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Hey guys.. more Deltarune miis… lmk what you think…
This is how I think they are
Oh how I'll miss you beautiful blue and your delightful, suicidal ass boyfriend yellow
Based on Carnival by JC Leyendecker
susie getting cuteness aggression from the kawkaws
Josh…Neku…pork…soda…
isn't it crazy how the first time noelle entered a dark world, she was immediately met with an older female figure dressed primarily in blue, who literally trapped her out of a misguided sense of protectiveness and a belief that she always knew what was "best" for noelle
and how when kris created a dark world in their own home, they were immediately met with an older male figure who's loud and boisterous and keeps reminding them of the worst moments of their childhood, doesn't understand their boundaries or interests anymore, and is stuck in the past
and isn't it crazy how both of those darkners eventually saw the error in their ways, saw that they were hurting the children they loved so much, and decided to be better?
which could mean nothing at all, of course.
Any “controversial” DR takes you have? Not as in extra critical, moreso a prediction that is perhaps a bit unpopular from what you see floating around usually in the fandom. My personal “hot take” predictions I guess is that Susie won’t take the reveal of Kris being partly controlled by the soul and working with the knight nicely and that that whole conflict will resolve itself in less than 5 minutes like that. I feel that way cause I don’t want issues like lying to your friends and working towards a dangerous goal to be just swept under the rug like that, it’d just feel cheap and narratively lazy to me. Same for Noelle finding out about Kris’ involvement with the Roaring Knight gang. And that there’ll be more Weird Route after chapter 5, I don’t think the webpage with 1-5 is indicative of that’s how many chapters the WR will take place in.
weeeeeeellllllll i dont usually like making predictions about future events, i have a few that i havent seen around a lot from other people but theyre not exactly controversial. but if we're doing this, then i might as well bust out this opinion ive been dancing around for a while. it's not really a prediction but it is definitely controversial to some which is why ive been reluctant to directly voice it. (and im not saying that anybody who disagrees is wrong or stupid or needs to change their mind. there are many perspectives on this and im only offering my own and i dont want to talk over anybody. i could very easily be incorrect or we might never know for sure, this is just what i believe is most likely Currently. i also know this isnt a new opinion and a lot of other people have probably said it better and coming from a more personal place.)
i do think the whole mancountry segment points towards kris being amab and i think that's important to their character. no that wouldnt make kris more "masculine" or change anything about their actual gender at all, obviously, but unless a setting establishes that our world's enforced gender binary is not the norm, a nonbinary person is still probably transitioning away from something and that does matter to their experience. a nonbinary person can still experience dysphoria and have a complex relationship with their assigned birth gender. i dont think deltarune world's perception of gender is necessarily the same as ours, in fact i think it's likely monsters and humans have different cultural views on the whole thing. hometown in particular is "pretty tolerant". but just because nobody around kris is actively misgendering or threatening them, doesnt mean they arent affected by any kind of transphobia. i understand wanting a world where that bigotry doesnt exist, and i couldve believed that this might be that world, where nonbinary is just a thing a human can always be, or even considered a "default", before chapter 3. but not after mancountry.
(there are other interpretations of what mancountry means- that it simply refers to the man behind the tree, or to "man" as a species meaning humans. those could be the case.... but when i look at the game on the whole, the usage of the word "man" in different contexts, the specific phrasing of "it's a man's world!" and "non-men are A-OK too", and the fact that this is something very personal to kris, i personally just cant see any possibility that this egg room isnt about being trans.)
A few people look at me shocked when I point out that ralsei's first ever hobby is videogames, like people, why are you all so surprised, he seemed invested on the screen like a cocomelon toddler while Kris was going through the horrors of the mantle route 😭
huh, youre right! it's the first activity he seems genuinely interested in that isnt born out of people-pleasing or his role in the prophecy. it's fitting- games are something that can be both entirely for yourself and used as a way to connect with others. and i find it notable that he's seemingly playing a one-player game, specifically an RPG, while susie watches. it's an extension of him briefly getting to control kris's character on board 2. and he gets so into it that for the first time he forgets all about his mission and lets himself simply have fun... and of course thats contrasted with forcing kris through psychological torture via NES lol. i think that's partially to remind the player that ultimately, while anything in the world can be corrupted to hurt somebody, games ARE meant for fun and self-expression. deltarune is a game youre supposed to enjoy playing, after all.
maybe the people you've talked to are still considering things like baking and sewing to be ralsei's hobbies. they still sort of count even though he didnt choose them for himself. or maybe they've just forgotten or havent really thought about how ralsei himself admits he doesnt know what his real interests are. "you've fallen for the character's facade that was meant to be dismantled by the reader" and all that. it happens!
Hi, I'm writing an AU of Deltarune; Inspired by both Princess Tutu and Revolutionary Girl Utena, I then remembered your drawings of the group in the roles you thought would best suit them. For example; Kris is a Utena flavored Anthy with Noelle being a Anthy flavored Utena. With Susie and Rasiel being Pure Utena and Pure Anthy respectively.
Could you elaborate what it means when they are a character flavored character? I find that intriguing does that mean it's like Anthy doing actions to Utena but in a way she does it?
Also are you a fan of RGU if so its nice to meet a fan
hi!! im glad to have an excuse to explain this, actually, because i like explaining things. for the reference of everyone else, the mentioned drawing is this
when i used the word "flavored" here what i more specifically meant was "they're similar to one character on an aesthetic and surface level, but if you look at their overall arc and role in the story they're more similar to this other character".
kris, on a surface level, seems like they have more in common with utena. they're both androgynous sword-wielding heroes clad in blue who take (one of) the most active role(s) in the story. as we've learned, however, kris is WAY more involved with the factors of the plot we cant see, is actually doing some shady shit behind the scenes, and might even be complicit in all the terrible things that have happened/are happening and feels trapped by guilt from all sides (but they are still just a child being manipulated+abused by adults who have convinced them it's all their fault and they deserve this), and the only way theyre able to find any sense of agency is through fucking with people. just like anthy.
on the other side, noelle appears to be a classic damsel in possession of an innate power that's being exploited, and the most obvious and undeniable victim in the cast. not only that, but a victim of misogynistic violence perpetuated by The System. and she gets drawn in anthy's red rose bride dress all the dang time, even i've done it. but noelle is flailing in the dark, she's being pulled into a trap that she can't see the full scope of, and even when given clear signals that she's in danger she keeps going deeper anyway out of a desperate desire to finally understand the world. she's the dreamer who finds comfort in familiar stories and fairy tales, and that's used against her so she can be a cog in the machine of the narrative (a very important cog, but still a cog). she looks like anthy, but she shares her deeper character elements with utena.
aaaaand then susie is more like utena than anthy, and ralsei more like anthy than utena, on both a surface and character/narrative level for reasons that i hope are obvious.
this is of course only applicable when comparing deltarune to rgu, but that happens a lot, especially wrt the weird route. the iconic "sword pull" pose has been drawn with kris and noelle countless times, in a way that fits them superficially (the active vs the passive, the hero vs the princess, and, if you want to go there, the "masculine" vs the feminine) and im not saying thats bad. the pose is instantly recognizable even to a lot of people who haven't watched rgu and on an aesthetic level it seems obvious who should be who. but if you want to look further in, maybe not!
tldr the flavor thing is my extremely simplified way of alluding to All That. (and omg of course im an rgu fan, otherwise i wouldnt have lovingly studied and redrawn all those screenshots or typed any of this)
Any specific thoughts on Noelle’s seemingly one sided crush on Susie? Ur analysis are always real neat
hm! well I kinda already talked about this but only in a tag essay like 2 1/2 years ago (here) so I can get into it again.
I think noelle's crush on susie reveals a lot about noelle as a person, though the story and framing so far have kind of conditioned us to just look at it as a surface level "omg mean tough girl x sweet shy girl! lesbians!!" and maybe even subconsciously connect it to alphys/undyne and just brush it off as the type of wholesome relationship toby likes writing. I also don't think the crush is necessarily one-sided! you could argue that susie felt pressured into saying what she did on the ferris wheel, but susie is all about breaking the rules and doing whatever she wants so that wouldn't make much sense to me. her responses seemed very genuine. it could turn out to be a fleeting feeling or susie mistaking a desire to be friends as a desire for romance, but I don't really have enough information to speculate much on that yet.
back to noelle, pre-chapter 2 noelle's attraction to susie seems far more based in fantasy than anything, kind of objectifying susie's violence. which is fine, she's a teenager, it doesn't make noelle a bad person, it just indicates that the crush is very shallow to start off. susie is also a symbol to noelle, someone she definitely sees as representing freedom and defiance, which is something she craves. noelle does end up very open to the possibility of getting to know susie as a real person once she learns susie is "nice" but her priorities are still more with her own feelings than susie's.
this is tricky to talk about as an adult, so first I'd like to remind everyone that I have Been a teenage girl and I remember very clearly what it was like, haha. anyway I would argue that noelle's interest in susie is also undeniably sexual, even if she doesn't fully realize it. I think we all kind of know that but it's uncomfortable to just say in plain language. (this is an aside but I think the way toby implies this from noelle's dialogue and internal monologue is REALLY smart from a writing perspective, it leads the brain there without getting weird about it.) in addition to freedom, susie also represents adulthood to noelle in that way. she represents the future, one where noelle can fully express herself. at the same time, noelle associates the feeling of fear with being protected by somebody else in her childhood, the past. susie is "the good kind of scary", both sexually exciting, an "adult" feeling, and nostalgically comfortable, a "child" feeling. susie could be the bridge between past and future that noelle, who is notoriously frozen in her own childhood, needs to move forward. I think that could apply even if the two don't end up together, just from noelle working through her own feelings about it all.
I could also get into the implications of suselle being "the narrative's approved ship" or how noelle's relationship with susie contrasts her relationship with kris, or even how we're conditioned to see lesbian relationships as either inherently more "wholesome" or the taboo and exciting "toxic yuri", but this is getting really long already. idk where it all will end up going but I think theres already a lot to dive into if you look past the surface!
deltarune x revolutionary girl utena
kris!! .........at last, we meet...........!!!
"neverland"
started these in june of last year, never finished
ive been trying to make a princess tutu au/crossover work for a loooooong time. most of these were drawn last year, there were other things i wanted to include but i ran out of steam. thought it was about time i shared it anyway though!
Every time Sean Astin makes a statement on whether or not Sam and Frodo were indeed gay for each other in lord of the rings he’s always like “well we have to acknowledge that attitudes around sexuality have changed dramatically over the past several decades and since authorial intent is only up to speculation, the story is open to multiple readings, some of which might have different significances for different groups of people also they kiss on the lips because I said so”
at the rose city comic con panel this month a fan asked them (sean and elijah) if sam and frodo were in love and they said
Sean: .....yes. absolutely
Elijah: 100 percent.
Sean: dont tell rosie
Rosie: "This is my husband Sam, and that's his husband, Frodo. Frodo is my husband-in-law. I'm not into him, he's he's a bit too 'elfy' for my taste, but Sam likes him, and that's fine with me. As far as I know, Frodo can't give Sam children, but Frodo looks after ours all the same, so I don't mind sharing Sam if it means another pair of eyes on the wee ones. In all honesty, our family tree is right simple compared to some hobbits. Yes, I'm referrin' to you Lobelia, over there pretendin' you ain't eavesdroppin'. Still bitter you ain't got either of my boys or their house, eh?"
Tbh it's canon that Frodo invited Sam and Rosie to move in to Bag End after their wedding and they all lived there for a couple of years until Frodo went to Valinor, so yeah. Running with it.
And once Rosie dies, Sam says his goodbyes and disappears after him.
what’s funny is people assuming that rosie would somehow be too dim or naive to KNOW that sam loved frodo, instead of looking at a guy who would loyally follow a beloved friend to hell and then help carry him home again, and not be like ‘oh i can’t not fuck that.’
Polyamory, specifically polyandry, would be an interesting solution to the oddball population of the Shire.
The Shire is excellent farming country, with consistently good weather, and only one tough winter in living memory; hobbits like to produce large families; they’re resistant to disease, rarely violent, and encounter few dangers. It is usual for hobbits to produce many children, so that (for example) Bilbo and Frodo are unusual in both being only children, with no siblings, and not having children of their own. All of this should point to a population that increases every generation if not doubling outright. Young people (and their ideologies!) should rapidly outnumber the old with an ever-increasing effect and impact on society. However, the Shire has a surprisingly stable history; it never seems to increase or decrease greatly in population, and the bell curve of age seems… demographically balanced? There certainly isn’t a conflict from rising young bloods challenging the middle-aged reactionaries; there’s no unemployment; there are no housing crises or waves of emigration, or even a tendency for young people leaving home to marry. Meanwhile, not only does the Shire not suffer from internal pressures, but it remains obscure and hardly noticed in global politics.
What makes sense here is that adult hobbits form a loose group. Four parents in a polycule, between them all, may produce four children. All four parents claim to have four children. An outsider would assume this meant the adults had eight children.
Hobbits therefore are not especially fertile or fecund. They simply have large families. Much of their interest in genealogy is due to the complex relationships of blood-kin, hearth-kin, love-kin and pledge-kin, who must all be carefully tracked and measured - not just because you need to make sure that you don’t climb into bed with an un-permitted degree of blood-kin, but to track family alliances and carefully quantify the precise level of thoughtfulness to put into the proper present to gift your father’s lover’s lover (too much implies a degree of intimacy that might upset the polycule.)
Thus, while a hobbit matron may tell a startled dwarf that she has seven sons, she might only have borne five of them herself, and have one hearth-son by her wife, and a pledge-son of her first husband’s. There are between three and four fathers involved at various stages of production, from conception to pledge-duty, but there is debate about the precise number of fathers, as one child was festival-conceived and therefore provisionally pledged to the Brandybucks until more distinctive paternal traits should materialise. It’s expected that four of the sons will be uninterested in women, and their contribution to family life will be in raising hearth-children and pledge-duty. However, this level of detail is normally negotiated later in conversation, as a mutual overture of friendship. So she’s just clear and simple: yes, certainly, she has seven sons. Yes, they’re all hers. Yes, that’s fairly normal - yes, hobbits like big families. How big? That’s really hard to say! Well, about thirteen hobbits live in her house… er, she has forty-three nieces and nephews. Yes! She has nine siblings, that’s correct, but some of them are still babies themselves..
In this way, a bewildered dwarf might assume that hobbits are absurdly fertile, producing an average of seven children per couple, at an absurd pace.
When in fact, with about half of hobbits never bearing biological children, the population of hobbits is pretty much always the same.
Tl:dr, hobbit population works perfectly well, both internally and in the perceptions of outsiders, if the majority of the Shire is gay, they’re all polyamorous, and they all firmly claim to be parents of high numbers of children. Of course Frodo fathered Sam’s kids - he named them! They were pledge-kin but not hearth-kin, as Frodo needed a lot of quiet and stability in the home.
No outsider ever parses hobbit genealogy well enough to understand this except for Gandalf, who never explains anything either.
are you kidding? Gandalf would WEAPONIZE his knowledge of Hobbit genealogy against outsiders
Since “pledge” kinships are multidimensional and can occur in different directions, hobbits can form - and formalise - family bonds simply because they choose to. Gandalf doesn’t tell anyone that the formation of Thorin’s Company, the Fellowship of the Ring, and Belladonna Took’s Accidental Troop of Mercenaries* are legal formations of pledge-siblings, a hobbit family structure usually claimed to increase social class and prestige (as high numbers of pledge-kin confer distinction on a hobbit, being a sort of popularity vote/endorsement that adds greatly to their social power. Incidentally, this is partly why Bilbo was both controversial and successful in his pledge-claim of Frodo; outsiders mistook his “bachelor” status as someone living outside of heteronormativity, while the Shire was bewildered and increasingly annoyed by his rejection of pledge and hearth commitments. By rights Bilbo had too few pledge-kin, and too little parenting experience, to claim rights to an orphan, especially one from Brandybuck hearth; but conversely, his social status was high enough that his belated bid for his very first pledge-son couldn’t reasonably be denied by anybody.)
In short, all of the hobbits enjoyed achieving even larger families on their adventures, legally and without argument or debate. It’s free real estate. If nobody else is going to sibling these losers, we will. (The condensation of so many entanglements at once also legally made Pippin his own father-in-law.)
Gandalf never explained.
* see the post about the Old Took’s “enchanted diamond cufflinks” that obeyed the wearer’s commands; which were probably, given the general state of things, two lost silmarils recovered by his Remarkable Daughters and gifted to him because things stay small and safe in the shire
@elodieunderglass wouldn't that make pippin both denethor's pledge-son-in-law, and (as pledge-brother to the king) probably outrank him?
Only through Boromir while Boromir was alive! Pippin’s familial claim through Boromir technically dissolved on Boromir’s death, as Denethor hadn’t been privy to it, and those bonds rarely stretch to a stranger when the person in the middle has died before introducing them; although Pippin, who was well-brought-up, perfectly and politely rectified the problem at once by simply swearing himself as Denethor’s pledge-son. but through his blood-cousinship to Frodo, who was older than Boromir, his status as the Took double-primarc (don’t ask) and the proximity-enhanced status-doubling effects of having a five-way cousin in Merry, Pippin was demonstrably higher status as a pledge-sibling and was also his own father-in-law and approved of himself. As such, he would have significantly raised Boromir’s social status and marital prospects in the Shire.
Inheritance follows parent-child pledge as the primary consideration, with matrilineal descent as the secondary. Pippin would have been bewildered to gradually understand that Denethor held his two sons in such odd and different standing :-/ hobbits don’t recognise kingship so it would’ve been very upsetting and disappointing to Pippin to understand how Denethor stood in position of sworn-father to a whole city of people without even being slightly fair to his younger hearth-son. Aragorn is demonstrably much better dad-material and therefore had Pippin’s vote. Pippin, by virtue of being an excellent father-in-law to a spectacularly promising young son-in-law, also considered himself a better candidate for king of Gondor than Denethor, by outranking him in Dad Competence - but was too busy by the time he realized this to point this out .
Ironically, the events in which Pippin realized this made Faramir his own hearth-son - so Pippin won in the end and took a great interest in ceremonially approving of Eowyn. Gandalf never explained
I will buy that for a dollar, yup.
It crossed my dash again! The Hobbit Polyamory Post!
Ive been playing alot of Bioshock recently, of course I love the funny man with the little mustache
missing my protagonists