consider the fact that just moments before, Yoichi had to deal with the death of his brother.
Despite everything that he has done, despite everything that has happened, Yoichi still loved his brother. Even though his brother was cruel, he still acknowledges that AFO took care of him when there was no one else. All they had was each other.
His anger in ch 193 wasn't done out of hate, but concern for his brother. Like how a loved one would get angry when they recognize you doing something that isn't good for your well-being.
Nana and Yoichi are in the same position, both having their close relatives on the villain side, but while Tenko has the hope of being saved, AFO is far gone. And while Yoichi has long accepted this, that doesn't mean he won't be affected by the loss of his brother.
We saw Yoichi's expression when AFO gets defeated. People talk about it being a "bombastic side eye", but to me, it's more so sorrowful.
Not long afterwards, we have Yoichi talk like this:
"Don't cling to sentimentality"
"Bringing down Tomura Shigaraki is our reason for still existing"
Yoichi was silently trying to process his brother's death here. Alone. Not even Kudou knows.
And not long after the death of your only family, you're forced to say goodbye to the one person who would still be there for you after all that? The very first person who valued you as a fellow human being?
Damn, I'd break down and cry too.
On a side note, some people are unhappy that the OFA Users are often calling the shots here. But am I the only one who noticed that Yoichi's the only one who doesn't do this at all?
Yoichi's the one who interacted with Midoriya the least. He's the only OFA User who actually doesn't tell Midoriya what to do. The only times he came out to interact with him was whenever he feels like Midoriya's life could be in danger, or that time when he tried to reassure him in Ch 193.
Even when trying to cope with his brother's death, starting to give up on the whole "saving" thing, he never really came out to talk to Midoriya to try to change his mind. He's only in the OFA space the entire time with the other users.
Yoichi doesn't say anything cause he just trusts Midoriya to make the calls. (Hence his "this fight has long been passed to the successors") But he also trusts the other users, so he lets them do their thing.
He's also the one who humanises Tomura, calling him a "successor" like Midoriya, making him an equal. En later calls him out on this, saying the opposite.
Yoichi's the best OFA vestige and he deserves the entire world. Gives this man a darn break. T_T
Originally, this post was supposed to be a response to another post about 411 (Yes, I'm late), about why Yoichi might be oddly calm when Shinomori was stolen. This post itself was also going to be more of a continuation of my previous post about the true nature of One For All and All For One.
But while thinking of this post, I may have went into a deep rabbit hole and uncovered the ending of My Hero Academia, how Midoriya might save Tenko and defeat All For One.
Okay, so buckle your seatbelts, this might be one of the craziest theories yet-
The other post by @shiroforest in which this post was going to be a response to was actually more of a DFO post. The usual, Yoichi hiding a secret that Midoriya has AFO or something.
I'd like to say that they may have been right. Well, half right. Midoriya DOES have All For One. Not in the way you might think.
One For All IS the same as All For One. I made this post all about this subject, that Yoichi and AFO were most likely identical twins, and since quirks are genetic, they were supposed to have the same quirk. But due to TTTS, Yoichi's quirk couldnt develop properly, thus manifesting differently from All For One
ThIs seems to have aged really well in the following chapter:
Essentially, Yoichi's quirk was just a half-baked version of All For One. It also explains why it was able to merge easily with an entirely different quirk (Stockpile). Since Yoichi's quirk was half-baked and incomplete, it was much easier for it to adapt and merge into another quirk entirely (If Yoichi's quirk was fully formed, it would've stayed seperate)
Okay, so OFA was AFO but incomplete. How does this factor in with that panel of Yoichi, or MHA's endgame?
Well, it was incomplete.
This started changing 200 chapters ago. Where, according to Banjo, it started growing. The metaphor used is very interesting now we know OFA's circumstances.
Apparently in the original Japanese text, the metaphor used is just like an unborn child, growing and kicking in the womb.
And we know that OFA was underdeveloped because Yoichi was deprived of the nutrients to fully mature before birth.
OFA, from the beginning of Ch 193, has actually resumed its development process. Finishing off where it left off, and started growing as it matured.
The time it made contact with All For One in ch 287 must've quickened the process. After that event, the OFA Users managed to finally come out and communicate with Midoriya directly.
Remember what I said about how OFA was supposed to be the same as AFO, just halted during the development process?
Yes, you heard me right.
Midoriya and Shigaraki are fighting with the same quirk right now.
Horikoshi likes to put double meaning in his panels. If a speech bubble is displayed on an unrelated character, that means Horikoshi wants us to see a connection with what's being said to this other character
Yoichi is looking at his hand, which is actually also the exact same hand in which he passed on OFA to Kudo before his death. His power of giving, juxtaposed with the mention of the power of stealing by En.
There is a chance that Yoichi might've been thinking about what to do with the situation, he could be thinking of taking Shinomori back, or just speculating about what he can really do. Either way, it's actually foreshadowing. That Yoichi might be able to take just as much as give.
Perhaps, at this point of the story, One For All is already fully complete. Because Midoriya can now seemingly just throw or give away the quirks stored in OFA the exact same way AFO can give away quirks in his disposal as of the newest chapter, ch 413. Without the old complicated process beforehand of consuming DNA or something. (Watch this age horribly next chapter, but I think that's what will happen)
The only thing that's missing now is the trigger. All thats left is for Midoriya to instinctively think of "taking" to trigger the ability at this point.
But what would trigger Midoriya into taking?
Perhaps, to save a life.
I think it's clear that Horikoshi is currently using quirks as a representation for a person's heart and soul. After all, they are also called "individuality".
Even though AFO uses his power in cruel ways, Yoichi says that the power to "give and take" could have been the "kindest" power in the whole world. He's referring to both here, "taking" can be just as kind as "giving".
Maybe this power can save just as much as destroy.
As of Ch 413, Kudo makes a plan with Midoriya to basically fire OFA's quirks at Shigaraki to free Tenko Shimura, the child.
But what happens when Tenko is free? There is a chance he might be vulnerable to AFO (his abuser) and Tomura Shigaraki (the two are constantly seperated in the narrative)
Both might want to destroy Tenko, especially the former. Midoriya, out of desperation to try and save the crying child, might unlock OFA's "taking" ability, getting the child away from AFO's grasp. This probs has to happen right before Midoriya gets ready to throw One For All.
I think this might also be the part where the door of OFA gets unlocked. It's a back-door, a way in and out. The hand in which Tomura grabbed the Shinomori was OVER where the door is supposed to be.
When Midoriya unlocks the ability to take, the door might be opened in which Midoriya and maybe even Yoichi save Tenko and bring him into the OFA space.
Rather than a forceful "take" like AFO does, it's presented as a choice. Tenko is given the choice in which he can come with Midoriya or stay where he is now. Because saving is a two way street.
Since heart = quirk, having Tenko might also take away Decay, which would also prevent the incoming mass destruction.
(Make this more heartbreaking if Nana was already taken at this point by AFO, and she's the one trying to protect Tenko long enough till Midoriya and Yoichi take him away. They also try to save Nana but are unable to, Nana apologising for not being there for Tenko and asks them to take care of her grandson, argghhh-)
Here's a scenario of how I think it might all go down:
When Tenko is saved, this leaves Midoriya vs AFO and Tomura, desperate to get Decay back and OFA. Midoriya desperately tries to defend Tenko. Tenko, now in the OFA space, sees Midoriya's genuine desire to protect him, something he was desperate wished for.
This eventually fails, and ShigarAFO gets the opportunity to steal OFA and Tenko a few times, perhaps losing the remaining vestiges until only Yoichi and Tenko are left. Finally having enough, Tenko ends up intervening, and decays the hand that was reaching into the OFA space.
Its a perfect callback to the times Midoriya has saved before. Not only does Midoriya save people no matter what, his actions would in turn also inspire others to act too. He saved Eri, and so her power later saved him. He saved Kota, and Kota then used his quirk to protect Midoriya. It's perfect, because Tenko Shimura is the combination of both characters.
Remember how the quirks in OFA were enhanced due to stockpile?
Tenko, while defending Midoriya and OFA, also ends up decaying a portion of AFO's quirks as a result of being enhanced by OFA.
So this leads to Tenko suggesting he goes back in there to destroy AFO and his quirks from within.
Yoichi is unsure at first, since Star also tried the same thing, she eventually got destroyed before she managed to destroy all the other quirks. So the only way for Tenko to be successful is for OFA to go with him, so it could be strong enough to destroy it all at once before Tenko is destroyed.
This could also lead to OFA being destroyed too, Yoichi holding back his brother long enough when only OFA and AFO are what's left to keep him away from Tenko, allowing him to finish it all off once and for all. There's a good chance Tenko won't make it out either. In a sense, Tenko Shimura fulfills his dream that he was denied of all his life and dies a hero.
This is the big moment in which Midoriya has to prove whether he is the same as those in Tenko's family (denying him), or be someone who can finally give him the words that he always yearned for, the validation that "You can be a hero".
Midoriya's final test is letting someone go.
Maybe this isnt just the closure Tenko needs, but for all three of them (Yoichi, Midoriya, Tenko). These three were the ones denied of becoming heroes one way or another, finally being given the chance.
It's a triple sacrifice.
Horikoshi planned this from the start, Ch 193 and onwards were all build up towards this very moment. Bakugo noting that OFA being the same as AFO almost 200 chapters wasn't just some observation or symbolic parallel, it was set up. Because the two are one and the same, and it's the very key to Midoriya's goal in saving Tenko Shimura.
I know, some might not agree, it might even be controversial because of how similar this is to AFO, but I'd like to say that it might not be like that.
A big theme in MHA is how one's quirk, personality, or nature isn't all that makes a person a villain or a hero, it's also the nurture and how they use it. A power used for "destruction" can also be used for "salvation". The power that can be used in the most cruellest ways can also be the kindest. This applies to both All For One (in the form of One For All) and Tenko's decay.
I don't know, what do you think? Crazy? I would agree that Horikoshi is crazy if this happens to be accurate-
Yoichi and All For One are IDENTICAL TWINS (and what it means...)
Okay, I know this acc has kinda been dead for over a year or two by now and I haven't exactly caught up with MHA, I only started reading the last 3-4 chapters, and I wasn't planning to revive this acc after being inactive for so long, but I discovered something that I CAN'T keep quiet about.
In the newest chapter, further detail on Yoichi and AFO's backstory is revealed (Yes! The chapter I've been waiting for!), and surprisingly, AFO and Yoichi are TWINS! I think very few people really thought of the concept, so it was unexpected in general.
I assumed they're fraternal twins, because while they're twins, the anime showed them having different eye colors... (Yoichi has green eyes and AFO has red eyes)
...Until I realised that isn't actually possible.
Because TTTS (twin to twin transfusion), can only occur in IDENTICAL TWINS.
In other words, yes, Yoichi and AFO aren't just twins, they're IDENTICAL TWINS. Anime may be wrong about eye colors again (like how they were for Iida's).
And while it's both unexpected and funny to think about all this (I mean, c'mon, that means Yoichi could've had the exact same face as his brother-), a lot of people may have missed the very BIG implication that this has.
Remember, identical twins share the exact same genetic makeup. After all, they are basically what should've been one person but got split into two somewhere in the early process.
But aren't y'all forgetting...
...that QUIRKS are also genetic?
If AFO and Yoichi are identical twins the entire time, with the EXACT SAME GENETICS, then that would mean that the quirks they have, would be identical as well. Because quirks are also genetic.
All For One and One For All are the SAME QUIRK by nature.
You may be wondering, "if they're the same quirk, why do they seem to function differently?" Yes, OFA can pass itself on, AFO can't, etc.
Well, while they are identical twins, they did suffer through TTTS, with Yoichi as the donor twin.
This probably messed a lot with Yoichi's development, and thus, his quirk. After all, while identical twins, are well, identical, a lot of factors can change how their genetics are expressed (some are expressed more than others). TTTS would've been a big one for AFO and Yoichi.
Notice when looking at OFA's functions (minus the stockpile), it's a significantly weaker version of AFO? AFO can just take and give through close contact with another person. For the transfer to even work for Yoichi, he has to transfer through DNA (blood, or eating hair??), and the only way it can even store quirks if said person inherited the quirk and passed it on like hot potato. I wouldn't even be surprised if Yoichi's quirk could only story a certain number of quirks.
The functions of Yoichi's original quirk got so messed up, it had to evolve into being able to pass itself on for it to even function itself. So much so that literally no one realised he had a quirk, maybe even Yoichi himself until after his death.(Im in the camp that Yoichi died passing on the quirk and it was Kudou who discovered the transfer ability and made the plan to defeat AFO)
So yeah, Bakugo was correct about OFA being the same as AFO all along. Except he was wrong about it being due to AFO creating OFA. It's actually because the original quirk holders were identical twins, meaning the quirks they have would also be identical. But things happened, which caused the quirks to work differently from each other.
EDIT: As another addition to this post, this also explains why OFA and AFO are so intricately linked, that the two users can start seeing into the other's vestige realm. To the point that when they both come into contact, it merges their vestige plains into one. Or perhaps, it's actually two quirks temporarily merging into one.
Since identical twins are basically one split into two, then two identical quirks having contact with each other is the same as two merging back into one again.
with the direction izuku is going story wise - not listening to mentors/peers, focused heavily on victory, being reckless and putting himself in danger trying to win on his own - it very much so reminds me of earlier Katsuki. i’m heavily interested more so than ever in your pending “Katsuki is always right” meta, because i’m for sure that this is gonna be important (as well as tying into your meta about how the narrative punishes izuku’s imitation of allmight and rewards his imitation/inspiration from Katsuki) since he’s going against what Katsuki said before they got separated (“stop trying to win this on your own!”) and is parading around in his allmight-like mask trying to be a singular hope for people like he was. i expect him to fail, HARD, and i’m expecting katsuki to be there when he’s at his lowest, transitioning into deku vs kacchan 3 (and maybe even a parallel from katsuki’s origin where deku reminded bakugou of who he is and to stop being stupid)
Well, for reference, the “Katsuki is always right” meta will deal heavily with literalism and how the audience makes incorrect assumptions and conclusions all the time. For instance, Katsuki is always literally right when he calls other people extras. But most importantly, he’s always right with his strategies, even though it sounds like he isn’t, like when he decides to take down Kurogiri at the USJ or face All Might head-on in the final exam or--and I’m serious--fight the elementary schoolers during provisional license training. But there is a bit more to it all than just that. Tone plays a huge rule in our misconceptions, like when his team asks him to calm down vs. Monoma at the sports festival and Katsuki responds, “I am calm.” It seems like a joke because he’s drawn as if he’s positively seething, but then...his following actions are level-headed and smart, even if he’s growling through it. He’s got control of what looks to us like unbridled rage (something Izuku could really use a lesson in, as we see with the explosive release of Blackwhip).
But you kind of touched on something there that goes into something I’ve been pondering over for a while and just refined in conversation today.
Izuku seems to be more and more Katsuki-esque recently, and it’s not coming across well at all. I’ve seen some takes I frankly couldn’t disagree more with lately, that Izuku’s multiple quirks make him so OP that he’s way out of Katsuki’s league in battle now. It really illustrates how little people pick up about Katsuki because a lot of this is subtle or not spelled out. So I’m going to do it now.
Izuku’s new quirks are putting him closer to Katsuki, not high above.
There’s one thing that makes me understand why people don’t get this, and that’s Katsuki’s little monologue in the war arc about “barely keeping up,” but he was referring to their speeds (and Katsuki subsequently gets a speed boost in the same arc). These new quirks Izuku keeps unlocking...in almost every case, they are matching Katsuki’s abilities, not giving Izuku new edges Katsuki doesn’t have.
If you think about what OFA’s quirks do functionally, here is how they match up to Katsuki’s combat traits:
Fa Jin = power storage grenade gauntlets
Danger Sense = lightning-fast reflexes
Blackwhip = ?????
Smokescreen = smokescreen, literally, Katsuki uses one against Izuku in their very first fight at Ground Beta as well as against Ochako at the sports festival
Float = flight with propulsion by explosions
Blackwhip is the only one (so far) that’s different...or that I can’t currently think of an equivalent for. Will there ever be an equivalent? I don’t know. But it is notably the only exception to this phenomenon. (There is also a conspicuously missing counterpart for Katsuki’s stun grenade. Light quirk, anyone?)
So here’s the second dot I connected.
I’ve always wondered why Horikoshi named him Katsuki and not Masaru (his father’s name). Masaru means “victory.” Katsuki means “self-victory.” Why go the extra step to include “self” in the meaning of Katsuki’s given name?
Katsuki needs to defeat himself.
What, like, get over himself? Overcome his past mistakes? Become a better person? Don’t get in his own way?
Well, yes that too, but...
If Izuku comes to resemble Katsuki in combat power, skills, and capability...
...Katsuki’s going to have to come up with a strategy to literally fight himself (read as: Izuku).
Theory: OFA quirk is a way for AFO to gradually create a strong quirk; but also a way for him to bring his brother’s consciousness into a new body. Now they can both be young again. :)
Because too many people forget that Midoriya is smart so that tag is like a beacon of hope for readers desperate to see our boy with his canon intelligence?
Oh okay, lemme wax poetic some more for the Izuku Loving Hours
1. Quirkless Izuku who remembers all the pages of his Hero notes and applies them on the spot despite, you know, having minimal resources to actually replicate a move (like for Kamui Woods’ Lacquered Chain Prison). He takes a concept, gets inspired, and makes it his own
2. Izuku applying physics during the USJ arc by aiming his Delaware Smash at the water to create a whirlpool that’ll suck the water villains in
3. MY FAVORITE and what made me really start cheering him on at full throttle: Izuku winning the Obstacle Race during the Sportsfest with a boom and a BAM and without using his quirk! Sees what’s available around and knocks it out of the park. He realizes that the metal from the robots is hella durable and takes one with him, which is a GREAT choice as it enabled him to pull off his two final maneuvers. Just…Present Mic screaming “CLASS 1A MIDORIYAAAA” and all the students below seeing Izuku in the sky, rocketing to victory….
4. Izuku assembling his team for the Cavalry Battle. He was at a disadvantage, he doesn’t have the luxury of Best Picks. Doesn’t stop him from having a badass team that is capable of taking to the skies and having an all-around defense
5. He processes the weaknesses of a quirk fast. Like the limits of Stain’s paralyzing quirk, when after getting it used on him, Izuku immediately offered three options and discovered the answer via further process of elimination
6. Just Umbrella Catch-All Bullet point here for Izuku coming up with plans on the spot and under pressure. Boi rarely loses his cool tbh when in battle mode, especially when his teammates actually work and plan with him
7. Memorized Gentle Criminal’s trampolines while still in midair. He’s quite good at memorizing (I mean, he could list at least a thousand hero facts about All Might and other Pros off the top his head), and part of me is inclined to believe he actually has eidetic memory
8. Applies the concept of the Paddle Ball against Shigaraki during the War Arc
9. He’s not just smart, he’s also creative, guys. Like using Blackwhip as a tongue extension. Like…wtf
10. To elaborate on the above about Lady Nagant, Izuku applies math while getting shot at. It’s dark, and he has to locate where the assassin is. He’s aware that the Lady has a 3 km limit, and he’s very much within that range. He has two clues: the direction from where the first bullet has come from, and from where the curve bullet came from. And just by doing some quick mental maths, he knows where she is.
This is just the surface of it. I haven’t even discussed about his emotional intelligence yet
I’m so glad that everyone is like “WOAH HE MENTALLY CALCULATED THE LADY’S POSITION WHILE GETTING SHOT AT + IN THE DARK + WHILE IT’S HEAVILY RAINING + UNDER PRESSURE TO SURVIVE + USING STOCK KNOWLEDGE VIA SNIPE’S OLD INTERVIEW AND THE TRAJECTORY OF TWO(2) BULLETS!!” Yeah me too. You know who else might’ve?
!!! :D ^At this time, Izuku’s final answer was a bit off the mark, but I’m sure Ectoplasm would’ve been happy to know that Izuku’s intense efforts in training his brain into doing quick mental maths in a snap has been rather successful and it shows ;; <3
Midoriya, even when he's on a rampage, is always, and I mean ALWAYS thinking. Even when it seems he seemed to be full of rage and appears to be losing control, Midoriya is ALWAYS using his head. Best examples of this is the Shigaraki and Overhaul.
Oh yeah, don't forget that perfect strategy to save Bakugo without getting involved on the field. EVEN ALL FOR ONE WAS IMPRESSED BY IT.
Midoriya is just ✨brilliant✨ and it's sad that not many people give him recognition for it. As Gran Torino said, he's a monster. His thinking capacity combined with his super strength AND other quirks as well makes him a scary opponent to fight.
I just had this dumb idea the previous night regarding Dad For One.
All For One, if he is indeed Midoriya's father, seems to try real hard not to outright admit or reveal his connections to him. He always seemed more conflicted and hesitant when it comes to the boy.
Which begs the question, how will Dad For One be revealed if AFO himself doesn't even want to reveal it to others? Well, there's 4 options.
All For One blurts it out by accident when he loses control of his emotions.
All For One reveals it as a last resort to stop Midoriya/All Might
They just find out through some drawing/recording/files. (the most boring one to me, PLEASE don't make it this one)
All For One doesn't reveal it. Tomura does.
Fourth option is the idea I had last night. What if Tomura Shigaraki himself finds out now that he himself is linked to All For One and then later reveals it when he takes back control?
I mean, we know that the vestiges of One For All are in sync with Midoriya's emotions and are kinda aware of what's going on around him.
What if the same case also goes for Tomura, whose consciousness is at the backseat atm?
What if through this link, Tomura starts figuring out about All For One's connection with Midoriya, then when he momentarily takes control of his body while in a confrontation with All Might or Midoriya, he just reveals everything about it?
All For One doing the reveal? Oh yeah, AFO seems to be intentionally written to appear loke your typical cliche villain but with twists that makes him work well, and him doing the dad reveal also fits that theme.
But Shigaraki Tomura doing the dad reveal? Ohhhh boyyyy, that's just gonna set this whole fandom on FIRE and INCLUDING THE DFO THEORISTS, OH GOD. IT'LL BE GLORIOUS.
You have two boys who have been together since they were children.
One was born with incredible power, one was born weak.
One had to work for a power they were given without really knowing what it was or how to use it properly, the other was naturally gifted with the power they were born with.
One saw people as nothing more than tools or pawns to be used to get ahead, the other tried to increase their strength by connecting with other people.
One hated the other with all their might and wanted to defeat them by their own hand, the other continuously reached out a hand to try and make peace with them and offer cooperation and reconciliation no matter how many times they were attacked or hated.
Am I talking about All For One and One For All, or Izuku and Bakugou?
Is... no one seriously gonna be talking about the fact that the First User's eyes in the newest episode of the Anime are shown to be BRIGHT GREEN? Like, why is no one talking about it AT ALL???
It's not just any bright green BUT THE SAME BRIGHT GREEN AS MIDORIYA'S EYES WHEN HE USES ONE FOR ALL.
I MEAN, LOOK AT THIS
YOU CAN'T TELL ME THAT THEY'RE NOT THE SAME.
In the OP, First's eyes are shown to green, eerily similar to Midoriya's. Now, they're highlighted as bright green, same color as Midoriya when using OFA, but also in the vestige world. Could be an indication that he's kinda using OFA in a similar sense, to probably recreate the past with the vestige world.
You can't tell me that there's no connection between those two-
BNHA is a series that really loves foils and parallels. This is an understandable love, because it’s a cool concept, and it’s generally agreed BNHA does it in cool ways. The way the villain trio each foil one of the main UA students, or Endeavor & his family and Ujiko & his Nomu, Izuku again and Shinsou…Hawks & Twice I guess.
But one that I think is really cool, yet doesn’t really get brought into discussion a whole lot, is All Might & Shigaraki; because those two actually have a lot of interesting similarities. So having notices their similarities, it seems only fair to compare and contrast them. It is my duty as a BNHA meta writer after all. So join me, and let’s go over what cool things these guys have in common.
How plausible do you think the Dad For One Theory is?
Well, I think it's very plausible! In fact, I'm kinda in for it. (which is clear if you've seen all my reblogs)
I feel like there's some very subtle hints and evidence here and there. Also, parents are important in the story and the fact that someone like Hisashi ain't revealed or barely mentioned in the story by the time we're in its third act, seems sus.
At the same time however, it's something that needs to be done correctly if it does become canon. I want it to be more than just "Izuku, I am your fatherrr!!!" or something like that. Making AFO the father of Midoriya just for the sake of it would make me question why it was added into the story.
Tomura's situation is probably an example of it being done right. Not only does that our heroes hesitate when it comes to him, but it's also shown he looked up to his grandma because she was a hero, which adds depth and possible development for Tenko to be saved.
I'm more interested about the implications and impact it would have on the characters rather than DFO. Why did All For One have a child? Did he have malicious or ulterior motives behind it? (likely)... Why in the world did this bastard tried so hard to hide it when it could've been used to make others doubt Midoriya as a hero? Would this change or impact Midoriya's goals? Etc, etc.
I really don't want it to be like how it is in the fics, where it's like "Oh, AFO genuinely fell in love with Inko and genuinely loves Midoriya and would protect him at all cost!", because there would be almost no effect on Midoriya himself too. There would, but he would bounce off of it rather quickly than you think.
I do have a discarded post in my drafts regarding DFO, just... abandoned. With this topic, I am now considering if I should try make that post about this again. I see that it's very plausible in the story, and if done right, could set up some interesting development for Midoriya. We'll just have to wait and see. :)
I do agree that AFO seems rather hesitant on what to do with Midoriya, possibly hinting that there's this part of him that has conflicted feelings towards him. (Maybe Midoriya reminds AFO more of a certain someone...? *cough* brother *cough*)
Even if AFO does care about his family, would that even justify all those 100+ years of killing, manipulation and all the bad things he's done?
Hell no.
And Midoriya would also know this. I'm not saying there won't be any impact on Midoriya. I mean, it definitely will affect him and probably shock him too. Even so, did AFO ever back down from his villainous acts after Midoriya was born? No. If DFO is canon, this would actually mean he just straight up abandoned Midoriya to raise another child. And when I say raise, I mean abuse and groom a 5 year old child into the next version of him. He found Tenko, who was 5 years old. Midoriya and Tomura have a 4 years age gap, meaning Midoriya may be a year old or even less than that. Even when he had a family, he didn't change at all. This is why I'm convinced that AFO probably had ulterior motives for his "family" beforehand.
The fact that AFO even ouright insulted Midoriya, calling him "useless" does not help Midoriya empathize with the likes of that bastard either.
Even if he cares for him, even if he genuinely did love his family, everything he's done so far would entirely outweigh it. He's still a villain, and he himself is aware of that. Midoriya would be shocked for some time, but its not gonna give as much character growth for Midoriya than some people hoped for. He doesn't even know his father or mention him at all. Even if AFO does care, would Midoriya even feel the same way? It's just gonna another one of those "Your heritage does not define who you are now!" or something like that.
He's still gonna wreck AFO.
I mean, even his younger brother is even shown to pretty much hate the guy, despite how AFO seems to care (despite his, erm... own "methods" of showing that). I think its obvious that AFO does not know how to deal with family.
When it comes to DFO, you gotta also consider the things he's done before in the past. This is why I don't like how DFO is done in some fics or headcanons, because they sometimes seem to throw all this out of the window.
I would find DFO interesting if he had some ulterior motives behind having a family, but ended up changing his mind when meeting Tomura. Whatever plan he had, it would shake Midoriya to the core.
I've seen a lot of people having Villain!Deku AUs, so what if AFO originally had a family just so he could groom someone into his successor, only to find Tenko before he could properly do that with Midoriya into one? Now THAT is an interetsing concept I would love to see, as it has so many implications behind it...
How plausible do you think the Dad For One Theory is?
Well, I think it's very plausible! In fact, I'm kinda in for it. (which is clear if you've seen all my reblogs)
I feel like there's some very subtle hints and evidence here and there. Also, parents are important in the story and the fact that someone like Hisashi ain't revealed or barely mentioned in the story by the time we're in its third act, seems sus.
At the same time however, it's something that needs to be done correctly if it does become canon. I want it to be more than just "Izuku, I am your fatherrr!!!" or something like that. Making AFO the father of Midoriya just for the sake of it would make me question why it was added into the story.
Tomura's situation is probably an example of it being done right. Not only does that our heroes hesitate when it comes to him, but it's also shown he looked up to his grandma because she was a hero, which adds depth and possible development for Tenko to be saved.
I'm more interested about the implications and impact it would have on the characters rather than DFO. Why did All For One have a child? Did he have malicious or ulterior motives behind it? (likely)... Why in the world did this bastard tried so hard to hide it when it could've been used to make others doubt Midoriya as a hero? Would this change or impact Midoriya's goals? Etc, etc.
I really don't want it to be like how it is in the fics, where it's like "Oh, AFO genuinely fell in love with Inko and genuinely loves Midoriya and would protect him at all cost!", because there would be almost no effect on Midoriya himself too. There would, but he would bounce off of it rather quickly than you think.
I do have a discarded post in my drafts regarding DFO, just... abandoned. With this topic, I am now considering if I should try make that post about this again. I see that it's very plausible in the story, and if done right, could set up some interesting development for Midoriya. We'll just have to wait and see. :)
This was a theory that I had... for over a year. I guess I'm glad I waited because we now know more information about One For All as a quirk.
As you can see, this is a theory about the quirk of the First not being as useless as you may think. When I say his quirk, I'm talking about his original quirk.
It's been stated that the First User's original quirk was ability to just pass itself on. This itself is under the assumption that this ability was indeed the only ability the og quirk had. (Also, what's with this emphasis on the dude being "useless" and "powerless"? Like that's not like someone else we know... *cough* Midoriya *cough*)
Okay, maybe the ability to just pass itself on to someone else is a bit useless, and maybe more harmful than helpful as you know what happens when this thing gets passed on to someone who already has a power.
But what if I told you that there was actually more to the original quirk than we all thought? And this was staring right in our faces this entire time?
While All Might did indeed say that the First User's original quirk may have only had the ability of transfer, we can't exactly see this as reliable information. We've seen him get debunked before, mainly with the vestiges.
The thing is, all the information All Might currently has is information relayed from one user to the next.
This means that everything that we're told about OFA and its power from All Might are most likely just merely assumptions or theories from the past holders of One For All that just got passed down to the current generation. This is the same with All For One, despite him probably being the closest to knowing what OFA is.
This is the one of those instances where we explore deeper into the quirk. Here, we get to see a real visualisation of One For All.
One For All has always been commonly visualized as a flame. Here, we find out that deep within those flames, there's this small, seemingly insignificant dot that has now started to grow in size.
To me, the core seemed to stand out from the flames. Almost as if it's made to appear as something that wasn't a natural part of it.
And then it clicked...
What if this core wasn't a part of the Stockpile quirk, but was actually the original Transfer Quirk that the First User had?
It may seem like I'm jumping the gun, but Banjo's words seem to very subtly imply that the core isn't quite the Stockpile quirk. It's the flames.
The core of One For All is stated to be separate from the Stockpile part of the quirk. It's wrapped up within the accumulated power, but doesn't seem to be the one accumulating it.
With almost 100 chapters later, we see First mentions the growth of the quirk. And he says this.
THIS GUY, who has always been like "our power" this, "our power" that, for brief moment refers to OFA as "my power".
But he wasn't talking about OFA as a whole. He was only talking about that small little core that has grown exponentially.
Alright, so the core may be the First's original quirk. But what does this have to do with the Transfer quirk not being useless?
Well...
It was the core of One For All that has been stockpiling the quirks and consciousness of the past wielders this entire time. And if this core is indeed not the Stockpile quirk, but rather the First's original quirk, this means that the one stockpiling quirks wasn't the power given by All For One, but it was the so called "useless" Transfer Quirk all along.
The Transfer Quirk actually had the ability to also stockpile the quirks of those who previously held the power, as if done so to preserve those who are long gone. It's a lot like what Nana previously said about One For All.
In fact, it may have been the same quirk as All For One, but due to their different will and ideals, the way their quirks manifested their abilities very differently, both of which are able to interact with quirks and the consciousness behind them. I kinda consider these two powers as "Meta Quirks", special quirks where their abilities revolve around quirks itself.
May explain why Midoriya is able to use multiple quirks of OFA. Because despite there being multiple quirks, both OFA and AFO just stockpile them into one quirk, so it technically still counts as just using a singular quirk.
So First's quirk wasn't a useless quirk after all. It had the ability to pass on itself, while also stockpiling the quirks of the past users of the quirk.
But if this is the case... Why did only Midoriya start manifesting the quirks of past users?
It's because of the Stockpile.
It's been stated above that the core has been wrapped up within the accumulated power of the Stockpile. Compared to the huge, great flames of all this power, the core is been shown only a small dot within it.
I believe the Stockpile quirk actually surpressed all the abilities of the First's quirk, except for its ability to pass on itself. Rendering it "useless"
The ability to actually use the quirks held in One For All may have been something that was meant to be it's main ability, meaning all users should've been able to access this. But the Stockpile just simply overpowered the original quirk, so this wasn't able to truly use its power.
The ability of accessing the quirks of those who previously held OFA wouldn't have been noticed up until the Third User wielded it. At that point, the Stockpile would've probably grown enough to completely surpress this power.
So OFA may have gotten a very powerful quirk when combined with the First's original quirk, but at the cost of the true power of the quirk's ability. When you see it this way, it's almost symbolic. AFO somehow managed to surpress the true ability of his brother's power.
(This kinda makes me wonder if the real reason why First didn't use or realized that he had a quirk was because he was made to believe he was quirkless or useless, since we know OFA and AFO follows the will and beliefs of the user...)
Midoriya just so happened to get One For All at the perfect time. When the original quirk finally started to come out of the flames, allowing him properly use the true hidden ability of One For All. Which is probably what Banjo meant with this.
So... TLDR: First User actually had a power that resembled his brother's, which was the ability to pass on his own quirk, and when a quirked user passes it on, it stockpiles probably some copy of their quirk (since OFA is transferred through DNA, which probably has the quirk gene in it), which allowed the current user to wield the quirks of those who originally owned it. It wasn't able to use this ability since Stockpile nommed on the quirk until it started to come out of the accumulated power, which just so happened to occur when Midoriya had it.
Welp, that's what I got. Dang, I'm so glad I finally got this out there, haha. There's a lot of things I wanted to post as well, but then again, wasn't really able to. I'll try to be more active on this blog, especially while I'm more hyperfocused on bnha currently.
