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Where has this video been? Apparently it came out in 2018?!
Regardless, I still cannot believe my eyes that Tyler Posey is standing shoulder to shoulder with some of the biggest social content creators on Earth to advocate for mental health awareness. Truly a legend.
Seize the Awkward!
I know I haven't posted in awhile but I would like to repost this image. It has such a powerful aura; The two hands reaching up to connect with Tyler as if to validate and appreciate his existence, the finger pointing to him as if he is a rare entity that only appears once the borders of time and space are thin and fragile. Lastly, the calm and unifying energies that surround Posey and his expression. It's gorgeous, and I would nominate it for display within the Sistine Chapel.
there’s honestly nothing worse than an apple that’s not crisp like don’t come near me with that grainy soft shit, that weak ass crunch i’d rather die
this is an anti-red delicious apple blog and if you don’t agree you can block me right now
I thought I was the only one who thought like this.
I’m glad to know I’m not alone.
I honestly don’t get people who eat the not-crispy apples. What is even the point?
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Tyler as Iniko the Sea Pirate in Youtube’s Sherwood
He seems so happy now and I love it
You cannot look me in the eyes and tell me that Steve “Even when I had nothing I had Bucky” Rogers, whose entire character centers around Bucky, who spent CA2 and CA3 and AE fighting for Bucky, would abandon him and go back to the 40s.
I love Peggy and I love their love, but he’s had time to get over her. He got closure in CA2 and went to her funeral in CA3. He sees she has a life in AE. He has a life in the modern era.
Also, Steve’s not selfish. He puts people (primarily Bucky) first to a fault. But going back in time and being with Peggy, this simultaneously abandoning Bucky and all his modern friends AND taking the life she would’ve led away from her is selfish and out of character for him.
I get that they had to get rid of him one way or another, because there’s no way Captain I-Can-Do-This-All-Day would stay away from whatever big bad happens next, and I’m so happy for my bird son Sam, and I’m glad Steve didn’t die, but they didn’t need to assassinate his character.
And it was just bad and lazy writing because it breaks the time travel rules they set in the beginning. So it makes no sense from a character or plot standpoint.
This. This. This.
👏🏼 STOP 👏🏼 BEING 👏🏼 DICKS 👏🏼 OVER 👏🏼 ENDGAME 👏🏼 NOT 👏🏼 LINING 👏🏼 UP 👏🏼 WITH 👏🏼 YOUR 👏🏼 THEORIES 👏🏼
It was a good movie you’re all just salty that your pairings didn’t become canon or a character stayed dead for once.
STOP 👏🏼 CLASSIFYING 👏🏼 GETTING 👏🏼 PISSED 👏🏼 AT 👏🏼 LGBT 👏🏼 CULTURE INCLUSION 👏🏼 ERASURE 👏🏼 AS 👏🏼 SNOBBY 👏🏼 ENTITLEMENT 👏🏼
Practically invalidating a portion of your fanbase is not “lining up with canon!” It is ERASURE and I will NOT be having it!
It was clear from the start that they weren’t going to make Stucky, or Stony a thing. It’s not erasure if there was no plans for it to exist in the first place.
Headcanons and theories are not something writers need to pay attention to when creating their stories.
They can’t go a single movie without Steve moaning about how he misses Peggy and how he feels out of place so no him taking a chance offered to him to go back is really not out of character.
The film did not invalidate you just because you don’t agree with the direction it went in and it’s actually very entitled to suggest otherwise.
You’re right, the film did not invalidate me because I don’t agree with the direction.
It invalidated me and fellow Stucky shippers by erasing (hence, erasure) any possibility of the ship occurring in any capacity. Sure, it probably wasn’t going to happen- The MCU is far too heteronormative to support making their biggest cash cow anything but straight- but that wasn’t the point.
It was those cracks; The tiny little holes that shone light onto the possibility that these two best friends had something deeper than what we were led (and eventually heartbroken) to perceive. By choosing to go down the line that they did, the MCU has destroyed those possibilities for those who enjoy its work. That is what is inexcusable and warrants becoming upset over.
And yeah, I’d argue that good cinema does rely on headcannons and theories. You need to respond and adapt to your audience, not cut them off and operate in independence.
(One more thing, it was most definitely out of character for Steve to leave everything he cared for behind ((including a friend he spent an entire movie protecting and fighting his allies to protect)) to go back and spend a lifetime with someone he already had an ending with. Plus, it means Steve knowingly let a plethora of horrible and preventable things occur, which we all know he would never do.)
A writer is telling a story, they do not take from theories, or change their stories to match trends of fans for several reasons, first being its their story, their intellectual property and they can do with it however they please, second being if they do borrow from theories online they risk the possibility of a lawsuit for stealing someone else’s ideas and it not worth the headache.
The MCU is very hetro because A) most of the story lines were pulling from are from the 60s a very unfriendly time for nonstraight people, and B) there is a global market for it and many large revune spots, such as China, are very homophobic so having a Gay story line that can’t be easily skipped over means that it can’t be shown there loosing the movie money. If the MCU was only big in the US maybe they’d run a gay story line but they’re not for a global audience.
Lastly the fact that you’re upset and arguing that the movie is garbage because it confirmed what you physically say you already knew was a slim to none probability was in fact not happening is the most idiotic thing I ever heard. They showed nothing but platonic love between Bucky and Steve while explicitly showing that Steve was hung up on Peggy, every single film. Showing best friends having close ties isn’t hinting at anything. You KNEW it wasn’t going to happen and instead of accepting the fact that a character found happiness with the love of his life you’re claiming it’s out of character because… took an opportunity to be happy? Like your argument makes no sense.
“Arguing that the movie is garbage.”
Never said that.
Let me repeat myself: I’m upset because of the elimination of possibility. Ships thrive off of the chance that something will happen between the subject characters, regardless of how high or low the chance. The MCU’s choice to have Steve go back and spend the rest of his life with a woman who, let’s be honest, he name dropped or looked at a picture of once per movie (as a reminder of his Heterosexuality™,) was a brutal stab to this part of the fandom. I’d even go so far as to say it was betrayal.
And yeah, I didn’t know if Stucky was going to happen. Anyone who says they do is lying. I saw a chance, just like my fellow shippers, and ran with it. The argument “It is acceptable to be mad at the MCU for erasing and alienating a large portion of their fandom.” Is not that complicated to understand. You just refuse to.
Finally, Steve’s ending wasn’t a clean and happy tie-off to his character. It was a way out; A cash-out method that left a lot of holes and a lot of disappointment and resentment. Stucky or not, it was not the ending he deserved.
It’s not erasing or alienating a large part of the fandom because they made a ship you don’t like canon. It wasn’t a cash-out or a disappointment for anyone but those how decided to read too far into a relationship that they made pretty damn clear was platonic. Hell they all but added in a cheesy ‘You’re like a brother to me” line
Nothing was out of character and there’s nothing wrong with a writer making any characters they won’t get together. It’s not LGBT erasure because they weren’t together.
The beginning of the movie has Steve trying to convince himself and his therapy group to settle, to make do with what they had. But Steve wasn’t happy, so when had the chance he went back, back to the time he belonged in, to the women he loved. It made sense because Cap didn’t settle, he never did when he had a spark of hope to continue. He didn’t have an ending with Peggy he had a missed opportunity, one he wanted back, has wanted since he was thawed out.
Him leaving Bucky made sense because he knew Bucky was tired, tired of change, tired of fighting, tired of hiding, all things we would have to do in the 40s. He’d have to change to get back to the time’s standards and morals, he’d have to fight because the war had just ended but they know what’s to come, he’d have to hide his knowledge of the future, his arm, his training.
No Bucky had found peace in the future, Steve wasn’t going to strip him of that. Even if it meant spitting up because what was best for Steve was not what was best for Bucky.
Him letting things go as we did also makes sense because Steve is smart. He knows he can’t fix everything, he can’t hope to and he has no idea how his actions might ripple and spread, but he knows that in the timeline he came from, the one where Captian America was thought gone for 70 years, everything ended okay for everyone. Bucky had his peace, Tony died doing what he believed in, Nat died in the way she wanted to, a way that in her mind paid for her sins, and everyone else he cared for, that he could have affected anyway, had happiness in the end. So Steve got to do something he hadn’t since he got thawed, he got to go home.
It was a good ending for him and tied up his storyline. The man out of time finally ended up back where he was supposed to be, in his own time with the woman he loves, the woman he had to leave but never wanted to.
First off, don’t call me a dick when so far all you’ve done is insult and furthered the erasure points I’ve been attempting to make this whole time.
I’ve already argued why it was out of character for Steve, so that’s just plain ignorance on your end. Stating “that isn’t true” to my points isn’t technically an argument, it’s just a perception of things. Really, you haven’t said much at all.
Steve was leading therapy sessions in Engame for those who lost loved ones to Thanos. It had nothing to do with Peggy. She died peacefully years ago, in a way that she and Steve respected and could process. Fact is, she was living her own life in the decades where Steve was in the ice. She moved on. Steve lost a lot of people, but he wasn’t as hurt as he obviously was when he watched Bucky turn to dust in front of his eyes. That’s why he was in therapy, not because of Peggy.
And no, Bucky was not “tired.” It was reiterated thousands upon thousands of times in the previous films that he was willing to fight and die with Captain America because they were so close. Stating otherwise is nothing more than being oblivious to the partnership between them that has been developing since The First Avenger.
Also, the “timeline where Captain America was in ice for 70 years” is the current timeline. He went back and spent those years with Peggy even though his contemporary form was still on Red Skull’s ship. Things still proceeded normally once he was unfrozen, except for the extra Captain America that was with Peggy.
The way you talk about how the films perfectly fit together because of this ending is leading me to believe that you have not actually seen any of the previous movies. Closely analyzed, Steve’s ending has vast implications that we are left unanswered. It’s inexcusable and is a disservice.
You clearly can’t read the original post because that was all I was referencing when I said dick. It’s literally the whole point of the post. I don’t care if you don’t like the movie, each to their own but as soon as you’re in people’s face screaming queerbaiting, homophobia or just saying the Russos ruined everything and anyone disagrees with them is sexist and homophobic, then you can fuck off. And before you go off on me again, I’m literally referencing several posts that lead to me making this post, not anything you said so stop taking everything personally for five seconds, please.
Oh and just because I don’t read into nonexistent subtext does not mean I need to rewatch the films. I saw them multiple time in fact and loved each to death, I even discussed politely, without all the condescending attitude you’ve been using, theories and headcanons with other fans.
You haven’t said anything much either if that’s what you want to go on with since I already told you that clinging onto a hope you knew, was futile, since you even said you knew Stucky wasn’t going to happen, wasn’t a reason to be pissy at everyone, but instead you just reiterated that and then made up a long list of reasons it was out of character so I gave my perspective on why those claims seemed weak at best.
And Bucky was tired, just because he would fight if he had to didn’t mean he wanted to, that he wasn’t tired. T’Challa even says it in Infinity War when he shows up to give Bucky his new arm. Bucky is tired, he was content being the WHite wolf in Wakanda but he was told to fight again so he did.
Also the Ancient One says, the only reason a timeline doesn’t split is because the events are left untouched. Cap CHOSE to live in this timeline if he had changed anything he would have caused an alternate timeline to sprout and he would have no control on where it went from there. So he chose to stay in this timeline because he wanted to live in the timeline that had happiness at the end for everyone, one where he could hand off the shield to Sam.
It was a good ending, it tied everything together without forcing everything because
I don’t know what else you want me to say because clearly, neither of us is going to convince the other to their side and you’ve been talking in circles for the last few reblogs.
You can't honestly expect anyone to heed your words when all you do is throw insults and "You're simply another SJW who's upset over queerbaiting, sexism, and homophobia!!!1!" at anything they try to discuss, especially when they are so very clearly not talking about any of those things and have stated that multiple times.
I've made my points, supported them, and defended them. You refuse to understand anyone else's point of view and simultaneously attack them while you retreat in your corner of "the boy who cried ad hominem" and generalizations. Not to mention how frequently you try to steer the argument in the direction of my supposed "screaming" about "queerbaiting" and "homophobia" because it is so much easier to defend yourself that way. You seem far more concerned with winning the argument or displaying some sense of intellectual superiority than with actually discussing the inherent flaws I've identified and supported.
You're right, this argument is tiresome, and nothing worthwhile will come out of it. I'm done fighting it.
doesn’t matter what canon says.
this artwork was created on one principle above all else: these two boys are sincerely in love, no matter the odds or the consequences. when canon and the writers and the whole world tell you they’re not, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world – “‘til the end of the line.”
👏🏼 STOP 👏🏼 BEING 👏🏼 DICKS 👏🏼 OVER 👏🏼 ENDGAME 👏🏼 NOT 👏🏼 LINING 👏🏼 UP 👏🏼 WITH 👏🏼 YOUR 👏🏼 THEORIES 👏🏼
It was a good movie you’re all just salty that your pairings didn’t become canon or a character stayed dead for once.
STOP 👏🏼 CLASSIFYING 👏🏼 GETTING 👏🏼 PISSED 👏🏼 AT 👏🏼 LGBT 👏🏼 CULTURE INCLUSION 👏🏼 ERASURE 👏🏼 AS 👏🏼 SNOBBY 👏🏼 ENTITLEMENT 👏🏼
Practically invalidating a portion of your fanbase is not “lining up with canon!” It is ERASURE and I will NOT be having it!
It was clear from the start that they weren’t going to make Stucky, or Stony a thing. It’s not erasure if there was no plans for it to exist in the first place.
Headcanons and theories are not something writers need to pay attention to when creating their stories.
They can’t go a single movie without Steve moaning about how he misses Peggy and how he feels out of place so no him taking a chance offered to him to go back is really not out of character.
The film did not invalidate you just because you don’t agree with the direction it went in and it’s actually very entitled to suggest otherwise.
You’re right, the film did not invalidate me because I don’t agree with the direction.
It invalidated me and fellow Stucky shippers by erasing (hence, erasure) any possibility of the ship occurring in any capacity. Sure, it probably wasn’t going to happen- The MCU is far too heteronormative to support making their biggest cash cow anything but straight- but that wasn’t the point.
It was those cracks; The tiny little holes that shone light onto the possibility that these two best friends had something deeper than what we were led (and eventually heartbroken) to perceive. By choosing to go down the line that they did, the MCU has destroyed those possibilities for those who enjoy its work. That is what is inexcusable and warrants becoming upset over.
And yeah, I’d argue that good cinema does rely on headcannons and theories. You need to respond and adapt to your audience, not cut them off and operate in independence.
(One more thing, it was most definitely out of character for Steve to leave everything he cared for behind ((including a friend he spent an entire movie protecting and fighting his allies to protect)) to go back and spend a lifetime with someone he already had an ending with. Plus, it means Steve knowingly let a plethora of horrible and preventable things occur, which we all know he would never do.)
A writer is telling a story, they do not take from theories, or change their stories to match trends of fans for several reasons, first being its their story, their intellectual property and they can do with it however they please, second being if they do borrow from theories online they risk the possibility of a lawsuit for stealing someone else’s ideas and it not worth the headache.
The MCU is very hetro because A) most of the story lines were pulling from are from the 60s a very unfriendly time for nonstraight people, and B) there is a global market for it and many large revune spots, such as China, are very homophobic so having a Gay story line that can’t be easily skipped over means that it can’t be shown there loosing the movie money. If the MCU was only big in the US maybe they’d run a gay story line but they’re not for a global audience.
Lastly the fact that you’re upset and arguing that the movie is garbage because it confirmed what you physically say you already knew was a slim to none probability was in fact not happening is the most idiotic thing I ever heard. They showed nothing but platonic love between Bucky and Steve while explicitly showing that Steve was hung up on Peggy, every single film. Showing best friends having close ties isn’t hinting at anything. You KNEW it wasn’t going to happen and instead of accepting the fact that a character found happiness with the love of his life you’re claiming it’s out of character because… took an opportunity to be happy? Like your argument makes no sense.
“Arguing that the movie is garbage.”
Never said that.
Let me repeat myself: I’m upset because of the elimination of possibility. Ships thrive off of the chance that something will happen between the subject characters, regardless of how high or low the chance. The MCU’s choice to have Steve go back and spend the rest of his life with a woman who, let’s be honest, he name dropped or looked at a picture of once per movie (as a reminder of his Heterosexuality™,) was a brutal stab to this part of the fandom. I’d even go so far as to say it was betrayal.
And yeah, I didn’t know if Stucky was going to happen. Anyone who says they do is lying. I saw a chance, just like my fellow shippers, and ran with it. The argument “It is acceptable to be mad at the MCU for erasing and alienating a large portion of their fandom.” Is not that complicated to understand. You just refuse to.
Finally, Steve’s ending wasn’t a clean and happy tie-off to his character. It was a way out; A cash-out method that left a lot of holes and a lot of disappointment and resentment. Stucky or not, it was not the ending he deserved.
It’s not erasing or alienating a large part of the fandom because they made a ship you don’t like canon. It wasn’t a cash-out or a disappointment for anyone but those how decided to read too far into a relationship that they made pretty damn clear was platonic. Hell they all but added in a cheesy ‘You’re like a brother to me” line
Nothing was out of character and there’s nothing wrong with a writer making any characters they won’t get together. It’s not LGBT erasure because they weren’t together.
The beginning of the movie has Steve trying to convince himself and his therapy group to settle, to make do with what they had. But Steve wasn’t happy, so when had the chance he went back, back to the time he belonged in, to the women he loved. It made sense because Cap didn’t settle, he never did when he had a spark of hope to continue. He didn’t have an ending with Peggy he had a missed opportunity, one he wanted back, has wanted since he was thawed out.
Him leaving Bucky made sense because he knew Bucky was tired, tired of change, tired of fighting, tired of hiding, all things we would have to do in the 40s. He’d have to change to get back to the time’s standards and morals, he’d have to fight because the war had just ended but they know what’s to come, he’d have to hide his knowledge of the future, his arm, his training.
No Bucky had found peace in the future, Steve wasn’t going to strip him of that. Even if it meant spitting up because what was best for Steve was not what was best for Bucky.
Him letting things go as we did also makes sense because Steve is smart. He knows he can’t fix everything, he can’t hope to and he has no idea how his actions might ripple and spread, but he knows that in the timeline he came from, the one where Captian America was thought gone for 70 years, everything ended okay for everyone. Bucky had his peace, Tony died doing what he believed in, Nat died in the way she wanted to, a way that in her mind paid for her sins, and everyone else he cared for, that he could have affected anyway, had happiness in the end. So Steve got to do something he hadn’t since he got thawed, he got to go home.
It was a good ending for him and tied up his storyline. The man out of time finally ended up back where he was supposed to be, in his own time with the woman he loves, the woman he had to leave but never wanted to.
First off, don't call me a dick when so far all you've done is insult and furthered the erasure points I've been attempting to make this whole time.
I've already argued why it was out of character for Steve, so that's just plain ignorance on your end. Stating "that isn't true" to my points isn't technically an argument, it's just a perception of things. Really, you haven't said much at all.
Steve was leading therapy sessions in Engame for those who lost loved ones to Thanos. It had nothing to do with Peggy. She died peacefully years ago, in a way that she and Steve respected and could process. Fact is, she was living her own life in the decades where Steve was in the ice. She moved on. Steve lost a lot of people, but he wasn't as hurt as he obviously was when he watched Bucky turn to dust in front of his eyes. That's why he was in therapy, not because of Peggy.
And no, Bucky was not "tired." It was reiterated thousands upon thousands of times in the previous films that he was willing to fight and die with Captain America because they were so close. Stating otherwise is nothing more than being oblivious to the partnership between them that has been developing since The First Avenger.
Also, the "timeline where Captain America was in ice for 70 years" is the current timeline. He went back and spent those years with Peggy even though his contemporary form was still on Red Skull's ship. Things still proceeded normally once he was unfrozen, except for the extra Captain America that was with Peggy.
The way you talk about how the films perfectly fit together because of this ending is leading me to believe that you have not actually seen any of the previous movies. Closely analyzed, Steve's ending has vast implications that we are left unanswered. It's inexcusable and is a disservice.
👏🏼 STOP 👏🏼 BEING 👏🏼 DICKS 👏🏼 OVER 👏🏼 ENDGAME 👏🏼 NOT 👏🏼 LINING 👏🏼 UP 👏🏼 WITH 👏🏼 YOUR 👏🏼 THEORIES 👏🏼
It was a good movie you’re all just salty that your pairings didn’t become canon or a character stayed dead for once.
STOP 👏🏼 CLASSIFYING 👏🏼 GETTING 👏🏼 PISSED 👏🏼 AT 👏🏼 LGBT 👏🏼 CULTURE INCLUSION 👏🏼 ERASURE 👏🏼 AS 👏🏼 SNOBBY 👏🏼 ENTITLEMENT 👏🏼
Practically invalidating a portion of your fanbase is not “lining up with canon!” It is ERASURE and I will NOT be having it!
It was clear from the start that they weren’t going to make Stucky, or Stony a thing. It’s not erasure if there was no plans for it to exist in the first place.
Headcanons and theories are not something writers need to pay attention to when creating their stories.
They can’t go a single movie without Steve moaning about how he misses Peggy and how he feels out of place so no him taking a chance offered to him to go back is really not out of character.
The film did not invalidate you just because you don’t agree with the direction it went in and it’s actually very entitled to suggest otherwise.
You’re right, the film did not invalidate me because I don’t agree with the direction.
It invalidated me and fellow Stucky shippers by erasing (hence, erasure) any possibility of the ship occurring in any capacity. Sure, it probably wasn’t going to happen- The MCU is far too heteronormative to support making their biggest cash cow anything but straight- but that wasn’t the point.
It was those cracks; The tiny little holes that shone light onto the possibility that these two best friends had something deeper than what we were led (and eventually heartbroken) to perceive. By choosing to go down the line that they did, the MCU has destroyed those possibilities for those who enjoy its work. That is what is inexcusable and warrants becoming upset over.
And yeah, I’d argue that good cinema does rely on headcannons and theories. You need to respond and adapt to your audience, not cut them off and operate in independence.
(One more thing, it was most definitely out of character for Steve to leave everything he cared for behind ((including a friend he spent an entire movie protecting and fighting his allies to protect)) to go back and spend a lifetime with someone he already had an ending with. Plus, it means Steve knowingly let a plethora of horrible and preventable things occur, which we all know he would never do.)
A writer is telling a story, they do not take from theories, or change their stories to match trends of fans for several reasons, first being its their story, their intellectual property and they can do with it however they please, second being if they do borrow from theories online they risk the possibility of a lawsuit for stealing someone else’s ideas and it not worth the headache.
The MCU is very hetro because A) most of the story lines were pulling from are from the 60s a very unfriendly time for nonstraight people, and B) there is a global market for it and many large revune spots, such as China, are very homophobic so having a Gay story line that can’t be easily skipped over means that it can’t be shown there loosing the movie money. If the MCU was only big in the US maybe they’d run a gay story line but they’re not for a global audience.
Lastly the fact that you’re upset and arguing that the movie is garbage because it confirmed what you physically say you already knew was a slim to none probability was in fact not happening is the most idiotic thing I ever heard. They showed nothing but platonic love between Bucky and Steve while explicitly showing that Steve was hung up on Peggy, every single film. Showing best friends having close ties isn’t hinting at anything. You KNEW it wasn’t going to happen and instead of accepting the fact that a character found happiness with the love of his life you’re claiming it’s out of character because… took an opportunity to be happy? Like your argument makes no sense.
"Arguing that the movie is garbage."
Never said that.
Let me repeat myself: I'm upset because of the elimination of possibility. Ships thrive off of the chance that something will happen between the subject characters, regardless of how high or low the chance. The MCU's choice to have Steve go back and spend the rest of his life with a woman who, let's be honest, he name dropped or looked at a picture of once per movie (as a reminder of his Heterosexuality™,) was a brutal stab to this part of the fandom. I'd even go so far as to say it was betrayal.
And yeah, I didn't know if Stucky was going to happen. Anyone who says they do is lying. I saw a chance, just like my fellow shippers, and ran with it. The argument "It is acceptable to be mad at the MCU for erasing and alienating a large portion of their fandom." Is not that complicated to understand. You just refuse to.
Finally, Steve's ending wasn't a clean and happy tie-off to his character. It was a way out; A cash-out method that left a lot of holes and a lot of disappointment and resentment. Stucky or not, it was not the ending he deserved.
I’m drawing a new Stucky Endgame fix-it comic! (Different scenario to my previous one!) Wanted to post the transcript that I did while half asleep:
Minutes following the events of Endgame:
Bucky stalks off to go cry in the forest alone coz he’s a heartbroken baby and we understand his pain.
Sam finally finds him and catches the assassin off guard: *softly* Hey, are you alright?
Bucky: Wipes face. ‘Shit.’
Sam: Hey man, it’s all good. Let it out.
Bucky: This is the first time I’ve cried in 80 years. I forgot how much it physically hurts.
Sam: *places hand on Bucky’s shoulder* I know it’s hard to take in. But he’s still our Steve.
Bucky: He’s not my Steve. Not anymore. He probably barely even remembers us.
Sam: If you feel this way about it why did you tell him you were OK with him doing this?
Bucky: Because I wanted him to be happy. And I knew if I told him I wanted him to stay then he would have. And now I’ve lost my chance with the only person I’ve ever loved.
There’s a pause, and Bucky starts laughing uncontrollably.
Bucky: The dumb punk never even realized I was in love with him.
Sam: Mmm I had my suspicions.
Someone else approaches from behind.
Steve: So did I.
They turn to look at Steve.
Steve: Sam, I said I didn’t want to tell you about her. That’s because it wasn’t a 'her’.’
Bucky, eyes wide, looks back in shock.
Steve: I went back, saved Bucky from the fall and from Hydra. I had my dance with Peggy. She and I were married for five years, and it was wonderful, until she fell in love with someone else. I guess there’s some futures you can never change. *he smirks* So I decided to take a stab in the dark. I had nothing to lose.
There’s a pause.
Steve: Turns out the ladies were always right: Bucky’s a good kisser.
Bucky, in disbelief: What?
Sam smirks
Steve: After decades together we finally got married in 2015. We still are. He’s been looking forward to meeting the both of you.
So what part of the 0.3 seconds in Endgame that we see Steve with Peggy makes you think they didn’t eventually end up with other people??
👏🏼 STOP 👏🏼 BEING 👏🏼 DICKS 👏🏼 OVER 👏🏼 ENDGAME 👏🏼 NOT 👏🏼 LINING 👏🏼 UP 👏🏼 WITH 👏🏼 YOUR 👏🏼 THEORIES 👏🏼
It was a good movie you’re all just salty that your pairings didn’t become canon or a character stayed dead for once.
STOP 👏🏼 CLASSIFYING 👏🏼 GETTING 👏🏼 PISSED 👏🏼 AT 👏🏼 LGBT 👏🏼 CULTURE INCLUSION 👏🏼 ERASURE 👏🏼 AS 👏🏼 SNOBBY 👏🏼 ENTITLEMENT 👏🏼
Practically invalidating a portion of your fanbase is not “lining up with canon!” It is ERASURE and I will NOT be having it!
It was clear from the start that they weren’t going to make Stucky, or Stony a thing. It’s not erasure if there was no plans for it to exist in the first place.
Headcanons and theories are not something writers need to pay attention to when creating their stories.
They can’t go a single movie without Steve moaning about how he misses Peggy and how he feels out of place so no him taking a chance offered to him to go back is really not out of character.
The film did not invalidate you just because you don’t agree with the direction it went in and it’s actually very entitled to suggest otherwise.
You're right, the film did not invalidate me because I don't agree with the direction.
It invalidated me and fellow Stucky shippers by erasing (hence, erasure) any possibility of the ship occurring in any capacity. Sure, it probably wasn't going to happen- The MCU is far too heteronormative to support making their biggest cash cow anything but straight- but that wasn't the point.
It was those cracks; The tiny little holes that shone light onto the possibility that these two best friends had something deeper than what we were led (and eventually heartbroken) to perceive. By choosing to go down the line that they did, the MCU has destroyed those possibilities for those who enjoy its work. That is what is inexcusable and warrants becoming upset over.
And yeah, I'd argue that good cinema does rely on headcannons and theories. You need to respond and adapt to your audience, not cut them off and operate in independence.
(One more thing, it was most definitely out of character for Steve to leave everything he cared for behind ((including a friend he spent an entire movie protecting and fighting his allies to protect)) to go back and spend a lifetime with someone he already had an ending with. Plus, it means Steve knowingly let a plethora of horrible and preventable things occur, which we all know he would never do.)
The things is, Steve got closure with Peggy. It’s not like that story line was left open? He got to see Peggy and talk to her and she even told him he needed to move on, because she’d had a remarkable life with no regrets and yet??? He Ignores that and disrupts her entire story? It was Bucky that Steve still had no closure with. In civil war Bucky gets frozen again and then in Infinity War they barely exchange two sentences before he’s dusted? I’m just so?? What??
You are absolutely right! The Peggy storyline had closure, several movies ago, she told Steve to move on, he went to her funeral, made out with her niece. You can’t get more closure than that.
Meanwhile him and Bucky are constantly being separated and pulled away from each other, we still haven’t seen an actual real reunion or conversation between those two because apparently all the important stuff between Steve and Bucky happens off screen.
But hey, they hugged twice and that’s enough to show the depth of their relationship, right?
I’m gonna be angry about this forever.
I'm sorry y'all I'm just so pissed about #Stucky being vaporized
👏🏼 STOP 👏🏼 BEING 👏🏼 DICKS 👏🏼 OVER 👏🏼 ENDGAME 👏🏼 NOT 👏🏼 LINING 👏🏼 UP 👏🏼 WITH 👏🏼 YOUR 👏🏼 THEORIES 👏🏼
It was a good movie you’re all just salty that your pairings didn’t become canon or a character stayed dead for once.
STOP 👏🏼 CLASSIFYING 👏🏼 GETTING 👏🏼 PISSED 👏🏼 AT 👏🏼 LGBT 👏🏼 CULTURE INCLUSION 👏🏼 ERASURE 👏🏼 AS 👏🏼 SNOBBY 👏🏼 ENTITLEMENT 👏🏼
Practically invalidating a portion of your fanbase is not "lining up with canon!" It is ERASURE and I will NOT be having it!
We Exist- we go waaaaaay back
And who could forget the greatest Macedonian couple of all time: Alexander the Great and Hephaestion. Once described as "One soul occupying two bodies," this legendary duo were as close and caring to each other as two can be. Hephaestion's funeral was actually the most expensive funeral in all of history ($1,975,945,500 by the most conservative estimates) and was rumored to send Alexander into a deep spiral of depression and grief.
I will stan them until the end of time.
(Credit for the artwork.)
stony fans are so #blessed with endgame
as a stucky fan i feel disrespected, ignored, betrayed, left behind,
In this essay I will
