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God forbid you ask a pharmacy to fill a prescription
in case folk outside the UK aren't abreast of our news, the British press just hounded a black academic to death
a rough timeline of events (from memory, there may be inaccuracies, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong)
Cambridge professor of sociology Jason Arday is accused of plagiarism by another academic
the accuser is a "race realist" who believes that in a true meritocracy all university professors would be white. this is somehow not acknowledged much during the entire ordeal
this leads to several days of media coverage demanding an investigation, or that Arday is expelled from his post immediately
somehow this accusation that has no effect on the lives of 99.99% of the population becomes FRONT PAGE NEWS in all the newspapers for multiple days, above anything else happening in the UK or the world at large
following intense media scrutiny, Arday resigns his post as a Cambridge professor
today, august 14th, days after resigning, Arday is found dead at his home in Battersea
the British tabloid press remains, and will always be, fucking evil
Maybe petty but I can't really tolerate a lot of man-hating on this site specifically because I know it's fake as fuck...... I know for a fact that some of you have boyfriends, talk to your dads regularly, have brothers and male friends and coworkers, do DnD with men... but you can't stand transmascs and men of colour for long enough to have a conversation about your places in their oppression? Ok
this is a statement from victryena, a trans woman of color who was mass harassed by (mostly) white trans women on twitter for reposting a protest sign saying "white trans people are oppressors too". the sign itself was a response to septembersister, a black trans woman and refugee in canada, having her speech suppressed at the vancouver transgender march protest. here is her full speech, made later. i am platforming them because they need to be heard, and the content of their words is urgently relevant to the current state of transfeminist discourse.
Transcription, since it's too long for alt text:
Trans people of color are underrepresented and outnumbered. When we stand up and make ourselves visible, we put ourselves at risk of disproportionate scrutiny and harassment, not just from transphobes and bad actors, but also from those within our own community. When we want to make ourselves heard, we're told that now is not the time. We're told it's stirring up drama, in-fighting, and bad optics. Even how, and when, we express our grievances is policed. When we use provocation, it's inflammatory and lacks nuance. When we use satire, it's offensive and unproductive. When we share our personal experiences, it's the oppression olympics. When we share statistics, it's sowing division. When we clarify ourselves, it's back-pedaling. When we defend ourselves, it's doubling down. When we criticize too harshly, we're asked to placate. When we don't criticize hard enough, we're ignored outright. When it's said by a large platform, it's engagement baiting and fed posting. When it's said by a small platform, it's buried and forgotten. When it's said by a SWer, it invites shame and disparagement. And when we're lucky enough to survive beyond all of the compounding systemic barriers placed upon us (before, during, and after transition), we're seen as the example and not the exception. It's suffocating, disillusioning, and isolating. Even within a community that claims to include and support us, we have no voice. Acknowledging the intersectionality of trans people of color, especially those who are black and indigenous, is not something new within progressive spaces. And it does not take anything away from the very real experiences of white trans individuals. But it also does not absolve them from, or grant them immunity to, the same racial prejudices and biases held (subconsciously or otherwise) if they were cis. Having a marginalized gender identity does not come with the awareness of marginalized racial identities. White hegemony and oppression do not disappear when recontextualized within a transgender space, just like they don't within queer spaces more broadly. It still exists including through unexamined racial privilege and how that shapes behaviors and attitudes, and how trans white voices dominate discourse and dictate the overarching priorities of the trans community while excluding, dismissing, sidelining, and being blind to, trans bipoc perspectives. And that was made very clear from the responses throughout this entire discourse, including the same familiar displays of white fragility and conservative talking points used when confronting racial inequality more generally. To me, and all the other trans bipoc, who read every defensive reaction, deflection, straw man, dismissal, bad faith interpretation, condescending interjection, anecdotal fallacy, pedantic argument, disparaging comment, accusation, and personal attack. Every "well actually", "not all white people", "all lives matter", and "we have bigger problems". Only for those same people to inevitably virtue-signal about how their peers need to do better when one of them is outed for racism (if at all). The irony and hypocrisy has not been lost on us.
This isn't a call to action for the greater society to solve all the issues that every trans person experiences, nor is it the business of anyone outside of the trans community. It's a conversation for the trans community specifically and a direct call to action for white individuals (across all gender identities) within the trans community to take a moment of self-reflection and to have a willingness to listen with an intention to learn. Why should those in power care about the struggles of trans people as a whole when they themselves are not directly impacted and have larger problems to address? How can trans bipoc be expected to wait until the broader trans issues have been solved to finally have a voice? Especially when our own white trans peers disparage and deprioritize our grievances in much the same way? Why is the consideration of trans bipoc experiences sidelined as a secondary goal to the broader effort of transgender liberation instead of being seen as an integral and interwoven part of it? In the US, the women's suffrage movement failed to maintain intersectionality and abandoned racial equality in order to secure the white vote first. There's no need for straw man arguments when an actual equivalent example already exists. Acknowledging and platforming the most vulnerable within an already marginalized group is not a means of division, but rather an explicit act of solidarity. It's not just about not oppressing those among us with less privilege, but uplifting them with the privileges we do have so we are all empowered to fight together. None of us will be heard until we are all heard. And none of us will be free until we are all free. The trans rally sign that read "white trans people are oppressors too" wasn't even mine (mine said "trans joy"… lol…), but I understood the subtext (and context) enough to take it in good faith, and to advocate for the very real sentiment behind it. Is the semantics and optics around how we define and confront racial prejudices and systems of oppression within our own community really that much more important than the act of actually addressing it? Let's not wait until another white trans person gets outed for racism, or for another trans person of color to get dogpiled by their white peers into silence, to have this conversation again. Trans lives matters include trans bipoc lives. Trans bipoc rights are also trans rights.
“Do trans men belong in women’s spaces?” I hate the phrasing of that question entirely. It’s secretly multiple questions disguised as one while using a vague term that serves no purpose other than to lead someone to a specific conclusion.
So let’s rephrase it.
“Do trans men belong in women’s spaces clinics that offer services meant for those with vaginas, uteruses, etc?” If they have the relevant anatomy that needs care, then obviously yes. I’m sorry, do you want trans men to get cancer and die because it went undetected too long? Because that’s how you get trans men to get cancer and die because it went undetected too long. Also, why is that space considered a women’s space to begin with and why should we let it stay that way?
“Do trans men belong in women’s spaces feminist advocacy groups fighting for abortion rights?” Yes because leaving trans men out means the people writing the law can simply forget trans men exist and write it in such a way where some asshole familiar with the law can use the exact wording to justify denying necessary care to a trans man because he is a trans man. If the law says “no woman should be denied access to abortion care…” and the trans man is legally a man, he will find himself in the same situation as the trans man who gets that phone call from his insurance saying “hey, sorry, but since you’re a man, we’re not covering that pap smear and you will be charged the full amount.” Not just in terms of paying either. “If you were a real man, you wouldn’t need an abortion. Come back after you fix your documents so they indicate you’re a female, but like, maybe motherhood would fix you so. Idk not my problem anymore. Goodbye!”
“Do trans men belong in women’s spaces lesbian book clubs or whatever?” They’re probably already there anyway and they’re not causing any problems just by being men in what is traditionally a women’s only thing. Plus, chances are they’ve been there since before coming out as trans so you’d just be kicking him out for coming out. I don’t have to explain to anyone why that’s kind of messed up, right?
“Do trans men belong in women’s spaces Should we kick people out of our arbitrarily female-only group if they come out as trans?” I guess I have to explain after all. It’s not gender validating for us to be suddenly ejected from every space we’ve found friends in before. You’re punishing someone for being trans. That’s all they did, was be trans.
trans poc, please i beg of you get transition inspo of people with your ethnicity
i was incredibly dysphoric about my round face and softer features until i started looking at the faces of hispanic men and realized that those features weren’t feminine at all, they were ethnic features white supremacy had conditioned me to see as less masculine
your ethnic features are beautiful, and you do not need to look european to look masculine or feminine
Eggplant on pizza? No indifference allowed 🫵
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Have not tried it but it sounds good
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A small compilation of posts from the latest trans twitter discourse. I haven't bothered to screenshot all of the most viral tweets, but also I think it's important to include a lot of the smart ass replies to really help you simulate just how many people are going under black posts and asking "well, what even is racism really?" And if you'd like to know, one of the largest black trans women on twitter was harassed off of the site. No she did not do anything in particular, just posted an image of a sign she didn't make herself that claimed white trans people oppress black trans people (referring to I believe the silencing of a black trans woman who was slated to speak at the protest but was kicked off last minute. @/septembersister, If that's accurate.)
More in the next reblog.
I don't think it ended up in the screenshot but the scenario of the trans bipoc sex worker they were called sex pests in a reply. Victryena was harassed into deactivating.
This is why white feminism is so dangerous. You have to understand intersectionality, you have to listen to the black and brown trans people in your communities, you have to give them space to speak or you create places where it is less socially risky to have profited off of racism than it is to be black.
I wonder how many times I can reblog this to add more posts? Until we have an anti racist trans community, we do not have a trans community.
I keep forgetting I can only add 10 screenshots at a time. There's so many of these posts. Seeing more and more people claiming this isn't happening as well. It is violent to call someone a racist, it is not violent to be racist. TWOC exist to be used as tokens for discourse, but I would never ever center their issues. The TWOC who are being actively silenced in real life and online don't matter, MY feelings were hurt! I have struggles!
Sorry if there are any duplicates, its getting hard to keep track.
I think posters who are attempting to swing back on this conversation claiming this is an organized attack against trans women and fems are willfully ignorant. The sign does not name transfems. The sign is in defense of a trans woman. The vast majority of people making this about trans women are trans women posting racist bullshit. It's not my fault they are trans women. My go to search has been 'white trans' as well as off of my feed. Klansmascs and klansgender nonbinaries are also a plague on our spaces that keep us from community or action, but to dismiss this behavior as a psyop is to engage in apologia for racist communities and erasure of transmisogynoir.
A black trans women and a asian trans women have been harassed and silenced by white transgender "allies".
Racism is a "personal grievance". Racism is a "niche cultural issue." Racism takes up all the air in the room and addressing it is hampering REAL action. Antiracism is "liberalism".
The most disgusting idea I have seen thrown at Vic, who is an asian trans woman, is that she is weaponizing racism or the struggles of TWOC/TPOC. Absurd as an idea of that is it makes me furious that we as a community continue to use the statistics of violence, sexual assault, and murders of black trans women to push for trans rights but when black trans women attempt to discuss racism they face backlash like this. We have tokenized the idea of the black trans woman as a silent victim, the emblem of transmisogynistic abuse, and continue to deny her her struggles lest she be masculinized and deemed an oppressive force herself.
Victry's racial identity is also important. As an asian woman and due to the racist misogynistic associations we, largely as American and Europeans, fetishize the 'natural femininity' of Asians. Her dysphoria is invalidated, she has had an 'easy transition', her sex work is weaponized as equivalent to racial violence. For those who haven't followed along, she returned to twitter with an eloquent statement I will add here.
I think its also important to notice how many of these creeds attempt to call on ones marxist values and position TPOC and POC as welding imaginary economic power over white victims. Sex work is continually used as a bludgeon (perverted sexually deviant TWOC are whining when they reap monetary gain vs white trans women as the victims of sexual violence forced to participate in survival sex work are being looked down upon by rich TWOC who never have to experience sexual violence to benefit)
For every singular person rolling their eyes and proclaiming their oppression has tuned them into the concept of suffering, that their experiences make them the true savior of the oppressed masses who doesn't NEED to ever listen to another group, theres 10 more replies 'just wondering' why we 'even bother to see color', or if antiracist action was CIA funded to erode leftist unity, and all of them are trying to make this exclusively about trans women. It's insane.
It genuinely does NOT matter that your post discussing this is addressing racism among the entire community, I only had room to include one of these independent replies/quotes, but there is not that much of an independent push to attack white trans women it's all shadowboxing or virulent racism. We need to purge 4chan from our community
A couple more to close this out.
Racism is trivial. What even IS race? These rich blacks are speaking over fragile abused white trannies. Racism is a niche issue, you're distracting from actual problems. Calling organizations racist is too aggressive, you can't speak here. You're being inflammatory. You're not showing enough nuance. How was I supposed to know theres a victim when all your political slogans are so mean and violent? Discussions of race is a CIA psyop meant to dissolve the left. I'm angry you called me white and this is YOUR fault. Calling me racist is the justifying transphobic violence. You're equating me to a police officer murdering black people right now! YOU support trans peoples deaths because of the color of their skin! I'm not racist! YOU'RE racist for noticing race!
All of these arguments are deflections and self victimization to avoid actually understanding your place in society. If you so uncomfortable with acknowledging race that you lash out violently against TWOC when they attempt to discuss it, you are a racist. I resent any attempts to take this discussion of racism within trans and queer spaces as a smear campaign.
you can only reblog this if you're not racist
attaching something to an email is so scary. what if i accidentally put hard-core porn in there. i don't think i have any downloaded but what if i do and i attached it to the email. what then.
"just go to a food pantry"
"get a second job"
"start your own garden"
"stop buying name brand"
"don't get your nails done"
"learn to budget"
"live within your means"
Temporary individualistic fixes will never solve systemic issues! God forbid EVERYONE eats and not just me!!
Wait so. Elliot Page’s role in The Odyssey is to be unwillingly sacrificed within the first five minutes of his appearance and THAT’S the “complex and interesting” role that people have claimed was personally gifted to him by Nolan for transitioning into a man?? Five minutes of screen time where he’s immediately killed?? Are we actually fucking serious right now. I’ve had to deal with post after post on every social media platform telling me that The Odyssey is proof that Elliot Page transitioned into privilege and the role in question is the most insulting, transphobic, nothingburger I’ve ever seen in my life. Am I missing something here because I feel like I’m losing my mind.
These people think a trans man existing in public is proof of privilege. These people think a trans man being allowed to live and breathe is proof of privilege. These people don’t want trans men to exist btw call it out for what it is at this point.
Sinon is a very important character in The Aeneid. He pretty much singlehandedly brought the downfall of Troy.
This is about Christopher Nolan’s movie adaptation of the Odyssey, not The Aeneid book.
I get that Sinon is an important and complex character, but when we’re discussing the context of Elliot Page playing him and how his character was handled in Nolan’s adaptation:
1) His character doesn’t exist in Homer’s Odyssey and was taken from Virgil’s Aeneid and given to him instead of giving him an actual character in the Odyssey. If someone were to visit the original source material, his role will not even be there.
2) He is essentially the dead wife of the plot, and is also one of the youngest characters. He haunts the narrative, which is a pretty common role given to women so as to not actually write them into the plot, but please do keep telling me that there is absolutely no transphobic or misogynistic biases towards why Elliot Page was specifically selected to play Sinon.
3) He still only gets a combined amount of about five minutes of screentime, and considering this is the most notable role he’s recieved since coming out 5+ years ago… I don’t think this is proof that transitioning has benefited his career. Every time Elliot Page is even mentioned by name, the internet goes on a horrifically transphobic crusade for months until he’s forced back into obscurity. His acting career has objectively tanked since coming out.
4) Elliot Page has already worked with Chrisopher Nolan and was given a (noteably) bigger role in Inception pre-transition. Christopher Nolan did not “wait” for Elliot Page to transition (whatever the fuck that means), the two already knew each other from previous projects.
Edit: Personally, the only real win to me is that a trans man got to play a cis man without his transness being considered an issue, but the way in which Nolan went about it felt more like throwing Elliot Page a bone while benefiting from the outrage caused by Elliot Page simply existing, and instead of celebrating the small win that trans men received, every single side of the internet decided to rip into him and either call him a mentally ill woman or a privileged man benefiting from misogyny.
it feels like people trying to use Page's role in this movie to make a point about Nolan's misogyny are falling into the age-old trap of treating trans experiences purely as a means to prove cis women's experiences.
like, the OP of one particular post that went around got mad at people in the notes for calling them out, talking about how they were just trying to use this as an example to talk about misogynistic writing and "see, you derailed this post about how women are treated to talk about a man!" but its more than just an ill decision on their part.
people are so eager to make the joke that Page transitioned as is now getting better roles, regardless of whether or not its true. people are eager because its a joke that paints such a clear, pointed image of how cis women are affected by misogyny. its the same reason people love "if men could get pregnant..." jokes and sayings even when they are supposedly trans-inclusive. its the same reason that gender studies classes motherfucking love talking about how binary trans men and women in office jobs lose or gain male privilege, because it reduces trans experiences to a vehicle to illustrate cis women's oppression and cis men's privilege.
and people get really mad when you point out that they treat real trans men's real experiences as an allegory they can play around with to talk about how bad cis women are treated. like with "if men could get pregnant," people talking about how Page transitioned and suddenly got a "better role" act like you are spoiling their fun or missing the point, and they insist: but I wasn't even thinking about trans men! I was just trying to talk about how badly women are treated! and don't understand that, yes, that is the problem.
Someday tma/tme is going to be seen the same way as the phrase gold star lesbian.
I've seen a lot of trans women who use those terms say that we need them to talk about our oppression, that rejecting them is transmisogynistic because tma/tme has stripped it down to the absolute minimum to talk about what people who experience transmisogyny experience. The idea being that if trans women can't use tma/tme or something similar, it is impossible to talk about transmisogyny in any meaningful way.
This shows us something fundamental about how the people who use tma/tme think. In particular, that the only meaningful way to discuss your own oppression, and in particular transmisogyny, is in terms of comparing oppression.
It is a hard mindset to break from and very easy to fall into. It's also an astoundingly prejudice way of thinking. It is one of the major roots of all exclusionist movements within the queer community. When I compare tma/tme to gold star lesbian, I mean that very genuinely. I don't think everyone who uses it is a bad person, but they are getting caught up in something that will end very poorly and be remembered as this incredibly toxic and prejudice thing that grew out of this need to directly compare your oppression to others - or in reality, the wildly inaccurate assumptions you make about how others are oppressed.
And it all seems so reasonable at the start. I get that. I really do. Just like it seemed so reasonable and obvious that lesbians are more oppressed than bi woman, and bi women would never really understand.
I don't think most of the early rad fems were bad people. I think they were trying to come to terms with and explain the problems they were seeing and experiencing and many of them inadvertently fell into prejudice ways of thinking. They tried out ideas and rather than dismiss them when they proved a problem they became attached, dug in.
The same thing is happening now. I don't think the people using tma/tme now are bad people. But they have adopted prejudice patterns of thought, have become attached, and are digging in.
We do not need to compare our oppression to other's oppression to meaningfully talk about transmisogyny. I am begging you to stop. You've got to let go of this or someday, far sooner than you realize, you will be the thing you hate.
There are always a lot of people who say "How dare you! How dare you compare us to people who have hurt us!"
Do you really think that the lesbians of the past who built up radical feminism were not oppressed and excluded? Do you really think they were not the subject of hate and violence?
The reality is that a critical component of the creation of radical feminism and all the damage it has done since is that lesbians were oppressed and excluded and violently so.
The fact that we have groups of people dedicated to hating and oppressing us isn't something that sets us apart from rad fems and terfs. It's something we have in common with them.
Conservative beauty standards are back with a vengeance which means it's especially important to go out this summer with bellies out and bodies unshaved. Also be unapologetically disabled with mobility aids and wearable medical devices and stim toys and ear defenders and all that stuff. You need it. People need to see it. Everyone needs to be reminded that life is unquestioningly more enjoyable when you're not living inside an arbitrary set of rules created by people who are offended by all the wrong things.
A concerning amount of y’all seem to think that being racist is a morally neutral position, instead of a prejudice that you are supposed to work on dismantling such as sexism, homophobia, and so on. I’d suggest watching kindergarten level cartoons to learn about treating others like human beings but some of y’all already do that and it’s not doing the trick.
I don’t know how to say this without sounding like a broken record. A lot of y’all talk about misogyny, homophobia, transphobia, ableism, etc but don’t wanna summon the same vim when racism is brought up. Using the excuse that this is a predominantly white space is the same line of thinking as “boys will be boys” when men do something sexist. A group of ppl being of a certain demographic that doesn’t experience a form of bigotry doesn’t excuse their perpetuating of it. If you think a guy should check his peers when they’re being misogynistic, then you should check your white peers when they’re similarly being racist. And similarly if you are disgusted when a guy tries to shrug off misogyny and say it’s not a big deal, and do the same exact thing when it comes to racism think for TWO SECONDS how that makes you look!
To neatly summarize, if you consider yourself a progressive person and combat bigotry where it appears but stop short when racism rears its head, it’s not a good look. If your compassion evaporates on the axis of racial discrimination, it will call into question your judgment on other bigotries as they’re tangled in a messy web of oppression. I’m not expecting you to be Malcom X up in here, but for the love of everything on this earth stop acting like it’s not a big deal.
community notes are so brutal. tumblr needs to add that feature to escalate our pvp capabilities
No the person who tweeted this made me laugh so hard the other day bc people were trying to correct them and they edited their shadow on picsart to keep the bit going
Not everyone who is a woman is a non-man, and not everyone who is a man is a non-woman. Some people's genders aren't non-anything. Sit on that and nurture it and let it hatch and grow up to be a healthy worldview love and peace on planet earth
This is about genderfluid/multigendered people. Respect us as much as you do monogendered people NOW.