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““A man who only walked on one path to catch the bad guys” who works for the NSA Fucker let me tell you what the NSA did to scores of innocent people #snowdrop #설강화”
(thread about snowdrop kdrama controversy & political context) ⬆
this is so predictable that it’s making my head ache that a popular kpop idol for americans is being used to promote an anti-nkorea & red scare/anti-leftism propaganda show made by disney……… truly textbook on how US cultural imperialism works & how skorean politics is inextricably tied to US conservative neocolonial agendas….
i really enjoyed the first two episodes but then i stumbled upon a thread of why snowdrop is distorting korean history and i think i'm gonna drop this drama to avoid supporting what is wrong... sorry jisoo and hae in
how to make jung haein flushed?: just be kim jisoo
Please educate yourself about Snowdrop's controversy, because it IS in fact far right-wing propaganda
I want to clarify, this isn't in any way an attempt to hate on Jisoo or BP or any of the actors. And this isn't knetz exaggerating to hate on them, this is actually a hurtful show related to the kidnapping, imprisonment, torture, and even murder of Korean students in the 80s protesting for their rights and demanding democracy under the pretext of them being "North Korean spies", a way for the government of the time to justify the horrors bestowed upon innocent civilians. I'm going to ask you all to NOT support or watch Snowdrop because it features historical revisionism by presenting characters based on people that were involved in the torture and murder of real-life students in a sympathetic light.
Jisoo's father in the drama was the real-life director of the torture agency that operated the horrible acts above mentioned, but in the drama he's presented as a man who is more fit to be a lit teacher who likes books and just happens to be involved in a messy situation, when in reality, this man was deeply involved in the crimes against the human rights perpetrated by his organization. It is not okay to present a far right-wing, authoritarian figure in a humanizing way, and divorce him from the crimes he was actively involved in, by making his character a soft lit boy who is uncomfortable with the agency he ran, when in reality he has never even apologized or shown any remorse for what he did. It would be like portraying Hitler in a human light, by showing his love for animals and making him feel icky about the holocaust but unable to do anything about it, do you see how messed up it is?
These last months, the far right-wing has been rising in Korea, pushing a revisionist agenda in which all the horrible things done against civilians fighting for their rights in the 80s are justified by twisting what happened as something justified. The government can't just ban a show based on its content, because it is operating as a democracy where artistic freedom is granted. They have never prohibited a show since the fall of the authoritarian regime that caused the atrocities that are being glossed over in the show. Korean citizens are trying to file complaints for it to not air, but it is important to not give it visibility internationally. Int-fans don't know about the painful history behind this show, and could easily believe its propagandistic content. It could seriously warp the idea the international community has about the dictatorship that took place at the time. it is an authoritarian regime apologist show.
I'll leave a thread written by a Korean person who was raised by victims of the 80s regime. it dates from months back, but their standing on the matter hasn't changed after watching the premiere and they have updated the thread. They explain the history the show is based on better than I could.
https://twitter.com/gatamchun/status/1471205914174967808
Update: The family of Park Jong-cheol, who was the student who died after brutal water torture by the NSA has spoken out about how Snowdrop is causing harm to victims of the NSA.
I translated some excerpts from the Naver article:
"Associating the democratization movement with spies is another persecution against the victims of that time."
"In the first place, the democratization movement and the NSA shouldn't be linked to spies. In fact, during the military dictatorship, many victims were subjected to violence and torture under the charge of espionage, ruining their lives, taking extreme choices, and even executing them. The logic of the state's institutions was that it happened "because they were spies". In the drama, the NSA chases real spies, and the colleague students hide spies thinking they're activists, giving their (the NSA's) claims rationality and justification."
Naver link: https://n.news.naver.com/article/079/0003587836
Jtbc, the studio which made Jisoo’s drama, also has some other issues. I don’t understand why it’s wrong for knetz to speak out against it? Distorting history of the Korean pro-democracy movements and NSA should be reason enough, so strange that a few uncaring hypocrites still want it to air, when in Korea it’s so sensitive. Are some democracies just “more equal” than others?
I will pretend it's not a wonderfully passive-aggressive ask and answer it properly since I appreciate people who send things non-anon.
1. Netizens (and anyone else) should, of course, be allowed to speak out about anything they want. That does not mean everyone else, Korean or otherwise, should automatically fall in line with what they say but are allowed to make their own judgment, since we are discussing democracies. I watched the first four episodes of this spectacularly pedestrian, boring drama and found both the government and the police and everyone associated with them portrayed as unmitigated evil, the former cartoonishly so. I have read specific incidents that raised netizens' ire and do not see what they see (the complaint female cop just left; I am sorry, even worse police forces do not 100% beat and torture everyone EVERY encounter, come on!)
2. I would like to point out that jTBC is also run and owned by Koreans, who are just as Korean as the netizen protesters against the show. So by saying the protesters have greater truth than the makers, you are picking which group in a deeply internal Korean dispute you want to side with and assigning a value authority to one group over another. That's totally fine but goes against all the non-Korean posters whose main ground for this seems to be "Korean people know better." Fine - but WHICH Korean people? The protesters? The makers? All the rest who don't seem to care one way or another?
3. "Are some democracies just “more equal” than others?" I am not sure how this relates to Snowdrop. Also, a pedantic person in me would like to point that a democracy is a purely political term and you can have a democratic society with a censorship office and censor group voted in and censorship laws supported by the public.
But I will use it in colloquial sense as intended and point out getting something yanked off air by the government for content is a quintessential non-democratic thing, take it from someone who grew up in a dictatorship with a literal censorship office. Getting something yanked off air because of public pressure is routine enough though; I do not like that on principle because I believe things, however problematic, should be allowed to exist and be accessible to people who want to consume them. (There is also the fact that I personally don't find Snowdrop problematic but this applies even if I did.)
4. I would have more faith in the netizens if they didn't also rise up against Joseon Exorcist and Mr. Queen, two purely fantasy shows, for ridiculous things (anyone complaining a show about a modern man transmigrating into a body of Joseon queen not being historically accurate has a whole toolkit's worth of screws loose, for example) or Snowdrop before a second of it aired. When you cry wolf often enough, people tune it out.
5. I am not sure how anyone wanting to continue this drama to air is an uncaring hypocrite. Wikipedia definition: "Hypocrisy is the practice of engaging in the same behavior or activity for which one criticizes another or the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform." I am sure a lot of people enjoying it never called for any other media to be canceled or even if they did, genuinely believe this does not deserve the same fate. Unless the argument anyone supporting democracy is a hypocrite if he doesn't want this canceled which is a giant stretch to connect.
In conclusion, just FYI for anyone still reading this, this is the last Snowdrop controversy ask I am going to answer (and anyone sending unpleasant messages re same will get banned, off anon or on.) It's too much energy for me to spend related to a drama I genuinely find blah, where I am no particular fan of anyone in it and where I find the brouhaha around it the most interesting thing about it for that matter, just because I do not automatically fall in line with knetz opinion that it's satan and must be canceled asap. I barely post on this snorefest and haven't in a week, so anyone inclined to argue in my inbox, go pick a fight on twitter with someone who I am sure will oblige, block me if the thought of my sheer existence enrages you, and move on.
Shana do you think we will ever see ji chang wook back in a good romance like healer (or even like suspicious partner)😭😭😭😭😭 HE IS THE MAN FOR IT HE HAS IT IN HIM WHY WON'T HE JUST GIVE US A GOOD ROMANCE!!! I really wanted to watch a romance drama for holidays but there is such a dearth of romance content lately💔💔 I love junho but I couldn't get into red sleeve cuff WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DOOOOOOOO
Alas, I don't think Ji Chang Wook will ever play a role that's as perfect as Healer.
And that's not because he's actually not great at choosing dramas (which is also kinda true) but more because Healer is one of those iconic roles that a person only lands once in a lifetime, if they're lucky. When you think of those roles - the standouts that everyone remembers and loves even years after - even actors that are excellent at choosing shows might not ever play a role like that.
Lee Junho as Kang Doo in Just Between Lovers is one of these examples. This boy is my BIAS and I will watch him in anything BECAUSE of Just Between Lovers. AND, he's great in literally everything, but no role can touch the perfect trauma soft baby that is Kang Doo, right? I mean, I'll die waiting.
I wish there was tons of soft fluffy romance airing right now! And honestly, what is UP with Ji Chang Wook? He knows he's great at skinship and romance ,so he could literally pick any role that has those features but ALSO a good story? But instead he's like hmmmm maybe I'll do backstreet rookie or melting me softly lol. Poor boy someone help him!
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#5
“DISTANT FATE”: EPISODE 15 THEORIES AND THOUGHTS
I’m pretty sure that you know how song interpretation works – to those who don’t, it is actually subjective; that was Distant Fate is for me, subjective. I think the song tells us about two fated individuals who can’t be together yet. I guess that’s what this episode means. Patience is really a virtue in everything.
I honestly thought that I wouldn’t need to write an analysis about this episode but I felt like I have to, especially when the last half of the episode came in. It was unexpected. So that being said, I’m also here to correct and check the theories that we’ve laid down before we’ve come to this point and time.
Anyways, this post contains a lot of spoilers so if you haven’t watched the episode yet because you want to watch it after the release of Episode 16 tonight, feel free to scroll down.
And to those who are strong-willed, please go and proceed!
But first, let me give you an update: Tak Dong Kyung is doing well.
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“WISHES DO COME TRUE”: FINAL EPISODE APPRECIATION POST
It is finally here: the end.
We have been through a lot with this drama, and just like that it has come to its stage. It seemed like yesterday, I was too hyped hearing the news about Seo In-guk coming back to mainstream drama and Park Bo-young being the lead female; and now we’re here. I’m feeling a bit sad but, you know, there’s nothing to be sad of, of course.
When a book closes, a new one opens - after all. And this book? The book has a happy ending after all.
That was a spoiler; but I think it’s something that we hoped for. Although it’s bittersweet to let this drama go, it’s all worth it to do so.
One thing that I appreciate about this drama is that it goes back to where it all begun.
The first scene picked up from where it left off; from the bus scene where Myul Mang – now Kim Sa-ram offered an umbrella for Dongkyung because it was raining. It’s actually a recreation of a previous scene, it’s just that, it was Dongkyung who eventually lets the umbrella go instead of Sa-ram.
Aside from that, I think that scene was also one of the most memorable scenes in the episode, because it is where he told Dongkyung that instead of coming back as a supernatural being, he was finally living as a human. Why is it romantic? It was like Sa-ram telling Dongkyung that they are finally now in equal footing. Both normal humans in love with one another – no one higher than the other; they are just ... just humans.
One thing that separates this fantasy drama from other fantasy dramas is that it actually made the couple a possibility. As you can see, it’s normal for other fantasy dramas to just retain the characteristics of the leads until the end. Great dramas that follow this templates are:
Goblin, where Kim Shin still lived as a goblin until the end of the series;
Tale of the Nine Tailed, where Lee Yeon remained to be a gumiho until the end as well;
My Love From the Star, where Do Min-joon remained as an alien and eventually went back to his planet after the end of the series – only to teleport once in a while back for Cheon Song-yi.
They are great dramas, right?
But what’s the point?
The point that I’m looking into is that, in Doom at your Service you can actually see through the end. Even if the series ends, you can imagine the ending stretching it longer that it should be. And that ending is: Kim Sa-ram and Tak Dongkyung will both die; they will spend their whole lives living like humans, dying like humans – and nobody is left behind.
That is the beauty of life; because we realize that we will wither and die, we are able to create moments and experience things in a different way. We can live our lives to the fullest and without regrets. We realize that we aren’t immortal so we try to take good care of our body. That is something Kim Sa-ram realized when he became one. That “ah, I can die now so I need to take care of myself” feeling. And didn’t he quit drinking and smoking for that?
People might think that the point I’m making is extremely tragic. Some of you might ask “why are you redirecting the topic back to death when they both survived it?” and I won’t deny that. But remember, the whole drama is all about death and the need for you to accept it in the first place. We all die, we got to accept that. That’s why we need to live our lives to the fullest and that is also the only way to see meaning in our lives.
And going through the whole episode we can really see how Kim Sa-ram and Tak Dongkyung value that virtue. They learned to treasure even the simplest things and they learn to value important relationships. That’s the essence of life. And that only happens if you accept the fact that death can come knocking to your door anytime.
It’s a beautiful irony because Kim Sa-ram was death and he did come knocking at Tak Dongkyung’s door.
Another focal character in this drama – Sonyeonshin. She was greatly misunderstood. I’ve read and heard some people actually treating her as the antagonist of the series. And I honestly can’t blame them – because, let’s be honest we did too. We knew that she knew what was going to happen but instead of forcing it to not happen; she just lets it happen anyway. But that was also our mistake. We did not look at the large picture but instead, we just kept on looking at what was happening.
I think the writer is showing us that we, even how intelligent we are, are still humans. We can’t help but look at things in a narrow perspective – that’s why we whined when we saw what she did. It’s actually the same in real life, we encounter a problem, we whine and blame everyone; but if that problem blossomed into a beautiful outcome, we never really feel thankful to anyone but ourselves.
Our fates have all been decided the moment we are born – and that fate is to die. We are humans, it is inevitable. But it is always in our hands how do we make the most of the time we are given here on Earth. HE gave us choices and we get to choose what outcome we would want to happen, and that becomes a cycle up until the moment that we meet our end. HE knew all that but HE will always choose to stay and watch – because aside from it’s interesting to, HE wanted us to learn a good lesson from our own choices.
The same is through with what happened in the whole drama series. Sonyeonshin knew what was going to happen but she allowed everything to fall to its place – because as represented by the plant, it signifies growth. She pulled the strings, but ultimately, Kim Sa-ram and Tak Dongkyung made the choices. I mean, she never forced Myul Mang to specifically choose Tak Dongkyung. She never forced Myul Mang to fall in love with Tak Dongkyung either. And she never forced him to sacrifice his life for her. But he did it anyway. And that ultimately lead us to where he is now: his destiny, his fate. To become human.
There are still a lot of things Kim Sa-ram has yet to experience as a human – but he, more or less, experienced the focal points to become one, some of it are follows:
According to Sullivan’s Interpersonal Theory, the most basic interpersonal need is tenderness. Sullivan stated that tenderness is the number one psychological need to live, without it our overall well being as a person is ruined and we will adapt maladaptively.
So where am I going to at this point? It’s the fact that this need is actually given to him by Tak Dongkyung.
A family; of course you cannot be human without a companions. He should be fine with Tak Dongkyung. But it was also her who welcomed him to her own family – which was really heartwarming. Props to Dongkyung’s family, they accept whoever the kids in the family bring in. Joo-ik even became a family after Ji-na brought him in.
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