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I ACTUALLY POSTED IT OH MY GOD
An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works
Jax has something to tell Ragatha. based on the Zootopia Abortion comic by Borda.
Brilliant way to start the new year.
silly little crackship
emily (co09) x brittany (mpgis)
toxic blonde yuri
THE MOST POPULAR GIRLS IN SCHOOL PLUS CLASS OF 09 I AM IN THE RIGHT TIMELINE
You should watch the video about the characters I'm attacking
Wow I wonder what he's saying.
Cillian: “Kash, I will not say this again if you’re going to put your feet on my grandparents' furniture at least take your shoes off…”
Kash: *Not listening* “You kids know nothing about hurting, try wanting to be the opposite gender, like Milo.”
Briar: “Yeah, I know exactly how that feels….”
Kash: *Once again not listening* “Yeah whatever Cillian’s sickly girlfriend said, what was your name, Brian? Weird name for a girl.”
Biar: “….”
If Cillian looks weird it's bc mid sketch I had an art crisis where I started wondering if I had same face syndrome so in a panic I made Cillian's eyes oval shaped and gave him thicker brows.
Jax, Ragatha, Ribbit and Kaufmo as this:
unshaded version cuz I’m impatient>:)
THE BOTTLE OF STUPID SAUCE AND POMNI BEING THE BABY I'M DEAD
Once Art Fight is finished I need to draw this as them but with my bunnydoll child.
Familal yumeshipping but you're their child is divorce and you watch them fight over whose house you're staying at during the weekend. (Me with Jax and Ragatha)
Not me protecting, I made it more dramatic hope it doesn't mater
I'M ACTUALLY LAUGHING SO MUCH HARD I CAN'T BREATH
Vlog you have no idea how much this means to me thank you (The green button eye looks good on her actually.) Poor little Taffeta watching her parents fight all day.
Taffeta based on how they're fighting you won't be taking that biology test until tomorrow.
Gang is so doomed you can use them as face claims for the doomed trio in the book you're reading.
Ragatha is gonna be the girl everyone hates and Kaufmo will be the jailbird.
Desperate times 
I need an au / fic about this...
Let’s just say, episode 9 changed my perspective of episode 5 and 6. It explains Ragatha’s behaviors towards Jax getting close with Pomni and she said “Jax is corrupting her”. I thought corrupting meant Pomni changing for bad, not literally
So she has been trying to protect her, to not the history repeat
After all, she lost her friends because of JAX
Funnygummy again yeah 🐊
The ep.9 Jax and Ribbit talk but it's Jax and Ragatha.
And Ragatha is transmasc
EVERYONE GET TRANSMASC NOWWW
Yeah what he said.
The ep.9 Jax and Ribbit talk but it's Jax and Ragatha.
And Ragatha is transmasc
During a con, Goose said Kaufmo was originally gonna be in the main cast but when she wrote Ragatha she realized she had:
1. Too many main cast members
2. Two characters who were too similar to each other
But turns out Kaufmo didn't have to be completely thrown away, he could be used to reveal something about the world building.
Digital Circus fandom so I need to ask you a question.
How do you think the show would have been if in the pilot, Kaufmo lived but Ragatha abstracted. Yes, Ragatha is still around the second longest and still used to be friends with Jax, Ribbit, and Kaufmo.
A part of me kinda doubt the show would be the exact same, yeah Kaufmo and Ragatha were known as the positive ones but they clearly had their own personalities, backstories, and dynamics with characters.
Well, if Jax's mindscape has any merit, I think the Jax we've seen throughout this entire series would cease to exist. He’d be meaner. His pranks would likely go from unwanted teasing/bullying to straight up cruelty, turning the circus into something of a hostile environment where the cast have to walk on eggshells. I can imagine he’d be something of a ticking time bomb, everyone knows he’s grieving but his violence has been upscaled dramatically.
Maybe Ragatha’s abstraction shakes the circus up enough to directly interfere with Kaufmo’s turmoil, and as a result his abstraction. Though, perhaps farther down the line, his mental state would only worsen, resulting in abstraction either way.
However, if Kaufmo does survive for the long run, because he is similar in personality to Ragatha, he’d probably act as Pomni’s escort in place of Ragatha in the earlier episodes. Maybe Pomni’s arrival also keeps Kaufmo from abstracting by giving him a sense of purpose.
Though even with Kaufmo befriending her, I can imagine that arriving after Ragatha’s abstraction would still ultimately result in a worse experience for Pomni. For one, she would be seeing Jax at his absolute worst if he were to become excessively volatile. That and she is being introduced to the circus under Jax and Kaufmo’s relationship vs Jax and Ragatha’s.
Pomni’s experience is going to be heavily reliant on how tense things are between Jax and Kaufmo.
Based on episode 9 and the few bits and pieces we get from the series, I’m thinking Jax’s relationship with Kaufmo was more strained after Ribbit’s death than it was with Ragatha. Meaning Pomni’s in for an even more grueling first few weeks in the circus. If she even survives.
It could be interesting if Jax was also directly responsible for Ragatha’s abstraction, or maybe Kaufmo blamed him for it. Including Ribbit’s death. It would act as the same conflict seen between Ragatha and Jax; however, this time, he would likely not be pursuing Pomni as much, if at all.
Episode 5 especially emphasizes Jax attempting to befriend Pomni as a means to get under Ragatha’s skin initially. It's only later, in episode 6, that he genuinely develops a bond with her (but of course, he fumbles that too). However, with Ragatha gone, I’m assuming he’d double down on refusing to let people get too close to him. So, with that being the case, I’m not sure if he’d have any real incentive to engage with Pomni as he did in canon.
Pomni would likely see him as even more unpredictable and dangerous upon arriving in the circus.
Now, me personally, I would not be reaching out to Jax if he’s going to be showing his ass as he is in this scenario. But, let’s say the mask slips, and Pomni is intrigued enough to reach out to him, then maybe we’d have something akin to episode 9 where Jax loses his whole mind and decides to choke Pomni out. That might actually keep her from trying again.
I can imagine Kaufmo might be a little more hostile than Ragatha was. He’d likely be more accusatory and consistently attempt to ward her away from Jax, or even get into physical altercations. But that last one doesn’t have any real evidence to back it because the show presents Kaufmo as nothing but a reasonable dude.
That kinda sucks in hindsight. I wish we got to see what exactly made Jax tell Pomni that people behaved horribly before abstraction. But nah, guess it just looks like Jax lied—not unusual at all for his character, now is it?
But anyway, I’m choosing to believe that Ragatha’s abstraction would bring out the worst in the circus.
Like even outside of Jax, Ragatha has acted as an anchor for the cast. Her abstraction is going to make the entire atmosphere of the circus do a complete 180. Regardless of the extremity of Jax’s behavior.
Everyone, besides Kinger, has now lost the person who was essentially a part of the circus. In the sense that she was here for everyone’s beginning, and likely treated everyone similarly to Pomni.
This means she probably was the one to introduce and acclimate everyone to the circus, especially if Kinger’s mental state had deteriorated before Kaufmo or Ribbit’s arrival. Though the show also doesn’t touch on how drastically Kinger’s mental health changed throughout her nine years in the circus (yay, love that!)
For the sake of this, I’m going to say by the time Ribbit and Kaufmo arrived, Kinger’s mental health was either similar or on the way to being as it is currently. Which really just solidifies my thoughts that Ragatha was the one who attempted to keep the circus stable.
While we see her practice is faulty and characters have a hard time gauging the sincerity of her actions occasionally, it would still be devastating to all of them.
The person who made themselves readily available, appeared steadfast in their optimism (despite the hellish nature of the circus), and has been there years before your own arrival has suffered the same fate as every single person who essentially died before you.
She gave up. Nine years in the circus and even she couldn’t make it. So what hope do you have?
That’s essentially how I see it, and the result leaves a horrifically depressing atmosphere in its wake. No one’s checking up on you, no one's there to keep the peace, and no one has anything positive to say, as Jax said in episode 8.
Kinger would likely take it especially hard as well. Even if he suffers from memory loss, he is actively seen within the show seeking Ragatha out. He’s used to her presence and used to her willingness to help.
The show, once again, doesn’t touch on their relationship before the main cast’s arrival, but episode 6 proves just how meaningful their relationship is. And if we go with the popular headcanon that Ragatha and Kinger have a father-daughter relationship, Kinger basically lost his kid. How do you think this man is going to feel knowing he lost his kid and wife to the amazing digital hellhole?
And if his memory lapses and he still expects to find Ragatha within the circus, everytime he goes to scout her out, he is going to find nothing. He asks where she is and the cast simply can’t provide an answer for him.
Then top that off with Jax’s crazy ass, and The Amazing Digital Circus is probably going to look a lot closer to I Have No Mouth And Must Scream.
Yay, I wrote a whole college essay for TADC! Yay! So happy, so wonderful! Hurray!
This is such a cool and insightful essay about how Ragatha is the glue keeping everyone together. Good job.
I imagine Kaufmo wouldn't be as overbearing as Ragatha, but an optimistic supporter for Pomni in this universe. He still tries keeping Jax from Pomni because of his growing cruel behavior after Ragatha abstracts.
Yeah Jax would probably still abstract ouch.
Thank you!
I think you make an interesting point about Kaufmo and his dynamic with the group as well. I agree; I don't think he'd be as overbearing as Ragatha, as she is presented with an almost obsessive need to bear the responsibility of anything and everything that goes on within the circus.
She directs a lot of blame inward, and as Kinger said, attempts to do a lot of the heavy lifting in relationships, even when it's not expected or necessarily wanted from her.
Even though Goose said that the pair were similar in personality, episode 9 has Kaufmo as more mellow. That might just be due to his lack of screentime, but in general, he does read to me as someone who is less anxious than Ragatha.
However, he also didn't seem to read too deeply into Jax and Ribbit's friendship. By this, I mean he understands how close Jax and Ribbit are- undoubtedly so- but I feel like he isn't necessarily concerned with the intricate details of their relationship.
It doesn't seem like he approached either of the two after he interrupted their talk in Ribbit's room. He also says:
"...we were friends, but I know you two were especially close...."
This line is a little interesting to me. Of course, they are friends, and Jax is shown to have been close to Ribbit and Kaufmo, but the language and especially the tone isn't conveying a super close bond to me.
I know grief could be a simple reason why Kaufmo sounds subdued, but to me, it doesn't convey the exact emotion for me to assume the characters have a grounded enough relationship to confide in one another.
I might not be making sense, but I'll try to explain a bit more.
While the show explicitly states that Ribbit and Jax are closer, the level of trust between them—specifically, the amount Jax is willing to give —is unstable. Jax's lack of trust is what directly causes his spiral and the downfall of some of the other characters.
With the amount of effort it took for Ribbit to trust Jax, or at least the effort the show implies it took, I'm not sure if Kaufmo was able to meet that level at the halfway point.
The scene immediately after Kaufmo's previous line is Ragatha attempting to comfort Jax after Ribbit's abstraction. However, unlike Kaufmo, Jax does not dismiss her with snark; he instead makes her promise to never mention Ribbit again.
A promise like that is an absurdly massive deal! Ragatha specifically tells him that it's okay to reach out to her, and, as twisted as it is, Jax has some level of trust with Ragatha that he genuinely expects her to keep her promise and never mention Ribbit.
Which she does.
As far as Jax knows, Ragatha has never mentioned Ribbit. She got close in episode 5—or at least he assumes she does—but still, the point remains: Jax legit thinks Ragatha has never and will never mention Ribbit again.
To me, that comes off as Jax does trust Ragatha more than Kaufmo. And I think the rest of the cast might have similar sentiments towards Kaufmo.
While I can't say this definitely because the show doesn't give us much on Kaufmo's dynamic with the rest of the cast, I find it worthwhile to mention that Gangle also was anxious for fake laughing at one of Kaufmo's jokes.
There seems to be a strain on the relationship, likely due to the drop in his mental health before abstraction. Despite this, Gangle seemed genuinely distressed and surprised that Kaufmo abstracted.
If that is her first time seeing an abstraction, it could also be the reasoning behind her reaction. However, while short, the funeral does imply that Gangle did care about Kaufmo.
There's not much to pinpoint about Zooble and Kaufmo's relationship either, but they were the ones to set up the funeral in the absence of the others.
Zooble was likely on decent terms with Kaufmo. However, I think that was the case for anyone besides Jax who intentionally went out of their way to cause trouble for them and the others.
I don't think they bonded too strongly with anyone beyond acquaintanceship until they developed something more with Gangle.
Though, once again, it caught my eye that Zooble was the one who took the initiative to set up the funeral. Not only that, but they were the ones to comfort Ragatha, offering her a shoulder touch. (*Miles Morales voice* Hey~)
However, I'm just noticing that there are multiple little moments sprinkled in the show of the two of them displaying a more subtle bond.
Kudos to @winterpeta1s for the images.
Once again, I can't definitively say if the characters would behave similarly to Kaufmo, like with Ragatha, as we just don't see it.
But, as of now, I think that while Kaufmo would definitely be less overbearing than Ragatha, I'm not sure if the cast would trust him any more.
I think Kaufmo could be easier to talk to during a post-abstracted Ragatha circus; that is to say, that his mental health doesn't nosedive into the nearest cellar. If he's sane but more bitter and irritable (especially towards Jax), I think the characters could find him more sincere and/or read his behavior a bit better.
However, I'm thinking Ragatha provides a sense of security that Kaufmo simply can't. Maybe it's because she has been there for everyone's beginning (minus Kinger). She knows things, and given that Zooble knows how to initiate the funeral, Ragatha likely taught them that and much more.
If she's been in the circus for nine years, it's only logical that the characters have learned something from her.
Not to say that Kaufmo can't also teach the cast new things to help them adapt. I certainly believe he's the type who likes to keep things light and fun for everyone. He likely used jokes to keep people happy, but, like with Ragatha, overthinking might've been the thing to bite him in the ass.
If he's insecure enough to notice that the others fake laugh at his joke, and the characters are aware of this, Kaufmo might not be as stable of a foundation as Ragatha is.
He'll likely try to keep the peace, but he's probably not going to be as intentional as Ragatha. To jump back to my earlier point, I'm assuming this more from the slim moments we see before and after Ribbit's abstraction.
Even in conversation, Kaufmo is more passive, almost neutral in sense. One of the many critiques I have of episode 9 is that, while we finally get to see Kaufmo, there are multiple points in the flashback where he does nothing but sit and smile. He doesn't add to the conversation with Ribbit and Jax—he does absolutely nothing!
This could be argued as an intentional design, but I honestly think it's a writing flaw. But to avoid another tangent, I'm going to say it is intentional. So, while a good guy, Kaufmo is a little absent in emotional or deeper conversations. He's content with just sitting there in the company of friends without exactly providing much.
As written, the character was honestly giving "stereotypical guy friend". But not in the annoyingly macho jerk kind of way.
I discussed this with my friend, but it kind of seemed like Kaufmo could fit right in with male groups who can hang out for years without any of them knowing each other's names. You know, the ones where dudes have to wait for someone else to mention their friend's name because they're too stubborn to ask? Yeah, those ones.
That's real, btw. Had a guy friend confirm that—and, honestly? What the hell, man? What y'all brothers got going on over there? 😭
Kaufmo also reads to me as someone comfortable in his masculinity. Maybe you could also argue that this is another reason for the difference in trust between Jax's relationships with Ribbit and Kaufmo.
Since Goose states that she wrote and foreshadowed Jax with a transfem narrative, I think it's reasonable to see why Jax also leaned more towards Ribbit. While he does, unfortunately, mostly target all the women in the series, he did trust Ribbit most of all to divulge his past and trauma.
A little off topic, but I thought it was noteworthy.
All this to say, while I think Jax trusts Ragatha more, I still do believe he considers Kaufmo a more favorable companion. That is before he turned unpleasant, as Jax said in episode 6.
While Kaufmo is not exactly presenting any extreme toxic masculinity, I think Jax would still find any excuse to cope by doubling down on his own toxic masculinity traits.
In the event of Ragatha's abstracting, Jax would likely reinforce these traits, even worse after Ribbit's death.
Another point I'd like to add, that Ragatha abstracting means she died and kept her promise of never mentioning Ribbit to the grave with her.
Something Kaufmo did not do!
I fully believe Ribbit and Ragatha would be an extreme topic of conflict for Kaufmo and Jax. However, we'd likely learn more about Ribbit and Ragatha much earlier on because Kaufmo made no promises to stop talking about either of.
And he would most likely never agree to do so with Jax. Especially if we want to imagine a scenario where Kaufmo is actively more antagonistic to Jax.
Those two are for sure feuding. However, unlike the (entertaining for us, but exhausting for the cast) arguments we see between Ragatha and Jax earlier on in the series, I think a fight between Jax and Kaufmo would be more heated and especially messy.
I don't think anyone wants to be near them and would rather stay clear of the crossfire than get involved. Especially if the confrontations are violent ones.
Such beauty in your analysis.
Not to mention in this universe all the Bunnydollers are Meanjokers/hj We can't get enough of our divorced couples.
I like imagining in this universe Kaufmo and Pomni sitting together and him telling her all about Ragatha and Ribbit. Aw.
Thank you thank you! 🙏
No matter how bad TADC fumbled, I still keep coming back to pick at the scraps. SMH.
This is my meaning in a stagnant life.
Also, ain’t nothing better than a good divorced/ex-couple. That type of food will never be stale.
Though I’d actually cry if we got a scene where Kaufmo just got to sit and be happy with Pomni.
If anything, he might be even more comfortable if he sees some of Ribbit and Ragatha in her.
They might actually become really good friends. She could even help him open up emotionally and be more available in relationships.
However, the downside is that Jax is going to be an actual nightmare if he hears Pomni talking about Ragatha at any point.
He can’t emotionally handle it but can’t exactly do anything about it because Kaufmo never promised to not mention it like Ragatha did, and Pomni is simply acting out of curiosity and not maliciousness as Jax would probably take it.
Though, I do imagine that Ragatha is a sore subject in general, to the point, that people don’t talk about, outside of Kaufmo with Pomni. Kinger mag accidentally mention her, but the group might try to tiptoe around it.
Everyone besides Kaufmo likely refuses to mention her in front of Jax at because they don’t want to deal with his nonsense.
Imagine instead of Ragatha almost mentioning Ribbit in episode 5, we get the softball adventure but Pomni, after hearing Kaufmo talking about it before says something like:
“Is this Ragatha’s adventure? You mentioned she liked softball?”
Pomni mentions it easily because Kaufmo occasionally discusses it openly. It’s still a sore subject but he usually talks when he’s ready.
She’s expecting him to answer, because her question is directed at him, but Jax hears it too.
And the whole group goes tense as he turns to her.
“What did you just say?”
And Pomni is taken aback by his sudden attention and hostility. Before she gets a word out, he’s snapping again:
“Keep her name out your mouth!”
(Will smith moment)
Kaufmo will, rightfully, tell Jax to step his punk ass back. And maybe fight will ensue, one Pomni finds herself in the middle of, but now she’s a little disgruntled but intrigued by Jax’s extreme reaction to Ragatha.
Maybe if we want to make Kaufmo a little more confrontational, maybe he actively mentions Ragatha or make snide comments to basically rub salt in the wound.
Cue Meanjoke version of episode 5’s crash out. This time Jax leaves and Pomni and Kaufmo watches as he goes.
Bro this is so fun. I swear you’ve opened up Pandora’s box of yap.
I have opened Pandora'a box of yap and you will.
I'm going crazy imagining Jax and Kaufmo's episode 5 argument.
During a con, Goose said Kaufmo was originally gonna be in the main cast but when she wrote Ragatha she realized she had:
1. Too many main cast members
2. Two characters who were too similar to each other
But turns out Kaufmo didn't have to be completely thrown away, he could be used to reveal something about the world building.
Digital Circus fandom so I need to ask you a question.
How do you think the show would have been if in the pilot, Kaufmo lived but Ragatha abstracted. Yes, Ragatha is still around the second longest and still used to be friends with Jax, Ribbit, and Kaufmo.
A part of me kinda doubt the show would be the exact same, yeah Kaufmo and Ragatha were known as the positive ones but they clearly had their own personalities, backstories, and dynamics with characters.
Well, if Jax's mindscape has any merit, I think the Jax we've seen throughout this entire series would cease to exist. He’d be meaner. His pranks would likely go from unwanted teasing/bullying to straight up cruelty, turning the circus into something of a hostile environment where the cast have to walk on eggshells. I can imagine he’d be something of a ticking time bomb, everyone knows he’s grieving but his violence has been upscaled dramatically.
Maybe Ragatha’s abstraction shakes the circus up enough to directly interfere with Kaufmo’s turmoil, and as a result his abstraction. Though, perhaps farther down the line, his mental state would only worsen, resulting in abstraction either way.
However, if Kaufmo does survive for the long run, because he is similar in personality to Ragatha, he’d probably act as Pomni’s escort in place of Ragatha in the earlier episodes. Maybe Pomni’s arrival also keeps Kaufmo from abstracting by giving him a sense of purpose.
Though even with Kaufmo befriending her, I can imagine that arriving after Ragatha’s abstraction would still ultimately result in a worse experience for Pomni. For one, she would be seeing Jax at his absolute worst if he were to become excessively volatile. That and she is being introduced to the circus under Jax and Kaufmo’s relationship vs Jax and Ragatha’s.
Pomni’s experience is going to be heavily reliant on how tense things are between Jax and Kaufmo.
Based on episode 9 and the few bits and pieces we get from the series, I’m thinking Jax’s relationship with Kaufmo was more strained after Ribbit’s death than it was with Ragatha. Meaning Pomni’s in for an even more grueling first few weeks in the circus. If she even survives.
It could be interesting if Jax was also directly responsible for Ragatha’s abstraction, or maybe Kaufmo blamed him for it. Including Ribbit’s death. It would act as the same conflict seen between Ragatha and Jax; however, this time, he would likely not be pursuing Pomni as much, if at all.
Episode 5 especially emphasizes Jax attempting to befriend Pomni as a means to get under Ragatha’s skin initially. It's only later, in episode 6, that he genuinely develops a bond with her (but of course, he fumbles that too). However, with Ragatha gone, I’m assuming he’d double down on refusing to let people get too close to him. So, with that being the case, I’m not sure if he’d have any real incentive to engage with Pomni as he did in canon.
Pomni would likely see him as even more unpredictable and dangerous upon arriving in the circus.
Now, me personally, I would not be reaching out to Jax if he’s going to be showing his ass as he is in this scenario. But, let’s say the mask slips, and Pomni is intrigued enough to reach out to him, then maybe we’d have something akin to episode 9 where Jax loses his whole mind and decides to choke Pomni out. That might actually keep her from trying again.
I can imagine Kaufmo might be a little more hostile than Ragatha was. He’d likely be more accusatory and consistently attempt to ward her away from Jax, or even get into physical altercations. But that last one doesn’t have any real evidence to back it because the show presents Kaufmo as nothing but a reasonable dude.
That kinda sucks in hindsight. I wish we got to see what exactly made Jax tell Pomni that people behaved horribly before abstraction. But nah, guess it just looks like Jax lied—not unusual at all for his character, now is it?
But anyway, I’m choosing to believe that Ragatha’s abstraction would bring out the worst in the circus.
Like even outside of Jax, Ragatha has acted as an anchor for the cast. Her abstraction is going to make the entire atmosphere of the circus do a complete 180. Regardless of the extremity of Jax’s behavior.
Everyone, besides Kinger, has now lost the person who was essentially a part of the circus. In the sense that she was here for everyone’s beginning, and likely treated everyone similarly to Pomni.
This means she probably was the one to introduce and acclimate everyone to the circus, especially if Kinger’s mental state had deteriorated before Kaufmo or Ribbit’s arrival. Though the show also doesn’t touch on how drastically Kinger’s mental health changed throughout her nine years in the circus (yay, love that!)
For the sake of this, I’m going to say by the time Ribbit and Kaufmo arrived, Kinger’s mental health was either similar or on the way to being as it is currently. Which really just solidifies my thoughts that Ragatha was the one who attempted to keep the circus stable.
While we see her practice is faulty and characters have a hard time gauging the sincerity of her actions occasionally, it would still be devastating to all of them.
The person who made themselves readily available, appeared steadfast in their optimism (despite the hellish nature of the circus), and has been there years before your own arrival has suffered the same fate as every single person who essentially died before you.
She gave up. Nine years in the circus and even she couldn’t make it. So what hope do you have?
That’s essentially how I see it, and the result leaves a horrifically depressing atmosphere in its wake. No one’s checking up on you, no one's there to keep the peace, and no one has anything positive to say, as Jax said in episode 8.
Kinger would likely take it especially hard as well. Even if he suffers from memory loss, he is actively seen within the show seeking Ragatha out. He’s used to her presence and used to her willingness to help.
The show, once again, doesn’t touch on their relationship before the main cast’s arrival, but episode 6 proves just how meaningful their relationship is. And if we go with the popular headcanon that Ragatha and Kinger have a father-daughter relationship, Kinger basically lost his kid. How do you think this man is going to feel knowing he lost his kid and wife to the amazing digital hellhole?
And if his memory lapses and he still expects to find Ragatha within the circus, everytime he goes to scout her out, he is going to find nothing. He asks where she is and the cast simply can’t provide an answer for him.
Then top that off with Jax’s crazy ass, and The Amazing Digital Circus is probably going to look a lot closer to I Have No Mouth And Must Scream.
Yay, I wrote a whole college essay for TADC! Yay! So happy, so wonderful! Hurray!
This is such a cool and insightful essay about how Ragatha is the glue keeping everyone together. Good job.
I imagine Kaufmo wouldn't be as overbearing as Ragatha, but an optimistic supporter for Pomni in this universe. He still tries keeping Jax from Pomni because of his growing cruel behavior after Ragatha abstracts.
Yeah Jax would probably still abstract ouch.
Thank you!
I think you make an interesting point about Kaufmo and his dynamic with the group as well. I agree; I don't think he'd be as overbearing as Ragatha, as she is presented with an almost obsessive need to bear the responsibility of anything and everything that goes on within the circus.
She directs a lot of blame inward, and as Kinger said, attempts to do a lot of the heavy lifting in relationships, even when it's not expected or necessarily wanted from her.
Even though Goose said that the pair were similar in personality, episode 9 has Kaufmo as more mellow. That might just be due to his lack of screentime, but in general, he does read to me as someone who is less anxious than Ragatha.
However, he also didn't seem to read too deeply into Jax and Ribbit's friendship. By this, I mean he understands how close Jax and Ribbit are- undoubtedly so- but I feel like he isn't necessarily concerned with the intricate details of their relationship.
It doesn't seem like he approached either of the two after he interrupted their talk in Ribbit's room. He also says:
"...we were friends, but I know you two were especially close...."
This line is a little interesting to me. Of course, they are friends, and Jax is shown to have been close to Ribbit and Kaufmo, but the language and especially the tone isn't conveying a super close bond to me.
I know grief could be a simple reason why Kaufmo sounds subdued, but to me, it doesn't convey the exact emotion for me to assume the characters have a grounded enough relationship to confide in one another.
I might not be making sense, but I'll try to explain a bit more.
While the show explicitly states that Ribbit and Jax are closer, the level of trust between them—specifically, the amount Jax is willing to give —is unstable. Jax's lack of trust is what directly causes his spiral and the downfall of some of the other characters.
With the amount of effort it took for Ribbit to trust Jax, or at least the effort the show implies it took, I'm not sure if Kaufmo was able to meet that level at the halfway point.
The scene immediately after Kaufmo's previous line is Ragatha attempting to comfort Jax after Ribbit's abstraction. However, unlike Kaufmo, Jax does not dismiss her with snark; he instead makes her promise to never mention Ribbit again.
A promise like that is an absurdly massive deal! Ragatha specifically tells him that it's okay to reach out to her, and, as twisted as it is, Jax has some level of trust with Ragatha that he genuinely expects her to keep her promise and never mention Ribbit.
Which she does.
As far as Jax knows, Ragatha has never mentioned Ribbit. She got close in episode 5—or at least he assumes she does—but still, the point remains: Jax legit thinks Ragatha has never and will never mention Ribbit again.
To me, that comes off as Jax does trust Ragatha more than Kaufmo. And I think the rest of the cast might have similar sentiments towards Kaufmo.
While I can't say this definitely because the show doesn't give us much on Kaufmo's dynamic with the rest of the cast, I find it worthwhile to mention that Gangle also was anxious for fake laughing at one of Kaufmo's jokes.
There seems to be a strain on the relationship, likely due to the drop in his mental health before abstraction. Despite this, Gangle seemed genuinely distressed and surprised that Kaufmo abstracted.
If that is her first time seeing an abstraction, it could also be the reasoning behind her reaction. However, while short, the funeral does imply that Gangle did care about Kaufmo.
There's not much to pinpoint about Zooble and Kaufmo's relationship either, but they were the ones to set up the funeral in the absence of the others.
Zooble was likely on decent terms with Kaufmo. However, I think that was the case for anyone besides Jax who intentionally went out of their way to cause trouble for them and the others.
I don't think they bonded too strongly with anyone beyond acquaintanceship until they developed something more with Gangle.
Though, once again, it caught my eye that Zooble was the one who took the initiative to set up the funeral. Not only that, but they were the ones to comfort Ragatha, offering her a shoulder touch. (*Miles Morales voice* Hey~)
However, I'm just noticing that there are multiple little moments sprinkled in the show of the two of them displaying a more subtle bond.
Kudos to @winterpeta1s for the images.
Once again, I can't definitively say if the characters would behave similarly to Kaufmo, like with Ragatha, as we just don't see it.
But, as of now, I think that while Kaufmo would definitely be less overbearing than Ragatha, I'm not sure if the cast would trust him any more.
I think Kaufmo could be easier to talk to during a post-abstracted Ragatha circus; that is to say, that his mental health doesn't nosedive into the nearest cellar. If he's sane but more bitter and irritable (especially towards Jax), I think the characters could find him more sincere and/or read his behavior a bit better.
However, I'm thinking Ragatha provides a sense of security that Kaufmo simply can't. Maybe it's because she has been there for everyone's beginning (minus Kinger). She knows things, and given that Zooble knows how to initiate the funeral, Ragatha likely taught them that and much more.
If she's been in the circus for nine years, it's only logical that the characters have learned something from her.
Not to say that Kaufmo can't also teach the cast new things to help them adapt. I certainly believe he's the type who likes to keep things light and fun for everyone. He likely used jokes to keep people happy, but, like with Ragatha, overthinking might've been the thing to bite him in the ass.
If he's insecure enough to notice that the others fake laugh at his joke, and the characters are aware of this, Kaufmo might not be as stable of a foundation as Ragatha is.
He'll likely try to keep the peace, but he's probably not going to be as intentional as Ragatha. To jump back to my earlier point, I'm assuming this more from the slim moments we see before and after Ribbit's abstraction.
Even in conversation, Kaufmo is more passive, almost neutral in sense. One of the many critiques I have of episode 9 is that, while we finally get to see Kaufmo, there are multiple points in the flashback where he does nothing but sit and smile. He doesn't add to the conversation with Ribbit and Jax—he does absolutely nothing!
This could be argued as an intentional design, but I honestly think it's a writing flaw. But to avoid another tangent, I'm going to say it is intentional. So, while a good guy, Kaufmo is a little absent in emotional or deeper conversations. He's content with just sitting there in the company of friends without exactly providing much.
As written, the character was honestly giving "stereotypical guy friend". But not in the annoyingly macho jerk kind of way.
I discussed this with my friend, but it kind of seemed like Kaufmo could fit right in with male groups who can hang out for years without any of them knowing each other's names. You know, the ones where dudes have to wait for someone else to mention their friend's name because they're too stubborn to ask? Yeah, those ones.
That's real, btw. Had a guy friend confirm that—and, honestly? What the hell, man? What y'all brothers got going on over there? 😭
Kaufmo also reads to me as someone comfortable in his masculinity. Maybe you could also argue that this is another reason for the difference in trust between Jax's relationships with Ribbit and Kaufmo.
Since Goose states that she wrote and foreshadowed Jax with a transfem narrative, I think it's reasonable to see why Jax also leaned more towards Ribbit. While he does, unfortunately, mostly target all the women in the series, he did trust Ribbit most of all to divulge his past and trauma.
A little off topic, but I thought it was noteworthy.
All this to say, while I think Jax trusts Ragatha more, I still do believe he considers Kaufmo a more favorable companion. That is before he turned unpleasant, as Jax said in episode 6.
While Kaufmo is not exactly presenting any extreme toxic masculinity, I think Jax would still find any excuse to cope by doubling down on his own toxic masculinity traits.
In the event of Ragatha's abstracting, Jax would likely reinforce these traits, even worse after Ribbit's death.
Another point I'd like to add, that Ragatha abstracting means she died and kept her promise of never mentioning Ribbit to the grave with her.
Something Kaufmo did not do!
I fully believe Ribbit and Ragatha would be an extreme topic of conflict for Kaufmo and Jax. However, we'd likely learn more about Ribbit and Ragatha much earlier on because Kaufmo made no promises to stop talking about either of.
And he would most likely never agree to do so with Jax. Especially if we want to imagine a scenario where Kaufmo is actively more antagonistic to Jax.
Those two are for sure feuding. However, unlike the (entertaining for us, but exhausting for the cast) arguments we see between Ragatha and Jax earlier on in the series, I think a fight between Jax and Kaufmo would be more heated and especially messy.
I don't think anyone wants to be near them and would rather stay clear of the crossfire than get involved. Especially if the confrontations are violent ones.
Such beauty in your analysis.
Not to mention in this universe all the Bunnydollers are Meanjokers/hj We can't get enough of our divorced couples.
During a con, Goose said Kaufmo was originally gonna be in the main cast but when she wrote Ragatha she realized she had:
1. Too many main cast members
2. Two characters who were too similar to each other
But turns out Kaufmo didn't have to be completely thrown away, he could be used to reveal something about the world building.
Digital Circus fandom so I need to ask you a question.
How do you think the show would have been if in the pilot, Kaufmo lived but Ragatha abstracted. Yes, Ragatha is still around the second longest and still used to be friends with Jax, Ribbit, and Kaufmo.
A part of me kinda doubt the show would be the exact same, yeah Kaufmo and Ragatha were known as the positive ones but they clearly had their own personalities, backstories, and dynamics with characters.
Well, if Jax's mindscape has any merit, I think the Jax we've seen throughout this entire series would cease to exist. He’d be meaner. His pranks would likely go from unwanted teasing/bullying to straight up cruelty, turning the circus into something of a hostile environment where the cast have to walk on eggshells. I can imagine he’d be something of a ticking time bomb, everyone knows he’s grieving but his violence has been upscaled dramatically.
Maybe Ragatha’s abstraction shakes the circus up enough to directly interfere with Kaufmo’s turmoil, and as a result his abstraction. Though, perhaps farther down the line, his mental state would only worsen, resulting in abstraction either way.
However, if Kaufmo does survive for the long run, because he is similar in personality to Ragatha, he’d probably act as Pomni’s escort in place of Ragatha in the earlier episodes. Maybe Pomni’s arrival also keeps Kaufmo from abstracting by giving him a sense of purpose.
Though even with Kaufmo befriending her, I can imagine that arriving after Ragatha’s abstraction would still ultimately result in a worse experience for Pomni. For one, she would be seeing Jax at his absolute worst if he were to become excessively volatile. That and she is being introduced to the circus under Jax and Kaufmo’s relationship vs Jax and Ragatha’s.
Pomni’s experience is going to be heavily reliant on how tense things are between Jax and Kaufmo.
Based on episode 9 and the few bits and pieces we get from the series, I’m thinking Jax’s relationship with Kaufmo was more strained after Ribbit’s death than it was with Ragatha. Meaning Pomni’s in for an even more grueling first few weeks in the circus. If she even survives.
It could be interesting if Jax was also directly responsible for Ragatha’s abstraction, or maybe Kaufmo blamed him for it. Including Ribbit’s death. It would act as the same conflict seen between Ragatha and Jax; however, this time, he would likely not be pursuing Pomni as much, if at all.
Episode 5 especially emphasizes Jax attempting to befriend Pomni as a means to get under Ragatha’s skin initially. It's only later, in episode 6, that he genuinely develops a bond with her (but of course, he fumbles that too). However, with Ragatha gone, I’m assuming he’d double down on refusing to let people get too close to him. So, with that being the case, I’m not sure if he’d have any real incentive to engage with Pomni as he did in canon.
Pomni would likely see him as even more unpredictable and dangerous upon arriving in the circus.
Now, me personally, I would not be reaching out to Jax if he’s going to be showing his ass as he is in this scenario. But, let’s say the mask slips, and Pomni is intrigued enough to reach out to him, then maybe we’d have something akin to episode 9 where Jax loses his whole mind and decides to choke Pomni out. That might actually keep her from trying again.
I can imagine Kaufmo might be a little more hostile than Ragatha was. He’d likely be more accusatory and consistently attempt to ward her away from Jax, or even get into physical altercations. But that last one doesn’t have any real evidence to back it because the show presents Kaufmo as nothing but a reasonable dude.
That kinda sucks in hindsight. I wish we got to see what exactly made Jax tell Pomni that people behaved horribly before abstraction. But nah, guess it just looks like Jax lied—not unusual at all for his character, now is it?
But anyway, I’m choosing to believe that Ragatha’s abstraction would bring out the worst in the circus.
Like even outside of Jax, Ragatha has acted as an anchor for the cast. Her abstraction is going to make the entire atmosphere of the circus do a complete 180. Regardless of the extremity of Jax’s behavior.
Everyone, besides Kinger, has now lost the person who was essentially a part of the circus. In the sense that she was here for everyone’s beginning, and likely treated everyone similarly to Pomni.
This means she probably was the one to introduce and acclimate everyone to the circus, especially if Kinger’s mental state had deteriorated before Kaufmo or Ribbit’s arrival. Though the show also doesn’t touch on how drastically Kinger’s mental health changed throughout her nine years in the circus (yay, love that!)
For the sake of this, I’m going to say by the time Ribbit and Kaufmo arrived, Kinger’s mental health was either similar or on the way to being as it is currently. Which really just solidifies my thoughts that Ragatha was the one who attempted to keep the circus stable.
While we see her practice is faulty and characters have a hard time gauging the sincerity of her actions occasionally, it would still be devastating to all of them.
The person who made themselves readily available, appeared steadfast in their optimism (despite the hellish nature of the circus), and has been there years before your own arrival has suffered the same fate as every single person who essentially died before you.
She gave up. Nine years in the circus and even she couldn’t make it. So what hope do you have?
That’s essentially how I see it, and the result leaves a horrifically depressing atmosphere in its wake. No one’s checking up on you, no one's there to keep the peace, and no one has anything positive to say, as Jax said in episode 8.
Kinger would likely take it especially hard as well. Even if he suffers from memory loss, he is actively seen within the show seeking Ragatha out. He’s used to her presence and used to her willingness to help.
The show, once again, doesn’t touch on their relationship before the main cast’s arrival, but episode 6 proves just how meaningful their relationship is. And if we go with the popular headcanon that Ragatha and Kinger have a father-daughter relationship, Kinger basically lost his kid. How do you think this man is going to feel knowing he lost his kid and wife to the amazing digital hellhole?
And if his memory lapses and he still expects to find Ragatha within the circus, everytime he goes to scout her out, he is going to find nothing. He asks where she is and the cast simply can’t provide an answer for him.
Then top that off with Jax’s crazy ass, and The Amazing Digital Circus is probably going to look a lot closer to I Have No Mouth And Must Scream.
Yay, I wrote a whole college essay for TADC! Yay! So happy, so wonderful! Hurray!
This is such a cool and insightful essay about how Ragatha is the glue keeping everyone together. Good job.
I imagine Kaufmo wouldn't be as overbearing as Ragatha, but an optimistic supporter for Pomni in this universe. He still tries keeping Jax from Pomni because of his growing cruel behavior after Ragatha abstracts.
Yeah Jax would probably still abstract ouch.
Thank you!
I think you make an interesting point about Kaufmo and his dynamic with the group as well. I agree; I don't think he'd be as overbearing as Ragatha, as she is presented with an almost obsessive need to bear the responsibility of anything and everything that goes on within the circus.
She directs a lot of blame inward, and as Kinger said, attempts to do a lot of the heavy lifting in relationships, even when it's not expected or necessarily wanted from her.
Even though Goose said that the pair were similar in personality, episode 9 has Kaufmo as more mellow. That might just be due to his lack of screentime, but in general, he does read to me as someone who is less anxious than Ragatha.
However, he also didn't seem to read too deeply into Jax and Ribbit's friendship. By this, I mean he understands how close Jax and Ribbit are- undoubtedly so- but I feel like he isn't necessarily concerned with the intricate details of their relationship.
It doesn't seem like he approached either of the two after he interrupted their talk in Ribbit's room. He also says:
"...we were friends, but I know you two were especially close...."
This line is a little interesting to me. Of course, they are friends, and Jax is shown to have been close to Ribbit and Kaufmo, but the language and especially the tone isn't conveying a super close bond to me.
I know grief could be a simple reason why Kaufmo sounds subdued, but to me, it doesn't convey the exact emotion for me to assume the characters have a grounded enough relationship to confide in one another.
I might not be making sense, but I'll try to explain a bit more.
While the show explicitly states that Ribbit and Jax are closer, the level of trust between them—specifically, the amount Jax is willing to give —is unstable. Jax's lack of trust is what directly causes his spiral and the downfall of some of the other characters.
With the amount of effort it took for Ribbit to trust Jax, or at least the effort the show implies it took, I'm not sure if Kaufmo was able to meet that level at the halfway point.
The scene immediately after Kaufmo's previous line is Ragatha attempting to comfort Jax after Ribbit's abstraction. However, unlike Kaufmo, Jax does not dismiss her with snark; he instead makes her promise to never mention Ribbit again.
A promise like that is an absurdly massive deal! Ragatha specifically tells him that it's okay to reach out to her, and, as twisted as it is, Jax has some level of trust with Ragatha that he genuinely expects her to keep her promise and never mention Ribbit.
Which she does.
As far as Jax knows, Ragatha has never mentioned Ribbit. She got close in episode 5—or at least he assumes she does—but still, the point remains: Jax legit thinks Ragatha has never and will never mention Ribbit again.
To me, that comes off as Jax does trust Ragatha more than Kaufmo. And I think the rest of the cast might have similar sentiments towards Kaufmo.
While I can't say this definitely because the show doesn't give us much on Kaufmo's dynamic with the rest of the cast, I find it worthwhile to mention that Gangle also was anxious for fake laughing at one of Kaufmo's jokes.
There seems to be a strain on the relationship, likely due to the drop in his mental health before abstraction. Despite this, Gangle seemed genuinely distressed and surprised that Kaufmo abstracted.
If that is her first time seeing an abstraction, it could also be the reasoning behind her reaction. However, while short, the funeral does imply that Gangle did care about Kaufmo.
There's not much to pinpoint about Zooble and Kaufmo's relationship either, but they were the ones to set up the funeral in the absence of the others.
Zooble was likely on decent terms with Kaufmo. However, I think that was the case for anyone besides Jax who intentionally went out of their way to cause trouble for them and the others.
I don't think they bonded too strongly with anyone beyond acquaintanceship until they developed something more with Gangle.
Though, once again, it caught my eye that Zooble was the one who took the initiative to set up the funeral. Not only that, but they were the ones to comfort Ragatha, offering her a shoulder touch. (*Miles Morales voice* Hey~)
However, I'm just noticing that there are multiple little moments sprinkled in the show of the two of them displaying a more subtle bond.
Kudos to @winterpeta1s for the images.
Once again, I can't definitively say if the characters would behave similarly to Kaufmo, like with Ragatha, as we just don't see it.
But, as of now, I think that while Kaufmo would definitely be less overbearing than Ragatha, I'm not sure if the cast would trust him any more.
I think Kaufmo could be easier to talk to during a post-abstracted Ragatha circus; that is to say, that his mental health doesn't nosedive into the nearest cellar. If he's sane but more bitter and irritable (especially towards Jax), I think the characters could find him more sincere and/or read his behavior a bit better.
However, I'm thinking Ragatha provides a sense of security that Kaufmo simply can't. Maybe it's because she has been there for everyone's beginning (minus Kinger). She knows things, and given that Zooble knows how to initiate the funeral, Ragatha likely taught them that and much more.
If she's been in the circus for nine years, it's only logical that the characters have learned something from her.
Not to say that Kaufmo can't also teach the cast new things to help them adapt. I certainly believe he's the type who likes to keep things light and fun for everyone. He likely used jokes to keep people happy, but, like with Ragatha, overthinking might've been the thing to bite him in the ass.
If he's insecure enough to notice that the others fake laugh at his joke, and the characters are aware of this, Kaufmo might not be as stable of a foundation as Ragatha is.
He'll likely try to keep the peace, but he's probably not going to be as intentional as Ragatha. To jump back to my earlier point, I'm assuming this more from the slim moments we see before and after Ribbit's abstraction.
Even in conversation, Kaufmo is more passive, almost neutral in sense. One of the many critiques I have of episode 9 is that, while we finally get to see Kaufmo, there are multiple points in the flashback where he does nothing but sit and smile. He doesn't add to the conversation with Ribbit and Jax—he does absolutely nothing!
This could be argued as an intentional design, but I honestly think it's a writing flaw. But to avoid another tangent, I'm going to say it is intentional. So, while a good guy, Kaufmo is a little absent in emotional or deeper conversations. He's content with just sitting there in the company of friends without exactly providing much.
As written, the character was honestly giving "stereotypical guy friend". But not in the annoyingly macho jerk kind of way.
I discussed this with my friend, but it kind of seemed like Kaufmo could fit right in with male groups who can hang out for years without any of them knowing each other's names. You know, the ones where dudes have to wait for someone else to mention their friend's name because they're too stubborn to ask? Yeah, those ones.
That's real, btw. Had a guy friend confirm that—and, honestly? What the hell, man? What y'all brothers got going on over there? 😭
Kaufmo also reads to me as someone comfortable in his masculinity. Maybe you could also argue that this is another reason for the difference in trust between Jax's relationships with Ribbit and Kaufmo.
Since Goose states that she wrote and foreshadowed Jax with a transfem narrative, I think it's reasonable to see why Jax also leaned more towards Ribbit. While he does, unfortunately, mostly target all the women in the series, he did trust Ribbit most of all to divulge his past and trauma.
A little off topic, but I thought it was noteworthy.
All this to say, while I think Jax trusts Ragatha more, I still do believe he considers Kaufmo a more favorable companion. That is before he turned unpleasant, as Jax said in episode 6.
While Kaufmo is not exactly presenting any extreme toxic masculinity, I think Jax would still find any excuse to cope by doubling down on his own toxic masculinity traits.
In the event of Ragatha's abstracting, Jax would likely reinforce these traits, even worse after Ribbit's death.
Another point I'd like to add, that Ragatha abstracting means she died and kept her promise of never mentioning Ribbit to the grave with her.
Something Kaufmo did not do!
I fully believe Ribbit and Ragatha would be an extreme topic of conflict for Kaufmo and Jax. However, we'd likely learn more about Ribbit and Ragatha much earlier on because Kaufmo made no promises to stop talking about either of.
And he would most likely never agree to do so with Jax. Especially if we want to imagine a scenario where Kaufmo is actively more antagonistic to Jax.
Those two are for sure feuding. However, unlike the (entertaining for us, but exhausting for the cast) arguments we see between Ragatha and Jax earlier on in the series, I think a fight between Jax and Kaufmo would be more heated and especially messy.
I don't think anyone wants to be near them and would rather stay clear of the crossfire than get involved. Especially if the confrontations are violent ones.
Such beauty in your analysis.
Not to mention in this universe all the Bunnydollers are Meanjokers/hj We can't get enough of our divorced couples.
I like imagining in this universe Kaufmo and Pomni sitting together and him telling her all about Ragatha and Ribbit. Aw.
Such a beautiful condom commercial family photo.
Bunnydoll litter mass attack for art fight, putting it here bc apparently unmodified canon characters in attacks have to be cropped on art fight and the full version has to be posted to another place with a link in the description.
Credits:
The lilypatches twins are obviously mine.
The girl drinking out of the juice box is also mine.
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For some reason I'm really happy you included Ragatha in the group, idk why.
On the ground kicking and punching the floor like a child throwing a tantrum but in a good way