"This is not a bar fight, have some class"

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[colliding-supernovaes]

this was a shadow win at best:

- the fact that it was a jury win and the public didn’t want this

- they kept mentioning abba’s 50th anniversary, which lowkey made this seem planned

- this was the second highest number of televotes ever received and still the jury votes solved this

- the points were nowhere near Loreen’s score with ”euphoria” …THIS WAS ABOUT LESS THAN 60 POINTS

- you could literally hear the audience chanting for ”cha cha cha” and käärijä

- in conclusion: i’m a pissed off fin and i thought käärijä deserved to win

[thelastrogueone]

[kerosiiniviini]

if a country has like a 200 point lead just from the professional and unbiased juries you know something is VERY wrong with the entire voting system

[brightsunnydaysofcastamere]

My main issue with Sweden winning honestly isn't even about the song, it's the fact that the professional jury consistently rewards non-offensive pop music and punishes entries that are even slightly out there. Sweden just happens to be very good at making non-offensive pop music, which is why they win the jury vote so often.

The problem with that is that it encourages countries to send in non-offensive pop music in order to appeal to the professional jury, most of which will be very mediocre and boring to watch. If the people didn't get a vote, we wouldn't see entries like Finland or Croatia, and that's bullshit! Those kinds of performances are what people watch eurovision for! Nobody wants to see a non-offensive pop music contest. We want originality! We want fun! We want the professional jury to go fuck themselves!

Anyway cha cha cha should have won and I will die on this hill

[ahti-the-janitor]

Let me get this straight. Almost everyone here hates the jury. Has for years. You can see it here every year. People want only the public votes to count.

So people are not just upset bc Loreen won. They are upset because without the jury Käärijä would have won. He got so many votes from the public, so much more than Loreen, although she did good too in public votes.

People here always hated the jury. So yes, we are going to be upset when we can CLEARLY see that if it was only up to the public, Käärijä would have won by far.

So no, we are not just being sore losers. We just hate the jury. So this win feels like something the public didn't want, so it is not surprising that many are upset that Käärijä didn't win. The public wanted him to win. That is clear by looking at the votes.

[ratinthevoid]

you know what really pissed me off? Käärijä wanted to prove that finland can win with a song in finnish language. and it really could have happened. he had a huge chance to prove how important performing in native language is to finland and to the rest of europe. instead they made boring plain pop song IN ENGLISH won. crime

[ketrindoll]

Congratulations to Finland for winning 2023 Eurovision!!

And how nice of them to allow Sweden to host, cause it's cheaper that way

It's a fact

[cvvania]

EVERYBODY BETTER REMEMBER RICHTER BELMONT ISNT TREVOR AND SYPHA'S KID. THERES A TIME SKIP.

1476 -> 1792

Please, please keep this in mind. They're not to be alive. He's their. Great great however many between them grandkid.

[picqpie]

YES! I feel like that’s what the producers try to do and I really wish that isn’t the case. Ignoring canon of the original story can’t be accepted.

[picqpie]

Okay so ever since I’ve started playing Twisted Wonderland, I just can’t stop thinking that Ruggie looks so much like Dromi? Is it just me? Like, literally the first time I saw Ruggie, I was like “What is Dromi doing in this?” 😂  As an otome game player, I can’t unsee the similarities. But seriously, they are not only similar in their looks but also backgrounds. They both come from a place where “half-animal” people live. They are both sideckicks (or right hand men) of another character (Leona and Ignis). And in Japanese they talk the same way. Like, I can’t explain but they finish their every sentence with the “Sə” sound etc. If you played both games, I think you will understand me.

[thalfox]

OM Season 4: Non-Canon

[tagged for spoilers]

As I mentioned before, I no longer play the lessons as soon as they come out. And honestly, I'm not alone - there is no buzz after lesson releases now, no shared screenshots, no speculation, no theories.

It's just that unenjoyable, and it's why I am not doing theories for Season 4. No workarounds, no fixits, no digging for deeper meanings.

As far as I'm concerned, Season 4 is not canon.

Let's take Lesson 69 - I decided to actually play this one today as people were so upset about it, and I wanted to see for myself 😑

Belphegor is upset that he isn't spending any time with MC, that time is being taken up by the new characters (other classmates). This is true, but it's also shitty to put that on MC when, y'know, the player doesn't write the plot.

Mammon is worried about Simeon, as in the previous lessons, and seems to be the only one who is. We actually do get a nice scene with Mammon, with smooches if you want them but it's also an exact copy of a scene from an earlier Mammon devilgram (You Always Ride Shotgun, see pic comparison) ಠ_ಠ

There's a dig at Mammon of course (because it's anti-Mammon season), and the story gets railroaded onto one of the new characters instead. Cue cooking jokes with Solomon and Raphael - the angel who was on the side that fought against Lilith and her family.

Simeon blows off giving an explanation, and MC doesn't push it. Which with good writing would make sense, but here it looks like MC doesn't care.

Beel reveals he is jealous that MC isn't spending time with him. Again, due to the new characters. Again, the player did not write that MC should spend time with new characters instead of their legit family.

We find out Lucifer and Satan have had an argument. Then it is 2 weeks later, and MC is surprised(!) that Satan has been MISSING for those two weeks. Literally no character cared to look during those two weeks. We are expected to believe that Lucifer, who consistently put his family before duty, who demonstrated how much he cared for Satan, who had built a better relationship with him, did not care.

Beel reveals he is sad that Satan might not come back because now nobody will make him a drink that he likes 🙃

Barbatos reveals Satan is in the human world. He didn't check on him beyond that either, he simply opened a portal in exchange for tea. And there is no upset with the reveal, just an, "ah well, I guess we should go get him" vibe.

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It's one thing that season 4 contradicts stuff from season 1 regarding the past, and has "reset" characters back to how they were before MC arrived and got to know them.

It's one thing that season 4 contradicts stuff from season 2 and ignores character profess there too.

But the fact it ignores season 3... the season that literally happened just before this one, and all the character progression, MC being so much a part of their family that everyone, demons and angels, relocated to the human world to not lose them, Diavolo included; all the friendship building between Lucifer and Satan, between Mammon and Luke, between MC and Diavolo; the growth of Diavolo beyond petty antagonist, of Beel struggling with the trauma he still carries because of Raphael, Simeon opening up to MC more...

All of that has been erased. MC is a stranger. Diavolo doesn't care. Lucifer doesn't care. Mammon gets hated on and doesn't act like himself. Satan is now literally forgotten. Lucifer acts like there's no bad history between him and Raphael. Simeon refuses to open up, and MC doesn't care. Beel is mean. There are new characters that barely matter, and we get no one on one time - no family time, no romance, no friendships, nothing! - with anyone.

We spent a whole lesson climbing a wall for... nothing. I don't know who MC is meant to be anymore but it ain't my MC. Those aren't my demons, or my angels. It's so terribly written, it doesn't make sense next to any previous season, any old devilgrams, nothing. It's absolute 100 per cent bullshit.

And when you add in events that are stripped of romance, of even platonic care, cards that are impossible to get, fucking loot boxes... Why. Why would anyone bother with the actual game now?

Fandom aside, which does not require keeping up with the game, who is this game now for? It really does feel like either Solmare are purposefully trying to tank it, or they're so confident the first couple of seasons get enough newbs by the wallet that they can afford to sit back and shit out crap now 🙃

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And I say fandom aside because that doesn't rely on what happens in the game. Headcanons and fanart and fics and AUs are all much more rewarding to invest time and care into. Fanon can ignore a season entirely if needs be.

Not enjoying the game doesn't mean having to leave the fandom, by any means. But it still sucks.

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Yes events always have to reset characters for new players. But Season 4? With how difficult it is to get to? With the character progression that even a lacklustre Season 3 had continued, now abandoned?

Solmare has a track record of running games into the ground. It's sad that even with the success of Obey Me, they are doing the same with this game too.

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PS I haven't read the current event yet but apparently it's not great either, welp. Not that many of the events lately have been tbh.

I may have some Twisted Wonderland theories coming up tho, if folks are interested 👀

~

Further reading:

OM Season 4 = Anti-Mammon

OM: Loot boxes are back

[picqpie]

This is so sad. I'm still in season 3 but if this is what happens then I don't want to read any of it. Why am I investing my time grinding hard to get strong cards and upgrading them to pass the lessons if the game literally kills its story? What was thw point of getting emotionally attached to the characters? What was the point of developing the characters if everything was going to go back to square one? I'm just sad because I love this game so much. At this point it just seems like the devs don't care about the game itself anymore.

[picqpie]

Okay but listen! Am I the only one who thinks these characters are very similar? I mean Jiwoo and Satan are definitely two sides of the same coin. Blondies ✔️,  Bookworms ✔️, Angry tsunderes ✔️.  Saeki on the other hand, even though his character traits are definetely different, he looks so much alike. Literally the first thing I thought when I saw Saeki in Collar x Malice was how much he looked identical to Satan 😄

[picqpie]

I just got this card from x10 free pulls from Devil Day nightmare 🥰 And the fully voiced Devilgram story was sooo cute ❤️❤️ Thanks gacha Gods. I hope to get Beelzebub’s card in part 2 ❤️

[abla-soso]

Shouto very rarely calls Endeavor "father" or “dad”, and usually does so when he’s under sever emotional distress, and almost never to Endeavor’s face. 

This, however, is the very first time he called Endeavor ‘father’ calmly, deliberately, and to Endeavor directly.

I think - deep down -  Shouto fears that his father is still feeling suicidal over Touya and might let Touya kill him to ‘atone’ for his sins. I think that’s part of the reason why he kept insisting to Endeavor that they must work together to stop Touya. 

[abla-soso]

Not this stupid fandom glorifying Lady Nagant and demonizing Hawks when it’s Lady Nagant who assassinated helpless villains coldly and with no hesitation while Hawks was the one who tried to avoid killing a villain and only did it when he literally had no other choice

You can’t justify this stupid take by claiming that the difference between them is Lady Nagant eventually felt guilt, because Hawks felt guilty about killing Twice too! 

You can’t even justify this stupid take by claiming that Hawks was a blindly loyal soldier to the HC and Lady Nagant wasn’t, because that’s completely false and backwards. Lady Nagant was the blindly loyal soldier and that’s what made her snap. Hawks was the one who defied the direct orders of the HC whenever he could. 

Is it because Lady Nagant turned against the HC and “freed” herself? Are we forgetting that her “freedom” came at the cost of her murdering a - supposedly - corrupt hero? Is that what you wanted Hawks to do? Murder a corrupt hero? So murder is ok and can be justifiable now? Then why are you bitching about Hawks killing Twice?! 

Killing a corrupt hero for your own benefit is totally fine and even admirable but killing a remorseless terrorist who insisted on his genocidal mission is evil and unjustifiable? 

[zo-mbiegirl]

couple of lil eurovision memes for ur viewing pleasure

[leontarius]

Eurovision 2021 Sum Up

[picqpie]

At the beginning of the televote results, it was like: You get a 0, you get a 0, everyone gets a 0! 😂

Not gonna lie, I thought "WTF?! Is this a fucking joke?" 🤣

I feel so sorry for UK, Germany, Spain and The Netherlands. They didn't deserve 0 points at all. No one really voted for them?