Paradene

20, Anti-Abuse/Rape, Anti-Contact Zoophile, Getting My Major in Geology

[impunkster-syndrome]

Would you mind explaining what “I'm an anti contact paraphile” means? Specifically the anti contact part? I’m having a hard time finding anything with my own research

Anti contact is being against contact for paraphilias that would cause harm for the paraphile or subject of attraction to engage in without avoidance or substitution. For example, I do not support sexual contact between a zoophile and an animal since that is animal abuse and can harm the animal. For a while people only talked about the "big three" being pedophilia, zoophilia, and necrophilia, but often that is from ignorance about how varied paraphilias are.

Some will pull the bad faith card and say it means being against any contact for any paraphilia, example being objectum/objectophilia (which are paraphilias with inanimate objects as the subject of attraction). However, I have not spoken to any actual anti contact paraphile who believes this. This argument is mostly coming from people who support things like CSEM, lowering the age of consent to be able to have sex with minors, animal abuse through training animals to behave sexually with humans, and more along those lines. They often call themselves "pro contact," "complex contact," "neutral contact," and "anti abuse" with such dogwhistles as "pro consent" when they think minors can consent to sexual and romantic relationships with adults. There are other dogwhistles as well, too that often do overlap with proshipper language like "anti censorship" since often fiction is how they can make it seem more okay for minors to engage sexually with the person who may be sharing that kind of fiction with minors.

I do want to point out that there are ways to engage in unethical and harmful contact for any paraphilia, not only the scary or extremely stigmatized ones. For that objectophilia example, someone may not own the subject of attraction and may not get the consent of the owner to masturbate with it if it is a personal object belonging to someone else. There's a lot more nuance to being able to talk about contact with non-harmful paraphilias in my opinion, but I never see anyone talk about it.

TLDR - If acting on your paraphilia can harm the subject of attraction, yourself, or the owner of the subject of attraction I believe that act is unethical and should not be supported. You can find healthier ways like substitution or avoidance to engage with some paraphilias, and with others it would be best to contact professionals and organizations like B4UACT if you feel like you will commit an action that does harm in some way (Such as CSA, animal cruelty and abuse, stalking, rape, lust murder, sexual cannibalism, and more).

[paradene]

The world would be such a better place if Anti-Contact Pro-Paraphila ideals were the norm instead of the exception.

Who’s up to start a movement!!!

(And how do we do that…)

[proshippers-against-censorship]

I know I said this in response to a different post, but I think it deserves a post of its own.

You are NOT anti-harassment if you make exceptions.

If you sit there and go 'well, yeah, it's bad to tell others to kill themselves.' and then turn around a yell 'TERFs kill yourself!' or whatever, you aren't anti-harassment.

Do I like TERFs? Hell no. Do I like Nazis? Hell no. Do I like homophobes? Hell no. And there are a million other people and groups and whatnot that deep down in my heart, I absolutely detest.

However, you are not the better person for telling them to kill themselves. You are not morally superior or whatever. You are not remaining pure or some shit.

What you're doing is half-stooping down to their level.

What you're doing is still telling another human being to harm themselves.

What you're doing is still harassing another human being.

"Oh but they did detestable things they're monsters" stfu. They're human, just like you. Denying that only avoids the bitter, harsh truth that anybody around you could be awful, that YOU could have been awful if even just one thing was different. Humanize the bastards. It'll only remind you to tread through life with some degree of caution lest you make decisions that lead you to being just like them.

[based-atticus]

Hello! I am a newly discovered zoophile (anti contact) and I was wondering if you had any advice for newcomers to the community? Thank you so much for running an informative anti-c blog; it's hard to find them out there. Have a great day!

Hello there, fellow zoo! I'm so glad my blog has been helpful, and thank you for the kind wishes :) Hmmm, there's so much advice out there that I could give, honestly, lol. I'm not sure if there's any specific advice you're looking for, so I'll just give three general tips if that's alright with you, Anon 1. Practice general internet safety. I know this seems mundane and like it may be common knowledge, but I've witnessed MANY people take this tip for granted. Especially when you're a paraphile, you can never be too careful when it comes to internet safety. Always be mindful of how much you're sharing about yourself on the internet! Try to avoid sharing information that may be tied to your real identity (unless you're one of those people who don't care if people know they're a para. Then by all means, lol)

2. Avoid the general zoo community. You may wonder, "But Atticus, I'm a zoo, why wouldn't I want to hang out with other zoos?". Well, unfortunately, the vast majority of the zoo community is pro-c. Really, the concept of an "anti-c zoo" is a very new one, and practically nonexistent to the greater zoo community. Most of them believe we're either misguided, self-hating bootlickers, or antis in disguise. They don't believe we could POSSIBLY make an informed conclusion on the ethics of bestiality. If I had to describe the zoo community in one word, I'd use the word "elitist". Many will actively demonize other paraphiles (ESPECIALLY zoosadists and MAPs. In fact, many zoos despise the term "anti-contact" simply bc it comes from the MAP community), zoos who are attracted to more unique species such as reptiles and birds are constantly left out of the group, the creation and distribution of ASEM is rampant in the community, and if you're against bestiality many members of the community will just straight up tell you "You're not a real zoo" or that "You're an anti pretending to be a zoo". It's just a very unwelcoming community that's filled to the brim with toxic, abusive people. You may hear of zoo podcasts and forums, but if I were you I'd avoid them. As someone who used to make the zoo community my home, you're better off sticking to the general anti-c paraphile community. Here, all paras are welcome, zoos of all types (whether you're attracted to dogs or lizards) are welcome, and the best part is: there's no animal abuse :)

(Also if you need some proof of my claims about the zoo community, here's just some snippets of their discourse surrounding Anti-contact zoos.)

CW for discussion of bestiality:

(Sidenote: God these physically hurt my braincells to read. The condescending tone, the blatant spread of misinformation, the mapmisia...eugh)

3. If you can, make a social media account dedicated to interacting with the para community. Whether that be a Tumblr blog or something else, find ways to get involved with the community, make connections, and discover new friends! Of course, know that it may take some time to build trust with the community, as being a paraphile on the internet requires a certain level of wariness when it comes to interacting with others, but over time as you interact with others and get your voice out there, you're gonna make lots of connections here :)

Those are the biggest tips I can think of at the moment, mostly based on my personal experience. If there's anything in specific you'd like advice on, please don't hesitate to let me know! Have a good one :)

[better-treatment-for-everyone]

I've realized something: Contact stances are completely useless in the grand scheme of things. They cause unnecessary division within an already marginalized community, and give people an excuse to be holier than thou about their "morals." The key thing to look for here is whether they're pro offending or not, as being pro-c doesn't mean you're instantly encouraging acting on your attractions, and anti-c's can hide behind their little moral façade and harm kids or etc.

So, for the sake of whatever activism I'm able to do here, I will focus less on contact stances and more on individual actions moving forward.

[based-atticus]

I personally think the problem here is that we've allowed this mis-interpreting/skewing of these stances to such a large degree that they seem meaningless at this point. In the para community on Twitter, this is not a problem. Which I imagine is because the limited characters makes it crucial to sum up your stance with one easy label, as opposed to Tumblr where you can go into as much detail as you want. If you say you're anti-c or pro-c on Twitter, it's crystal clear what you mean. On Twitter it's understood that it's in regards to paras that would cause harm if acted upon, and that's it. Obviously there are some people who lie and say they're anti-c when they're not, but compared to Tumblr the stances are pretty clear cut. This makes it easier for those of us who don't agree with the pro-c stance there to steer clear. That's kind how all "pro vs anti" stances are supposed to work (ie. fascist vs anti-fascist, pro-forced-birth vs pro-choice, pro-ship vs anti-ship, etc.) But on Tumblr some include paras that would not cause harm if acted upon which causes a whole slew of confusion. Others take a stance without even knowing fully what that stance implies (ie. someone labelling themselves anti-c, but still consuming abusive/exploitative content and not seeing a problem with it). The para community here truly does take it to mean whatever they personally interpret it as. Even offending/anti-offending probably wouldn't work at this point because everyone here would have a different interpretation of what "offending" is, whether that be due to regional differences or simple differences in beliefs. Like I personally believe watching gore/snuff is offending, but I've encountered tons of paraphiles who disagree with that. Personally, I still use contact stances to some extent to weed out obvious bad apples, and I don't agree that we should stand with those who may wish to perpetuate harmful beliefs (Fight for their basic human [or nonhuman] rights and the right to not be judged simply for being a paraphile alone: yes. But not for their ideology), but I agree with op that especially on Tumblr, it's crucial to do your research on someone before judging them on the label they use. This is why on my intro post I try to make it as vehemently clear as possible where I stand on the offending issue.

No hate to op btw these are just my thoughts on the matter