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Procrastination leads to wonderful places, and for me that's "hey what if I could get rough estimates for canon heights using the ingame models?" So I did! Unfortunately, this post got long so I only included the heights of a few major characters for now. Teachers, Gym Leaders + League, and Team Star will be in separate posts!
I used imageJ / Fiji for analysis and some screenshots from MunchingOrange's playthrough of the game on youtube. I explain the process and attached all the screenshots under the cut so you can judge the legitimacy of my "math" yourself!
A quick overview of how I did this: there's a (free to use) software called Fiji made for processing images (google Fiji ImageJ and it'll be the first link). It's used in a lot of data analysis, which is mostly what I use it for, but it has some fun features to play around with too. (if people want a tutorial lmk I'd be happy to write one up). The most important part for our purposes is the measure function-- if you draw a line on an image, it will tell you how long that line is in pixels. This line can be straight, curved, angled in any direction, or even multi-segmented, making it pretty good for comparing things. Then all I had to do was get images of characters standing next to each other-- from there I could transitive property my way to the height of every character in the game!
First step was getting a good basis for comparison-- I can easily get ratios of character heights but without at least one confirmed height I can't translate it into real world metrics. Since the characters themselves don't have canon heights, it had to be a pokemon. This introduced another problem, which is that in SV, pokemon are varying sizes within a species, so I can't count on the overworld models to work. Plus, some of them aren't even accurate!
However, there was one pokemon I could compare to the protagonist pretty easily whose height was a little less skeptical: the main legendary (koraidon in my case). A few cursory comparisons led me to guess that Koraidon's 8'2" "height" is measured from head to toe while standing in apex form. Anything else gives heights of characters that make zero real world sense so this is what I went with in the end. Thus we get the screenshot that starts it all!
Koraidon's head is bowed, but this was the closest I could get so I guesstimated that the top of the blue ridges was about where Koraidon's head would be. Knowing that Koraidon is 8'2", we get the following heights:
Thus far it looks like we're on the right track! Assuming the protagonist is 14 and Nemona is 16/17, these heights seem pretty normal. Knowing the protagonist's height gives us the ability to find out most other characters, so we're off to a good start!
(side note: the calculation I used to turn pixels into inches was pixels1 / inch1 = pixels2 / inch2. The pixels we can get from the lines on the images, and the inches we know from Koraidon's pokedex entry, so we just solve for inch2)
Next up is Clavell (mostly because he showed up first). Something interesting is that he's actually slightly shorter than Nemona, you can see it in the first cutscene in front of Nemona's house (i can add a screenshot in the reblogs / replies but didn't want to clog the post with another image). From this image, we can find:
(The math actually says Arven is 5'7.5", but I'm not bothering with decimals. This makes him sliiiiiiightly taller than Clavell)
Penny is seen angled from the protagonist in her intro scenes, so I skipped all the way to her boss battle to find a good screenshot. To my surprise, she's actually slightly taller than the protagonist!
(Side note 2: Characters are measured from their heels to the crown of their head-- if they have really big hair it doesn't count as part of their height)
Last one in this round is the professor (Sada in my case, as I'm using a Scarlet playthrough for screenshots). I'm gonna assume that the AI and Professor are the same height for this
Turo forced me to use a different playthrough to grab a screenshot, which used a female protagonist. I'm fairly positive that the male and female protagonist models are the exact same height (if not the exact same model) so I don't think there's any snags with this, but if anyone knows otherwise lmk. Btw, I used the playthrough by Rubhen925 for this screenshot!
This post is getting absurdly long, so I'm going to make separate posts for the League / Gym Leaders, Team Star, and the teachers! Hope you've enjoyed, and if there's any specific trainer class or other character you wanna know the height of just lmk :) I also plan on making a post of some more silly measurements (like the exact dimensions of Penny's backpack, the proportion of Geeta's height that's just her legs, the size of Arven's camping bag and whether or not his friends could reasonably curl up inside, etc)
Yippee-kay-yay. This was originally going to be part of the original post, but turns out these kids cannot and will not stand in a straight line so it took awhile. The jokes write themselves, so now they get their own post
The biggest issue I had with Team Star is that they rarely interact with characters other than themselves and have a tendency to stand in blobs or on top of things. The perspective makes it impossible to compare heights, so I had to do a lot of flipping through screenshots to make sure characters were the same distance from the camera. The first one, and the missing link between Team Star and the rest of the cast, was this screenshot where I could compare Penny and Giacomo
DJ Vice is a lot taller than I initially expected. Go Italian boy go
Initially, I thought this screenshot would be more useful, but unfortunately three of the five are standing farther back, so I can only use this to compare Eri and Giacomo or Ortega and Mela. Since I only know Giacomo atm, Eri it is!
... This felt like it wasn't correct, so I ended up cross-checking it with other photos and got the same number three separate times. Eri truly and really is that big. I fully support Eri's new NBA career
This screenshot is actually helpful for both Atticus and Ortega, letting us kill two birds with one stone. I need to compare Eri to Atticus and Giacomo to Ortega because of the camera distance.
Ortega feels super short, but I actually cross-checked his height with Atticus in the first photo in this post and it gave the same height. He's itty bitty. Teeny tiny!! Eri can carry him around like a little purse dog
Now we're back to this photo to get Mela's height. I'm not including her ahoge thingy bc that adds like 2 inches
I'm actually floored by how wild their heights are. Team Star boasts the shortest and tallest characters in the game!
Bonus fun facts:
- Mela's boots are 2'10"
- Clive's pompadour is 1'5" long and 9" tall
- Penny's backpack dimensions: The main body is 18" in height, but the width is dependent on the segment. The head is 11" at the thickest point, while the body is 12.5" at the thickest point. The ears are 8" long, 3" wide at the widest point, and an inch thick. The tail is 14.5" long, 9" wide. The black parts of the ears are 2" wide and 6" in height, the eyes are 2.7" in height and 1" in width. Finally the neck ruff is 7" tall and 16.6" wide
I got this super helpful image from @prince-kallisto that has all the gym leaders lined up, so I can finally add the gym leaders to this! I'm not entirely sure these are to scale bc they're not models but we do what we can. Thanks again prince!
We already know Larry's height, so we can just crossreference him with all the others, which makes this quick and easy!
Just like last time, all the screenshots I used and the process are under the cut! Reminder these are approximations bc of camera distances, human error, etc, so take them with a grain of salt
Miriam: 5'9" with heels, 5'4" without
Jacq: 5'7"
Dendra: 5'8"
Raifort: 6'0"
Saguaro: 6'2"
Salvatore: 6'3"
Tyme: 5'4"
Note that this is in heels. Without the heels she's only 330 pixels which translates to 5'4". No wonder her trainer card shows her tripping, those are some tall pumps!
That's starting to look like the default height of dudes in this game! At this point, the playthroughs got less helpful so I just switched to screenshotting things on my own switch.
Capping it off with the professor who would probably enjoy this little exercise in measurements the most! She's shorter than I thought in comparison to the other teachers, but they're quite tall
So turns out this game just hates the gym leaders, because you can't interact with them except during the initial battles and rematches and in both of those the camera never lets them stand next to the protagonist without some kinda funky angle. I went through so many videos and couldn't get a single screenshot that worked for comparison, so tragically no gym leader heights :( if anyone has screenshots they think will work, through, send em my way! In the meantime, League Time
Larry is actually the only one I could find a good picture of standing next to the protagonist at the same distance from the camera, so he gets first dibs. An important thing to note is that Larry is likely taller than this when standing up straight-- he has a bit of a slouch!
Unfortunately I couldn't find any good pictures for Poppy-- the protagonist crouches to talk to her which makes things less precise-- or Rika, who always seems to be at a different distance from the camera than the protagonist. I ended up using this picture for both Rika and Poppy, which wasn't great because of the angle but seems close enough. I cross-checked Rika with a different photo that does have the protagonist and got the same height, so imo it works out. I used Hassel as the point of comparison because Larry was too close to the camera and was giving heights that were biologically impossible for Poppy
Some of My Favorite Ways to Describe a Character Who’s Sick
pressing their forehead into something cool or comfortable (this could be an array of things. the table, the floor, someones leather jacket, their water bottle, the countertop)
warm to the touch, or heat radiating from them (could be noticed if someone’s gauging their temperature with their hands, hugging them, or just generally touching them)
leaning into people’s touch, or just spontaneously leaning on them (like pressing into their hand when someone’s checking their temp, or just, like, literally walking up and laying their head on them from fatigue. bonus points if the character is usually feral and the other is scared to engage™︎)
falling asleep all over the place (at the dinner table, on their homework, in the car, in the bathroom — just being so exhausted from doing literally nothing)
being overly emotional (crying over things that don’t usually bother them, like their siblings arguing, or their homework, or literally just nothing)
stumbling/careening/staggering into things (the wall, furniture, other people. there is no coordination in feverish brains. running into chairs, hitting the door, falling over the couch, anything and everything)
slurring their words (could be from fatigue or pain. connecting words that shouldn’t be connected, murdering all of their conversations with the excessive use of ‘mm’ and ‘nn’ in place of words) (this is my favorite thing ever)
being overly touchy (basically like a sick kid — just hold them, please. do that thing where you brush their hair back out of their face, or rub circles on their back, or snuggle them. they won’t care. bonus points if this is also the feral character and they refuse to believe it afterwards)
being extremely resistant to touch (flinching away when they usually don’t so someone can’t feel the fever, not letting themselves be touched because they’re so tired they just know they’ll be putty in their hands if they do)
growing aggressive or being extremely rude (it’s a defense mechanism — they feel vulnerable and are afraid of being manipulated or deceived while they’re ill)
whimpering/whining/groaning (this was in my “characters in pain” post but it’s so good that i’m putting it here too. this shite is gold, especially if it’s just an involuntary reaction to their symptoms)
having nightmares caused by a fever and/or delirium (crying and murmuring in their sleep, or being awake but completely out of it and convinced they’re somewhere else)
making themselves as small as possible (curling up into a ball everywhere they lay, hunching over slightly when standing, wrapping their arms around themselves)
TW for vomiting below cut !!
sleeping in the bathroom floor because they keep getting sick over and over (bonus if someone finds them all weak and pitiful. bonus bonus if they find them there in the morning only to learn they’ve been there all night)
using their hands/other body parts to clamp over their mouth so nothing can come out (like pulling their knees up to their chest and using that, or like, their arm, y’know) (~maccreadysbaby who has emetophobia suddenly gets very awkward about this post~) (~yes i have a phobia of puke and still write this happening to my characters, shut up~) (~it’s about the hurt/comfort okay~)
sympathy pukers (people who aren’t the sick ones but get nauseous/vomit when they see someone else throw up) (~aka me~) (~okay I’m done now~)
dry heaving (it’s gross, but good for making your characters absolutely freaking miserable)
rolling/churning/spinning/cramping/ lurching and all those awesome words that describe what stomachs do when sick (i hate these words with a deep, fiery passion. but they’re good for writing or whatever)
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Caretaker spots whumpee in moment of genuine happiness (like a real laugh or doing something carefree like humming a tune to themself) and instantly fills with emotion. Whumpee, perplexed by caretaker's expression, thinks they did something wrong and stops, apologizing to caretaker who quickly tries to explain:
"No, no, you don't have to stop! It's just, you haven't since... I'm glad."
One thing I can literally never get enough of in fic is personality shifts when a character is sick.
Characters who are usually pleasant and easygoing suddenly becoming irritable or snapping at their friend over something small. Characters who are normally short tempered reacting to something uncharacteristically calmly because they just don’t have the energy to get worked up.
Characters who are usually confident and attention-seeking feeling insecure and acting standoffish. Characters who are usually reserved and not into physical touch becoming oddly cuddly and affectionate.
Characters who are usually neat losing willpower and letting their space become a mess. Characters who typically don’t bother keeping things organized becoming unusually conscientious about keeping things clean and sanitized in an effort to prevent the spread of whatever they have.
This could go on forever, it’s so basic but I am so obsessed.
Want to avoid the action movie effect and make your character's injuries have realistic lasting impacts? Have a sick character you're using as hurt/comfort fodder? Everyone has tips for how to write Dramatic Intense Agony, but the smaller human details of lasting or low-level discomfort are rarely written in. Here are a few pain mannerisms I like to use as reference:
General
Continuously gritted teeth (may cause headaches or additional jaw pain over time)
Irritability, increased sensitivity to lights, sounds, etc
Repetitive movements (fidgeting, unable to sit still, slight rocking or other habitual movement to self-soothe)
Soft groaning or whimpering, when pain increases or when others aren't around
Heavier breathing, panting, may be deeper or shallower than normal
Moving less quickly, resistant to unnecessary movement
Itching in the case of healing wounds
Subconsciously hunching around the pain (eg. slumped shoulders or bad posture for gut pain)
Using a hand to steady themself when walking past walls, counters, etc (also applies to illness)
Narration-wise: may not notice the pain was there until it's gone because they got so used to it, or may not realize how bad it was until it gets better
May stop mentioning it outright to other people unless they specifically ask or the pain increases
Limb pain
Subtly leaning on surfaces whenever possible to take weight off foot/leg pain
Rubbing sore spots while thinking or resting
Wincing and switching to using other limb frequently (new/forgettable pain) or developed habit of using non dominant limb for tasks (constant/long term pain)
Propping leg up when sitting to reduce inflammation
Holding arm closer to body/moving it less
Moving differently to avoid bending joints (eg. bending at the waist instead of the knees to pick something up)
Nausea/fever/non-pain discomfort
Many of the same things as above (groaning, leaning, differences in movement)
May avoid sudden movements or turning head for nausea
Urge to press up against cold surfaces for fever
Glazed eyes, fixed stare, may take longer to process words or get their attention
Shivering, shaking, loss of fine motor control
If you have any more details that you personally use to bring characters to life in these situations, I'd love to hear them! I'm always looking for ways to make my guys suffer more write people with more realism :)
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