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Richie has grown far more than Carmy has in four seasons, and is a better suitor for Sydney 🤷🏾♀️.
Qimir remarking to Osha about the relationship between a master and apprentice being special is interesting for the logical inconsistency presented. It’s one of many moments where he appeals to her based on their shared past as Jedi, apprentices who had very intense relationships (or so it is implied with Qimir) with their masters, relationships which they regarded as “special,” only for them both to ultimately feel abandoned and let down by their masters. Appealing to the pain Osha feels by revealing something of his own pain.
Qimir who, as is revealed by his never having made any real effort to get to know Mae and the ease with which he moves on from her when a more appealing option comes along, definitely doesn’t seem to have regarded his relationship with his own apprentice as “special,” but who most definitely succeeded in perpetuating the cycle of harm that started with him and Vernestra with how he treated Mae. And Osha, who lacking full context of her sister’s past relationship with this man, Osha who spends the majority of the series telling herself not to care about Mae and that Mae deserves whatever bad treatment gets slung her way, Osha who is as self-oriented as Qimir is, doesn’t spot the logical inconsistency, because of the chord the appeal strikes in her thanks to her own personal situation.
never gonna get over how mae was treated as completely disposable in that damn show
Poorly drawn Mareep line
nothing canon era fic writers could come up with will ever be as cruel as modern au fic writers putting these guys in the most basic modern scenarios. like he was born to live & die by the blade, his story was over before it began. and you made him take the bus and work a 9 to 5 job
Osha joining the Dark Side was a triumphant moment.
The writer of the Acylote said that is how we're supposed to feel:
"You want to feel Osha’s triumph. You want to feel her joining forces with The Stranger...Even though they are standing there, looking out at the sunset, ready to conquer the world, the tragedy is we know they don’t."
Note: the tragedy is NOT that a lot of people died, but that the two can't be together (because of Plagueis). (interview here)
Now, if that doesnt absolve villains of their bullshit, I dont know what does.
Let me try inserting some other fictional baddies.
"You want to feel Walter White's triumph. You want to feel him joining forces with the Nazis......Even though they are standing there, looking out at the desert, ready to conquer the world, the tragedy is we know they don’t."
"You want to feel the Frey's triumph. You want to feel them joining forces with the Boltons. ...Even though they are standing there, looking out over the Red Wedding, ready to conquer the world, the tragedy is we know they don’t."
"You want to feel Anakin's triumph. You want to feel him joining forces with Palpatine. ...Even though they are standing there, looking out at the burning Jedi temple, ready to conquer the world, the tragedy is we know they don’t."
I have always said and will always say that the problem with 'liking the villain' isn't identifying with the villian or even having sympathy for the villain's motivations, it's forgetting that to be a villain, you have to have ***VICTIMS***.
#i am still in awe of the fact that leslye headland pulled out every incorrect equation time and time again yet still ended up w/#an incredibly compelling and interesting and exciting (for me at least) end result despite having all these fucked up insights along the wa#she gave us force ivf lesbians and the chosen one but as twins and sadder and then she said 'actually no they're not gay sorry'#MA'AM YOU ARE A LESBIAN#she gave us a father figure who loved his daughter so much. who was so selfish w/ that love that he destroyed her with it#she gave us a man who wished he was the hero while also knowing he's the villain. ARGUABLY ONE OF THE MOST INTRIGUING IDEAS EVER#and then she turned around and said 'yeah so sol is actually sexist against osha and steals her agency by letting her kill him'#WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT#IN WHAT WORLD. IS SOL A SEXIST.#she gave us a really interesting take on the 'jedi turned sith' character. goofy conniving hot sad down bad etc etc.#i think qimir is a multifaceted and excellent villain and i want more of him because of his complexity#and then she turned his LITERAL MASSACRE OF INNOCENT JEDI + OSHA MURDERING IN COLD BLOOD into a moment of triumph???#I THOUGHT THE POINT OF THE FINALE WAS THAT. IT'S SAD THAT OSHA FELL SO FAR. BC EVERYTHING HAS PUSHED HER OVER THE EDGE#I THOUGHT THE POINT WAS THAT SHE DESERVED JUSTICE BUT NO ONE GAVE IT TO HER SO SHE TOOK IT IN THE WORST WAY POSSIBLE#LIKE. IT'S A TRAGEDY BC SHE LOST HERSELF ALONG THE WAY. BC OF SOL. BC OF QIMIR. BC OF MAE EVEN. (?)#IT'S NOT A TRAGEDY BC HER REYLO MOMENT DOESN'T LAST. LESYLE HEADLAND WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU#watching the finale for me didn't feel like a moment of triumph it felt like osha had been manipulated into it & was accepting her fate#bc every time qimir has reached out for her w/ tenderness affection etc she's either neutral to it or ignores it. like....#idk i've read the entire season as her being totally uninterested but qimir being way too interested.#the fact that they filmed a series finale kiss absolutely blows my mind bc. in what world. is osha letting him kiss her.#i'm sorry i just don't see it. i see it from qimir's perspective/ his own desires but i don't see osha wanting that#she just lost her sister + killed her dad and now she's going off to smooch???? whack (@slutcoded-mandogirl)
God, yes. Not for a single moment has Sol’s death ever felt like a triumphant moment to me. It feels inevitable the way the climax of a Greek tragedy is inevitable. He had so many opportunities to save himself from the death that was coming for him and he didn’t take any of them, because taking them would necessitate him doing the thing he could never do, which was truly confront and reckon with his past wrongdoings, which in turn he could not do because he was so crippled by guilt that he couldn’t even look at his wrongdoings long enough to take responsibility for them.
And the other reason it feels inevitable and tragic is because of Osha. Osha, whom it becomes increasingly clear over the course of the show is a powder keg of pressurized negative emotions just waiting for a spark to set it all off, and her finding out that Sol was her mother’s killer and had deceived her about everything for the past sixteen years was that spark. When she kills him, it’s the culmination of her life falling the fuck apart as she’s forced to confront the fact that everything she thought she knew for the past sixteen years was a lie. She looks at him and think: you killed my mother, you lied to me, you let me think I was the problem, you let me love you knowing you had my mother’s blood on your hands. You lied to me and told me my sister was responsible for it all, and you stood there and watched as my grief and my hate and my guilt and self-loathing for not being able to stop loving her even as I hated her so much ate me alive, and all of it was a lie, all of it was for nothing, I spent sixteen years hating my sister for nothing! And maybe we could have reconciled, maybe we could have been a family again, but maybe we won’t be, maybe we never can be anymore, not because she killed our family, but because I’ve said and done things to her that she might never forgive me for, because of the lies you told me about her! And now you try and tell me you love me?! For sixteen years, I would have given anything to hear you say that you loved me, and you never did, but now you can say it, now that I know you have my mother’s blood on your hands? Only now?!
Osha killing Sol is not a moment of triumph. Osha killing Sol is the final destruction of her life as she has known it, her completely succumbing to her rage and grief, and I don’t think her rage or her grief will ever let go of her again. Because if there’s anything we know about Osha, it’s that she cannot let go of anyone she has ever loved. She spent sixteen years loving and hating Mae in equal measure, and hating herself just as much as she hated Mae for not being able to stop loving Mae even in the face of everything she “did,” and now, it’s going to be the same way with Sol. She will love and hate Sol in equal measure, and she will hate herself just as much as she hates him for not being able to stop loving him, even in the face of everything he did to her.
As long as Osha remains on the Dark Side, she will never be free. The Dark Side is like a hall of mirrors that shows you nothing but yourself. There is no healing within it, no truth. The path she is on at the end of the show can only lead her to further pain. I cannot imagine a second season of The Acolyte that did not portray Osha as completely embittered, constantly going back to pick at the sites of her old wounds, just completely fucking miserable, because it’s the natural progression from where she goes at the end of the first season. How is that triumphant? Osha is now a pressurized powder keg of bitterness and self-loathing; how is that triumphant?
And I… actually can buy that Qimir’s interest in Osha might be reciprocated, but omitting the kiss scene (which I guess would have taken place at the end after they got back to the unnamed planet) was definitely the right call, because it would have been so incredibly tonally dissonant with everything that happened in that episode. That last scene with Osha and Qimir feels so incredibly uneasy and ambivalent, because Osha does indeed look completely embittered, and Qimir… Qimir actually does look a bit uneasy, at least to my eyes?
My take is that in getting Osha to agree to be his acolyte, Qimir has sown the wind, and does not yet appreciate that he must reap the whirlwind. I looked at him and thought “My dude, do you really think you’re safe? She killed Sol, who was basically her father, with straightforward determination when she found out what he did. And following that, she embraced the harmfully self-oriented mindset of the Dark Side and agreed to let her sister be completely screwed over and thrown to the wolves to ensure her own escape. These are people whom she has known and loved for so long, and as for you, Osha’s had head colds that have lasted longer than she’s known you, so do you really think you’re safe?”
Like, Osha might turn out to be a lot better at this Dark Side thing than Qimir is prepared to deal with. I could definitely buy the eventual romance, but I feel like it would have been a textbook destructive romance, because that’s the natural place for things to go from here. And as for Qimir, he has 100% bitten off way more than he can chew with Osha.
some of you guys when the unreliable narrator is in fact unreliable
well his account of the whole ordeal seems to wildly lean in his favor. Which could mean nothing
So who's gonna make an animatic of Sol singing Hellfire from The Hunchback of Notre Dame to Osha/Mae?
Your anger betrays your thoughts.
THE ACOLYTE | 1.06: TEACH/CORRUPT
Sith Lords be like: I found it, it's mine.
Qimir: Wow. These Jedi keep leaving perfectly good apprentices lying around.
Qimir: Guess what, you're a sith now!
Osha: I have so many objections.
Qimir: Too bad. Here's your new wardrobe. Hope you like black :D
That's my helmet origin hill I'll die on.
Timeless design for predators.
No eyes needed in total darkness, has superior other senses. No eyes means most major part of human non verbal face to face communication is missing. Slightly too many bared teeth go brrr.
Alien skulls are also probably immune to lightsabers, I'd bet my hide.
— franz kafka.
Sith Lords be like: I found it, it's mine.
Qimir: Wow. These Jedi keep leaving perfectly good apprentices lying around.
Qimir: Guess what, you're a sith now!
Osha: I have so many objections.
Qimir: Too bad. Here's your new wardrobe. Hope you like black :D
Qimir is such a creep loser and I just love it. He’s so lonely. He’s truly disappointed Mae didn’t realize who he was. He’s going online looking for someone to share in the dark side with him because no one else gets it. He was so frustrated when Mae dismissed the test he gave her as impossible. No I’m really clever actually, come on you just aren’t thinking about it right, I care, I’m rooting for you baby. He was so bad at hiding who he was, it’s adorable that Mae didn’t get it.