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KIKI LAYNE as NILE FREEMAN The Old Guard 2 (2025) dir. Victoria Mahoney
THE OLD GUARD 2 || Joe & Nicky
Joe & Nicky I The Old Guard 2 (2025)
Luca Marinelli || The Old Guard 2
I am blissfully ignoring everyone's complaints in the tag but I DO have a complaint of my own and that is that we got both long-haired Joe AND long-haired Nicky and we did NOT get to see them kiss with their hands in each other's hair. Absolutely inexcusable.
Not much of an exile if you're dropping in to deliver groceries... And you were the one screaming for his head.
MARWAN KENZARI as YUSUF AL-KAYSANI The Old Guard 2 (2025) dir. Victoria Mahoney
Joe & Nicky using each other's given names
THE OLD GUARD 2 (2025) dir. Victoria Mahoney
YUSUF AL-KAYSANI & NICOLO DI GENOVA THE OLD GUARD 2 (2025)
from what i can tell the reviews about this are mixed but tbh i was personally a huge fan of joe and nicky’s characterizations in this film. spoilery highlights after the cut
nicky basically “back in my day”ing nile for her question about whether the guard ever gets time off like the grandpa he is
the glimpses of how truly unhinged a millennia of being immortal has made them: laughing about booker getting his head blown off by a cannon, their shared amusement at joe’s funny guy bit with his severed thumb, the gleeful competitiveness over who drives which car, nicky teasing joe for not hot wiring his car as fast, playfully racing one another with their stolen vehicles. all while in the middle of a goddamn heist where bullets are flying everywhere lmaooo that’s deranged behavior and i love them for it.
speaking of the cars!! how even their driving is perfectly in sync!!!!!
i’ve seen a few posts saying that it was obvious nicky knew something was up with joe after he deflected nicky’s question about the mysterious text, and i totally agree, but i think he knew way sooner. that look he gives joe after nile asks if they think booker is doing okay is very Telling (citation: i’ve been with my spouse for a decade and can tell right away when something’s off with them, imagine that compounded by a literal thousand years!! i wouldn’t be surprised if nicky’s been suspicious of something since the moment joe made contact with booker)
the fact that joe crashed their goddamn car because he was looking at nicky instead of the road. relatable.
the old married couple energy being so strong it almost blew me off my couch!!! bickering about snoring and sleep talking before going to bed at the same time, i’m weak
nicky’s loaded “huh, okay” to joe’s announcement that he needs some time alone. kudos to luca marinelli for being able to imbue a couple of filler words with such meaning. that meaning ofc being that nicky knows his man too well to believe he’s telling the truth about wanting to be alone.
nicky’s little whispered “te amo” when he and joe part ways, sobbb
“we’re following him” / “what?” genuinely made me laugh out loud
fully believe nicky would have been fine with joe going his separate way for a bit if he truly did need a little time and space. but i love that he follows him (and forces nile into a Situation in the process lol) because at this point he’s probably known for months that something’s been off with joe, and now he’s lying??? about needing something nicky would be willing to give him if joe were only telling the truth?? ofc that’s the tipping point for nicky.
not really a character development choice, but i am genuinely curious about why joe is bringing booker lemons. is there reason to be concerned about booker’s citrus intake?
the conflict is delicious to me!! love to see my favorite fictional ships argue because those moments reveal a lot about who people are, individually and as a unit. and joe and nicky fight like the old marrieds they are, like two people who are unflappable in the certainty that their foundation is too solid to crack under the pressure of a prolonged disagreement like this. it reminds me a lot of one of my favorite quotes from the haunting of hill house: “you fight with love. you're on the same team even in the middle of a fight. during the fight, you're forgiven. there's no fear. there's no danger. you're safe. it's a beautiful way to be.”
speaking of the Argument, my personal old married take is that it wasn’t joe being in contact with booker that upset nicky as much as it was the extended lie of omission joe told by not letting nicky in on this fact sooner. nicky has spent six months believing they were on the same page, that they’d both agreed to the terms of this painful exile - painful not only for booker, but for them as well because it meant losing a brother. nicky sat in that pain alone for months without realizing it, all because, as nicky pointed out, joe assumed he knew how nicky would react instead of talking with him. they’re supposed to be a team, and joe left him in the dark on this one! so it feels like it's not so much about his anger that joe is talking to booker again and more about joe shutting nicky out of his very understandable struggle with their decision to cut ties with him.
yusuf went to see him! yusuf!!! (cue hilary duff’s this is what dreams are made of)
truly unwell over the cliffs of moher backstory and how beautifully it sums up their characters, their relationship, and the nature of this conflict arc. the game was playful and competitive like they've been shown to be, but when it came down to following through, nicky was too stubborn, steadfast, and consistent to give up first - just like he couldn’t move past what booker did as easily as joe, just like he waited until joe came to him to put a punctuation mark on the argument and finally tell nicky what’s really been bothering him.
“talk to me,” nicky says and nothing else - and when joe does, he meets him with understanding but also objective facts. it’s a beautiful counterpoint to joe’s romantic monologue in the first film. no flowery prose, because nicky isn’t a poet like joe, but still just as moving in its simple truths (things end, and so will we eventually. but this thing that i feel for you because i know your heart isn’t an arbitrary happenstance. it’s a deliberate choice made countless times over countless years. and everything that’s a product of that love will ripple outward through eternity).
every battle couple moment. every single one of them.
joe kicking the guard onto nicky’s sword was definitely a precursor to the make up sex they need to have and i’m so glad that, if nothing else, we can all agree on this.
Sooooo i watched 2old2guard how are we feeling about it friends???
But Jojo the Dog, he walked to the edge of the cliff, and he said, "Can I? Can I?" Well, can he? Can he jump?
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oh my God, The Old Guard 2 news in 2024???? I've dreamed of days like these
au where nicky is punk rock (nose and lip rings, eyeliner, bunch of tattoos, dyed hair, lives to go to shows) and joe is going as a punk rocker for halloween and they meet in a bar on the night and nicky sees joe, goes to sit beside him, and opens with "hey that's my favorite band on your shirt :) funny that neither of us dressed up tonight huh?" and joe who was just wishing he was back in his normal comfy adidas fits and that fake piercings and tattoos didn't itch so much but got entirely distracted by how nice nickys eyeliner makes his eyes look is like. Yes. in fact i would die for (glances down at his shirt that he didn't even know was a band and picked because the flaming skull on it seemed to fit the theme he was going for) The Death Blood Fortune Tellers
help i can't stop laughing
Joe to Andy: “Good morning old girl.”
Andy to Joe: “Good morning old man.”
Nicky to Andy: “Good morning young lady.”
Andy to Nicky: “Good morning young man.”