Best Kind Of Mess

✨often wrong and annoying✨ This is my mildly unhinged and very unorganized collection of things I love. My Ao3 is: LouderThanSilence.

[kimchiveous]

heyy, first post kinda nervos A little headshot rough art of the gays I made it in magma lolz, feel free to add me there @/kimchifien on magma!

[gumy-shark]

playing stupid games but im really bad at them so im not even winning the stupid prizes

[linskiiii]

Pipedream

[linskiiii]

Staring 💖

[linskiiii]

in each other's gravity

[venus-aster]

What if Neil and Jean didn't lied to the FBI about being friends since childhood?

What if it was the case ? What if Nathaniel had met Jean-Yves Moreau in Marseille when he was on the run with his mother ? And when Jean was sell to the Moriyamas to clear his parents debt, he begged Neil to take Elodie with him ? Because Jean hoped that Elodie would always be safer with his only friend that with their parents ?

And years later, Neil Josten has to deny Wymack offer.

"Why ?

- I have a sister. I'm her guardian. She's 14.

- okay. Bring her.

- what- ?

- bring your sister. Neil Josten."

Neil Josten has became a Fox, and with him, he has brought his "Sister", Noemie Josten

[butchdiary]

taking care of you

[cocotamarindo]

Sasuke's little sunshine 🧡

[eels-on-wheels]

boys be like "i know a spot" and then they take you to the mind palace part 2

[solflowers-and-solace]

Andrew and Renee really looked at their group of misfits and train wrecks, made eye contact and decided to divide and conquer.

[nijiuchiha]

@/rauvin_

[chaoticgremelin]

I find It kind of wild that people somehow think Kevin handled the whole 'Neil is actually Nathaniel' thing badly or in a wrong way, because I honestly cannot see It.

When he finds out, the first thing he does, as soon as he is able to talk to Neil in private, is tell him to RUN, bolt, save his life. They are going to lose the season, yes, It is going to suck, but Neil needs to run before It is too late.

Neil tells him he doesnt want to. Explains his decision to him. And Kevin....respects it. Because there is no good choice for Neil in the moment. He can stay and die or he can run and maybe delay his death in a few years. This is not a easy choice to make and Kevin respects and accepts whatever Neil has decided.

This doesn't mean he likes It or that he is fine with losing Neil. Just means that there is nothing either of them can do about the fact there are way too powerful people who want Neil's head on a silver platter.

Then Neil asks Kevin to not tell Andrew, and Kevin immediately understands why. He says with all the words: "Andrew wouldnt respect your choice"

Because Kevin understands there is no good or safe choice for Neil and he understands the least he can do is allow Neil to autonomy to decide.

Most of all, Kevin keeps Neil's secret. Not because he wants to keep It, but because Neil asked him to. Kevin understands this is the most he can do for Neil in that situation.

He cannot fight the Butcher, much less the Moriyamas (neither can Andrew). He cannot make Neil stop being Nathaniel. He cannot stop the people that are after him

But he can respect Neil's choice and keep his secret. So he does. Even If he knows this will make Andrew mas at him. Because for most of Kevin's life, he had all his choices made for him, because where Kevin comes from, keeping secrets was the most power he could ever have.

It baffles me that there are people who think he has somehow been selfish of done something absurd here.

[pharmercytechnician]

And then Kevin goes and says “you were always going to lose him” and Andrew RIGHTFULLY chokes him out.

Like dawg you’ve been hiding this for months. What in gods name prompted you to SAY THAT

[chaoticgremelin]

I love how we can "rightfully" choke someone almost to death in this fandom, well, not someone, Kevin, the official aftg fandom punching bag (ironic to say the least, taking in consideration what he was to Riko, but anyways....)

Lets start by the fact that the whole "you were always going to lose him" thing isnt even canon. As Nora has made It clear more than once, the EC is NOT canon anymore. So justifying that Kevin deserved to be choked based on something we dont even know will be kept in the books is a stretch to say the least.

Also worth to remember that Andrew KNEW Kevin had information on Neil that he didnt. It was Andrew who took Kevin to talk to Neil in private. He was very aware they were keeping something from him. He was also aware there were dangerous people after Neil and that Neil was a liar. It is not like what happened came out of nowhere.

You can understand why Andrew did what he did, you can understand the type of strong emotions Andrew was going through at the moment, but saying Kevin deserved to be choked for respecting Neil's decision is a fucking WILD take.

Neil's true identity and story were not Kevin's to tell. Neil was the one who made the decision to hide It from Andrew. Neil was the one who asked Kevin to keep his secret. Neil was the one who kept his identity a secret until the very end. Neil was the one who started receiving a countdown on his phone and decided to hide It from everyone. Acting as If Kevin is to blame here doesnt even make sense.

Also, I dont know in what barn yall were raised, but you dont go around telling other people's secrets just because someone else would like to know them. Specially since Andrew knowing or not knowing the truth wouldnt have changed much, except that Andrew would have gotten pissed at Neil.

But honestly, Kevin would have been better off If he had ratted Neil out. Then instead of getting mad at him, Andrew would have gotten mad at Neil and Kevin could wash his hands.

Instead, Kevin decided to respect Neil's decision and autonomy, which got him choked. And a huge part of the fandom somehow thinks he deserved It.

The funny part is that If Kevin had told Andrew the truth about Neil, the fandom would hate on him for 'not respecting Neil' and 'not giving him the right to keep his secrets'

There is just no winning for Kevin.

[pharmercytechnician]

Wasn’t aware the entirety of the EC wasn’t canon anymore. I was under the impression it was just parts of it.

I didn’t say he deserved it for protecting Neil’s secret. I was saying that if I were Andrew and Kevin had said some shit like that to me I’d have choked him too because that absolutely was not helpful and should’ve been an inside thought. It was necessary in the narrative though to show that Andrew will break his promises for Neil.

Knowing he might not have said that does change my comment a bit but at the end of the day, you can have your own opinion of a piece of media and I can have mine. ✨

I do apologize for tacking my opinion onto the bottom of yours though. It should’ve been tags instead of an addition to your post. It probably came off more argumentative than I thought.

[justsayfkit]

forgive me father for i am back on my bullshit

[inanotherunivrse]

In another universe, I am lovable

[pocket-deer-belly]

at some point in being autistic it becomes really clear that everyone wants you to come up with solutions to problems you've never been helped with

[dykekarkat]

i think there's an interesting trend regarding how often andrew is portrayed as refusing to do anything for neil without his consent even outside of sexual contexts. like removing neil from a situation he's struggling with or when neil is in a vulnerable state of mind re: injury/sickness/intoxication/etc. it's curious to me bcus i think a huge part of andrew's character IS doing things he views as necessary for the protection of his people regardless of what they feel about it. like if neil is injured/unconscious i dont think andrew's going to be debating if it's okay to pick him up without a yes. he's going to be doing whatever he needs to get neil safe/secure/taken care of, and i don't think he would hesitate or regret any of those actions.

and maybe that's just my interpretation of his character but i do think a lot of people often smooth out the complexities of andrew's relationship with boundaries / consent (which are most prominent in tfc but remains consistent throughout the series) bcus of the sexual violence he faces. like obviously andrew is very concerned with consent in sexual situations but he doesn't give a fuck outside of those if ignoring it is necessary. like he's constantly pushing and violating neil's boundaries in tfc not to mention the hold he has on aaron and nicky. and like even during moments of physical intimacy andrew and neil aren't always asking yes or no and that happens WITHIN tkm.

[pharmercytechnician]

Andrew grabbing Neil by the scruff of his neck to knock him out of a panic attack ✨

Works everytime 🫪

[chaoticgremelin]

I find It kind of wild that people somehow think Kevin handled the whole 'Neil is actually Nathaniel' thing badly or in a wrong way, because I honestly cannot see It.

When he finds out, the first thing he does, as soon as he is able to talk to Neil in private, is tell him to RUN, bolt, save his life. They are going to lose the season, yes, It is going to suck, but Neil needs to run before It is too late.

Neil tells him he doesnt want to. Explains his decision to him. And Kevin....respects it. Because there is no good choice for Neil in the moment. He can stay and die or he can run and maybe delay his death in a few years. This is not a easy choice to make and Kevin respects and accepts whatever Neil has decided.

This doesn't mean he likes It or that he is fine with losing Neil. Just means that there is nothing either of them can do about the fact there are way too powerful people who want Neil's head on a silver platter.

Then Neil asks Kevin to not tell Andrew, and Kevin immediately understands why. He says with all the words: "Andrew wouldnt respect your choice"

Because Kevin understands there is no good or safe choice for Neil and he understands the least he can do is allow Neil to autonomy to decide.

Most of all, Kevin keeps Neil's secret. Not because he wants to keep It, but because Neil asked him to. Kevin understands this is the most he can do for Neil in that situation.

He cannot fight the Butcher, much less the Moriyamas (neither can Andrew). He cannot make Neil stop being Nathaniel. He cannot stop the people that are after him

But he can respect Neil's choice and keep his secret. So he does. Even If he knows this will make Andrew mas at him. Because for most of Kevin's life, he had all his choices made for him, because where Kevin comes from, keeping secrets was the most power he could ever have.

It baffles me that there are people who think he has somehow been selfish of done something absurd here.

[pharmercytechnician]

And then Kevin goes and says “you were always going to lose him” and Andrew RIGHTFULLY chokes him out.

Like dawg you’ve been hiding this for months. What in gods name prompted you to SAY THAT