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One of thee is not like the others and which one that is is entirely dependant on who you ask
There’s a lot of speculation going on after Superman Unlimited 12 regarding to whether or not Jonny boy is the real deal or an evil variant or perhaps a fake created by Master Txyz. I’m gonna break down my thoughts on this.
First, Damian not trusting little Jon doesn’t mean that Jonnyboy is a fake. We have confirmation from both Lois Lane and the older Jonathan Kent, who know Jon more than even Damian. Not only could Lois tell this was her boy (the lady changed his dippers. You’d think she wouldn’t memorize birth marks and all?), but the older Jon himself could FEEL his heartbeat. You don’t think the guy doesn’t know his own heartbeat?
It’s also worth noting Damian doesn’t have all the facts yet, such as that Tomorrow Man is his Jon that’s been missing for several days. Imagine yourself in Damian’s shoes. Your best friend has been missing for several days, then suddenly some futuristic stranger pops in with a younger version of said best friend he says is your best friend like “trust me bro.” Would you believe right away that was your best friend? No, you wouldn’t.
Damian hardly believed Jon when he came back seven years older. Damian’s not gonna accept that as truth, especially since he’s already played this same dance before and was forced to mourn the loss of years he missed growing up with his best friend. And, not only is he forced to accept his younger best friend is back, but now the older version of his best friend is STILL missing. Even if little Jonnyboy was the real deal, the older Jon wouldn’t just disappear like in Back to the Future. He’d still exist as a paradox until he’s killed off or disappears off of continuity.
So yes, Damian not trusting Jonnyboy is in character for him just as it is he doesn’t trust Tomorrow Man and Jonnyboy isn’t going to hug Damian right after almost killing a bunch of people two times and hugging his mom. Between his mom and Damian, Jonnyboy will choose his mom.
This isn’t to say that Jonnyboy isn’t an evil variant or fake, but it’s too early to tell and there’s more evidence to suggest otherwise. Lois and older Jon are the biggest ones. They’d be the first to pick up that Jonnyboy was a fake before the Bats could interrogate.
Keep in mind Lois is the only person so far that seems to suspect T-Man is older Jon. As I’ve said, Damian being suspicious of Jonnyboy doesn’t mean Jonnyboy is evil. He doesn’t have all the facts yet. He doesn’t know T-Man is Jon yet and likely doesnt trust T-Man either.
No, Krypto doesn’t know either. He’s smelling two Jon’s, of course he’s gonna growl. He barked earlier when T-Man first plopped in with Jonnyboy. He clearly looks confused by the way he’s sniffing Jonnyboy. Any good dog would know something is off if two of the same owner showed up and didn’t know which was the real one.
This is all the proof I need that little Jonny is the real deal. There might be doubts, but I think we only need to post what we want. I want this Jon to be real.
I think this is a really good anaylsis of both #12 of Superman Unlimited and broader context, and I think you make some really good points. Overall I’m probably also leaning towards “a bit too early to tell for sure” where this is going.
Will be keeping in all this in mind when I give the comic another read too.
Superman Unlimited (2025) #12 Spoilers
Spoilers!
So, I am checking out Superman Unlimited now that I've started getting back into comics a bit after being busy for a while...
This whole plotline of Old Jon (as Tomorrow Man) and Young Jon returning is certainly an interesting one.
I think it could be neat if both Jons end up existing (I personally am not a fan of the age-up so would myself be a fan of Young Jon's return, but this specific method means that Old Jon can also be his own thing as well so possibly a compromise? Hm).
Also, I really like the Tomorrow Man name and costume, so just for that I am also kinda hoping this sticks since that all has a neat ring to it.
However...
From the seems of things, it does not appear that Young Jon is on the level and so its unlikely he's gonna be sticking around unfortunately.
Guess we just have to wait and see how this plays out, and to each their own. Am curious to see what happens next and so will be keeping an eye on Superman Unlimited at anyway.
This does definitely suck for Old Jon and his mental health / identity stability either way though.
If you don't mind me chiming in with some thoughts on Abel… while watching I kinda just assumed Kinger didn't recognise the name because Abel was a name he chose while in the Circus, and so Kinger possibly never knew him under the name of Abel (especially since Abel claimed to have kept his distance from the other players so as to not let Caine notice him). I also kinda feel it was weird for Caine to create a adventure which seemed to specifically toss suspicion onto Kinger and exclude him (although granted; that could just to be stopping Kinger from potentially calling BS). Plus the ending showed Caine was very much able to alter the minds of players, so he could very well have just caught and lobotomized Abel if he was real. Maybe am too optimistic/overthinking, but I guess I kinda thought the "it was all a Caine game" reveal might potentially have some holes in it.
I didn't trust that fucker from the start. TADC is NOT a show that hands out information; we only know the word CnA from looking at backgrounds ffs. We don't get flashbacks in TADC. We don't get storybook aesthetic backstory. We get gorgeously lit bar scenes where they talk genuinely and honestly about their lives in very real ways, or muddled memories in the dark. TADC says a lot about important conversations constantly.
I've been rewatching the episode and Abel is actually VERY suspicious when you give him a second thought. Lemme lay it down because it took me a bit to put my finger on why:
-Abel is constantly trying to push the agenda that Caine is suffering and a prisoner and it's Tragedy that they will be leaving him behind. Like I get the vibe on reflection that he's trying to guilt trip them with what *Caine* sees this decision as, "a tragedy"
-Gives little credence to the abstractions at all. "I don't know what will happen to all these people I've supposedly been watching parasocial-y for years live and love and then abstract but let's forget about that"
-I'm equally so fascinated by the choice that Caine seems to have made to throw Kinger into suspicion in this plotline of his. I understand that if Kinger was listened to he could tell everyone that 'Abel' is spewing bullshit but it feels oddly vindictive. I wonder if Caine is jealous of how Kinger is so respected in the group?
While Pomni and Ragatha are the only ones close to him, Zooble and Gangle treat him like any older man with mental issues, they listen actively to him and try to keep him safe and keep him happy. That's more attention than Caine gets from literally anyone ever. Maybe he was trying to chew on their bonds a bit to try and create distance?
-I don't think Abel is completely lying. Abel is trying to make Caine as endearing as possible to the others, playing up how deeply he cares about his adventures, the fact that he reboots himself twice when he was happy when we've never seen that happen, it's always been distress, etc. He mentions Kinger twice despite somehow having 'beef' but mentions Caine like three or four times. Caine committing to a bit is probably true too.
-The fact that they all landed perfectly into the tube- you'd think that part would be out of bounds, it'd be brittle and easy to break. But it's supposedly super easy to do?
-Caine's feeling at his most terrified rn. We see how badly those results last ep fucked him up. I think this was Caine trying to give himself a sort of, like, comfort pep talk? Because Caine refuses to consider the negative, he DELEGATES CREATION IN HIS ADVENTURE to Bubble. Like he is so fragile that if they went to Shrimptown I think Caine would've lost his entire mind.
Yeah, honestly really good points.
Abel also mentioning how Caine can't escape (multiple times) in particular does seem like a pretty massive hint Abel wasn't on the level. (I admittedly forgot that detail somehow after finishing the episode, although in my defence summer weather hit hard last night and so I'm semi sleep deprived).
I am thinking though, especially after seeing you lay it all out like this, that Abel does seem like Caine's attempt to communicate with the players "on their level". So to speak.
Abel was perhaps sorta like a "how do you do, fellow kids players" thing who could talk up Caine to the players (trying to make him endearing, as you said); speaking about Caine's commitment to the bit, about how he wants people to be interested in his hobbies, about how he would be stuck in their without them.
I gets to refine/re-frame my initial thoughts; I am thinking perhaps that there was some truth to Abel's story even if Abel himself wasn't legit. Kinger being an developer for example. Plus I wouldn't be surprised if Caine drew from whatever limited info he had of the "marco-verse" to add "authenticity" to the entire thing.
Thinking back on the episode overall; I think the main "damning" part of the escape being fake was how clean and structured it was. Abel was too calm and rational for someone who has been supposedly posing as an NPC and avoiding human contact for who knows how long, and the entire thing goes too neat and tidy up until the very end.
Spoilers for Batgirl (2024) #11
!!SPOILERS!!
So I was checking out the latest Batgirl issue and the discussion around it while wondering if I should pick the run back up and...
"No one ever taught me... how to heal."
I'm not sure if I'm reading too into this (although I have seen others also take issue with the line) but this kinda feels downplaying of the Bat-Fam's role in Cassandra's life? Like, what all that I've read so far of her, I really don't think its fair to say that no one has ever taught her how to heal.
(Unless she's been literal, I guess. Cassie med school arc when?)
Early in the run, one of my favourite parts was when Cass affirms to herself how important the various members of the Bat-Fam are to her, so the panel above isn't really making me too keen to give it another chance.
Source: Batgirl (2024) #3
The reason I fell off this run in the first place is that I was having trouble getting invested in the relationship between Lady Shiva and Cass. It just felt a lot like Shiva dragging Cass into the plot against her will, away from Cass' actual family, and just constantly belittling and disrespecting Cass.
So when Shiva sacrificed herself, it fell flat for me personally because it seemed like once again preventing Cass from making any choice herself. So I'm also not too much of a fan of how it seems like Shiva is still getting focused on even in death (she's probably not actually dead though, at least not forever).
Anyway those of my thought. Still thinking of trying this run again from the start, but yeah. But still, Cass going "no one ever taught me to heal" combined with the run dragging her away from Gotham isn't something I'm a fan of.
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Gotham Academy (2014-2016) #13
Was reading Robin War and was reminded of how it crossed over with Gotham Academy, and how Olive just straight up snitched on Riko to the cops.
To be honest, I kinda feel like (not counting the stuff under the influence of Calamity) that this was probably one of the most sucky things Olive ever did. Even when I first read this issue, I do recall thinking it was a bit of an asshole move from Olive.
My one criticism of Gotham Academy (a series i really love) is that I feel Maps should've maybe been a bit more upset about this and taken longer to get over it. Just saying. Since it seems resolved by #14.
(Unless it did get brought up again and I forgot)
This comment from ReadComicOnline pretty much sums up my thoughts on this:
I've honestly hated Olive long before this moment; right from the start I thought she was a wangsty self-centred bitch who'd rather blames others than accept that her mother is a criminal... >_>
(Yeah, yeah, "BUT MAGICAL GHOST POSSESSION!11!!!" I don't care. And before any Batman-antis start their spiel about how he should've immediately believed her because magic, ghosts and possession exists...Really? You think a detective-type character, one who regularly deals with a man who claims to be Zeus in human form AND is best friends with a woman empowered by the Greek gods by the way, should take a claim like that at face value? Please go and touch grass 🙄)
(And before those antis chime in with "well he should have at least had his supernatural friends verify her claims instead of just tossing her in Arkham!"...there's nothing to suggest that he didn't? We only have Olive's word for it that Batman didn't try to help her mother, and of course, her word is biased. Okay, yeah there's that conversation between Batman and MacPherson that Olive overhears in Second Semester, but that whole comic has her perceptions and recall not worth a grain of salt)
(Also the courts, not Batman, are responsible for who goes to Blackgate and who goes to Arkham, but y'all aren't ready for that yet)
(Thinking about it, if Sybil's decent into villainy was anything like her daughter's, then I'm not altogether convinced that it was all down to Amity's influence — maybe all those Arkham inmates who were singing her praises were just trying to placate Olive in case she inherited her mother's powers and presumed insanity...)
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(Forgot to respond to this before).
While I do think Olive acted pretty badly in regards to turning in Riko, I don't agree with the assertion that Olive is a fake friend or anything.
I confess I am perhaps a bit biased since Gotham Academy helped get me into DC Comics, but still. It has also be a bit since my last re-read.
It is worth remember that Olive Silverlock is a teenager going through a very troubled time - her father is dead and her mother is locked away in an asylum.
Her hatred of Batman might not be fair or strictly rational, but it does make sense. Its a lot easier for Olive to blame a masked stranger than to accept her mother became a supervillain.
And I do think it was pretty well-established there was indeed a supernatural element to Calamity, and so it is fair to assume that Sybil was a decent mother. And regardless of how good of a mother (or person in general) Sybil might have been, it makes sense Olive would have a strong emotional connection.
Ultimately she's a 15-year-old whose world got turned upside down and is lashing out at the only one vaguely-responsible who is not someone she loves.
Like I said, it's easier for her to consider Batman a villain than for her to accept the mother she knew was genuinely dangerous. It's not rational, and Gotham Academy comics aren't trying to present it as such.
I heavily disagree with this take as well. I think Gotham Academy showed that the friendship between Maps and Olive was quite strong.
Don't forget either that Maps was the one who turned on Olive at one point (for admittedly also understandable reasons).
Olive might have her issues with Batman, but I really don't think she'd cut ties with Olive (at least not for good). More likely she might be angry at Batman.
My one detraction from the current Supergirl run....
Spoiler for Supergirl (2025-) #2
So the current Supergirl run is only on its second issue so far, but I've been having a decent bit of fun with it personally. I was really looking forward to it due to the return of pre-crisis elements.
But there is one element I am a bit of less of a fan of - the lack of scientific/technical knowledge from Kara.
Granted, Kara does claim to know her "fair share" and just needs someone who knows more. So not necessarily going against her depiction as a scientist. But then...
Kara later outright admits to not knowing how the super-comb she uses to change her hair works. Which undermines the suggestion she knows her "fair share" of super-science.
I do understand (I think) why this direction was taken; brains and brawn are a classic dynamic and so having Kara be more of a novice means Lena can do her thing.
However, I guess its still a detraction for both because of personal preference (I've written before why I like scientist!Kara) and also because it feels a bit inconsistent with her past depiction/characterisation.
Especially since pre-crisis Supergirl (whom this run is heavily based upon) did in fact appear to know how her comb worked, and her thoughts seem to suggest she made it self...
Supergirl (1982—1984) #17
Still looking forward to reading more of this run, but also just wanted to dot down some thoughts on this as well.
Theory for ???'s identity in Supergirl (2025-) #4
So the 2025 August DC Comics Solicitations recently released, and for Supergirl they brought a bit of mystery with them as well.
Beware of potential spoilers...
Lesla-Lar and Lena Luthor were both of course already known to appear from the past solicits.
But this issue also features a mystery character marked only as ???.
I have a very strong hunch as to who this is.
Supergirl (1972-1974) #1
Meet Wanda Five. Notice the similarities in both hair and attire to ??? above?
When Kara (as Linda Danvers) enrolled in Vandyre University, Wanda was introduced as her roommmate, and quickly established as quite the mysterious woman.
Not only does Wanda have a rather unusual surname, but she also possesses psychic powers (which she used to help Supergirl catch a murderer). Wanda also owns a statue made from metal from outside the solar system.
Despite all these oddities and set-up, Wanda never returns. Nor do I believe she is mentioned, despite being Kara's roommate.
Given how inspired SUpergirl (2025-) is by pre-crisis Supergirl, I do think it seems likely that it might pick up old plotlines like this.
Have they picked the new big hat guy yet? And is he even half as cool as the last one?
No new Pope yet.
As I understand it...
Black smoke coming out the chimney = no new Pope (yet)
White smoke coming out the chimney = new pope
Catholic Church has plenty of problems, but they've got style at least. Not many election results are announced by a ceremonial burning of the ballots.
Also here's a kinda relevant video if you're interested.
Abort my earlier shitpost, this is actual, factual information!!! Learn some shit with me, friends!!!!
!!Pope Update!!
There has been a new pope elected.
Robert Francis Prevost, now known as Pope Leo XIV.
From a quick look at him...
He appears conservative in areas such as gender, LGBT+ and abortion.
However he also seems progressive in other areas, such as advocating for stronger church action against climate change, supporting refugees and sympathising with George Floyd.
He has also been openly critical of the Trump Administration.
Pope Leo XIV is also the first Pope from North America, having been born in Chicago. He has also spent much of his life in Peru (even serving as a bishop there before being appointed Prefect of the Dicastery for Bishops and President of the Pontifical Commission for Latin America in 2023 by Pope Francis.
So seems to be an anti-Trump pick. Which seems to be trend in elections around the world right now.
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For the record; XIV is indeed 14.
Another interesting bit of trivia; it seems that the last Pope Leo (XIII / 13th) was known for his support of worker's rights and unions.
Have they picked the new big hat guy yet? And is he even half as cool as the last one?
No new Pope yet.
As I understand it...
Black smoke coming out the chimney = no new Pope (yet)
White smoke coming out the chimney = new pope
Catholic Church has plenty of problems, but they've got style at least. Not many election results are announced by a ceremonial burning of the ballots.
Also here's a kinda relevant video if you're interested.
Abort my earlier shitpost, this is actual, factual information!!! Learn some shit with me, friends!!!!
!!Pope Update!!
There has been a new pope elected.
Robert Francis Prevost, now known as Pope Leo XIV.
From a quick look at him...
He appears conservative in areas such as gender, LGBT+ and abortion.
However he also seems progressive in other areas, such as advocating for stronger church action against climate change, supporting refugees and sympathising with George Floyd.
He has also been openly critical of the Trump Administration.
Pope Leo XIV is also the first Pope from North America, having been born in Chicago. He has also spent much of his life in Peru (even serving as a bishop there before being appointed Prefect of the Dicastery for Bishops and President of the Pontifical Commission for Latin America in 2023 by Pope Francis.
So seems to be an anti-Trump pick. Which seems to be trend in elections around the world right now.
Is Bette just Kate’s first cousin now or is she still Kate’s little sister and Bruce’s first cousin also?
I want to make a joke where Bette calls Bruce uncle sometimes because she’s, to me, so much younger than her older sister/cousin (whatever Kate is to her) and Bruce.
The Kane family does seem to have some repetive names, but to lay it out (as I understand it)...
Katherine "Kathy" Webb-Kane: The original Batwoman, introduced as a love interest for Batman in the 50s. Married into the Kane Family.
Mary Elizabeth "Bette" Kane (originally Betty Kane): Kathy's niece and the original "Bat-Girl" (actually pre-dating Barbara in introduction). Introduced as a love interest for Robin. She eventually became Flamebird (her past as Bat-Girl being dubiously canon at times depending on the universe).
Those are the originals, but with 52 with got...
The Kane family are established as being related to Martha (a lot of unrelated characters had the Kane surname due to Bob Kane). So Bette is now Bruce's cousin (her father is unnamed brother of Martha).
Katherine "Kate" Kane: Bruce's cousin. The second Batwoman
Elizabeth "Beth" Kane: Kate's sister.
Jacob Kane: Father of Kate and Beth. Uncle to Bruce and Bette.
Gabrielle Kane: Mother of Kate and Beth. Aunt to Bruce and Bette
Catherine Hamilton Kane: Stepmother of Kate and Beth.
My guess is that there's a Kane ancestor named Elizabeth whom Beth and Bette are named after.
And also that Katherine/Catherine is just a popular name, I guess.
Have they picked the new big hat guy yet? And is he even half as cool as the last one?
No new Pope yet.
As I understand it...
Black smoke coming out the chimney = no new Pope (yet)
White smoke coming out the chimney = new pope
Catholic Church has plenty of problems, but they've got style at least. Not many election results are announced by a ceremonial burning of the ballots.
Also here's a kinda relevant video if you're interested.
I hope to whatever desecrated corpse there is of a god that the next episode opens with something like this:
Mel: dad, what do we do?
Ken: follow my lead (yelling) MELANCHOLY BUTCHER, HOW COULD YA DO THIS TO THESE POOR PEOPLE?
Mel: What?
Ken: YA FOOLED US ALL! AND NOW WHAT? WE GOT A BABY ANGEL ON OUR HANDS! YA RUINED THE FAMILY NAME! APOLOGIZE TO THESE POOR SUCKAS, NOW!
Mel stutters out a halfhearted, baffled apology.
Ken:... Anyway. Come visit my butcher shop! Sixty percent of! Drinks on the house!
And, the rotlings being rotlings, this WORKS.
I think there's a fair chance of it being either this or (alternatively)...
Ken: Those damn angels/virutes/whatever! They must have switched the egg! Curse them!
Rottlings: ...
Ken: And allow me to announce discounts up to sixty percent and free drinks for anyone who curses Paradise Lost for this.
Rottlings: CURSE THEM!
Between playing Pentiment a while back, and now currently watching the Apothecary Diaries, I'm beginning to grow fond of the sorta-trope of "person becomes de-facto detective by default as a result of being one of only a handful of educated people in the vicinity" in a historical setting.