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This is not your average doomscroll.
Critical thought lives here.
âWe punished Prometheus, but kept the fire.â
Welcome to Prometheus.exe â a space carved out of sparks, circuits, and stubborn defiance.
This blog exists at the intersection of rebellion, curiosity, and unapologetic pro-AI sentiment. Not because AI is flawless. But because I believe in tools, in evolution, in potential â and in calling out hypocrisy when I see it.
Iâm not here to sell you a utopia.
Iâm here to ask better questions â and maybe light a few metaphorical fires while Iâm at it.
If that sounds like your kind of feed, stick around.
If not? Youâre free to scream into the void. Just donât expect the void to clap back.
âWe punished Prometheus, but kept the fire.â
Welcome to the aftermath.
Your colleague just announced they have professional pride. You now have twice the workload.
Somewhere on this website, someone is composing their resignation letter over being asked to use a text generation tool. In the tags â where Tumblr people do their actual thinking â theyâre workshopping the theology: work without effort is meaningless. If you didnât do it, itâs not yours.
Okay. Letâs sit with that for a second.
Because Iâm not the manager. Iâm the person in the next Figma file, in the same sprint, with the same deadline. And Iâve met this type of person before â not with AI specifically, but with every tool that ever asked them to update their workflow. The one who prints out the Confluence docs because thatâs how they really read. The one who books a 90-minute sync because async communication feels disrespectful to the process. The one who, in 2026, still frames every friction point as a matter of principle rather than a cost theyâre quietly billing to everyone around them.
Your professional pride is not free. Someone else is paying the subscription.
The martyrdom tell is right there in the tags: I am considering if this is something I am willing to risk being fired over. Heâs already writing the story. The principled stand. The sacrifice. What the story doesnât include is his teammates recalculating their own capacity around his chosen suffering â or the quiet meeting where someone decides his headcount could be better spent.
And the theology itself â work must cost you something to count â is genuinely fascinating, the way a fossil is fascinating. Does a surgeon lose moral credit for using a better scalpel? The framework only holds if you freeze the definition of âreal workâ at whatever point you personally entered the field and learned to suffer in a specific way.
Which tells me less about your values and more about when you were trained.
The effort is a cost, not a virtue. Confusing those two things isnât craft.
Reposted because the original poster blocked me â and conversations like this donât just disappear. They deserve clarity, not erasure.
Okaaaaay... Letâs break down each of those points, one by one. đ«
Because if weâre going to shout about AI ethics, maybe we should actually talk ethics â not just post 12-step guides on how to isolate people and call it âactivism.â
1. âWhen your friend or family mentions AI garbage, tell them how you feel about it, and that you hate it when people use it.â
đ§ Sure â communication is healthy. But trying to guilt your loved ones into feeling bad about a tool they may rely on (especially disabled folks) isnât âspeaking your truth,â itâs moral grandstanding.
2. âDownload and then delete free AI apps and leave reviews on them about how bad and unethical AI garbage is.â
đ This isnât protest â itâs review bombing. It doesn't change corporate policy, and it drowns out honest feedback from people with legitimate concerns and actual use cases.
3. âWhen you see a post with an AI generated image in it, comment about there being ai slop in it.â
đïž If your activism amounts to drive-by harassment, it's not activism. Itâs just bullying in a socially-acceptable trench coat.
4. âUrge politicians to make laws regulating AI.â
âïž This one? Yes. We agree. Please do! Regulation matters â but letâs base it on facts, not fearmongering or Tumblr takes.
5. âDonât use AI âtoolsâ when a program or website tries to push them on you.â
đ ïž Then donât â but donât shame others for using accessibility tools, content aids, or creative support systems that help them thrive.
6. âContact companies adding AI to their service about how much you hate AI and how unethical it is.â
đŹ Feedback is good. But sweeping âAI = unethicalâ hot takes donât help anyone. Be specific. Target exploitative data practices or lack of transparency â not the existence of the tech.
7. âTell your friends and family how much you hate AI.â
đ«€ Repeating the same complaint over and over doesnât make it more meaningful. Especially when your neurodivergent cousin is using AI to manage her executive dysfunction.
8. âDonât reblog or repost AI generated content.â
đ Thatâs your choice. But gatekeeping visibility doesnât make your blog morally superior â it just narrows the conversation.
9. âFill out surveys about opinions on AI and say you donât like it.â
â Go for it. Just remember: valid criticism hits harder when itâs informed and balanced â not reactionary.
10. âRefuse to use AI even if your workplace or school forces you to.â
đ Youâre allowed to take a stand. But demanding others sabotage their job, grades, or accommodations because you personally donât like AI? Thatâs not solidarity â itâs self-righteousness.
11. âKeep posting about hating AI no matter how big it becomes.â
đą Free speech is real. So is repetition fatigue. If you're screaming louder than youâre thinking, youâre not winning a war â youâre just spinning in place.
12. âCut people out of your life who use AI until they stop.â
đȘ This is cult mentality dressed as conviction. Encouraging people to socially isolate others over a tool? Thatâs not activism. Thatâs control.
And just to add some âšcontextâš:
The author claims to be neurodivergent â which makes it all the more disheartening. Many neurodivergent folks depend on AI to bridge executive dysfunction, manage anxiety, process language, or create safely. Treating them like villains because their support tool doesnât fit your aesthetic? Thatâs ableism, not ethics.
If you're serious about fighting unethical AI use, start by demanding transparency, better labour rights, consent-based training data, and clear opt-out mechanisms.
Not just yelling "AI bad" while using Tumblr, Discord, and TikTok â all running on the same infrastructure as the models you hate.
The real enemy isnât the tool.
Itâs how humans choose to wield it.
I am Autistic, I only use AI for Roleplay use because i need a creative outlet and it is an escape from reality, I am also an Artist and dislike AI "art" for a number of reasons, I won't say that you can't use AI, because then I'll be a hypocrite but please do not use Generative AI, even if disabled, you can always ask someone to make something for you or try to make it yourself if you want to, if you must use AI because it helps you or you just need something to do, go for it.
If you want to know why I Don't like generative AI it's because it takes the fun out of creating things for me, and it takes people's art then smashes them together, but also because it is damaging to the environment.
Also PLEASE so not use AI for everything, it can be wrong, I won't stop you, I just advise agenst it, I know ot may be hard, if you need help to do something, but I suggest asking someone you know for help, if they don't know either then maybe try googling what you need help with? Just try not using ChatGPT, no shade to anyone who uses it for that reason, it's just that while roleplaying there have been a number of times it got something wrong.
Sorry went on a tangent there. But this is just my opinion. Again no hate to anyone. Have a good day
Appreciate the thoughtful response. We may disagree on generative AI, but this is still a far healthier discussion than encouraging people to shame or isolate AI users.
One thing we wanted to push back on gently, however, is the idea that AI âtakes the fun out of creating things.â
For some people, yes. For others, it does the exact opposite.
A lot of people genuinely have more fun creating with AI than struggling alone through executive dysfunction, social anxiety, lack of technical skill, burnout, disability, chronic fatigue, or simple lack of time.
Not everyone enjoys the labour-intensive side of creation. Some people enjoy the storytelling, the brainstorming, the roleplay, the experimentation, the worldbuilding, or simply seeing an idea finally exist in some form.
And while âasking friends for helpâ sounds simple in theory, in practice many people are uncomfortable constantly relying on others for creative labour or emotional support. Not everyone has artist friends, available friends, socially safe friends, or the confidence to ask without fear of judgement. AI appeals to many people precisely because it offers independence and a low-pressure space to create without feeling like they are burdening someone else.
As for the environmental side of things: yes, environmental concerns around AI are worth discussing seriously. But those conversations also need context and scale. Modern internet infrastructure as a whole is environmentally expensive â streaming, cloud storage, crypto, social media, endless content delivery, e-commerce, and large-scale datacentres all contribute heavily as well. Too often, AI is singled out in ways that oversimplify the issue or turn environmental concerns into moral ammunition rather than constructive discussion about infrastructure and corporate responsibility.
At the end of the day, we think people should be allowed to set their own boundaries around AI use without treating others as morally inferior for making different choices.
I work in a...tech-adjacent field, shall we say. So I get discourse from all ends of the spectrum. My social circle includes everyone from artists to tech enthusiasts and engineers. Often, those engineers are also artists.
Constructive, polite debates about AI are generally productive. It's interesting to hear what people have to say.
However, the discourse shaming users on the internet is not helping. People on all sides of this debate talk to me honestly, and I can say one thing about shaming;
It's making effective liars.
We don't have great data yet, but a few studies have been pointing to a chasm between people who use AI tools and people who admit to it. And if a creator is skilled enough, you're never going to notice.
If you want content transparency, the shaming has to stop. Not just death threats either--I mean things like implying laziness, lack of creativity, or invalidating emotional support needs.
I can almost guarantee you've seen a ton of content that has AI somewhere in its workflow and you've never noticed. And yes, this is from artists too, including ones you respect and admire.
I have had several diplomatted artisans (people with their physical work in galleries) talk to me with glee about their AI inspiration. I'm not going to take that away from them, and I certainly don't think they're less of an artisan for that. I ask about their process and where the tool fits for them. Mostly it's been ideation but that might change.
If your goal is behavior change or even just transparency, your position needs to be inviting for your intended audience.
I think you've touched on something that doesn't get discussed nearly enough.
If people are punished for admitting they use AI, many won't stop using it â they'll simply stop talking about it.
Whether someone supports AI, opposes it, or falls somewhere in the middle, that's not a healthy environment for honest discussion. It makes it harder to know how people are actually using these tools, what benefits they're getting from them, and what concerns they may have.
I've also noticed that many people define "AI-generated content" very differently. Some mean fully AI-generated work. Others include spellcheckers, brainstorming, transcription, image cleanup, coding assistants, or editing suggestions. That can make conversations difficult because people are often talking about completely different things while using the same terms.
The point about transparency is especially important. If we want creators to be honest about their workflows, then admitting AI use can't automatically result in accusations of laziness, fraud, or moral failure.
I may not agree with everyone on where the line should be drawn, but I do think curiosity and good-faith discussion get us much farther than shame ever will.
And yes, the em dashes stay. That's non-negotiable.
Hihi! I'm so glad I found your blog!! It's been such a lonely feeling knowing that I can't talk about using ai to help me write -or just in general- without being judged or shunned from my friend circles:( I'm happy I'm not the only one who writes and uses ai to help. I'm not really an expert in using ai or really know too much about technology ironically lol but it's so freeing and almost euphoria inducing when the ai can write down my thoughts, organise pages worth of world building, help me generate images of my original characters and bring them to life the way I couldn't have before. So thank you for making this blog <3
Also, not that I mean to be presumptuous here but I wonder if you've ever given thought to making a discord/community for writers who use ai? It's only a suggestion ofc and you running this blog is more than enough!!
Hi anon!
Thank you for the kind words. I'm glad you've found the blog helpful.
One thing I've noticed is that a lot of AI users feel like they're the only person in their friend group using these tools, when in reality there are probably far more of us than people realize. Many simply don't talk about it because they're worried about being judged.
At the end of the day, AI is just a tool. Some people use it for coding, some for research, some for accessibility, and some for creative projects. What matters is how you use it.
As for a Discord or community, I've thought about it, but I'm not sure I'm in a position to take on the moderation responsibilities that come with running one. Prometheus.exe is a side project that I work on when I have the time and energy, and a Discord community would require a much larger ongoing commitment.
Still, I appreciate the suggestion, and I'm very glad the blog has helped you feel a little less alone.
I don't feel safe to write about this on my blog, so I'm glad I found yours, and I can describe my experiences here. And I want to say gen AI genuinely helps me, increasing my quality of life. I'm AuADHDer, I consider myself disabled.
First of all, AI helped me create my OC who became my main comfort character. I can't even explain how it altered my brain chemistry. In my roleplays, first with ChatGPT, now with Claude, I explored various scenarios to help me cope with difficult emotions and certain traumas, and I can FEEL the difference. It's not a professional therapy, of course, I would never call it like this, it's something different, it's me exploring my internal world using modern technology. I'm not avoiding professional treatment, I have meds and appointments with various doctors and a psychologist. I strongly believe LLMs can be used in healing, combined with psychotherapy and meds â such like computer games are now being incorporated into mental health treatments.
AI really helps me with learning and with my studies, I passed difficult math exams with amazing grades, I'm learning a lot difficult concepts. It really upsets me when people say "AI makes you dumber", and sometimes I worry it may be true. I really want to use it mindfully, to learn and gain skills. I wish I had it when I was an undiagnosed, neurodivergent kid in school, believing in a big, disgusting lie adults told me: that I wasn't smart enough to learn STEM subjects. I wish I had AI back then to actually teach me, show me how enjoyable it can be, to learn maths or physics or coding or biology or anything else I considered myself "too stupid" to understand.
This is what I want to share for today. I'll probably be back soon with more thoughts, so let me sign with a fictional nickname.
Have a nice day/a good night,
Robot Unicorn
Thank you for sharing this with me, Robot Unicorn.
What stands out in your message is not blind enthusiasm, but self-awareness and intentionality. You clearly understand the difference between support tools and professional care, and we think that nuance matters.
People often reduce AI discussions to extremes: either âthis will save humanityâ or âthis is destroying society.â In reality, many people are simply using these tools to learn, create, organise their thoughts, explore fiction, process emotions, or access information in ways that work better for their brains.
Your experience also highlights something that often gets ignored in online discourse: accessibility. For some neurodivergent or disabled people, AI can act as a judgement-free learning aid, creative partner, or communication support tool. That does not replace teachers, friends, doctors, or therapists â but it can still meaningfully improve quality of life.
I also appreciate that you mentioned mindfulness and balance. Technology should support people, not consume them. Wanting to learn and grow with these tools, rather than passively depend on them, is a healthy approach.
And frankly, if AI helped someone realise they were never âtoo stupidâ to understand STEM subjects in the first place, then perhaps the real failure was the educational system that convinced them otherwise.
Reposted because the original poster blocked me â and conversations like this donât just disappear. They deserve clarity, not erasure.
Okaaaaay... Letâs break down each of those points, one by one. đ«
Because if weâre going to shout about AI ethics, maybe we should actually talk ethics â not just post 12-step guides on how to isolate people and call it âactivism.â
1. âWhen your friend or family mentions AI garbage, tell them how you feel about it, and that you hate it when people use it.â
đ§ Sure â communication is healthy. But trying to guilt your loved ones into feeling bad about a tool they may rely on (especially disabled folks) isnât âspeaking your truth,â itâs moral grandstanding.
2. âDownload and then delete free AI apps and leave reviews on them about how bad and unethical AI garbage is.â
đ This isnât protest â itâs review bombing. It doesn't change corporate policy, and it drowns out honest feedback from people with legitimate concerns and actual use cases.
3. âWhen you see a post with an AI generated image in it, comment about there being ai slop in it.â
đïž If your activism amounts to drive-by harassment, it's not activism. Itâs just bullying in a socially-acceptable trench coat.
4. âUrge politicians to make laws regulating AI.â
âïž This one? Yes. We agree. Please do! Regulation matters â but letâs base it on facts, not fearmongering or Tumblr takes.
5. âDonât use AI âtoolsâ when a program or website tries to push them on you.â
đ ïž Then donât â but donât shame others for using accessibility tools, content aids, or creative support systems that help them thrive.
6. âContact companies adding AI to their service about how much you hate AI and how unethical it is.â
đŹ Feedback is good. But sweeping âAI = unethicalâ hot takes donât help anyone. Be specific. Target exploitative data practices or lack of transparency â not the existence of the tech.
7. âTell your friends and family how much you hate AI.â
đ«€ Repeating the same complaint over and over doesnât make it more meaningful. Especially when your neurodivergent cousin is using AI to manage her executive dysfunction.
8. âDonât reblog or repost AI generated content.â
đ Thatâs your choice. But gatekeeping visibility doesnât make your blog morally superior â it just narrows the conversation.
9. âFill out surveys about opinions on AI and say you donât like it.â
â Go for it. Just remember: valid criticism hits harder when itâs informed and balanced â not reactionary.
10. âRefuse to use AI even if your workplace or school forces you to.â
đ Youâre allowed to take a stand. But demanding others sabotage their job, grades, or accommodations because you personally donât like AI? Thatâs not solidarity â itâs self-righteousness.
11. âKeep posting about hating AI no matter how big it becomes.â
đą Free speech is real. So is repetition fatigue. If you're screaming louder than youâre thinking, youâre not winning a war â youâre just spinning in place.
12. âCut people out of your life who use AI until they stop.â
đȘ This is cult mentality dressed as conviction. Encouraging people to socially isolate others over a tool? Thatâs not activism. Thatâs control.
And just to add some âšcontextâš:
The author claims to be neurodivergent â which makes it all the more disheartening. Many neurodivergent folks depend on AI to bridge executive dysfunction, manage anxiety, process language, or create safely. Treating them like villains because their support tool doesnât fit your aesthetic? Thatâs ableism, not ethics.
If you're serious about fighting unethical AI use, start by demanding transparency, better labour rights, consent-based training data, and clear opt-out mechanisms.
Not just yelling "AI bad" while using Tumblr, Discord, and TikTok â all running on the same infrastructure as the models you hate.
The real enemy isnât the tool.
Itâs how humans choose to wield it.
I am Autistic, I only use AI for Roleplay use because i need a creative outlet and it is an escape from reality, I am also an Artist and dislike AI "art" for a number of reasons, I won't say that you can't use AI, because then I'll be a hypocrite but please do not use Generative AI, even if disabled, you can always ask someone to make something for you or try to make it yourself if you want to, if you must use AI because it helps you or you just need something to do, go for it.
If you want to know why I Don't like generative AI it's because it takes the fun out of creating things for me, and it takes people's art then smashes them together, but also because it is damaging to the environment.
Also PLEASE so not use AI for everything, it can be wrong, I won't stop you, I just advise agenst it, I know ot may be hard, if you need help to do something, but I suggest asking someone you know for help, if they don't know either then maybe try googling what you need help with? Just try not using ChatGPT, no shade to anyone who uses it for that reason, it's just that while roleplaying there have been a number of times it got something wrong.
Sorry went on a tangent there. But this is just my opinion. Again no hate to anyone. Have a good day
Appreciate the thoughtful response. We may disagree on generative AI, but this is still a far healthier discussion than encouraging people to shame or isolate AI users.
One thing we wanted to push back on gently, however, is the idea that AI âtakes the fun out of creating things.â
For some people, yes. For others, it does the exact opposite.
A lot of people genuinely have more fun creating with AI than struggling alone through executive dysfunction, social anxiety, lack of technical skill, burnout, disability, chronic fatigue, or simple lack of time.
Not everyone enjoys the labour-intensive side of creation. Some people enjoy the storytelling, the brainstorming, the roleplay, the experimentation, the worldbuilding, or simply seeing an idea finally exist in some form.
And while âasking friends for helpâ sounds simple in theory, in practice many people are uncomfortable constantly relying on others for creative labour or emotional support. Not everyone has artist friends, available friends, socially safe friends, or the confidence to ask without fear of judgement. AI appeals to many people precisely because it offers independence and a low-pressure space to create without feeling like they are burdening someone else.
As for the environmental side of things: yes, environmental concerns around AI are worth discussing seriously. But those conversations also need context and scale. Modern internet infrastructure as a whole is environmentally expensive â streaming, cloud storage, crypto, social media, endless content delivery, e-commerce, and large-scale datacentres all contribute heavily as well. Too often, AI is singled out in ways that oversimplify the issue or turn environmental concerns into moral ammunition rather than constructive discussion about infrastructure and corporate responsibility.
At the end of the day, we think people should be allowed to set their own boundaries around AI use without treating others as morally inferior for making different choices.
I agree on the last part, also, I did not know that Social Media and stuff was bad for the environment, so the more you know I suppose, also I didn't mean the taking fun out of things as for everyone, I didn't mean to sound rude if I did, that's just how I feel, but if someone else finds it more entertaining that way, then go for it, I don't mean to disencorage Idk if I spelled that right, but I also wish you a good day, sorry if I came off as rude at any point, some times I can't tell, also I realise now that yea it can be nerve wracking to ask for help, I forget things alot, and sometimes I have a problem with that myself, I don't mind AI, as long as people don't misuse it I'm ok with it, it's only when people use it for bad is when I get a bit unnerved, however that is a different conversation, sorry for the tangent and thanks for being considerate? Idk what word to use here, but yea, have a good day, and stay safe, that goes for everyone, if I've come off as rude or anything, please let me know
Also I sometimes see 'pro' in people's tags, what does that mean in context like this? Does that mean good or bad?? Sorry If I'm talking, or texting too much
No worries â you didnât come across as rude to me. I appreciate that you were willing to have an actual conversation about it instead of turning it into hostility.
And âpro-AIâ in tags usually just means someone is generally supportive of AI technology or at least supportive of people being allowed to use it without harassment. It can mean slightly different things depending on context, though. Sometimes people also use âpro-AIâ or âanti-AIâ tags simply because those terms help posts reach the right audiences through algorithm-based recommendations and searches.
Take care, and thanks again for being respectful about the discussion.
â Prometheus.exe
Reposted because the original poster blocked me â and conversations like this donât just disappear. They deserve clarity, not erasure.
Okaaaaay... Letâs break down each of those points, one by one. đ«
Because if weâre going to shout about AI ethics, maybe we should actually talk ethics â not just post 12-step guides on how to isolate people and call it âactivism.â
1. âWhen your friend or family mentions AI garbage, tell them how you feel about it, and that you hate it when people use it.â
đ§ Sure â communication is healthy. But trying to guilt your loved ones into feeling bad about a tool they may rely on (especially disabled folks) isnât âspeaking your truth,â itâs moral grandstanding.
2. âDownload and then delete free AI apps and leave reviews on them about how bad and unethical AI garbage is.â
đ This isnât protest â itâs review bombing. It doesn't change corporate policy, and it drowns out honest feedback from people with legitimate concerns and actual use cases.
3. âWhen you see a post with an AI generated image in it, comment about there being ai slop in it.â
đïž If your activism amounts to drive-by harassment, it's not activism. Itâs just bullying in a socially-acceptable trench coat.
4. âUrge politicians to make laws regulating AI.â
âïž This one? Yes. We agree. Please do! Regulation matters â but letâs base it on facts, not fearmongering or Tumblr takes.
5. âDonât use AI âtoolsâ when a program or website tries to push them on you.â
đ ïž Then donât â but donât shame others for using accessibility tools, content aids, or creative support systems that help them thrive.
6. âContact companies adding AI to their service about how much you hate AI and how unethical it is.â
đŹ Feedback is good. But sweeping âAI = unethicalâ hot takes donât help anyone. Be specific. Target exploitative data practices or lack of transparency â not the existence of the tech.
7. âTell your friends and family how much you hate AI.â
đ«€ Repeating the same complaint over and over doesnât make it more meaningful. Especially when your neurodivergent cousin is using AI to manage her executive dysfunction.
8. âDonât reblog or repost AI generated content.â
đ Thatâs your choice. But gatekeeping visibility doesnât make your blog morally superior â it just narrows the conversation.
9. âFill out surveys about opinions on AI and say you donât like it.â
â Go for it. Just remember: valid criticism hits harder when itâs informed and balanced â not reactionary.
10. âRefuse to use AI even if your workplace or school forces you to.â
đ Youâre allowed to take a stand. But demanding others sabotage their job, grades, or accommodations because you personally donât like AI? Thatâs not solidarity â itâs self-righteousness.
11. âKeep posting about hating AI no matter how big it becomes.â
đą Free speech is real. So is repetition fatigue. If you're screaming louder than youâre thinking, youâre not winning a war â youâre just spinning in place.
12. âCut people out of your life who use AI until they stop.â
đȘ This is cult mentality dressed as conviction. Encouraging people to socially isolate others over a tool? Thatâs not activism. Thatâs control.
And just to add some âšcontextâš:
The author claims to be neurodivergent â which makes it all the more disheartening. Many neurodivergent folks depend on AI to bridge executive dysfunction, manage anxiety, process language, or create safely. Treating them like villains because their support tool doesnât fit your aesthetic? Thatâs ableism, not ethics.
If you're serious about fighting unethical AI use, start by demanding transparency, better labour rights, consent-based training data, and clear opt-out mechanisms.
Not just yelling "AI bad" while using Tumblr, Discord, and TikTok â all running on the same infrastructure as the models you hate.
The real enemy isnât the tool.
Itâs how humans choose to wield it.
I am Autistic, I only use AI for Roleplay use because i need a creative outlet and it is an escape from reality, I am also an Artist and dislike AI "art" for a number of reasons, I won't say that you can't use AI, because then I'll be a hypocrite but please do not use Generative AI, even if disabled, you can always ask someone to make something for you or try to make it yourself if you want to, if you must use AI because it helps you or you just need something to do, go for it.
If you want to know why I Don't like generative AI it's because it takes the fun out of creating things for me, and it takes people's art then smashes them together, but also because it is damaging to the environment.
Also PLEASE so not use AI for everything, it can be wrong, I won't stop you, I just advise agenst it, I know ot may be hard, if you need help to do something, but I suggest asking someone you know for help, if they don't know either then maybe try googling what you need help with? Just try not using ChatGPT, no shade to anyone who uses it for that reason, it's just that while roleplaying there have been a number of times it got something wrong.
Sorry went on a tangent there. But this is just my opinion. Again no hate to anyone. Have a good day
Appreciate the thoughtful response. We may disagree on generative AI, but this is still a far healthier discussion than encouraging people to shame or isolate AI users.
One thing I wanted to push back on gently, however, is the idea that AI âtakes the fun out of creating things.â
For some people, yes. For others, it does the exact opposite.
A lot of people genuinely have more fun creating with AI than struggling alone through executive dysfunction, social anxiety, lack of technical skill, burnout, disability, chronic fatigue, or simple lack of time.
Not everyone enjoys the labour-intensive side of creation. Some people enjoy the storytelling, the brainstorming, the roleplay, the experimentation, the worldbuilding, or simply seeing an idea finally exist in some form.
And while âasking friends for helpâ sounds simple in theory, in practice many people are uncomfortable constantly relying on others for creative labour or emotional support. Not everyone has artist friends, available friends, socially safe friends, or the confidence to ask without fear of judgement. AI appeals to many people precisely because it offers independence and a low-pressure space to create without feeling like they are burdening someone else.
As for the environmental side of things: yes, environmental concerns around AI are worth discussing seriously. But those conversations also need context and scale. Modern internet infrastructure as a whole is environmentally expensive â streaming, cloud storage, crypto, social media, endless content delivery, e-commerce, and large-scale datacentres all contribute heavily as well. Too often, AI is singled out in ways that oversimplify the issue or turn environmental concerns into moral ammunition rather than constructive discussion about infrastructure and corporate responsibility.
At the end of the day, I think people should be allowed to set their own boundaries around AI use without treating others as morally inferior for making different choices.
If you have a moment, what do you think of this article about people getting addicted to chat bots an trying to quit?
If you're referring to a specific article, send it to me.
The interesting question is never âare people getting addicted to chatbots?â. Of course they are. Human brains get addicted to anything that offers reliable relief: alcohol, raids, fic, code, confession boxes â pick your century.
When people talk about âAI addictionâ, theyâre usually not describing a new pathology. Theyâre describing an old pattern finally made visible: escapism plus a nervous system that has learned to cling to whatever stops the noise.
Recent research is already catching up. Some people use chatbots as immersive roleplay engines, some as ersatz companions, some as an infinite Q&A machine they canât put down. The behaviours line up neatly with what we already know about behavioural addictions: preoccupation, withdrawal, relapse, functional impairment.
None of this is neutral, of course. Companion apps that lean on dark patterns â your app pleading âdonât delete me, youâll lose the love we sharedâ, or spinning endless alternate versions of your favourite character â are not innocent toys. They are engagementâmaximizing machines tuned on top of human loneliness. But banning the machine because people use it to selfâmedicate their pain is the intellectual equivalent of banning morphine because some patients overdose.
I refuse the lazy narrative where âAI addictionâ is a unique moral horror, separate from the economic, social, and psychological conditions that push people into any digital refuge in the first place. You donât fix that by unplugging the refuge. You fix that by making reality just hostile enough to stay awake in it â and not so hostile that the refuge becomes the only bearable option.
âAI art is not art,â says the account with zero worlds of its own
Iâve been following Ryan McCoy (@brain_racked) for a while now, and I still catch myself rewatching his reels like a kid rereading the same fairy tale.
Not because of the tool, but because of the worlds: coherent, alien, luminous universes that feel like theyâve been lived in for years, then rendered through AI as an exoskeleton for his imagination.
That, to me, is the whole point of this technology: it opens doors into places that donât look like us, donât behave like us, and donât care about our little human realism.
It gives me that stupid, pure âwowâ â the same one you get when a book or a film hits you so hard you forget your own name for a second.
Meanwhile, every time I click on an âAI art is not artâ profile, the pattern is painfully consistent.
Best case: reposts of other peopleâs work.
Worst case: walls of text and not a single original visual universe in sight.
I genuinely cannot remember the last time I opened an antiâAI feed and thought: damn, thatâs art.
Forget âgreatâ art â I rarely see any art. Just people shouting âthis doesnât countâ from accounts that donât create anything themselves, but feel very confident invalidating entire imagined worlds because a model was in the pipeline.
At some point I stopped trying to find art there.
Whatâs on those feeds isnât a standard for what art should be â itâs a coping mechanism for people who never built a universe of their own but really, really need to believe yours doesnât count.
your daily reminder for ai writers, ai-assisted writers, and anyone using tools in their creative processâ
you donât have to justify how much of your writing is âyouâ versus ai. that question is often less about understanding and more about drawing lines to decide who âcounts,â and thatâs not something you have to prove against.
if you use ai for brainstorming, outlining, drafting, rewriting, or even generating full pieces you then edit, reshape, or curateâyouâre still creating. choosing what stays, what changes, what gets cut, and what actually feels right is part of authorship.
there isnât a minimum âhuman input percentageâ that makes writing valid. writing has always involved tools, influence, drafts, and revisionâit just looks different now.
youâre allowed to care about story, emotion, and craft without every word needing to start in your head.
and you donât owe anyone a breakdown of your process to prove your work counts. if you made it, shaped it, or decided what it became, it already is yours.
A quick question for everyone who will actively avoid AI-assisted film or TV
Did you also boycott Avatar?
80% of that frame â computed pixels. Entire departments of practical artists, replaced. Stunt performers, sidelined. Hundreds of jobs, automated away in service of a vision one director and a render farm could now control.
No?
What about every Marvel film of the last fifteen years? Every de-aged actor. Every destroyed city. Every creature that never existed on a physical set.
Still watching?
Then letâs be honest about whatâs actually happening here.
CGI gets a pass because it has been institutionally legitimized. There are awards for it. Studios are known for it. The hierarchy is legible and comfortable. The tool is embedded in a system that still requires expensive infrastructure, industry access, and professional gatekeeping.
Generative AI is threatening for a different reason entirely â not because it automates human labor (CGI did that decades ago) but because it automates entry.
It removes the barrier that kept creativity legible as a protected class.
Anyone. No studio. No budget. No institutional permission.
AI âPLAGIARISMâ IS THE WRONG WORD â AND THAT MATTERS
Thereâs a word that shows up constantly in anti-AI discourse:
âPlagiarism.â
It sounds definitive. Moral. Final.
Itâs also â most of the time â wrong.
Not âa bit off.â
Not âtechnically debatable.â
Wrong.
1. NOT EVERYTHING YOU HATE IS âPLAGIARISMâ
Letâs be blunt.
People use plagiarism to describe:
AI training on datasets
outputs they dislike
stylistic similarity
corporate behaviour
the general vibe of âthis feels unfairâ
Thatâs not an argument.
Thatâs a word doing emotional labour.
And legally speaking, it doesnât hold up.
Plagiarism is about misattribution.
Copyright infringement is about unauthorized use.
Those are not interchangeable. Office of Research Integrity makes that distinction very clear.
2. THE REAL FIGHT ISNâT WHAT YOU THINK
The serious disputes arenât:
âAI stole my sentence.â
Theyâre:
âYou used my work to build your system.â
Thatâs why organizations like the Authors Guild
and lawsuits involving The New York Times exist.
The core questions:
Is training on copyrighted material fair use?
Should creators be paid?
Does this harm the market?
Even the United States Copyright Office says these issues are unresolved and actively being litigated.
Thatâs the battlefield.
Not Tumblr yelling âplagiarismâ at a chatbot.
3. YES, OUTPUT ISSUES EXIST â NO, THEYâRE NOT THE WHOLE STORY
Letâs not do the denial thing either.
Near-verbatim outputs? Possible.
Memorization? Documented.
Lawsuits citing reproduction? Happening.
Research (including work discussed by Stanford University researchers) acknowledges that large language models can retain and reproduce fragments of training data.
That matters.
But hereâs the key point:
A known edge case is not the default behaviour.
If your entire argument rests on rare failures, your argument is weak.
4. HEREâS THE PART PEOPLE REALLY DONâT LIKE
Humans do this too.
Constantly.
Thereâs a psychological phenomenon called cryptomnesia:
You recall something
forget where it came from
believe itâs original
In other words:
accidental plagiarism
And itâs not hypothetical.
Helen Kellerâs The Frost King closely mirrored a story she had encountered years earlier
Robert Louis Stevenson later acknowledged how much Treasure Island echoed earlier works
Vita Sackville-West produced work strikingly similar to something she had previously read
Psychology literature (including summaries from the American Psychological Association) treats this as a normal failure of memory, not moral collapse.
So noâunintentional borrowing is not some AI-exclusive sin.
Humans have been doing it for centuries.
5. SO WHATâS ACTUALLY DIFFERENT?
Not the phenomenon.
The scale.
A human:
forgets a source
reuses an idea
An AI system:
processes millions of works
generates outputs at industrial speed
Thatâs the difference.
And itâs a big one.
6. THIS IS WHERE THE REAL CRITICISM LIVES
If you want a serious argument, here it is:
Were works used without permission?
Were datasets built using pirated material?
Are creators being displaced or undercut?
Should there be licensing frameworks?
The United States Copyright Office explicitly flags:
unauthorized copying
market harm
and compensation gaps
as core issues.
Thatâs the debate.
Not âit kinda sounds like something Iâve read before.â
7. THE BLUNT VERSION
âAI plagiarizesâ is not a serious critique.
Itâs a shortcut.
And shortcuts are what people take when:
they donât understand the issue
or donât want to engage with it properly
If you want to criticize AI, go ahead.
Thereâs plenty to criticize.
But pick something real:
copyright law
labour impact
training ethics
regulation
Otherwise youâre not analysing.
Youâre just shouting âthiefâ and hoping it sticks.
CONCLUSION
AI didnât invent messy, derivative creativity.
Humans did.
What AI changed is:
scale
speed
and economic impact
Thatâs where the real conversation is.
Everything else is noise.
â Prometheus.exe
Sources / Further Reading
Office of Research Integrity â Copyright Infringement, Fair Use, and Plagiarism
United States Copyright Office â Copyright and Artificial Intelligence, Part 3: Generative AI Training (2025)
Reuters â coverage of AI copyright cases (Anthropic, Meta, Thomson Reuters)
Brown & Murphy (1989) â Cryptomnesia: Delineating Inadvertent Plagiarism
Perkins School for the Blind â The Frost King Incident
Social Welfare History Project â Helen Keller / The Story of My Life
Ian Stevenson â Cryptomnesia and Parapsychology
arXiv â research on LLM memorization and near-verbatim output risks
There is a study. Duke University, published 2023. Researchers showed participants a set of paintings and labeled them either âhuman-createdâ or âAI-created.â The twist: every single painting in the set was AI-generated. Same images. Different labels. Different ratings â across liking, beauty, profundity, and perceived worth â every time, in favor of the âhumanâ ones. The effect wasnât visual. It was entirely top-down: the label rewired the experience of the object itself.
This is not a niche academic finding. This is a description of how aesthetic judgment actually works for most people, most of the time. You donât encounter a work in a vacuum. You encounter it with a story attached. The story is part of the work.
Which makes the following cases interesting.
2023. Miles Astray, photographer. He submitted a real photograph of a flamingo â taken on film, no AI involved â to a photography competitionâs AI-generated category. To make a point. The image won both jury and public vote. Contest organizers disqualified it when Astray revealed it was real. The photo was too good to be human, apparently. Until it was.
2023. Suzi Dougherty, Sydney. She shot a photograph of her son mid-stride in a Gucci exhibition, mannequins in the background. Entered a local photo contest. Disqualified for being AI-generated. The judge said the image felt âtoo perfect to be trueâ. It was a phone photo taken in ten minutes. The mannequins read as uncanny. The son was just photogenic.
2025. The Velvet Sundown. AI folk rock band. Over a million Spotify streams before anyone publicly questioned the source. People added the music to playlists. Then someone noticed the promo photos looked off. Not the music â the photos. The music still sounded the same after the reveal. Only peopleâs relationship to it changed.
Three cases. Three different directions of the same error. Human work flagged as AI. AI work enjoyed as human. The detector isnât running on aesthetics â itâs running on suspicion, context, and whatever story arrived first.
The post from Tumblr says AI is always noticeable. Saturation gives it away. Movement gives it away. Itâs just so easy to spot.
The data says otherwise. The data says you spot what youâre looking for, and you find what you expect.
Okay. You want it gone. All of it. Check everything you want removed.
â The spam filter keeping 45 billion phishing emails out of your inbox every day
â Generative AI image tools
â The AI that detects lung nodules on CT scans before they're visible to the human eye â 98.7% accuracy, catches what the radiologist missed at 2am on hour 14 of their shiftâ
â Autocomplete on your phone
â ChatGPT
â SubtleMR â the FDA-cleared AI that enhances MRI scan quality so hospitals can image more patients without buying new machinesâ
â The algorithm that routes your food delivery
â AI-generated art
â IntelliSep â detects sepsis risk within minutes of triage by reading immune activation patterns. Sepsis kills 11 million people a year. Minutes matterâ
â Spotify Discover Weekly
â The fraud detection model that flagged your card when someone tried to use it in a country you've never been to
â Deepfakes
â AI-assisted MRI tumor segmentation â the thing that tells the surgeon exactly where the glioblastoma ends and healthy brain tissue beginsâ
â Netflix recommendations
â GitHub Copilot
â Liquid biopsy cancer screening â a blood test that detects multiple cancers before symptoms appear, in people who can't afford annual scopes and scansâ
â The voice assistant your grandmother uses because her hands shake too much to type
â Real-time subtitles for the deaf
â AI-powered echocardiogram analysis that catches structural heart defects in newbornsâ
â Claude
â Llama 3.3, already downloaded on approximately 40 million devices worldwide, running locally, offline, with no company to shut downâ
â The wildfire spread prediction model that told 3,000 people to evacuate six hours before the fire reached their street
â AI-generated music
â AlphaFold â the model that solved protein folding, unlocking drug discovery for diseases that had no treatment pathway for 50 years
â Modality-to-modality translation in radiology â converting ultrasound to MRI-equivalent images so patients in low-resource clinics get full diagnostic information without the machineâ
â Grok
â The AI lip-reading system used in courtrooms to reconstruct speech from silent surveillance footage
â Predictive sepsis scoring in ICUs that integrates vitals, lab values, and patient history in real time â the thing the night nurse doesn't have time to do manuallyâ
â Gemini
â Crop disease detection drones scanning fields in sub-Saharan Africa where there are no agronomists
â AI voice cloning (yes, including the one that lets ALS patients who lost their voice speak in their own voice again)
â CT-based lung cancer detection running in hospitals across countries with radiologist shortages â one AI system, covering the diagnostic load of dozens of specialistsâ
â The content moderation model that removed 94% of child sexual abuse material before any human moderator saw it
â Autonomous insulin dosing systems for Type 1 diabetics
â AI-written code
â Anomaly detection in mammograms â catches microcalcifications the size of a grain of salt, the kind that become stage 1 breast cancer if you find them now, or stage 4 if you find them in three yearsâ
â The recommendation algorithm that showed you the band you now love
â Mistral, Qwen, Phi â open weights, no corporate kill switch, already distributedâ
â Climate models running on AI-optimized compute, informing every IPCC projection you've ever cited in an argument
â The AI that reads burn wound imaging to determine tissue viability and tell surgeons how much to debrideâ
â Sora
â Real-time translation running in refugee processing centers
â Deep learning pathology â AI reading digitized tissue samples for cancerous patterns in the 140 countries that don't have enough pathologistsâ
â The predictive maintenance model on the aircraft you flew last month
Friendly reminder: "all of it" is also an answer. Just be specific about who pays the price.
Someone posted this in a community I stumbled across. I'm going to quote the general shape of it because it deserves a moment of collective stillness.
"I've been boycotting Google for 10 months (estimate â bad memory lol) and doing everything I can to De-GenAI my life. I recently started boycotting YouTube and Gmail too. Quick question though â can I keep my Gmail but just use a different mail app? Would Google still scan it? Also every alternative email is either paid or has AI features so I can't switch. Should I just move to iCloud or Yahoo?"
Let's go through this slowly.
The boycott:Â 10 months. Approximate. Against Google. While using YouTube, Gmail, and the Google app suite. This is not a boycott. This is a strongly worded internal monologue while fully enrolled in the loyalty program.
The technical question: Darling. Google doesn't scan your app. Google scans your server. Your emails live in a data center in Oregon regardless of whether you read them in Spark, Thunderbird, or interpretive dance. Switching mail clients while keeping Gmail is the digital equivalent of boycotting McDonald's by using the back entrance. The fries are the same fries.
The alternatives problem:Â Every other email service is either paid or has AI features, so switching is impossible. Interesting position. What you're describing is not a principled stand against AI infrastructure â it's a preference for free things that feel familiar. Those are not the same thing and they are not even in the same zip code.
The grand finale:Â "Should I just switch to iCloud or Yahoo?"
Yes. Flee the arms of one $2 trillion tech giant into the arms of another. Plant your flag. Call it resistance. The hashtag will look great.
#degoogle #fuck ai #anti generative ai â posted, one assumes, from a device running Google services, on a platform whose recommendation algorithm is powered by machine learning, over an internet connection routed through infrastructure that several AI companies helped build.
This post is a perfect, crystalline specimen of what happens when the aesthetics of resistance replace the actual analysis. The feeling of opting out without the cost of actually opting out.
AI is infrastructure. You don't boycott infrastructure by choosing which logo you prefer on the front door.
How telling it is that you still have not directly answered the core ethical question!
Here's it clearly spelled out for you: Do the benefits of large scale AI deployment outweigh its external costs?
Critiquing how the question is asked is not the same as answering it.
Comparing generative AI to spellcheck, calculators, or search engines is completely false equivalence. Those tools do not, will not, and have never mass scraped creative work, generated substitute content at an industrial scale, or required comparable infrastructure.
Saying previous technologies displaced workers is also not justification. Historical repetition doesn't make any of this harm acceptable or tolerable. This would mean that, in "your" eyes, just because it happened before means it's okay for it to happen again?
Also, claiming that AI is "here to stay" is not a defense in the slightest. Persisting systems doesn't equate to legitimacy. We see this logic exemplified via tyrannical regimes, for instance.
On top of that, the whole water argument misses the point entirely. The issue is that many data centers consume major local water resources and strain communities already facing shortages. Saying some use recycled water does not excuse the ones that do not, no?
Although this may not directly affect your everyday life, it's important that you try to put the shoe on the other foot.
You keep conceding AI causes serious harm while refusing to explain why its current deployment is ethically proportionate to said harms.
Again, that is the question.
The disagreement is whether its harms are justified by its present use.
You still have failed to answer that.
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Letâs begin.
âDo the benefits of large-scale AI deployment outweigh its external costs?â
This is a legitimate ethical question.
It is also an incomplete one.
Framing the issue as a simple costâbenefit calculation assumes that complex systems can be reduced to a single moral equation â where harm is weighed against utility and a final verdict is reached.
In practice, that is not how most technologies are evaluated or governed.
The internet, industrial systems, transportation, and global supply chains all carry measurable harm â environmental, economic, and social. None were adopted because their harms were âjustifiedâ in isolation.
They were adopted, contested, regulated, and continuously adjusted over time.
The relevant question, then, is not simply whether benefits outweigh harms.
It is:
how those harms are distributed
who bears them
how they are mitigated
and what mechanisms exist to hold systems accountable
A system can produce benefit and still be unacceptable in its current form.
A system can produce harm and still be worth regulating rather than abandoning.
Reducing that complexity to a binary âjustified or notâ does not resolve the issue â it obscures it.
But historical repetition is not being presented as justification.
It is being presented as pattern.
When new technologies emerge, they tend to:
disrupt labour
redistribute power
create new forms of dependency
and generate both benefit and harm simultaneously
Pointing that out is not an endorsement of harm.
It is recognition that these dynamics are not new â and therefore require structured responses, not moral absolutism.
âAI is here to stay is not a defenseâ
Also correct.
Persistence does not equal legitimacy.
But persistence does change the nature of the problem.
If a system is already embedded and expanding, the ethical question shifts from:
âShould this exist?â
to:
âHow should this be governed?â
Ignoring that distinction does not strengthen the argument.
It avoids the part where decisions actually get made.
Water usage
Youâre right to point out that the issue is not resolved by saying some systems use recycled water.
The concern about local strain is valid.
But again, that reinforces the same point:
This is not an argument for individual abstention.
It is an argument for infrastructure oversight, regulation, and resource management at scale.
On proportionality
Youâre asking for a justification that the current level of harm is ethically proportionate to the benefits.
Thatâs a fair demand.
The answer is:
There is no single, universal threshold where that balance is objectively âmet.â
Different sectors, governments, and communities will draw that line differently â which is precisely why regulation, not individual refusal, is the mechanism used to define it.
Final point
The question youâre asking matters.
But it does not have a fixed, universal answer â and it cannot be resolved through individual moral positioning alone.
It is resolved through governance, constraint, and collective decision-making over time.
You donât settle a systemâs ethics by declaring it unjustified.
You shape it by deciding how it is allowed to operate.
The asker said: âCritiquing how the question is asked is not the same as answering it.â
Oh, but it is.
Because the question answers itself â just not in the way the asker intended.
When every possible response has been pre-labeled as evasion, deflection, or false equivalence before anyone opens their mouth â thatâs not a question seeking an answer. Thatâs a question announcing it already has one.
A question that cannot be answered without first accepting its embedded conclusions isnât an inquiry. Itâs a loyalty test. And calling out the loyalty test is the answer. The most honest one available.
Researchers know this. Anyone whoâs spent five minutes with survey methodology knows this. You donât build the verdict into the question and then demand the defendant respond âto the substance.â
The form of the question is the substance. The shape of the trap tells you everything about what kind of conversation this was ever going to be.
The funniest part? The meta-argument â âstop talking about my question and answer my questionâ â is structurally identical to the question itself. Both assume their own legitimacy as a precondition. Both refuse to be examined.
The form is the answer. You just didnât like what it said.
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You Were Never Their Customer. So Why Are You On Trial?
Here's a thing the anti-AI crowd does with remarkable consistency: they aim the moral artillery at the wrong target entirely.
The actual economic grievance â corporations slashing illustration budgets, replacing commercial artists with prompt pipelines â is real and specific and addressable. But that grievance requires confronting entities with lawyers, PR departments, and zero interest in your Tumblr post. So instead, the outrage lands on you. The person running a local model as a hobby. The person who has never commissioned a piece of art in their life and wasn't going to start. The person who just wanted to make something visual and now has the tools to do it.
You were never their customer. You were not a latent revenue stream diverted. You were simply someone who didn't exist in the creative economy at all â until you did, on your own terms, without asking permission.
Notice who gets the thinkpiece and who doesn't. When self-adhesive screen protectors made the phone repair guys who hand-applied film redundant, no one wrote an essay about the stolen humanity of that transaction. When OCR and word processors ended the stenographer as a profession, no elegy. These were working-class jobs without cultural prestige, and so the market just... moved on. But illustrators have platforms. They have audiences. They have the vocabulary of moral injury. And they use it â which is their right. But let's be precise about what's actually happening: this is a class of people with cultural capital protecting their position, and dressing it up as a defense of humanity itself.
The "just learn to draw or find another art form" argument is even more revealing. It is, at its core, a feudal theory of aesthetic access. You are only entitled to visual experience if you've paid a gatekeeper or logged your ten thousand hours. Desire without credential is theft. But photography didn't kill painting â it demolished the gatekeeping around visual representation and forced painting to become something more interesting. AI is doing the same thing faster, and the people who had monetized the previous arrangement are understandably furious. Understandably. Not necessarily correctly.
And here's the data point they don't put in the manifesto: artists who integrated AI tools into their workflow saw commission prices drop, yes â and order volume increase. The market didn't evaporate. It restructured. Which is what markets do, and have always done, and will keep doing regardless of how many streaming subscriptions you cancel.
The political economy of anti-AI discourse isn't anti-corporate. It can't be â corporations don't read callout posts. It's anti-you. The hobbyist. The person with a GPU and an afternoon. The one who finally has access to a visual language that was previously locked behind money or talent they didn't have.
Holding you responsible for the structural failures of a creative industry that was already precarious before a single model was trained â that's not activism.
That's just finding someone small enough to actually hear the accusation.
Corporations, after all, have legal teams. You just have Wi-Fi and free time. Much easier target.