Ohhh Norman and Ray drawings, going back to my roots 🙂↕️
(imagine Norman talking about genocidal plans and Ray going:)

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Ohhh Norman and Ray drawings, going back to my roots 🙂↕️
(imagine Norman talking about genocidal plans and Ray going:)
I love how Norman and Ray react differently when it comes to betrayals. They feel hatred so differently which serves as a good parallel to each other.
Disclaimer: Norman and Ray don’t actually say this in canon, it’s simply what I inferred from when they felt betrayed by Isabella, Emma, and each other.
Sometimes I forget that my friends are rich af because what do you mean you just casually buy me a manga volume. WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU GIVE ME BEYOND DESTINY ARE YOU INSANE-
Reading the manga rn and CAN ROSSI STOP LOOKING STUPID??? PLEASE??????
Listening to “Married Life” while reading through chapter 180 is like killing oneself tbh. I got to the graveyard scene and it was the sad part of the song and it was such perfect timing I almost cried.
NOBODY TOLD ME CHAPTER 181 HAS ADAM HOLDING WHAT LOOKS LIKE LITTLE BUNNY
Sonju and his random ass blood bag is making me giggle I’m so sorry he looks so stupidly adorable
Sometimes I forget that my friends are rich af because what do you mean you just casually buy me a manga volume. WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU GIVE ME BEYOND DESTINY ARE YOU INSANE-
Reading the manga rn and CAN ROSSI STOP LOOKING STUPID??? PLEASE??????
Listening to “Married Life” while reading through chapter 180 is like killing oneself tbh. I got to the graveyard scene and it was the sad part of the song and it was such perfect timing I almost cried.
NOBODY TOLD ME CHAPTER 181 HAS ADAM HOLDING WHAT LOOKS LIKE LITTLE BUNNY
Sometimes I forget that my friends are rich af because what do you mean you just casually buy me a manga volume. WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU GIVE ME BEYOND DESTINY ARE YOU INSANE-
Reading the manga rn and CAN ROSSI STOP LOOKING STUPID??? PLEASE??????
Listening to “Married Life” while reading through chapter 180 is like killing oneself tbh. I got to the graveyard scene and it was the sad part of the song and it was such perfect timing I almost cried.
Sometimes I forget that my friends are rich af because what do you mean you just casually buy me a manga volume. WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU GIVE ME BEYOND DESTINY ARE YOU INSANE-
Reading the manga rn and CAN ROSSI STOP LOOKING STUPID??? PLEASE??????
Sometimes I forget that my friends are rich af because what do you mean you just casually buy me a manga volume. WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU GIVE ME BEYOND DESTINY ARE YOU INSANE-
My TPN Character Analysis Series (Part 1): Barbara
(!!MANGA SPOILERS!!)
In anime/manga, when it comes to female characters that are not your typical bubby outgoing girl, people are quick to jump to conclusions about their personality, and one of these examples is Barbara.
Most people in the TPN fandom don't like her because she's apparently "too aggressive" or was "mean to Emma when she expressed her opinion about the demons." But they don't really understand why she is the way she is.
To start this off, her behavior is rooted through her trauma. She thought she was going to get adopted with her best friend Cislo when they both came of age (I say that because the specific age of shipment for Goodwill Ridge is not confirmed) when in reality, they were both sent to Lambda, an experimental farm that was known for heavily testing and drugging children. Not only that, she was severely traumatized because of what the people in that facility did to her. They ran experiments on her, drugged her, and it eventually gave her super strength, but it doesn't erase the fact that they damaged her mind physiologically.
When Norman blew up Lambda and saved her along with other victims, she was finally experiencing what freedom felt like after spending four years of her life living in torture, and because of that, she saw Norman as a savior, a God, which is why she indebted her loyalty to him.
Now, the main thing that makes her stand out from the rest of the other characters is how outspoken she is about her feelings. She was never given a healthy outlet for her trauma, so she kills demons and eats them as a sort of coping mechanism. She wouldn't care if people are uncomfortable with it because frankly, why would she? She wants people to know what the demons did to her, even if it's in a way they don't like. She will prove her point, whether you like it or not, which explains this moment in Chapter 124
Like I said in the beginning, most people in the TPN fandom don't like her because of this specific moment in the manga, but there's a reason why she acted the way she did, and a huge reason why it's absolutely valid for her to feel this way. She had never seen anyone who felt sympathy for the kind that murdered her people, tortured her, she believes that all demons are the same because of what she went though in Lambda.
Her reaction wasn't just a "valid crashout", it was more than that. She saw Emma's hesitation and only said what she said out of assumption. She can't sympathize with the demons the same way Emma does because she saw how much the demons did to her. She wasn't saying that to be rude to her, it was because she couldn't understand why Emma, who was raised as demon food, wasn't happy to have the demons exterminated. Yes, she might have gone a bit overboard when it came to explaining her feelings, but she's not meant to be a perfect character. She's meant to be flawed, not in a bad way, but in a way that would want to make you want to understand her reason for her behavior.
Barbara, you deserve better girl. No one will mischaracterize you on my watch! 😭🫂
Look at me straight in the eyes and tell me that’s a face of someone who’s ok
# i agree with everything that’s being said in the tags but # if you are talking about THIS exact reaction she’s making when she’s saying this # they didn’t change it or anything # that’s how it was in the manga # unless i just misunderstood your comment :(( # either way emma best actress tho i wish she wouldn’t have to hide her feelings and stuff # also tpn manga spoilers but i really headcannon that this trait of emma continues to be within her after losing her memories # i feel like she’d feel really pressured to be the emma that they knew so she’d hide those struggles to not worry anybody and that’s so :’(( # i’m just assuming that she’s a completely different person but still has her traits and habits from before # i’m pretty sure everyone will accept how she is now but they would definitly struggle at first especially norman and ray # all they have to offer to each other is love support and understanding # they are a family after all :’)) # tbh i need emma angst cuz we have to be realistic about her having amnesia # okay i’m really sorry about that rant but i needed to get it out my chest hehe # i’m done bye
Oh yeah Emma makes this exact face in the manga too; the thing is, in the manga she’s alone with Sonju: I suspect Emma would never show such a scared and vulnerable side of her to the younger members of her family 🤔
#Emma being a good actress is such an important part of her character? #I don’t want to stretch it too much but like- she’s good at hiding her feelings. She does her best not to make the others worry #In the manga she came back as cheerful and energetic as always? #In fact only Ray could notice something was wrong and that’s very sweet- those two really share a special bond #Again it’s so important to her character… Emma would do anything not to make her family worry #And (renewed manga spoilers please don’t read past this if you haven’t read the manga) #It’s so important for later developments????? #She tricks almost everyone (again Ray excluded) into thinking she was fine with demons eradication #And - you knew where I was going from the start - she managed to lie to everyone about the reward and on the consequences it would have had #Once again not to make them worry?????? #Long story short naaah I don’t think that’s how Emma would act I didn’t like this change ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ #I acknowledge hiding your feelings is hard but I also know Emma is extremely good at it nonetheless #It’s also something that makes her way less naïve she may seem y'know? It’s important to her character!!! (via @just-like-playing-tag)
#Emma is genuinely terrifying#Shirai said that it would be dangerous for someone like her to exist in the real world#he’s right ya know#like looking at that manga panel makes me shiver#there are so many moments like that throughout#I mean#Ray was scary for literally five seconds and then suddenly everyone’s safer when he’s around#Norman is waaaaay scarier than Ray but not in a way that gives you chills?#like he scares my brain but not my nerves#Emma triggers my fight or flight instinct (via @esthelle-wanders)
How do you imagine the evolution of the relation between Isabella and Ray in the humans world if she wasn't killed by the demon (but just severely hurt)?
I don't have a firm outline for them beyond a certain point since there's a number of other factors that could influence their interactions, but I'm open to a variety of outcomes from authors as long as Ray's allowed to ride out the turbulent storm of emotions he has over this rather than glancing over them for some schmaltzy sitcom scenario where he forgives her at the drop of a hat and is acting chummy with her (outside of short-form lighthearted comics).
Here's what I imagine happening in the immediate aftermath of them traveling to the human world (borrowing a bit from this ask of yours for this)
whatever whatever pacing and subject focus issues re: the manga aside, there’s a whole big thing about late story isabella, how she interprets ray’s address as forgiveness, but . . . it’s maybe just more speaking to how their worst qualities are the ones that they share. not as much a “ you’re my mom and i forgive you ” as it is a “ i get it, i’m there too, it doesn’t matter anymore anyway, stop feeling sorry for yourself ” and it just. tapers off into something impersonal, something more just a person speaking to a person than a son to his mother. and then there’s emma’s big wrap-up speech about how isabella’s love &. kindness before the jailbreak arc began had been genuine, and how they all just remembered the happy things about living in grace field, and she’s speaking on behalf of all the kids. but that speech doesn’t apply to ray, like at all at all. as near to the present as ayshe’s inclusion, and the visions at the seven walls, ray isn’t at peace with isabella. he doesn’t remember only the happy times , because the happy times for him only lasted for as long as he’d been willing to pretend he didn’t know about the farms.
and speaking of all that, it’s crazy how ray rlly kinda invoked his own mistreatment when he robbed isabella of that easy blissful delusion, just off the basis that he happened to retain more memories than what was normal &. decided that he loved emma and norman more than he feared the consequences of laying his cards on the table, but it’s even crazier that she let him do that. she rlly stood there and let her six year old kid weaponize himself, really let that bond shift from that of a child and their protector, to one that was almost purely parasitic, transactional, &. conditional by definition.
ofc it’s all painfully logical and understandable how far into this system characters like isabella and sister krone had sunken &. how it took watching these kids do what they never could to put their own humanity back into perspective, but just……………… hhhh. it’s broken, it’s a tragic cycle, and for as much as isabella did love her kids, as nice as it would’ve been to just raise them all like a normal mother should, the backbone of her character journey &. ultimate redemption was laid out plain and clear right to ray’s face that everything, including his birth, was all just collateral damage of isabella’s desire to survive in this world as according to the demon’s rules, longer than most ever could, and find some sort of meaning to all this sacrifice in the only option that’d ever been available to cattle like them. the tragedy is that the prioritizing of her own position trumps that love of a mother more times that it ever didn’t, and that’s the mom that ray was left with.
#YEP. #conclusion did not address the messed-up human cesspool that is most of these character’s psyches #it didn’t need to be angsty. it needed to be honest. #it needed to let stuff be messy if it wasn’t going to address them #but it tried to make everything shiny and it didn’t work #regardless the ray-isabella dynamic is excellent and deserved so much more time. #like several volumes of time (via @esthelle18)
Isabella is such an unintentionally funny character because she’s just as aware of all of this as Ray is, and she also knows Ray knows the secret of the house. Maybe not entirely how he came to find out about it and how long he’s known, but she at least knows that he’s known since he was six years old. This woman is so spiteful that she was going to send off her biological son via systemic medical rape that she was forced to carry to term as a special offering to The One knowing that, since he was depressed because of everything that was going on beneath the veneer of Grace Field with his only respite being his two best friends, his brain was going to taste fucking terrible. Killing multiple birds with one stone.
@punching-unicorns Hmm! I continue to debate how much of her maintaining her deal with Ray was strictly for pragmatic reasons and how much was due to wanting to keep him close out of some painfully complicated mess of emotions that was constantly oscillating between a tainted affection and spiteful hatred. Any time she would find herself falling into the former, forgetting the circumstances of their relationship, him being the living, breathing reminder of one of the worst things HQ forced her to endure would resurface and how they chose to put him in her plant as if to silently mock her and unknowingly rub in how pitiful the life of a Mom would always be under this system. To openly love him would be one step further in giving in than she’d already done by accepting the Mom position and loving all the other cattle children she raised for slaughter, and she hated to give that much more of herself than she already had when she wasn’t aware of his origins. So she would dutifully do what was tasked of her, but on her terms, as petty as they were.
And once Ray was gone hopefully she could finally put these turbulent feelings to rest.
Deep down, she probably knew the significance of this would largely go unrealized by those she intended to get back at, and yet when one is forced to live such a routine, mundane life under the thumb of such a system, knowing there are humans out there who live lives freely without having to make any similar sacrifices, it eats at a person. So she took it out on the only other person in the house who had an inkling of the true hell they lived in. Never directly in the form of physical abuse or boorish spoken threats because the former would be counterproductive and the latter lacked the perceived elegance she’d cultivated about herself, but in the form of emotional neglect by withholding affection and regularly keeping him off-kilter with the choice of words she did use. Not constantly, because him being perpetually fearful would render his services useless, but enough to keep him on his toes while still lulling him into some semblance of security to explain his confidence in his exchange with Norman when it’s revealed he’s the traitor.
And then in a case of bitter irony, Ray’s retaliatory act of spite was threefold in its pettiness:
to Emma he verbally confirms he intends to deprive the demons of the feast they waited twelve years for
to Isabella the caretaker who sacrificed her charges so that she could live, he silently denies the means of prolonging her pitiful life
to Isabella his mother he proves that he’s better than her, that he isn’t afraid to die because dying as a human is better than whatever pathetic existence she had carved out for herself, ideally forcing her to look at him one last time with the same look of terror she had on her face the day she realized their biological connection
These are what I think he’d focus on in his moments of anger over the years, though he’d still primarily be guided by a selfless love for Emma and Norman. It’s a misplaced, manic bravado he’d whipped himself into that night, thinking his death would be “the best way” to both ensure the survival of his last most precious person in the world and atone for all the siblings he did nothing to save, but this is the headspace he’s in after a lifetime under such an oppressive existence.
What's your thoughts on Ray and Norman's conversation after the spy reveal, where Ray says Norman should've discarded him and Norman says he would've but Emma convinced him otherwise? Was Norman really going to do that? (sorry if you've already talked about it but I missed;;)
You're good! I talked about the framing of the end of the scene here forever ago in internet time, touch on it here as an add-on to a post regarding the false belief there was a rivalry founded on the basis of a classic love triangle inextricably integrated into the core of the narrative (i.e., Norman and Ray actually dislike each other because they're both vying for Emma's romantic affection), and a brief summary of those feelings in this paragraph from this post, so my thoughts on it are kind of scattered about lol
Ray knows Norman, knows his sense of rigid morality well enough to account for him discovering his alliance with Isabella and using that to his advantage, to further push Norman away so he’ll be more comfortable with using him (he even chides Norman for not keeping his original plan to do this a secret) and so his death will hurt him and Emma less. And for roughly the entire back half of October 2045, Norman did genuinely hate Ray for his betrayal in the same way he hated Isabella, his reaction so visceral at being deceived and hurt by people he had loved all his life. He would have been willing to sacrifice Ray if not for intervention from Emma, which opened him up to directly confronting Ray and, in turn, led him to discover Ray’s true motives. He was so humbled and taken aback by the depths of Ray’s love and loyalty he returned to his original categorization of him: a dear friend who needed to be saved from his intended fate in their cruel world. Even if saving him came at the cost of his own life; even if he desperately wanted to live.
So I do believe Norman would have done it given the circumstances, and that Ray was banking on him doing so if Norman suspected him of being the traitor (and from Ray's perspective, this was the more likely outcome because of how much stock he puts in Norman's intelligence).
It fits with Ray's meticulous planning, Norman's overall morality when left on his own at this point in his life plus his pride and ruthlessness, and the series' themes of redemption/second chances for those who genuinely work toward change and the positive influence of friendship/solidarity over isolation.
mustve taken up ruthlessness from her
i just realized that there are absolutely zero pictures of yugo, lucas, conny, isabella, and all the other kids that died in gracefield/B06-32. they can only rely on memory alone and some day they will forget what their voices sound like/what they look like and now im crying
#this is why I hc Yvette to be a portrait artist once she grows up #So that even if there aren’t any photographs of a person she loves they’re at least immortalized through her art #or at least that’s my coping mechanism T-T (via @s8fingracefield) #I'm a firm believer of Yvette drawing them perfectly and somewhat capturing their personality as her abilities develop #Isabella's soft smile. maybe a frown you couldn't see to often #her with her hair let down after tugging the babies in #Yuugo in the morning looking like he had a fight with a bloodthirsty demon but no. it was just the clock #him drinking tea and being in thoughts #eating cookies with Lucas #Lucas explaining smth. reading quietly or taking care of the scars of his lost limbs #all those little moments even Ray didn't see (via @officersnickers)
The shared artist Yvette recreating portraits from memory headcanons…🤝(I also like Ray doing this too)
#I love the idea where Yvette notices Don taking a sheet of her sketchbook sometimes to draw Little Bunny w/ pigtails whenever Don misses her #so in turn she tries her best to sketch Conny from her memory but since it’s her first serious portrait she has such a hard time drawing her #Also she doesn’t have the clearest memory of her so with every feature that doesn’t look like Conny she erases it in frustration because… #“No no no no! That’s not what Conny looks like! Her eyes are more downturned than that! Her smile is brighter than that!” #She cries in frustration because she regrets not drawing any of her siblings before they left the house and died to a demon. So many regrets #Everyone notices her change in mood and physical isolation so they try to comfort her by asking what’s wrong and being goofy to lighten mood #then they realized what she’s crying about and like a row of dominoes falling down they cry. They finally cry together for who they lost. #This happens in the bunker btw. Yuugo had half the mind to bully them while they’re crying but he also relates and understands the guilt soo #he just avoids them and stays in that one room with the word “Poachers” in it #Anyway Don is bawling his eyes out and does little critiques but in his own big bro way (teasing) #Ray was (forced to be) of big help due to his clear memory of Conny. It was hard for him to talk about her because emotional repression #but they made it work! Had a mental breakdown halfway through but everyone got to open up one way or another thanks to Yvette!!!! #from then on Yvette would make portraits of everyone she remembers knowing dead or alive #that includes Isabella Krone Yuugo and Lucas (even Norman since she thought he died) #Oh speaking of Yvette and Norman she would cry if she realizes that Norman wrote his “last words” in HER paper #does she know it or does she not? Either way I cried about that once in the middle of the night #In any case while their faces may still be immortalized through this hc their voices will inevitably be forgotten… which breaks my heart sm (via @s8fingracefield)
And memory keeper Ray headcanons magnified by the whole Grace Field group joining in…these are the things we were robbed of during the multiple timeskips… (and the doubled-edged sword that comes with this for Emma, getting to learn these memories alongside the others but not remembering the foundations on which they were formed)
the trio?
the ultimate kabedon
Ray’s perspective lmao