sakura :3

here for elriel and literally nothing else <3

[sakurakittypeach]

So you know how the other FMCs of SJM's stories have middle names?

Aelin Ashryver Whitethorn-Galathynius

Bryce Adelaide Quinlan

I was just thinking, what if the Archeron sisters had middle names?

We know that the names Feyre, Elain, and Nesta are Welsh and Welsh-inspired, so I decided to follow that theme.

Feyre Seren Archeron

Nesta Adain Archeron

Elain Carys Archeron

Seren means Star

Adain means Winged

Carys means Love

I tried to make it so their middle names would loosely tie to their respective love interests. Feyre being star ties into her being Stars Eternal to Rhys' Night Triumphant, Nesta's ties to Cassian's wings, and Elain's ties into how she and Azriel chose one another's love above fate.

I also decided to keep them all the same five letter length so visually it'd be more appealing!

If anyone has any other ideas, I'd love to hear them!!! I love middle names and naming conventions :D

[sakurakittypeach]

Lucien is canonically not a PoC in the ACoTAR world . They are discriminated by species , High fae > all other fae > humans .

Lucien himself is classist and has made racist remarks towards the Illyrians .

objectively, you are correct and lucien in-universe is not part of an oppressed class. he is male and high fae, and therefore privileged.

does it mean that when he calls the illyrians "brutes" and other such derogatory terms that he is being racist in context of the world?

perhaps? in all honesty i don't think SJM's works are nuanced enough to have this discussion. the racial dynamics in her books are basic at best and really don't think (as much as i hate him) SJM intended lucien to be an explicitly racist character.

i do think that these scenes were included to show 2 things.

1. the wider perception of the NC and illyrians is negative and the rest of prythian is fearful of them, including lucien.

2. lucien is made insecure by the NC and illyrians and lashes out because of it.

lucien is a weird character to me because for as much as people say rhys is morally grey, he's actually chaotic good. lucien on the other hand is a truer example of moral greyness because at the end of it all he is ultimately self serving.

the best example i can give of this is lucien telling feyre to suck it up when she's being abused by tamlin, but ultimately escaping with her when it's presented as a better option for him. do you see how morals didn't play into that decision for him? that's moral greyness and that's why i really dislike him.

[sakurakittypeach]

I love you

i love u too bbg :3

[sakurakittypeach]

some of the folk in this fandom treat red-headed people as if they're as oppressed as POC and that has never sat right w me personally...

[endlessvoid319]

Holly is a Gwynriel so she doesn’t mind what Yaz did. Leave her alone. Ewriels are always crying about Yaz. Obsessed?

Oh did Holly tell you that? 🤣

Maybe instead of defending Yaz for doing something disrespectful, you should try calling out shitty behavior for once.

I don’t have high hopes though because look how your side handled Katie.

[lady-surieldown]

I better not see bitches who are erasing Elain from fanart, saying they suddenly like her after October because "Sarah is a good writer and convinced you".

She already is and she already wrote a great Elain. You're the one beefing with the Archerons before they even get books.

Y'all can stay over there. Disrespectful clowns.

[endlessvoid319]

“I don’t play about real artists and designers.”

Okay then why did you erase part of an artist’s work? 🤔

Oh right because the entire art piece doesn’t fit your narrative does it?

This is disrespectful to artists. Don’t paint over or alter art people.

EDIT: Here is the entire art piece

Credit: hollyberryarts

[bolinhoelriel]

Gwynriels don't understand that if Gwynnifer was Azriel's mate, he would still question the Cauldron... in HER FACE.

"But why her? Why not Elain? Why it has to be her sister's friend? Why was I given to her but not the third sister?"

After years, Azriel developed feelings for Elain and helped her to overcome her sadness and depression by being the softest gentleman with her, taking her to garden walks, being a quiet company for her, listening to her talking about gardening and baking, and much more instead of looking for his """mate""" who had the worst trauma and was in the most vulnerable state of her life and visiting her in the library to see if she was okay (even 'spying') or building a friendship with her.

And then, when Azriel was going to train the Valkyries in ACOSF, they would already have all that development we readers didn't know and would show through the book, and there would already be that tension between them. Meanwhile, they have absolutely nothing.

He didn't look for her after she was rescued, he didn't want a friendship with her and doesn't consider her a friend, he doesn't reach out to train her privately or offer to train together, and on top of that, in the bonus he left her alone on the freezing night, didn't want to spend the whole night with her (like he did with Elain) and didn't offer to escort her back to the safety of the library after she finished her training.

And then he tells Clotho to give Gwynnie or any of the priestesses the necklace he gifted to the woman he wants to kneel so bad to taste her sweet jasmine flower. It's like the situation where someone doesn't want something anymore because it has now bad memories, so they give it to someone they know but don't spend time with them and say "give it to anyone who you know will like it, I just don't want it anymore" and then they leave like 'I don't give a fuck who gets it, just be someone who is not my friend'. Like… he had all that feeling of gifting Elain the necklace HIMSELF and putting it on HER, and with Gwynnifer in the bonus it's like "yeah, give it to her, or anyone there, thanks Clotho, bye".

Meanwhile through the book we know he worries about Elain, he cares about Elain, feels sick of Elucien's bond, has tension with Elain, almost kissed Elain, and every night he goes to bed with his mind on Elain.

That's a big fucking L.

They should just accept.

[flawlesssbee]

I hate that some of you act like Elain and Azriel suddenly became a thing after Nessian.

NO. I DARE SAY ELRIEL WAS THERE BEFORE.

They have been right there since Acomaf. It’s been sitting on the page for the last four books. For a damn decade at this point.

The only thing that stopped Elriel from being the second couple was Lucien blurting out, “You’re my mate” to a traumatized Elain the literal second poor girl came out of the cauldron.

Elriel’s dynamic was already being built.

While Cassian was busy glaring at the sisters and judging them over Feyre, Azriel was reciting poetry to Elain, paying attention to her, smiling at this human girl he’d literally just met and empathizing with her (which earned him a glare from Cas btw) (which Az ignored and smiled at Elain again)

So when people go, “Ugh, 3 sisters / 3 brothers is so predictable and boring,” I just have to laughhh.

Would you say that if Elriel had become the second couple and Nessian had been the third? Or is it only “too predictable and boring” because you guys don’t like Elain?

DO WHATEVER YOU DO BUT DO NOT PRETEND ELRIEL WAS NOT T H E R E FOR A DECADE.

We are not trying to make up a ship for the next book. THEY WERE THERE. And not just in the BC

Also yall want us to believe ending up with your fated mate is the “less predictable” path in a SJM book? Please ugh.

[lady-surieldown]

"Elriels don't care about Elain's choice they just want her with Azriel"

So...the man she chose? She chose to kiss, to buy gifts for, to talk for hours to, the man whose hands she chose to call his beautiful, the man she chose to spend time in the garden with?

Are you not seeing the pattern here? Can you tell me one moment she chose to do something that made her closer to Lucien?

You can't.

That's why all you can do is make up bullshit scenarios like "she buys Lucien gifts she doesn't give" or "she kept the coat he gave her". Because you don't see that on page because that NEVER HAPPENED.

It doesn't matter how much you try to twist a narrative. You'll never be able to make Elriels anti-choice when we've been the only ones advocating for Elain to choose for herself, for her agency and free will, and that just happens to be Azriel. We ship her with him because that's what SJM wrote, meanwhile you losers are left daydreaming about all the things Sarah could've written for your ship but she didn't.

We don't have to "hope" for anything. We have the books.

[merymoonbeam]

Sarah : 3x3 symmetry

Elriels : 3 sisters 3 brothers. 3 girl groups for sisters.

Antis: 2 sisters 2 brothers and 2 redheads. 3 girl group for 2 sisters and for the third sister 2 girls and a human man. 3x3 for cassian azriel and mor as brothers and valkyries as sisters.

[livywoohoo]

One of my favorite aspects of Azriel’s character is the potential to explore a Hidden Heir trope.

[merymoonbeam]

It was 💙🩷 for covers...now it is suddenly...💜💚

SURE. WHY NOT...What statement they stuck with it in the 5 year we have left behind.... 🥱🥱

[amethystblooms]

light and dark is elain and azriel.

light and dark is elain and azriel.

light and dark is elain and azriel.

light and dark is elain and azriel.

light and dark is elain and azriel.

light and dark is elain and azriel.

light and dark is elain and azriel.

[nyxreads]

Gw*nriels being brave talking about wanting to lecture Elriels about true love when what they have is a SECOND HAND GIFT where he's just so desperate to get rid of it + him regretting not being able to change course when he found Gw*n + pure training with all other priestesses.

Sorry, you'll never have the Truth-teller scene, the rescue scene, Azriel always reaching out to Elain, Azriel questioning his religion, Azriel staying away because the thought of Elain not being his mate hurts, Azriel spending the longest night of the year with Elain, Azriel being a poet because of Elain, Azriel always finding a way to be with Elain, Azriel risking his life for Elain, Azriel being in his joyous state because of Elain, Azriel desiring and adoring Elain....

Y'all sit down, we're actually good especially with our reading comprehension.

Ps: the fact that all they could focus is "lust" makes me believe they only read acosf. And where is this behavior around Nessian? Those two are literally fubu

[nikethestatue]

I think the main difference between Gwynriels and Elriels is that Gwynriels are actively and wholeheartedly want Elain to end up with Tamlin, who abused her sister, or Koschei, who imprisons women on his island. (Note how it's never even Eris, who they view as 'positive'. No, it's Tamlin or Koschei)

Elriels, on the other hand, pair Gwyn with Tarquin. Or Mor/Emerie. Or with Balthazar. Kind, honest, steadfast, honorable characters.

Wonder why that is.

[echotzzz]

“Give Elain to Tamlin. I want her to leave Az and Lucien alone”

This is one of the most evil and horrible things you could ever said abt a woman even if she’s fictional.

Is because you know Tamlin is an abuser. Thats why you want her to go to him.

I dunno guys, wishing a woman end up with an abuser do tell something abt how you think as a person. Wishing a woman misery in the hands of a man is a thing id never wish to my enemy.

yall can hide under the “but she’s not real” umbrella all u want but the fact your mind go to that direction when thinking abt a woman is so frightening.