Attack and dethrone God

Side blog | Daemonism and chaos. I'm Lory, he's Faun. Settled maned wolf with snakey tendencies.

[moonless-underdog]

The Werewolf

Or about therianthropy, tulpa, daemonism and my inner nightmares.

I think I had some kind of experience similar to what therians call shift some months ago. I’m not even sure I can speak about it like a “shift” as a therian would do, or like something similar the “wonderland” of the tulpa people. I only know that I was extremely stressed and anxious for many reasons, full of negative feelings and ready to explode. I’m not a teen, I’m a young adult who is struggling to adapt to our disgusting society and find a way to survive in it. I was still studying to take my late graduation, scared by the idea of not find a job and not be able to pay bills and buy food. All of this, mixed to the personal feeling to not be good enough, to be a fail, to not be worth anything, made me feel extremely bad… and very, very aggressive. I felt like I had to defend myself against everything and everyone, even my companion. I’m a artist, I’ve always felt inspired by the image of the wolves, but during this bad time their image changed from simple animals to blood-thirsty werewolves, destroyers, furious machines of death. It was relieving to think about them, and games like Werewolf: the Apocalypse and Werewolf: Forsaken helped me to create my fantasy fetish to vent my aggressiveness.

My imagination is a powerful tool, and a few times I imagined myself as a werewolf. I runned through blooming meadows, hunted my prey, fought against other werewolves to keep my low rank, imagining the physical sensation of my claws and teeth stabbing living flesh, my burning lungs while running breathlessly and the taste of blood. It was incredibly vivid, and helped someway to vent my negative energy, even if I’ve never felt better after it. I perfectly know that everything was a game created by my brain trying to escape by my prison of sufference, a way to disconnect from my insane reality. But if daemonism taught me something, is that I cannot be anyone else exept myself. I’m a human beign, I’m a animal, and refuse this reality can only lead me to madness. I talked about this experience with Faun and he truly hates when I do this “shift”, he’s usually very gente and and peaceful but he really can’t stand it and I understand why. If I loose the sense of reality I loose the very few anchorage to my existence, I would completely get lost. And I don’t want this, I started praticing daemonism to learn to listen myself and get better as person, to learn to understand and accept all my flaws, because if I embrace my weakness then no one can use them against me. The shift drag me inside my nightmares, the daemonism push me outside where I can breath and fight against my real enemies, in the only world that truly exist.

So that’s it. I’m not a therian and I will never be. Only my nightmares can haunt me, and when I’ll defeat them I’ll be the only one to remain.  

[moonless-underdog]

Ok, but when your daemon start singing this song for you then probably there is something truly special buried inside of youself.

My daemon is the sweetest cinnamon troll ever and you would never believe how much he makes me happy. 

[moonless-underdog]

I found this pretty interesting site about daemonism. I like how it explain it and how it’s connected to Jung’s theories. It can be a nice start for curious people who wants to learn more about it.

[imagineeeverything]

[flynnardkuwata]

Ask Me About My Daemon!

[heqaiitw-blog]

Anfang: What gender is your daemon? (Daemons can be the opposite gender, the same gender, or outside the binary altogether)

Belisaria: How talkative is your daemon?  What does their voice sound like?

Cerebaton: Do you think your daemon is smarter than you?

Golden Monkey: Are there any unscrupulous traits that you find your daemon possesses?  Would you say they are your dark side?

Hester: How would adventures with your daemon be like?

Kaisa: Does your daemon notice things before you do?  Are they more aware than you?

Karossa: What mood is your daemon usually in?  Do you even feel their emotions?

Kirjava: What form do you think your daemon will settle as?  What do you want them to settle as?  If you are settled, do you particularly like their form?    

Kulang: Do you know your daemon’s personality types?  Would you say their personality is the opposite of yours?

Kyrillion: How do you think your daemon would interact with the daemons of others?  What about with other humans?

Matapan: Does your daemon comfort you/cheer you up when you are down?

Musca: What do you think your parents’ daemons would have named your daemon?  Do you think it would have been a fitting name?

Pantalaimon: Does your daemon argue with you a lot?  About what?  Who’s right?

Ragi: Is your daemon more mature than you?

Ratter: What forms did your daemon take before you were settled?

Salcilia: Would you give up your daemon for anything?  What would life be like without them?

Sandling: What is your daemon’s outlook on life?  What are their opinions on various philosophical topics (the afterlife, the nature of morality, etc.)

Sayan Kötör: What would your daemon be like if they existed in corporeal form?  Do you wish corporeal daemons existed?

Sergi: Would you have liked to undergo separation (a la the witches) from your daemon?

Stelmaria: Has your daemon ever fallen in love?  What do they think of your past datemates/crushes?

Sophonax: How well would your daemon’s form have matched your physical appearance?

Zohariel: What is your daemon’s name, and what does it mean?

[mondaemonday]

ahh sorry!! I thought it only applied to people you knew in real life, my mistake! Do you mind analyzing the maned wolf for me? It would mean so much! Sorry for the last long ask, you just have me super interested in daemons 😅

haha, no problem! It started off that way but then I got deluged in requests from other people and realized that NOPE THIS WAS WAY TOO MUCH and decided to make it a general thing

Daemons are SUPER interesting, it’s true :D It’s all good

So, the maned wolf.

or do you mean… THE SKUNK WOLF???

Apparently they smell super intensely of weed, to the point that police have started hunts for cannabis smokers because a maned wolf lived nearby. So like… if you have a maned wolf you either have to REALLY LEAN INTO IT and blame the smell on your daemon or become super straight edge because if there’s even a shred of a doubt about it people will assume you’re high. (this is a joke, but I imagine it’s a joke that people with maned wolves make to each other. ‘so are you a weed wolf?’)

I think that it would mean a person who accidentally calls attention to themselves a lot, despite their best attempts to stay under the radar. Perhaps they’re awkward in an eye-catching way, or particularly talented at something that causes people to take a second look at them

They are shy creatures, with a tendency to flee from danger. This is interesting because they aren’t really a prey animal, although feral dogs might fuck them up if they get in the way. That would indicate a person who is a bit jumpy and shy, regardless of whether or not their environment would cause that. They just prefer to be by themselves usually. Or it could point to a person who learned very young that the way to survive was to get out of the way, regardless of whether or not the danger was salient. Regardless of why, they’re not a fan of attention and become anxious with too many interactions.

They’re shy, but as I said earlier, they get a LOT of attention for the way they mark their territory. I think this indicated a person who needs their own space. They’ll flip shit if you try to take their stuff, although their natural hesitance might mean it’s a silent meltdown.

They hate confrontation, so they’ll just… slowly move in and take over without quite telling anyone what they’re doing. Picture a a squeakily shy intern who bustles around constantly and then you slowly realize she’s taken over the jobs of people twice her age. Or an awkward student who wants lab space and so just… quietly starts leaving his stuff there. They want to have their own place (whether that’s physical or not), and will work quietly but steadily to get it. And once they’ve got it, it’s THEIRS and DON’T YOU DARE TAKE IT

Although called wolves, the maned wolf eats mostly plant matter - only sometimes snapping up small rodents for protein. So a person with a maned wolf is fairly gentle, and while they’re capable of being tough and ruthless it makes them a bit sick to think of it (eating a lot of meat makes maned wolves physically ill).

They have symbiotic relationships with ants, in that they shit directly onto the ants who then use that fertilizer for their gardens and help grow the plants that the wolf eats. So a person with a maned wolf prefers working on the little things behind the scenes that help make everything work rather than be out in the spotlight doing the big flashy stuff. As I said before, they’re not a fan of attention. 

Interestingly, maned wolves aren’t actually wolves. They’re not closely related to ANY living canid actually. They’re loners, although they might have a few close friends. They’re distantly friendly to everyone (as they are distantly related to most canids) but there are few that they are close to. And that’s okay. They like being by themselves.

So basically: someone with a maned wolf is quiet and shy, but smart and willing to do the nitty-gritty work that keeps the world working. They are possessive of their things (physical or otherwise) although they hate confrontation so they’ll probably give them up BUT HATE IT SO MUCH INSIDE ARGH. This gentleness and tendency to avoid conflict means that they are more vulnerable to being taken advantage of, but don’t mistake their hesitance to act as an incapability to act. They are predators and they can fight back. But oh god, they really don’t want to.

[daemonomicon]

Dæmons Through The Ages

Henry Wriothesley, 3rd Earl of Southampton   |    Katharine of Aragon with a monkey |  The Lady with an Ermine   |  Marguerite d’Angoulême, Queen consort of Navarre |  A Moroccan Beauty Holding A Parrot  |  The Pasha’s Favourite Tiger   |   Antoinette Metayer and her pet dog  |   Boy and Rabbit   |  The Girl with the Marmot  |

[shock]

and now we return to...................................

………………… the regularly scheduled

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[caniskorvid]

Dæmonism is a fun concept and all but damn is it hard to find a freaking analytical form. Especially when you’re reading through and 90% of it fits and then find that one personality trait that is just like the exact opposite of you and have to start over and look for something else. Also having your dæ only continuing “no, nope, don’t really like that form, ew, definitely not that,” to you instead of giving helpful criticism or advice with the mater is really not all that productive lol

[moonless-underdog]

Can I give you a small suggestion?

Ignore the analysis. 

There, I said it. I think searching for the absolute perfect form for you based only on someone’s analysis is crazy, we’re not talking about something based on actual psychological studies like MBTI or Enneagram, an daemon analysis is based only on the author’s interpretation. The same animal could be analyzed by 10 people and we will get 10 different analyses, maybe with some basic info in common but that’s all. Hyenas are obviously for extraverts, hawks for introverts. That’s all.

I tried so HARD to find my form until I got so stressed out that I just said screw all of this, I’ll pick any form I feel that fits and help me with communication with my daemon. And I feel way better since that.  It’s a long discussion so I’ll stop here for now, but feel free to add your point of view if you like, I love to talk about this concept. :)

[magiclikeacharlie]

to anyone trying to find their dæmon’s form and getting frustrated/disheartened/discouraged, please remember that, whether you decide to base it on pure symbology, animal behavior, or a mix of the two, it does not matter. keep in mind that:

a) what matters is in the end is whether or not it feels right to you 

         - whether you got there by MBTI, enneagram, zoology, or pure gut instinct, if you can look at that animal and say ‘yeah, that’s me,’ then that’s you

and

b) no one can prove you wrong 

       - if you say you’re a mouse, or a sparrow, or a seal, or a moose, or goddam lion, that’s what you are, and I guarantee you, you could point to any number of behavioral/symbolic aspects of that animal that prove you right

just about all interpretations are largely subjective, and dæmons are, ultimately, supposed to be fun

so go have fun

[moonless-underdog]

THIS

[moonless-underdog]

I got inspired by @moon-tracer ‘s moodboards for daemons so I felt the need to my own. These are the colorsand sensations that Faun gives me.

[clarabosswald]

dæmon [/ˈdiːmən/]: the external physical manifestation of a person’s ‘inner-self’, or soul, that takes the form of an animal. Children’s dæmons can take any shape they wish; an adult’s dæmon settles into a permanent form which represents the person’s personality.

A dæmon is not an animal, of course; a dæmon is a person. A real cat, face to face with a dæmon in cat form, would not be puzzled for a moment. She would see a human being.

[hareextraordinaire]

a lot of daemians on tumblr seem to be like, relatively new to daemonism & still in the bubbly excited ‘this is amazing I love my daemon I’m going to make 10 million posts about how great they are’ stage 

which is great but we’ve been doing this since like 2006 so we’re more at uhh. the old married couple stage? like kin’s like ‘hey remember to buy baking powder’ and I’m like ‘k’ and then we sit in silence for like 4 hours and it’s fine

[sundiscsandemptyciphers]

This is a mood.

[hay-and-ame]

daemonism isn’t a religion, lads.

[sundiscsandemptyciphers]

Indeed.

[old-daemon-farts]

Daemon question time. Who here considers themselves human? Or are you daemon only? Or perhaps spirit, soulbonds, Tulpa, headmate, or just the animal your form is.

I had asked this on Discord and loved reading the responses so I will ask here as well.

Cayde: This was my responses from that conversation:

Depending on my mood, and how I feel about humanity, at the time I am often Human > daemon > animal. Which is different from younger me who would have never included human in my identity.

Human-adjacent works well. I see myself as human as much as daemon or varying degrees of either. I think I am comfortable saying I'm human because I'm tied so strongly to Kit. I am another side to her, and she is human so I feel human. But then there is the important stuff that makes me different from her, my daemon role and "core" as she calls it. It falls into also how I say I'm Kit before an individual. I'm "human" before daemon.

Or perhaps a good example with Kit is she is human before a daughter. She is both and being a daughter is far more intimate than just a human. She's also most likely going to call herself a daughter far more often than a human. Kind of like how I'm gonna say I'm a daemon far more often than human. Hell I'd never outright say I'm human and not a daemon. But my own personal recognition of what I am is there. I'm not just your average human but I am still a human individual.

An animal sees a daemon and thinks "human", a person sees a daemon and thinks "daemon". An animal or random person sees Kit and thinks "human" while her parents think "daughter". Bleh. I am probably just going around in circles without actual good clarification.

I decided to ask this because I have a tendency to think "I'm human, I'm bound to make mistakes", "humans are imperfect, I am imperfect" and such.

Rhea is mostly on the same page as me but feels far more attached as a daemon than a human at this point in her life.

[sundiscsandemptyciphers]

[I identify very strongly as a daemon specifically; but I think I would say I am a person, if not exactly human...]

[moonless-underdog]

I won’t answer by copying the words of my daemon because our dialogues are way too personal to be shared, so I’ll just explain.

Faun, as all daemons, is not a human or animal. He doesn’t even call himself daemon, actually, because I am my daemon. He’s not a separate entity living inside of my head, he’s the shadow of my own being, a voice from the deepest corners of my mind, similar to the shadow aspect described by Jung. His personality, voice and look are just tools to help me connect my myself. I believe that what we can actually see through our daemons is just the tip of the iceberg of what we carry inside of us, reaching a full understand of ourself requires a large amount of time, work and knowledge that - please forgive me if I say this straight - no one on Tumblr possess, not even myself. Not even many of the so-called philosophers of our times.

It’s been almost 10 years since I started practicing daemonism, so let me give you all a small suggestion: don’t confuse daemonism with tulpamancy, souldbounds and other stuff like these. Daemons are just glorified imaginary friends with the simple purpose of facilitating self-analisys and growth, nothing else. If you want to keep this practice healthy for you, then stop giving your daemon too much power. I saw so many users on the italian forum literally using daemonism only to justify their shitty behaviour and trust me, that was bad. Don’t do this. Be better. Grow.

[sundiscsandemptyciphers]

[Don't tell me how much "power" I should or shouldn't have, thanks. Or what I am. I entirely respect your relationship with your daemon, but mine and my human's - and who I am and the amount of autonomy I have - is clearly rather different. And if you are referring to something specific I am entirely happy to be corrected, but I'm not sure what you mean by using daemons to justify shitty behaviour? I have no doubt that you have seen examples of this in your time - but it's not something I think I or Rachel can be accused of?]

[moonless-underdog]

I'm obviously talking in general tones and not accusing anyone. But the human psyche is way more fragile than many believe and I saw way too many people playing with it, sometimes with unpleasant consequences. Daemonism is a tool, and so are tulpamancy and other similar practices, so it's not inherently bad, but think it about as a knife: put it in the hands of a chef and they will create awesome dishes, but the same tool in the hands of a psychopath can kill. It's an extreme comparison of course, but bear with me. If you're ok with this kind of relationship with a sentient being you created and you're aware of what you're doing then great, keep going, but I rather to be clear and explain what could be potentially hurtful to the wrong people. As I said, I had the misfortune to meet a "daemian" that shielded themselves behind their daemon, acting horribly because their daemon told them it was ok to do so. They clearly had a lot of psychological problems and pretended that daemonism could solve all their problems, which obviously wasn't the case.

This is my experience. You're free to take this info and do whatever you like with it, but I rather to share it so that young daemians won't make the same mistakes. I cannot know who's behind the screen, how experienced and mentally healthy they are, but it doesn't matter, knowledge must be given to everyone.

[sundiscsandemptyciphers]

I'm hardly asking you to check my whole life history, but it's literally in my tumblr bio that I've been a daemian for ten years at this point; I think I know what I'm doing.

And I am all for sharing examples of good and bad practice both; I agree that that is really important. But there are plenty of ways to do that without being rude and patronising, and, importantly, without spreading the idea that there is anything wrong with daemons developing separate consciousness and autonomy. For some of us, like me, that was just sort of what happened and definitely way healthier for my brain than if it had not; but there's also nothing wrong with it being am active goal for someone if that's what both the daemon and daemian want.

[It also doesn't sound so much like an issue of how autonomous the daemon was, in the example you cite, but rather that the daemon was an asshole.]

[moonless-underdog]

I'm not a fan of being called "rude and patronizing" when I stated multiple times that if this is good and healthy for you, then it's fine. We both expressed our opinion and experiences, we both pointed the good and bad points of our concept of daemonism, therefore I think we're even. I'm afraid you missed the whole point on the last part, since the asshole wasn't the daemon but the daemian, for actively choosing to do bad things "because the little voice in their head told them so" instead of calling a therapist, but I guess people reading this will make their own conclusion. If a "simple" daemon can cause this, have a guess what a stronger entity like a tulpa could do on weaker minds - unlike yours, obviously, since it's quite needed at this point to state this tiny detail.

But for me, that's enough. I said what I felt was right to say, you'll keep giving your piece of advices and I'll keep giving mine. We both learned something from this discussion, which is good, so let's conclude it here.

Peace and prosperity, have a nice day.

[sundiscsandemptyciphers]

I understand that, but I am not a fan of having someone jump on a post of mine to be, in an entirely unsolicited way, rude and patronising to both myself and my daemon.

And no, I didn't learn something from this discussion- but I do hope you have a nice day too.

[moonless-underdog]

Then go on Facebook and post only on private groups. :) too bad for you if you're unable to learn from people with different opinions from you, I personally did and I thank you for this opportunity. Bye bye.

[mookaitewitch]

When i was 11 years old a book was given to me. It was called “The Golden Compass” and i devoured it. I read that book like there was no tomorrow. The world, the characters, the plot, and most importantly the heroine made my young self feel so empowered. It was no surprise that i “created an imaginary friend” after the concept of daemons. He was my best friend, he was actually my soul animated. Years went by and, unlike my other “imaginary friends” he did not disappear. I knew this was for life. When i was 19, more mature and as a practicing tulpamancer, i revisited the HDM fandom and realised that there are a lot of people who, like me, find comfort in projecting their daemon.

So this is the reason for this spread!

The questions are as follows.

1)   Is Dust flowing through us? Dust is the connecting link between human and daemon, the card won’t tell you about the amount of Dust, but more about your connections. Are you close? Are you drifting apart?

2)   Is our relationship balanced? There comes a few times when a relationship may have its bumps. Maybe the human is taking the daemon for granted, or the daemon sounds more like intrusive thoughts than daemon.

3)  How do we help our bond? This does not imply that you do not have a great bond already. The question will prove the balance, if it’s already here, and bring up a method to obtain it, if it is missing.

4)   Do i have to work on something? This is a question only for the human. Does the human have to be more sincere, or respectfull, etc?

5)   Does (D/N) have to work on something? This is a question only for the daemon. Do they have to listen more, or be more active, etc?

6)   Does our form match us? This is more towards the settled ones. It does not invalidate your form, it brings up methods or reasons to love your settled form

One last tip is the positioning. When i did the spread i had Denali sit in front of card 1 and i sat behind card 6 so to have the cards between us.

Have fun!

[moonless-underdog]