panlight

Panlight (noun)  Pan = all, light = Twilight. Panlight = All Twilight. Because Bella, Edward and Jacob aren't the only characters in the story.

[varenkaaaart]

old people

these two have been sitting in my drafts for ages just waiting for their moment, so here you go

[panlight]

How do we feel about Edward killing Charles Evenson?

Like, not morally necessarily, the guy was an abuser, no sympathy for him. It just always struck me as a strange and interesting choice on SM's part.

Because previously she had described Edward's vigilante era as him taking out people who were actively doing harm. He was preventing other people being killed by killing the would-be killers. He would hear in their minds what they were planning and then he would take them out before they could do it.

But Charles? That's revenge. I mean I guess it's possible he's still out there being cruel and abusive, but that's not why Edward killed him. Edward sought him out. He didn't like, just happen to cross his path and overhear that he was planning to do something bad. It's pretty clear he hunted him down to avenge Esme.

Like I said, interesting!

There's also the timing of it? Edward leaves in 1927. Esme has been with the family since 1921. So that's six years. If Esme wanted revenge, she had plenty of time to do it herself like Rosalie did. The fact that Charles was still alive six years into Esme's vampiric existence suggests, to me, that she didn't care about revenge.

IDK it's just interesting to me. Like SM wanted this shining moment of Edward avenging his beloved mother but the mother herself didn't seem interested in that kind of revenge so who was he really doing this for?

[givememtnspls]

Olympic National Park, Second Beach Trail - 35mm

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Gonna be drawing my office AU Edy with glasses & freckles from now on hehe

[panlight]

Renesmee . . .

Has a bright and beautiful future ahead of her.

Will lead the shadowy half-life of a vampire, the kind Rosalie resents.

Will be less isolated than a vamp bc she doesn't sparkle, but still limited.

IDK man eternity will eventually get monotonous and miserable.

Will make the best of it.

Don't mean to be a bummer but the Volturi will kill them all.

Better than her parents' lives. At least she will reach full adult development.

It. Will. Be. HAPPY! AND! PERFECT! and I will not hear otherwise.

Will go on a vigilante murder spree like dear old Dad.

Will have twins w/ Jake so powerful they take down the Volturi.

Other?

What the hell is a 'Renesmee?'

Remaining time: 5 days 17 hours

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Bull kelp

[the-deef]

Twilight, and it's basically the same except the love triangle is Jessica, Rosalie and Leah. And it would be an actual triangle too.

i've grown from making niche twilight yuri to twilight yuri that's never been heard of before. All using the smallest farm of clips ever imaginable. But will that stop me? No way. I just regroup for a sec and go again.

I have no idea what the ship names would be. Maybe Jessalie? And I don't have a clue what the name for Leah and Jessica is, and what all three would be hmm

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How far does the pack imprint protection thing go? Is it a biological imperative or just a strong cultural taboo to hurt another shifter's imprint (possibly because it would cause in-fighting)? Because, the shifters just put up with dozens of vampires eating humans to protect ONE imprint. Jacob becomes friends with the vampires! Even if you're biologically required to not HARM someone that doesn't mean that you have to just agree to anything that they do. I know that the real answer is Main Character Specialness but if you had to try and logic out the whole thing?

What always stuck me as odd about this whole thing is like, yeah, most cultures have laws against hurting and killing people?? Did they need an extra one for imprintees? "Hey, don't hurt or kill people but ESPECIALLY not these specific girls." Also there's something icky about the idea that they are a protected class because of who they are to a man vs who they are as a person in their own right and that these Indigenous characters needed a special law not to hurt women and girls. Not great.

Again, it's one of those things that seemed especially designed for the Jacob and Renesmee situation. There was no reason they would need a special law to protect your average Quileute girls who were the subject of imprinting before. They would already be familiar to the group and their whole mission is to be protectors. But boy howdy is that "you can't hurt someone's imprint, it's our most sacred law" convenient when that imprint is a blood-drinking half-vampire potential abomination that everyone wanted dead five minutes ago.

And the thing is, the whole moral quandary around Renesmee and the visiting vampires could have at least been interesting if any of the characters had been allowed to like, be more than "uncomfortable" with it. It comes back again to SM not being that interested in the Vampire Stuff. She likes the romance, she likes the super hero aspect, she doesn't really care about "hey this group of people is dedicated to the protection of human life; earlier in the SAME BOOK Sam says something along the lines of they 'protect everyone we can no matter where vampires plan to hunt.'" But none of that matters with Renesmee.

This is another one of those times, like the car chase, where the narrative is telling us like "there is no other choice, this is what they must do to save Bella/Renesmee" and implies it's lowkey noble that they are willing to go to these extremes, to stretch the bounds of their beliefs, to do that out of love for them. But the books never really convince me that this was the BEST way let alone the ONLY way to help or protect those people?

I don't know where any of this is going other than, yeah, it felt contrived to force Jacob and by extension the rest of the pack to be on board with the assembly of the X-Men vampires. And for so many reasons this all feels like the least interesting way to go about any of this. The tenuous truce the Quileutes and Cullens came to in Eclipse after working together against the newborns (Paul and Emmett, Seth and Edward, Billy shaking hands with Carlisle after he treated Jacob) was way more interesting than the forced "one big happy family now!!!!" of imprinting. In Breaking Dawn, Carlisle basically tells Sam they don't need to show up for the confrontation with the Volturi, something like "don't get your family slaughtered for pride" and Sam responds that Jacob cannot abandon Renesmee and the packs cannot abandon Jacob. But he means LITERALLY. Because of the imprint, they really don't have a choice. I think it is, like you said, a biological imperative. Renesmee's destruction would equal Jacob's destruction and all the other wolves have shared the pack mind with him, so they are compelled nearly as much as he is.

And I . . . do not like it. It's gross they don't have any free will, but it's also BORING. Self-sacrifice means nothing if you literally don't have any other choice.

[stillwater67]

jam

[not-bella-swan]

twilight, new moon, & eclipse headers

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[panlight]

Maybe it's just me, but I prefer to visualize the sunlight situation more like how MS and L&D portrayed it than in from Bella's POV. Maybe it's because Bella's reaction isn't actually explained fully during Twilight, or maybe it's because it's been years and SM wrote the details differently in the more recent books, or it could be slight differences in human perception compared to vampire sight...Either way, it being reflective so bright that Edward looked like he was on fire makes more sense when compared to the 'ole "diamond" parallel (taking into account all the properties and effects that make diamonds so appealing to the eye)

I think it was smart for SM to go that route in the later books.

My suspicion is that, because the meadow scene was basically her just writing out the dream she had, in the original Twilight she was not willing to tweak it. She was married to the sparkling/glittering/diamond motif because that's what she saw in her dream. But as time went on and her lore developed more, she was perhaps a bit more willing to get away from what she literally saw in her dream (the beautiful glittering) and lean more into the idea that this 'sparkling' could look like a person on fire.

Because in the original Twilight the whole moment is kind of quiet and soft and Bella's dazzled by beauty. It's only in the later two iterations that we get the panic from Bella/Beau and it feels like SM was embracing the idea that this was a re-do.

Certainly the MOVIES just went with glittering, there's no way the effect used in the films (with which SM was heavily involved) would ever be confused for someone being on fire. It's prettier and subtler than that. But yeah, I think she eventually decided to lean into the 'on fire' idea more vs the tiny diamonds idea.

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Hoh stuff - May, 2025

[atreyius]

Bella Swan

Twilight by Stephenie Meyer

[panlight]

the stepheniesays livejournal is always such a fun trip down memory lane and reinforces why Breaking Dawn feels so weird when it comes to the Vampire Stuff.

Like this one:

Question 2: We've got an idea of everybody's track records except for Alice's.  Stephenie:  Oh! Track records on how many people have been killed by various members of the Cullen family.  I don't have a number count for you, I'll have to go back and kind of think about it, but nobody's record is very good except for Rosalie and Carlisle.  It's a lot harder than people seem to think, being a vampire. I mean, how would you be if you just couldn't eat food? I think you'd try now and then, I know I would.

I mean, is it, Stephenie? Because it's super easy, barely an inconvenience for Bella. And like yeah yeah I know, main character, mentally prepared, whatever but I'm way more interested in the "it's a lot harder than people seem to think" version of this story and we didn't get it.

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Also this:

Question 7:  So how do vampires find mates?  Is it like werewolves? Stephenie:  She wants to know how vampires find mates, it's like werewolves where you might - not all werewolves imprint, by the way, but where you just see someone and you know, or if it's like humans.  And it's like humans.  The difference is that after you meet someone and you fall in love with them, you don't fall back out of love with them.  That is a permanent thing.  But you still, it's not a first sight kind of thing. OK, with the book in the air.

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[panlight]

Occurrence of the term "True Mate/Mate" in the Twilight books.

I’ve said before I’m kind of fascinated how the concept of mates/true mates has become a mythology of its own in Twilight fanfic, but that I didn’t get that same sense from the actual books.  So I thought I’d do some PDF word searches to see how ‘mate’ is used within the series. Here are the results. Number of times ‘true mate’ appears in Twilight: 0 Number of times 'mate’ appears in Twilight: 0

Number of times 'true mate’ appears in Midnight Sun Draft: 0 Number of times 'mate’ appears in Midnight Sun Draft: 0

Number of times 'true mate’ appears in New Moon: 0 Number of times 'mate’ appears in New Moon: 12 Some of these are doubled “mate for a mate,” and all of them are referring to James/Victoria/Laurent and Victoria’s quest for revenge against Bella.  Number of times 'true mate’ appears in Eclipse: 0 Number of times 'mate’ appears in Eclipse: 7 5 of these are referring to “soul mates” (including Alice/Jasper, Jared/Kim, and Jacob/Bella), only two are specifically referring to vampire mates, and these 2 are talking about the Cold Woman’s revenge from the Quileute legends.  Number of times 'true mate’ appears in Breaking Dawn: 0 Number of times 'mate’ appears in Breaking Dawn: 17 Most of these are Bella describing the new vampires (ex. “Siobhan’s mate, Liam”), although there are 3 references to 'soul mates’ (one Rose/Emmett and the other two are Jacob hoping to imprint at the park). Aro calls Bella Edward’s “newborn mate” twice. Edward refers to Bella as his wife, not his mate.

Number of times 'true mate’ appears in Bree Tanner: 0 Number of times 'mate’ appears in Bree Tanner: 0

(“Ninja,” however, appears 7 times) tl;dr:  "True Mates" aren’t a thing in the actual books; 'soul mate’ is, but it’s not exclusive to vampires (imprints are referred to as soul mates too) and doesn’t seem to have any particular mythology behind it. The Cullens don’t tend to use the word 'mate’ to describe each other but Bella uses it to talk about other vampire couples and other vampires use it to describe the Cullens (or, well, describe Edward and Bella, at least. Eleazar refers to Edward as Bella’s mate and Aro refers to Bella as Edward’s 'newborn mate’).   Also, for contrast:  "eyes" appears in Midnight Sun Draft 285 times. “Vampire” appears 20 times. 

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A stump with a secret path