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@rewriting-supernatural
Castiel is my beautiful wife whose picture I keep tucked in my helmet while I am at war
If I was like all powerful and could re-film the entirety of Supernatural to like mould it to my insane plot ideas I donāt think I would go back in time and have the original cast or anything.
I would just like wait a couple years and then re-film it and cast Jensen Ackles as John. It would be slightly evil but man would it be a fun full circle moment and a little callback for goated original fans of supernatural.
also Iām sorry I keep using middle school boy slang on this blog, my little brother is infecting my speech patterns
Sammy
Sam Winchester fiends of the world, I NEED to know how would you guys want to see Samās character arc to have wrapped up in supernatural (if you werenāt satisfied with the canon ending of the show obvs)
(Regular Sam fiends pls reply but know this is mainly focused towards crazy insane Sam girlies who have him on their tomodachi island to ākeep him safeā)
Antichrist again
(I lwk have a confession, I actually have not watched all of supernatural. That being said I love Jack he is my goat. I have not watched a single episode with him in it, so keep in mind this opinion might change a tad.)
I usually really dislike shows once their cast of characters gets too large. A good recent example of this is Stranger Things. Once it stopped being about this sad little friend group it kind of lost appeal to me. A lot of supernatural fans would have me killed for this opinion I think because honestly I donāt really care for any of the new characters past like season 5, and even then I kind of got annoyed everytime we got some new guy we had to follow around. Crowley is funny and goated, I just donāt really care for his plot lines IM SORRY.
I think we lose a very important element from the early seasons by continuing to add characters. Thereās no sense of emptiness. A big thing I liked was just how isolated and lonely Sam and Dean were. They are alone in this world and itās why theyāre so codependent.
All that being said, I do love the addition of Jack. Maybe itās just me being biased, but I do really think he is incredibly important to the story. In my opinion the whole apocalypse god/satan stuff was kind of way too much, especially that early on in the show, cause after the apocalypse what do you even follow that with??
I think the pinnacle of the show should have been some sort of antichrist plotline. But in a fun fresh way. This is SO rehashing an older post but Iād combine Jackās character and that one kid named Jesse who has magic powers who we literally never see again (what a fumbled plot line š).
Also guys just the sheer concept of Dean taking care of a kid while Cas is gone and slowly becoming his own father?? Thatās so terrible I want it badly. It would also be cool to use Cas and Mary as parallels to each other. Almost like this whole thing is Deanās final test, or his final chance to truly break the cycle of violence. I also just think itās really fun to explore parent child dynamics that end up digging into the psyche of the previously abused parent. It might be the mommy issues but thatās my bread and butter.
Focus on Christianity
One thing I think is an interesting aspect of supernatural that gets abandoned slightly by the whole apocalypse plot and also because it was hard to be woke in the 2000s is the whole myths and monsters from every region and belief.
I think later seasons of supernatural suffer from only focusing on Christianity. Itās boring, itās used, itās such a dumb trope like if I want to watch a show about angels and demons and gay people Iām gonna go watch Good Omens.
It would be cool if we were able to keep the whole like evil mythical creatures from everywhere, but in a way that they only exist because people believe in them. If somebody believes in a creature, the creature is out there somewhere. I think Sam and Dean just have a Christian lens on it because thatās how they were raised. They lived with a pastor half the time, so obviously they interpret demons as like Christian agents of Satan demons. It would be really interesting if we ever got to see the perspective of other hunters with different backgrounds. I think the way you hunt and gather information of the monsters you fight is definitely biased by your own experiences.
This is also definitely my own bias against introducing god as a character in supernatural with no real narrative purpose. I think having there be no god from the start is more of an interesting tool to push the plot than having an apocalypse Iām sorry. Iāve posted before about Deanās worship of his father as a parallel to man worshipping god, but I cannot let that point go.
Gay people are not real
I think Cas has no real understanding of why humans are homophobic because human on human shit is like how god intended things to be. My guy is on a whole other scale of wrongness because heās trying to fight this crazy fight for people to not think heās disgusting for interspecies love. He 100% has monster-fucker allegations in Angel City.
Sam is a monster fucker because he fucks werewolves and shit. He is on the very base level. Cas is on like some strange fucked up level we donāt even understand.
Dean is over here thinking he canāt like Cas because Cas is a boy and thatās bad. Castiel is having to grapple with the fact that heās in love with a creature heās been sworn to protect from day one and something that has barely existed for a fraction of his lifetime. His mere existence is beyond Deanās understanding. Insane relationship to have honestly. Why are they like that?
John Haterism
Been thinking about how much I hate John Winchester lately (shocking I know) and I think I have a little bit of an idea as to why Sam and Dean almost instantly switch up on how they feel about John after he dies in the series.
I cannot explain how essential it is to the plot that Sam and Dean have like the exact opposite reactions to Johnās death.
Sam throughout the show has these little moments, particularly when it comes to the type of person Dean is, that I think are a pretty interesting glimpse into how he treats his own trauma when it comes to John/his childhood. He acts shocked Dean could be capable of taking care of children or cooking or just generally being responsible. He has an idea of his brother that doesnāt actually exist in reality. While yes, Dean does often behave in a irresponsible way, this is only when heās goofing around with Sam when they are safe or when heās putting on a front, which I also think is interesting.
Not only does Sam have a false image of his brother, but he has one of his father as well. Despite the fact that we get multiple allusions to Dean being beat/hit by John, he says that their father never hit them in that one episode with thy kid who kills his dad and uncle because they beat his ass every day. I like to think that because Sam was able to remove himself from the abusive situation, the first thing his brain did to cope with it was black the whole thing out. The only time he really acknowledges it is that whole āget drugged out with my rapist girlfriendā arc. He cannot deal with acknowledging the things that happened to him. (This is also pretty common with victims of CSA. Your brain blocks things out but you still often feel the repercussions of the abuse through sexual dysfunction). For example, Sam acts like their dad was around and fed them and was perfectly fine, just kind of neglectful, but then very obviously shows signs of having experienced food insecurity with his incredibly restrictive eating habits.
Dean on the other hand has no way of forgetting about the abuse. He doesnāt get to forget about it because until John dies, heās still actively in it all. He defends their dad during the beginning because unlike Sam, he has a memory of before the abuse. (Another common reaction with victims of CSA is to become incredibly close with their abuser and defend them.) I think Dean would also try and act like everything was just fine because he wants to protect Sam from it all. Sam is his responsibility and Sam in his mind will always be his baby, so of course heās lying to protect his little brother.
But once he finally reacts to the abuse, heās able to admit to himself that this is wrong. Hence why he completely flip-flops on his feelings about John. Heās in the process of acknowledging his abuse, while Sam is over here being like āDean stop, dad LOVED US.ā Like yeah buddy maybe he loved you, but not Dean. I also think with Sam being the favorite, Dean definitely faced harsher abuse than he did. Thereās no way that boy wasnāt taking punches for his little brother.
The interesting thing to me is that no matter how hard Dean tries to keep up this masculine front and pretends like heās just some lazy slob who over-indulges in everything (his food insecurity popping up in that the second that guy gets food heās eating everything on the plate), no matter how hard he tries to forget everything, itās always going to be there and thereās nothing he can do about it. I think itās also inherently tied to his queerness in a way. To Dean the only way he could have escaped being beat by his dad was to be the man his dad wanted him to be, but instead heās some soft queer.
To specify, I do think Dean and Samās sexual abuse are very different from one another. Itās not necessarily something you HAVE to read into, itās just something I have pondered incorporating to my version of supernatural. Samās abuse started from day one. I think everything that yellow-eyes does to him is very similar to grooming. Iāve posted about this before Iām pretty sure, but I feel the need to hammer this point in. The fact that it permeates into everything Sam does is SO important to his character. Itās also why he allows himself into terrible relationships like his dating Ruby. People who are victimized young are likely to be victimized again. As for Dean, I read into his strange relationship with John as at the very least emotionally incestuous. After Mary dies, Dean completely fulfills that role of mom of the family and wife in that heās taking care of Sam and taking care of the house. If anything, I think John would have blurred the lines of what is appropriate to task a 10 year old with. Itās why Dean is so conflicted about being a āreal manā. His dad pushed this being straight and being a real tough man on him, but then is exactly the reason why he can never be. Regardless of Deanās personality or his own sexual inclinations, his dad feminizes him in pushing him into Maryās role and having such a weird relationship with his son. But once Dean starts resembling a grown man the abuse (minus physical heās still beating that boy) completely cuts off. Like Dean choosing to be queer is what makes it disgusting of him. Then he sends him on that whole ākill these lesbian nuns, this definitely isnāt a message about what happens to gay people son.ā Mission.
Anyway thanks so much John for fucking up both of these boys!
Heaven
Thinking about my all time favorite supernatural episodes and I need to share.
Dark Side of the Moon (5x16 I think?) gotta be the worst best episode in this fuckass show. I think about that episode weekly honestly. I hear Knocking on Heavenās Door and I lock the fuck in and get flashbacks.
I think it should have held way more weight than it does in the show. I know the whole bit of the show is like āweāre never gonna lie to each other again!ā And then they lie to each other immediately after and fight and then they are back together the next episode no talking about it or nothing, but I donāt really think this is a moving on moment, at least not for Dean. Dean Winchester has spent his ENTIRE LIFE from the age of 5 taking care of Sam and being told he has to protect him with his life. And then they go to heaven and Samās persona heaven is when he ran away from Dean and Dean was presumably getting abuse at home from John for letting anything happen to Sam.
I think the exact plot of this whole episode doesnāt quite fit the whole idea of my rewritten version of supernatural, because going to heaven to hide from angels is just so absurd.
I like the idea of like hotel California/lair of the lotus eaters style motel that Sam and Dean stop at and theyāre just eternally trapped while some entity feeds off of them or something. It presents you with this idealized version of live based off of your best memories to keep you stuck. I think after defeating the weird creature having them trapped there, Dean would tweak out about Samās ideal world being without him. The throwing away of the samulet has gotta be more important than I was in the show that shit was heartbreaking. My guy has been wearing that shit since 10. I think they should have had a longer fight.
I think that should have been a real point of contention in the plot. Like this is clearly not supposed to be the same as all of the rest of their fights. Itās set aside as more serious, but definitely not enough. This is what really breaks the bond between the two. It cements in Deanās mind that his brother doesnāt love him. I think it would be the parallel episode to the reveal that Dean killed John. Itās the same level of betrayal to both of them, and what destroys their trust in one another.
anyway just some thoughts
The Antichrist
If I were to go off the plot line of Dean getting to survive and retire my biggest bad guy, the utter pinnacle of the show would be the antichrist. Not in the same way it is in the show though. It would be much more compressed.
Thereās obviously the main yellow eyed demon thing (which for all that build up really deserved more of a conclusion idk) and then John being dead, but I think the final big scary thing is going to be how to deal with the whole antichrist thing except thereās no god and now Lucifer doesnāt really have some guy to fight all the time, so now he just has some super powered kid he doesnāt give a fuck about.
I think Iām gonna combine Jesse and Jack into one character because why the FUCK would they introduce Jesse just to have him disappear himself. Plus having a kid would kind of settle the Dean arc. The last thing he has to do to truly rid himself of John is to kill the John within himself. I think he often sees John in his own actions and is terrified of who heāll become.
Having a kid like this dude has wanted since the very start of the series would prove that he is capable of not becoming John. That he really does get to be a person in his own right.
(I do also believe that Ben is his son, but I do not think that Lisa would allow him to see Dean, or admit that Ben was his son, until Dean was finally out of the hunting lifestyle because she wants him safe and danger follows hunters everywhere)
The Colt
Iām keeping the colt in the story cause back in the day when that was the most powerful weapon the only thing that could kill demons and it only has this many bullets it was insanely cool.
Getting their hands on angelic weapons or other shit that can kill demons made it boring.
I donāt think angels need weapons like humans do. They are violent in a way that is inhuman. Demons have weapons because they mirror human awfulness. Angels can rip all your organs out of your body or flip you inside out by thinking. Why would they need a sword or some shit??
I think John and Dean would have gone on some long grueling mission to find the colt. So we already have it pre-Sam. Why would this be important? Because I think it would be funny and a little poetic to have the colt be the gun Dean kills his father with. This demon killing weapon taking out the man who ruined his life is just so special as an idea to me.
Does Dean know the importance of this gum and how they have only a few bullets and how it could get rid of that yellow eyed demon who ruined their lives? Yes. But he uses it anyway. He wastes bullets and shoots his dad one too many times than necessary before he realized how heās fucked himself over.
Sam also gets to look at his suspicious when he finds out thereās like one bullet left and Dean hits the āyeah I just found it like thatā before he learns the truth and tweaks the fuck out because that could have stopped the very man who has destroyed his entire life.
Sam vs Cocaine
One of the very important things about Sam that I think needs to be stressed is just how insanely weird his relationship with Ruby is. It is not normal for him in any capacity. Thatās what makes it so relevant to his character development.
Samās relationship with Ruby in my mind is the lowest of the lows in his life. Heās geeking on demon blood, heās getting whipped around by some demon lady, and frankly I think something about their relationship is a little rapey considering how often she coerces Sam into doing things or how often she initiates stuff with him when he is high.
One of the core parts of Sam that I think he has made a central part of him is just how driven he is. Sam is not lazy, Sam is not uninspired. He takes a piss poor high school education and works his ass off to get into Stanford and he makes it. Sam doesnāt smoke, he doesnāt drink, he doesnāt eat meat, he has a good sleep schedule, he has a routine, he works out, he socializes. He is passionate about his life.
I think hunting is truly the thing that ruins him, and itās why he would be INSANELY upset with Dean for tricking him into coming back. Hunting is something he has been trying to leave behind for years and it takes away that control he so desperately wants over his life.
The more he unpacks the weird sexual harassment and abuse that has happened to him and the more heās in this lifestyle, the more Samās drive falls apart. He gets with Ruby and starts geeking out on demon blood because itās some desperate attempt on his end to get some say over his life again, but to everyone on the outside, that is the exact thing causing the disintegration of Samās drive and passions. Hunting takes him to this depressive self destructive spiral. He doesnāt want this life and he does infinitely better when he runs away.
anyway those are just some more Sammy thoughts
The humble flashback episode
Personally I think Eric Kripke and the other writers on supernatural WAYYYY underuse flashback episodes. Thereās so much insane potential there.
If it wasnāt blatantly obvious by now, I love childhood episodes in supernatural. I love getting to see little glimpses of what got us here. The flashback episodes should really just twist the knife of whatever upsetting plot line weāre in.
I think we should see childhood flashbacks almost near constantly in particularly Dean focused episodes. Itās those moments that define his routine, his motivations, his everything.
As for Sam, I think heās much more focused on trying to forget about that and frankly Iād just like to see more of his college life. I want to see the Sam he so desperately tries to be.
The only point in time I would want to be intentionally obscured would be those years without Sam. Something has obviously happened because Dean is changed. Heās cagier and desperate and thereās just something off about it. (Also itās the span of time that lead up to and was the moment when he killed his own father, but thatās kind of inferred later) I want the audience to be in the dark just like Sam.
The only time we ever get some sort of explanation or justification besides a few times in which Dean drunkenly confesses that dad was ādifferentā after Sam left is right after Sam finds out what Dean did. Then I would dedicate an entire episode to Dean and Johnās relationship post Sam and just what exactly made Dean snap. Thatās also when we would find get an unobscured vision of John. It would be the first time Dean truly sees his dad for what he is.
Endings
One thing Iāve been in conflict about is how I would choose to end supernatural.
There are a lot of different directions to go and Iāve settled on two flimsy ones that definitely need further pondering before they would ever be set in stone.
The first idea is to go off of the original ending of supernatural itself. The cons to this are just how the ending is incredibly unsatisfying and feels homophobic. (Do not talk to me about that fuckass wig)
The concept of this whole thing is that Sam and Dean have that Cain and Abel motif throughout the entire show, highlighted by the single time they meet an angel other than Cas during the show. Probably a much much older and more powerful angel so they are not questioned for choosing to spend time on earth and growing a fondness for humans. The angel would see them and almost get them mixed up with Cain and Abel and say some mysterious thing about how the boys ālook like somebody they used to knowā.
Then that ending would consist of Sam finding out about Dean killing their dad and having some sort of fight and killing him. But that would also mean that nothing has truly changed from the beginning to the end. Like it was fate for Dean to die on a hunt and nothing could change that.
But⦠even if I made a point to be like āit was just fateā I think it still cheapens the plot a little bit, because I think the whole point of the Dean-kills-John idea is that Dean does something he would never do. He does something that completely changes the whole course of the plot. So I think his ending deserves something a little more appropriate.
There is something very awful and fitting about Dean not being able to change anything about his life.
But I like the idea that the whole thing that makes up the concept of the whole Dean-kills-John is the fact that itās something Dean would never do. Itās an action that completely breaks the original narrative.
Making killing his own father the one thing that changes his ādestinyā feels like peak writing idk. John being the catalyst is something very important to me. He got Dean into this life, and heās the thing in the way of Dean leaving. John being gone, and being gone for good, enables him the chance to slip away.
That ending would prob play out with Dean getting injured in a serious way that entirely pulls him out of hunting and Iām NOT having Cas heal him because that is silly. Cas wants him to leave at this point because he is a mushy little man by the end and maybe he wants Dean to be safe. Maybe he wants to take care of him the way people take care of each other, not angels.
Anyway Iām sorry about the extreme yap š
My GOAT Bobby
People misinterpreting Bobbyās character. No more of this āwhy do Sam and Dean just go ask Bobby for help all the time?? What happened to them being capable adults??ā They frankly are not.
Neither of them know how to be normal functioning adults in society. Dean doesnāt even try and the last time we saw Sam being a normal person he destroyed his office and went nuts. They have never had a proper adult/caretaker in their lives and that has lasting psychological effects.
A large amount of people who have shitty parents try and seek out their parents in other people. Whether in a literal parental sense (ie: treating a teacher or mentor like a parent) or in a romantic or sexual sense. (Daddy issues) It would not be surprising for Sam and Dean to do the same thing.
Both of them immediately latch onto Bobby and go to him for every single little thing they might need help with because they could never do that before. John was not really a supportive or loving dad, so they couldnāt go to him for everything, and relying just on themselves has proved to be stupid.
Bobby being nerfed repeatedly so that the stakes are raised because Dean and Sam have no one else to rely on is also fucking dumb. Just create villains that are actually difficult to defeat. No magic angel blades and plot armor and constant resurrection and shit. Then it is more realistic to need him as a character.
Slightly unrelated, but I also think that Bobby would be their gateway into Ellen being able to help them out. John burnt all kinds of bridges there, but I like to imagine she and Bobby are still really good friends. I personally also believe that Ellen, Jo, and Ash are all insanely underutilized characters. Plus Jo going along on hunts and being like their sister (she is Adam and Deanās sister in my mind. I refuse to support DeanxJo) can help with supernaturalās complete lack of women problem. You kinda have to balance it out when you kill off or shelf most female characters.
TLDR: Let my goat Bobby just be their dad. I thought that was kind of the whole point??
How do you feel about the possibility of maybe exploring or going more into depth about military allegories/ maybe (metaphors?) I canāt really seem to find a good word on it and have no idea if what Iām saying makes the most sense but I feel like the whole thing with hunters/hunting in supernatural always felt similar to people who where military like the always being compared to soldiers, the PTSD/ just the intense psychological/emotional toll that some hunting situations put them in, the whole thing where āonce youāre in the life you can never essentially leave or āfind peace or go back to normalā , and their duty to protect civilians and sacrifice. From the show itself i feel like they carry a lot of burdens soldiers do basically. IDK if Iām reading wayyy too into it cuz Iām insane but i kind of maybe just wanted to get the thought out there LMAO
THIS!!!!
I love love love talking about this. I think it is just so important that itās not that Sam and Dean are hunters but that they are often referred to as soldiers. They are their dadās little soldier boys and I think thatās something so relevant to who they are. It also cements kind of that othering they feel. Nobody else will get it.
Seeing the boys in normal settings always made me happy because it was nice to see them happy, but I also thoroughly enjoy seeing just how the Hunter lifestyle permeates into everything you do. Itās always there in the back of your brain and it will affect you forever. They arenāt normal and they lose it over random things and are constantly paranoid and itās so very human and sad.
While they can try and leave you can never truly leave that part of your life behind.
I also think that is why hunters tend to group together. Sure itās a safety and information thing, but itās also for comfort. They want somebody who can understand them.
I like the idea of Sam and Dean having some Veterans Day project one of the few days they were in school and relating more to the veterans they talk to than their own peers.
I kinda see Dean leaving the life and killing John as something akin to defecting. Thereās this shame in it but also the fact that you know it was either you or them.
Hunters
One thing I really like from supernatural is when we get to see other hunters and get to have a little glimpse into their lives and how they deal with hunting. Itās really interesting to get to see what exactly brought them into hunting and how they all kind of started out scraping by and learning from the monsters they ran into until running into other hunters and kind of making this whole underground communication system to keep each other safe.
The one thing I think supernatural should have done is cut the boys almost entirely off from this support system. Them struggling on their own really makes no sense when they could have just talked to all these other hunters. They need to have a true sense of being alone in all of this to truly raise the stakes.
I also think John doesnāt particularly care about the whole hunter community. His priority is his family unit, and he doesnāt even really take care of Sam and Dean properly. He uses people for what he needs and he burns bridges and lets people die all the time if it gets him closer to finding the demon who killed Mary. Hence why Bobby ran him off his property and fought him.
John has never once seen them as a community because he wasnāt raised in hunting. Theyāre a bunch of random people, who are helpful tools, sure. But ultimately should stay out of his family and his business.
It would be an interesting plot line to have spent all this time focusing on them learning on their own and when faced with some monster they really have no clue how to fight they desperately call Bobby only to find out they could have been doing this the whole time. There are other people like them. Neither of them are alone and as vastly different as they thought.
John and Mary
Not sure how much Iāve talked about this before, but if I were to remake supernatural I would have some very choice stylistic portrayals of both John and Mary.
While I love that Mary isnāt totally a dead wife stereotype and was the one to introduce John into hunting in the first place, I do really dislike how much we do end up knowing about her through time travel and her coming back to life. The whole point is her death drives the plot. I think itās much more impactful somehow to know as little about her as Sam and Dean do. Nobody knows who she is or where she came from, and the only person they might have learned anything about her is from their now dead father who told them nothing.
I kinda want Mary to haunt the narrative. Her death is the catalyst of this whole story and yet we know next to nothing about her.
As for John, I think the way he is shown is important. In my version (my AU if you will) he is dead from the very beginning so we never technically see him, but I am an absolute sucker for their childhood flashback episodes. I think it would be kind of cool to have him always obscured. Heās just always towering over Sam and Dean, shadowy so we never quite see his face.
The only moment we really get a clear look at John is the moment that Dean threatens to kill him, because that is the exact moment Dean finally sees him as he truly is. (In this version we would get a flashback episode when Sam finally discovers that Dean killed John and has been leading him off on this wild goose chase).