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haiii just wanna say this is gonna be my personal blog for posting whatever i want.. since my main blog (@oceanwithouthermoon) is saiki k exclusive..
i'll post anything on here from my interests (probably mainly zelda, spider-man, project sekai, and my little pony) to personal stuff or venting.. (all will be tagged)
i made this comparison a while ago... but it's realer now than ever before...
i'm not necessarily disagreeing that the mcu, modern mcu especially, has a lack of sexuality but i find it interesting how people are comparing the "horniness" of tom holland's spider-man relationship to tobey macguire and andrew garflield, and people are saying mcu mj and peter simply aren't horny for each other... but it's not really true ??? like obviously there wasn't a lot of sexuality in the home trilogy, especially with them being minors, but we have scenes like...
peter changing and mj being reluctant to turn around, and then "subtly" trying to look back and sneak a little peak at his body 😭 it's not a sexy scene but it's appropriately awkward because they're 16 here
and a lot more sex jokes in the home trilogy than i recall there ever being in the other spider-man movies. ned saying he was watching porn, peter sneaking an adult film in his hotel room and happy teasing him, may and happy thinking mj and peter were having sex because they were caught with peter changing right in front of her (and i'll point out that this is when they're already dating and it contrasts the awkward ffh scene because he just straight up takes the spider-man suit off with no hesitation in front of her and she keeps holding him. i know they had other shit to worry about right then but i'd say it more or less implies that they were comfortable that way by that point, probably not having sex but doing something)
dare i say, it was actually a pretty appropriate way to show sexuality and sexual attraction in teenagers without actively sexualizing them and/or messing up the movies' ratings
also, they slut out tom holland in his movies way more than they did for the other actors 😭 i made my best friend watch the andrew garfield movies months ago and she saw his one shirtless scene and asked "when do i see him shirtless again?" and i said "you don't, tom holland is the only one they slut out like that" 😭 because he's shirtless in every movie, and now he's especcccccially (half-)naked in brand new day lol
i don't know how to describe it but i really love the line delivery of peter saying "that i... love you..." like! he really sounds like a 22 year old man, who's kind of embarrassed and dejected saying this and knows he's never actually going to read it to her.
i don't know, tom holland did a good job acting the character's age throughout the whole movie but this delivery really sold it for me for some reason. it's exactly how i would picture comic spiderman's voice and inflections too
spider-man brand new day spoilers
we all know that i'm an irondad fanatic but i just HAVEEEE to point out that people keep posting the scene of peter literally putting himself in AUNT MAY'S position while jean grey is in peter's position, and peter is also taking on the role that jean's sister sara was meant to play for jean, and then saying "peter is jean grey's tony" and it's kind of killing me, i can't lie.
i don't think it's wrong to draw parallels, in fact i think it was probably intentional that the conversations with peter and tony, peter and may, jean and sara, and peter and jean are framed in a similar way and sort of build off each other (pretend i put other screenshots in this bro i couldn't find a single brand new day pic of those specific scenes, i'll put them in when we get quality screenshots. edit: some terrible quality screenshots here, you're welcome)
but it just shows how much fandoms will zero in on male characters even when female characters are the most central and important. you literally ignore all the points the movie is making right in front of your eyes to bring a man into it. peter is teaching jean what MAY taught him, and jean is seeing HER SISTER in peter/may.
i think it's also worth noting that peter got a year to process tony's death during a decent time in his life where he had his aunt, his classmates, his best friend, and his girlfriend, while he had like half a day to process his grief over may with his friend and girlfriend before he was left alone for the next four years to repress his feelings. he's like... JUST NOW processing may's death and fully understanding the lessons she taught him. again, nothing wrong with pointing out the presence of his grief for tony too, but may is worth focusing on right now more than anything else 💔 this is about MAY
one of my favorite details in brand new day that i haven't seen anyone point out is that peter's mutation isn't just making him more spider, it's making him less human 😭 it sounds obvious but his inhibitor isn't just taking stuff away, it's also giving something back.
jean grey doesn't have any confirmed kills in the movie but i'm gonna be real with you all, even if she HAD killed people (civilians AND/OR metzger, i couldn't gaf) , i would still be rooting for her 🤷♀️ like you're watching a movie about a guy who, when he was closer to her age, tried to murder a sick, innocent man for something "he" or essentially someone else in his body did while he wasn't in his own mind. and you're seeing a young girl, who doesn't even have any of the support from friends that he did at the time, whose current arc is a reflection of his past one. and you're MAD? you're mad that she's violent and murderous just like he was? why are you still watching spider-man movies if that kind of grief-driven violence is too scandalous for you?
oh right, my bad... it's because you're only okay with it when it's a guy, girls can't do shit.
They’re besties and u can’t tell me otherwise
i actually completely forgot about this while watching the movie but during the promos, i thought spidey tracker was going to fuck over peter in brand new day by letting his villains know where he's at at all times ☠️☠️☠️ didn't happen but i wonder if it'll ever come up or if they're gonna let ned off the hook for this one lol
Say Cheese! 📷
y'know i talk about the flaws that make irondad/spiderson so great all the time but there's something i actually think we don't talk about enough... in their first meeting, tony tells poor ass broke ass peter and may that peter will be earning money through this grant (and money was the first thing peter asked about and tony's rich ass told him YES 😭)... and then that switches to an unpaid internship immediately and nobody brings this up again.
i wishhhhh i wish i wish that this scene where may tells peter that she's not a fan of tony stark was LONGER and that they'd had a longer conversation about this. obviously her priority would still be what she did say, how peter's been distracted since he met tony, but there are so many other issues she would've had with him. WHY didn't she bring up the fact that this billionaire told a broke teen from queens that he'd give him money and then DIDN'T give him money. this is one of those cases where i honestly can't tell if it's on purpose or if the writers on civil war AND homecoming were just not thinking about this 😭
Something about irondad fics where peter is kidnapped as a baby is they never write peter remembering his dad HAVING A BLUE GLOWY THING IN HIS CHEST. wouldn't that be kind of memorable??? Honestly I just want one of these fics where peter grows up and realizes ironman is his dad on his own. Any recommendations that are similar comment / reblog please!!
i'm ngl, i won't be out here policing harmless stuff people do in fandoms but i do honestly think that people overuse the term "sibling coded" wayyyy too freaking much 😭 like even excluding the people who only use it as an excuse to moralize their own opinions and treat ships they don't like as "problematic", it also just feels like this weird thing where everybody thinks that NOTHING exists in between or outside of romance and nuclear family.
does anyone get what i mean???? like nobody is just friends. they're either dating or siblings, nobody can be friends.
i'm sure there's something to be said there about this showing how little people value truly, purely platonic friendships but i don't have an extensive enough thought process here to say it. many of you guys just see fandom as a moral superiority contest and you want to throw the word siblings in peoples faces whenever they ship something you don't like, but many of you also seem to legitimately forget that people can simply be friends, ESPECIALLY boy/girl pairings.
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spider-man brand new day spoilers
we all know that i'm an irondad fanatic but i just HAVEEEE to point out that people keep posting the scene of peter literally putting himself in AUNT MAY'S position while jean grey is in peter's position, and peter is also taking on the role that jean's sister sara was meant to play for jean, and then saying "peter is jean grey's tony" and it's kind of killing me, i can't lie.
i don't think it's wrong to draw parallels, in fact i think it was probably intentional that the conversations with peter and tony, peter and may, jean and sara, and peter and jean are framed in a similar way and sort of build off each other (pretend i put other screenshots in this bro i couldn't find a single brand new day pic of those specific scenes, i'll put them in when we get quality screenshots. edit: some terrible quality screenshots here, you're welcome)
but it just shows how much fandoms will zero in on male characters even when female characters are the most central and important. you literally ignore all the points the movie is making right in front of your eyes to bring a man into it. peter is teaching jean what MAY taught him, and jean is seeing HER SISTER in peter/may.
i think it's also worth noting that peter got a year to process tony's death during a decent time in his life where he had his aunt, his classmates, his best friend, and his girlfriend, while he had like half a day to process his grief over may with his friend and girlfriend before he was left alone for the next four years to repress his feelings. he's like... JUST NOW processing may's death and fully understanding the lessons she taught him. again, nothing wrong with pointing out the presence of his grief for tony too, but may is worth focusing on right now more than anything else 💔 this is about MAY
I finally started watching NWH the other day, and here are some initial thoughts:
The fact that Tony’s legacy/technology was so tangled up in Peter’s global fuck up is heartbreaking and really beautiful to me. He really trusted that boy. And I think, to some extent, he sort of forgot Peter was still a kid who still needed his guidance. That’s the real tragedy of it all for me, is that Tony left and gave Peter the world in his stead, but Peter just kept looking for Tony, and that was his fatal mistake.
PETER AND STEPHEN’S RELATIONSHIP JESUS CHRIST. The fact that they’re slightly traumabonded, like they saved half the damn universe together, so there’s just this massive tie between them even though they barely know each other….. oh my god….. dude I literally lost it when Strange said “Hasn’t he been through enough?” to Wong. It may not be Irondad, but it’s close. It’s a slightly different breed.
the fact that DUM-E is living in Happy’s apartment, helping Peter with his homework… dude this feels so fanfic… i love this it’s so warm and cozy
I need a girlfriend like YESTERDAY dude Peter & MJ’s relationship is everythinggggg
i know it's super on the nose but when i first watched nwh, i practically screamed when strange said "after all we've been through together, i forget that you're just a kid" because i felt like their relationship was meant to be almost a meta reflection of tony and peter's
strange being so sweet to peter initially with that "hasn't he been through enough?" and "call me stephen," and then immediately going into "this is all your fault," "they're here because of you," "you're just a kid," after he couldn't handle the great power he was handed with no true warning or guidance, was exactly like tony handing peter a multimillion dollar suit paired with sweet comments about being like his dad and then taking it away the second he made a mistake and talking down to him.
and these small mistakes that ruined peter's life- trusting mysterio with the glasses, messing up strange's spell- are a testament to people's overly high expectations/trust for peter as much as they are a testament to his own immaturity/naivety. like it really shows how young he actually was and how much he was expected to act older.
neither strange nor tony had any malicious intentions at all, in fact they wanted to do the best they could for this boy, but they truly both... forgot that he's just a 16/17 year old boy. you can't hand a teenage boy that much power with no limitations and expect him to know exactly what to do with it!
NO BUT THIS IS WHAT IM SAYING.
As much as I will continuously glaze Irondad until the day I take my final breath, there’s no denying the fact that there were some unhealthy behavioral patterns at play, which I think are reflected HEAVILY in Strange’s initial interaction with Peter.
There’s a noticeable cycle in each of their relationships:
There’s this initial sympathy/kindness and paternal protectiveness shown by the mentor. Peter is drawn to the idea of finally being understood and wanting to make someone proud of him, someone he looks up to. The way the mentor views Peter is weirdly contradictory— a child in some contexts, but a vigilante and a fully functional member of the team in others. A weapon and an asset, but also something to be watched over and protected.
Peter is then trusted by the mentor with some massive responsibilities— advanced technology, dangerous situations, classified information, whatever it is. He tries his best and does what he can with the minimal guidance he’s given, but it isn’t good enough, and he messes up.
Peter is talked down to when he isn’t sure how to act in situations most people twice his age would crumble in. The mentor uses his youth and inexperience against him, belittling him, telling him he’s just a kid and he should have never trusted him and he doesn’t know what he’s messing with, instead of gently helping him grow into the responsibilities they threw at him.
This is, I think, what makes MCU Peter specifically so painfully relatable as a character, especially to teenagers— sometimes you grow up too fast and adults will tell you to act years more mature than you are. You have to take on all these responsibilities with minimal guidance on how to actually handle them, and then when you fuck up (and you will), they act like you should’ve known better, when there was no way you could have.
At least with Tony I’d like to believe that this waned as they grew together over the years we didn’t see (cough Infinity Gap mentioned cough), but I’m really not entirely sure because of EDITH.
exactly!!! strange saying 'this is why i never had kids' is also part of this to me. i havent watched multiverse of madness (yet. i literally just binged wandavision for the first time the other day so i'll get there😭) but im fairly sure strange does a bit better with america chavez than he did in his short time with peter, just like tony doing better with morgan (y'know, until he LEFT, which i still think is kind of a shit ooc character choice for him to kill himself when his daughter, who they make a point of him being a good dad to, is only five years old and leaving pepper to raise her alone but whatever. it was supposed to be a beautiful selfless character choice, and it mostly was, but the writers can suck my dick for the specifics of it actually, they didn't think it through that hard) than he did with peter and even said that she's his second chance and he can't mess it up.
side note, can we talk about how tony and peter never got an 'i love you' scene but strange and peter sort of did??? "everyone who knows and loves you- WE'D have no memory of you" like???? peter and tony got their hug, beautiful, but strange and peter got an "i love you"??? imagine being peter parker and losing all your father figures and just waiting, searching, scraping for familial validation from older men and you finally get an "i love you" from one but it's right before he forgets you forever.
anyway, i love how you said you'll still glaze irondad despite this when this in fact WHY i glaze irondad actually. i love love love the sweeter parts of their relationship too, but i think most irondad haters misunderstood the dynamic. they think everyone saw them and thought "awe perfect dad and his angel baby" (some did to be fair, but that's mostly young fic writers plus it's just kind of an easy little self-indulgent relationship to write, leave them be) when in fact the best parts of their relationship are the complicated parts. these people didn't realize that the fucked-up-ness of it all is very much supposed to be there and integrated with the good parts of their relationship- nobody made a mistake in the writer's room here, tony taking advantage of peter in civil war despite them simultaneously building up a canonical father-son relationship was not oversight nor was it bad writing, it's like that for a reason. tony telling peter outright that he wants to break the cycle of shitty fathers in his family by being good to peter and then immediately abandoning peter for making a dumb teenage mistake with the tech that tony gave him is literally the most interesting thing they could have done with this relationship. and it's the most interesting thing they could've given to 15 year old peter parker, a stubborn and rebellious but kindhearted kid who loves his aunt may to death but has no issue lying to her and sneaking out of her home every night and will tell a famous billionaire to his face "i was having a good day before you got here." they clash so beautifully and love each other so aggressively.
i also like that there are moments with both strange and tony where peter is sort of learning to say no and stand by his morals instead of just trying to get validated. he was always sassy and stubborn but civil war peter gave in to tony too easily with not enough reason, early homecoming peter sassed hard but backed down fast. late homecoming peter tells iron man himself that he doesn't want to be an avenger and doesn't want to move in with him and i think that lesson stuck with him which is why he's able to tell strange pretty early on in no way home to "have a heart" and then steals the box straight from him, trusting himself to make the choice. he struggled a bit with it with "fury" in far from home after tony's death because he was caught in the middle of mysterio manipulating him and "fury" making him feel like he failed tony, but i think once he was coping with tony's death better and learning shit for himself, it came back to him.
I finally started watching NWH the other day, and here are some initial thoughts:
The fact that Tony’s legacy/technology was so tangled up in Peter’s global fuck up is heartbreaking and really beautiful to me. He really trusted that boy. And I think, to some extent, he sort of forgot Peter was still a kid who still needed his guidance. That’s the real tragedy of it all for me, is that Tony left and gave Peter the world in his stead, but Peter just kept looking for Tony, and that was his fatal mistake.
PETER AND STEPHEN’S RELATIONSHIP JESUS CHRIST. The fact that they’re slightly traumabonded, like they saved half the damn universe together, so there’s just this massive tie between them even though they barely know each other….. oh my god….. dude I literally lost it when Strange said “Hasn’t he been through enough?” to Wong. It may not be Irondad, but it’s close. It’s a slightly different breed.
the fact that DUM-E is living in Happy’s apartment, helping Peter with his homework… dude this feels so fanfic… i love this it’s so warm and cozy
I need a girlfriend like YESTERDAY dude Peter & MJ’s relationship is everythinggggg
i know it's super on the nose but when i first watched nwh, i practically screamed when strange said "after all we've been through together, i forget that you're just a kid" because i felt like their relationship was meant to be almost a meta reflection of tony and peter's
strange being so sweet to peter initially with that "hasn't he been through enough?" and "call me stephen," and then immediately going into "this is all your fault," "they're here because of you," "you're just a kid," after he couldn't handle the great power he was handed with no true warning or guidance, was exactly like tony handing peter a multimillion dollar suit paired with sweet comments about being like his dad and then taking it away the second he made a mistake and talking down to him.
and these small mistakes that ruined peter's life- trusting mysterio with the glasses, messing up strange's spell- are a testament to people's overly high expectations/trust for peter as much as they are a testament to his own immaturity/naivety. like it really shows how young he actually was and how much he was expected to act older.
neither strange nor tony had any malicious intentions at all, in fact they wanted to do the best they could for this boy, but they truly both... forgot that he's just a 16/17 year old boy. you can't hand a teenage boy that much power with no limitations and expect him to know exactly what to do with it!
