The Stozier Guy

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[rophiii]

Realized I should probably make some sort of intro post

This blog is for IT stuff mainly. I probably will also occasionally post about Stranger Things and other topics that are adjacent to IT.

I’m a super big rambler, so expect a lot of yapping from me. I also draw and write stuff, so you’ll see some fanart/fanfic posts sometimes too. Feel free to send me asks, I love to talk about stuff! I’m also open to doodle requests, though I can’t guarantee I’ll complete them. I’m super friendly, so don’t be scared to interact.

I love Stozier so much they are my pride and joy and they live in my brain rent free. I’m also a huge fan of Kaspbrough and Hanbrough (I genuinely can’t choose between them, I love them equally). I also heavily fw Bichie, Stenbrough, and Reddie. And I’m a fan of every platonic Losers pairing because I love them so much + I’m pretty chill about most other ships as I am a huge multishipper.

If you want to see more of me, my main blog is @vastraphi. It’s my art blog that I occasionally post on— I’m hoping to be more active on there than I have been in the past, but no promises! I post TBHK and P5R stuff on there, as well as other random art stuff I’ve done. I also occasionally shitpost on there.

I am an adult, my age is in my bio. I do not mind minors interacting with my blog, but please be mindful in doing so. I’m cool chatting with y’all in comment sections or potentially being moots, but I will mostly only interact with you if you interact with me first. If you dm me I will likely not respond, or if I do it will be very minimal. I love y’all, but stay safe on the internet please <3

[stonedstozier]

*pounding rapidly on a table* i will say this until the day i die:

stan 👏 is 👏 soft 👏 for 👏 richie 👏 behind 👏 closed 👏 doors 👏

[deerintheroads]

Streddie! Commision for a friend.

[itsfenixme]

I want to focus a little more about Eddie and Bill’s relationship since I feel like I could have said more especially from Eddie’s perspective (they are my favorite dynamic in the group if it’s not clear lol).

I wanted to talk a little more about how they are literally codependent on one another ESPECIALLY Eddie. On this post I decided to write a couple of signs of codependency and this time even with quotes from the book.

1. Difficulty experiencing appropriate levels of self-esteem:

Eddie always brings himself down when talking about Bill who he see as this amazing figure that is so much better than him. He has an hard time even believing that someone as cool as Bill would ever be his friend because he’s such a loser.

2. Idealization

Connected to the previous one, he sees in Bill this role model who he has to inspire and that can do bo wrong. Of course that is not true since Bill os a flawed character like anyone else.

3. A mood that reflects how others feel rather than your own emotions:

There are numerous times when his mood was ruined just because he thought that Bill was a little sad to the point he literally couldn’t focus about anything else than how Bill was feeling.

4. Constant feeling of self-sacrificing

It’s not once, but numerous times, Eddie talked about how he would be ready do to everything for Bill, even if that meant losing his life. Then maybe less extreme, but still concerning are the times he say ‘For you, Big Bill’ as if everything depended on his approval. 

Like I’ve said in my previous posts, I believe that this behavior stems from the emotional incestus relationship with his mother who basically acts like if she couldn’t live without him and the absence of father figure certainly doesn’t help.

It doesn’t help the fact that Bill didn’t even realize that this is happening or maybe even encouraged it (we don’t know what happened before the story between the two). I see that very likely because he’s a very lonely boy who barely get considered at home so maybe unconsciously he made the affection stronger so that he could get that love he so desperately missed and because in that way he knew that he at least wouldn’t leave him.

Even the fact he calls Eddie his only real friend is such an important detail: he saw Eddie as the closest person he had in his life after losing George (since we know that his parents emotionally neglected him). They both believed they had only each other so they idea that they became codependent on one another wouldn’t be really that surprising.

[rophiii]

I need to draw more IT fanart but I have no motivation and no time… someday soon hopefully, ArtFight has me swamped rn

[birdstanley]

i see many a post saying the pomeranian that richie and eddie get when they live together is named stanley. i love this hc. i wish it existed in more aus where stan survives because stan would FUCKING HATE THAT DOG

i also propose that stan, in retaliation, names one of his pigeons richie. because yes stan owns multiple pigeons in adulthood and im not arguing with anyone over that it's fact. also he marries bill and richie is bills favourite pigeon out of all of them. stan hates this fact (he's just happy bill likes the birds).

[itsfenixme]

I’ve been reminded about a topic I wanted to treat for a while now: Is Bill and Eddie’s relationship unhealthy? Even if in this post I will basically analyze every aspect of their relationship.

Eddie grew up with an emotional immature parent and for him caring about someone means basically ‘do everything to make them happy’, with Bill his obsession is even more intense because Bill for the longest time was the only friend he ever had and the only kid how treated him with some kind of respect.

Another part of Eddie’s personality is also that he’s VERY insecure to the point he believes that his friends are basically doing a act of charity at hanging around him. And that is even stronger around Bill because he can’t accept the idea that someone normal like Bill wanting to spend time with a ‘freak’ like him. He believes that he’s undeserving of that friendship.

His insecurity is very clear in Eddie’s bad break when Bill wants to sign his cast, he can only think that if he broke his arm earlier that spring nobody would have sign it WHEN IT’S NOT TRUE.

Than also he admires Bill because has a stronger personality than him (basically isn’t a crybaby), Bill ignores the bullies and mostly Bill is cool. A normal kid would do nothing about it, but for Eddie that never had a good parenting figure, he tries to imitate those behaviors to be like Bill.

Now let’s focus a little bit about Bill. Bill recalls Eddie to be the only ‘real friend’ he had during that time he was grieving his brother, so in my opinion he cares about Eddie the same of how much Eddie cares about him, he just is too scared to admit that because he believes that admitting that would make the eventual loss of him just as painful as it has been for George. And however say otherwise JUST READ ‘BILL BEATS THE DEVIL’ AGAIN.

That chapter was very much when Bill reached the bottom, he was crying over being sure of the soon coming loss of him and not even being able to leave his side to get his inhaler to save him just because he was too scare of the thought of leaving him there to die alone. Just like Georgie. And in the same chapter we see Bill risking his life just to get Eddie’s inhaler. Just like the friend he would’ve die for him.

In the rest of the novel Bill shows pretty often his caring for Eddie with little things that sure he doesn’t do for the others. Like for example he often offers to protect Eddie directly or he’s shown to worry way more about him than the others. But I will talk more about this in another post since otherwise this will last forever.

Than also we have to remember that Bill doesn’t believe he deserves to be loved since he believes he’s the cause of Georgie’s death and because of that he often tries to musk his feelings even if he’s having a very hard time grieving his brother.

All of this just to say that I wouldn’t define their relationship unhealthy in the way that is one sided, but it’s unhealthy because they rely too much on one another: Bill uses Eddie as a way to grieve, but at the same time he’s not able to admit how much he cares about him, while Eddie just wants that validation so bad that he’s ready do to anything Bill wants him to do.

That’s also why Eddie had to die to complete Bill’s arc because it represents how he finally is able to accept George’s death and grow up.

[stonedstozier]

stozier + kaspbrough double date???? 👀

[rophiii]

No cause I think about the arcade scene in Chapter 2 all the time—not for the reasons you would think, but because Bower’s stupid ass cousin who Richie flirted with KIND OF LOOKS LIKE STAN!!! Like that bitch had blond, curly hair WITH THAT SAME FUCKING SIDE PART and you’re telling me I’m not supposed to believe Richie thought he was cute because he looked like one of his best friends? Hmm??? YOU’RE TELLING ME IM SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE THAT FUCKASS HAIRSTYLE WASNT INTENTIONAL ARE YOU KIDDING ME I KNOW THE TRUTH YOU CANT LIE TO ME STOZIER IS REAL I SWEAR TO ADLKWKSJSKEJSJDS

[stonedstozier]

i don’t want to be controversial, but like why does no one talk about how book eddie is literally obsessed with bill?

[rophiii]

Was it casual when he said he’d probably die for Bill, if Bill had asked him to?

[rophiii]

accidentally created a crossover crackship in my head and then found out the movie that one of the characters is from has exactly 4 works on AO3 so basically I’m fucking cooked

[rophiii]

Book Eddie Kaspbrak is so funny to me because wdym this middle schooler blackmailed his own mother into letting him continue to hang out with his friends

[rophiii]

It just clicked for me that every Loser is an only child, except for Bill. Therefore none of them could ever truly understand how it feels to lose a sibling, which probably contributed to why Bill rarely felt like he could really be vulnerable and talk about his problems with his friends and also added another layer of separation between him and them.

[itsfenixme]

If I had a nickel for every time that I had a main character who was the leader of their group, who is kinda of an asshole to everyone in their life because in reality they are just insecure of themselves thanks to the treatment they receive from their neglectful parents and also by the bullies that LOVE to bully especially the character’s best friend, who is often referred with homophobic slurs just because they are more frail that the average guy their age, making the character always feel responsible for their well being in a way that SURELY doesn’t seem romantic 👀.

They also have a crush on a girl they met like last week who they treat like ass just because, how also will always come second to their best friend. In the “original group” there is of course the best friend, the comedic relief who weirdly has a problem with their teeth and also is the smartest guy there, and lastly there is the “voice of reason” of the group that is for some reason always part of a minority and the only one to actually think and not follow blindly the main character’s weird plan to somehow save them from a monster out of this world.

As adults they both became authors who somehow forgot about how important was their bsf and their girlfriend… I would have two nickels, but it’s weird that it happened twice.

[richietozierlefteyebrow]

Bill and Mike

[rophiii]

On occasion I do accountant work for my mom (cause it’s good money, and I can’t be picky) and I absolutely despise doing it— but recently I’ve started telling myself “this is so Stanley Uris coded” while working, and it’s made the whole job more bearable

[itsfenixme]

As someone who loves Bill (he is only second to Eddie because nobody can beat him) I fully get people that don’t like him in the movie because… I was one of them.

LET ME EXPLAIN: I love Bill, as most people who have read the book can agree he’s one of the best characters, but the reason he’s so much better in the novel than in IT 2017 is that there he is a more human character.

Novel Bill cares about his friends and interact nicely with them often, ofc him and Eddie, but he is nice also with Ben and Mike, 3 friendship completely removed from the movie. IT 2017 Bill cares only about two things: his dead brother and Bev, while book Bill barely considers her at all for most of the novel, and if he does, it’s in a friendly way like he would treat Stan or Ben of and of the losers.

Then without the internal monologue we lose so much of those character: we hear about his emotional neglect, his struggles with grief, his relationship with his friends, his struggles with being a leader (a role he never asked to be but now he has to do to protect his friends) and all the worries that make him a kid like the others.

Another very important thing is that a lot of scene that humanize him in the novel got taken out/completely changed: when he cried because he thought that Eddie was going to die, when he was sobbing thinking that he’s the reason George died, when he’s playing as a normal kid… they removed that only to make him this adult hero he never was meant to be.

PS. If I wasn’t clear enough, I’m only talking about CHILD Bill, both adults versions pmo.

[rophiii]

STRONGLY AGREE with this. Movie Bill was fine, but I have so much appreciation for Novel Bill. He’s such a compelling character. I didn’t understand how he was supposed to be the “leader” character, until reading the book.

One of my favorite parts about Novel Bill is how compassionate and accepting he is towards his peers.

In chapter 5, when Ben is explaining how they should make the dam and is referring to the project as something that he himself is not a part of, Bill immediately corrects him and makes sure Ben knows that he is a part of their little group now.

In chapter 14, when Mike hangs out with the Losers for the first time, Bill asks if he can ask him a question and Mike immediately assumes that the question is going to be about his race. Instead, Bill just asks him a question about baseball. He doesn’t single him out (which is honestly the bare minimum, but this does take place the 50s), he just treats him as he would anyone else.

Novel Bill even treats Bev the same way as the rest of the Losers, for the most part. The only key differences that I can think of off the top of my head are the very rare semi-romantic thoughts he has towards her + him wanting her to sit out of the Smoke-Hole Ritual in chapter 15, on the basis of her being a girl.

Throughout the book, all of the Losers think very highly of Bill. He’s a great friend, and they all have so much respect for him. Hell, Eddie practically idolizes him. And all the while he’s being a great friend to the Losers, he’s simultaneously envious of them. I constantly think back to his internal monologue at the end of chapter 14:

“He saw the gratitude in their eyes and felt a measure of gladness for them… but their gratitude did little to heal his own horror. In fact, there was something in their gratitude which made him want to hate them. Would he never be able to express his own terror, lest the fragile welds that made them into one thing should let go? And even to think such a thing wasn't really fair, was it? Because in some measure at least he was using them-using his friends, risking their lives to settle the score for his dead brother.”

As much as Bill loves his friends, he’s also envious of the fact that they have him to rely on. He feels like the glue of the group, that he must be strong and brave for them. He’s a kid forced to grow up too fast— neglected by his parents. Bill treats the Losers how he wishes his parents treated him. And even while he’s jealous of them, he still brings himself to feel guilty about them helping him go up against It. He feels like he’s using them, when in actuality they’re here because 1) It has also tormented them and 2) he is their friend and they care about him enough to stand by his side.

On the subject of book and movie differences, I will also forever be upset that they removed the importance of “He thrusts his fists against the posts, and still insists he sees the ghosts.” That line is supposed to haunt Bill. The repetition of it shows how desperate Bill is for his parents’ attention. If he can just say the whole tongue twister once without stuttering, maybe they will be proud of him and actually acknowledge him for once. The fact that it’s only mentioned passively in two movie scenes (that I can remember off the top of my head) is criminal.

But basically the main point I was trying to make is that Bill’s friendships are so so so important to his character and shape who he is, hence why it’s very unfortunate that they remove a lot of that from his character in the movie.