I just think that if you can bully your own people off tumblr for sharing an opinion Elriels agree with, you can bully off the MAGA gwynriel calling Rhysand a sex worker

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I just think that if you can bully your own people off tumblr for sharing an opinion Elriels agree with, you can bully off the MAGA gwynriel calling Rhysand a sex worker
Azriel doesn't willingly seek anyone out except for Elain.
Azriel. Does. NOT. Willingly. Seek. Anyone. Out. Except. For. Elain.
He does not seek out Mor.
He does not seek out Gwyn.
He does not seek out Bryce.
Any priestesses. Amren. He doesn't seek out Feyre. Or Nesta.
Only Elain. Where he literally TAKES HER BY THE HAND and basically says, You are coming with me. Because I WANT TO BE WITH YOU.
He flies with her (without her asking). He goes on a suicidal rescue mission for her. He takes her hand and puts Truth-Teller in it. He beats everyone, including his High Lady, to wish Elain a Happy Solstice. He looks out the windows in search of Elain.
The difference between 'sit, I'll take care of it' and 'It was too late to bank without appearing like he was running, ' is pretty startling.
Twist this as one may, the fact remains the same. Azriel is only interested in Elain.
"This book needs to move on from the main characters" is perhaps one of the funniest claims I have ever heard in my life
"Azriel and Elain sneaking a little midnight snack."
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"What if he's written mine on my upper thigh only in my mind?"
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Here’s the truth about the big Gwynriels who are now up in arms about being lumped in with or blamed for Katie:
These people LOVE to pretend to be nice on their public IG accounts. It’s all “support artists” and “let’s empower other women” and “fandom should be fun” and various other performative platitudes.
They would never want to publicly get their hands dirty.
But you know why they loved Katie? Because she was willing to loudly and publicly go after Elriels in the nastiest possible terms, leaving them to sit quietly on the sidelines and enjoy watching Elriels get bullied, all the while still pretending to be nice people.
She did their dirty work for them and they loved it.
The only—literally ONLY—reason they are speaking up now is because it makes them look bad.
GAs and ELs didn’t catch the “spark” argument for months before one of them brought that theory up and now they use it as if it has always been a confirmation of their ship and the most important thing SJM has ever said, as well as the only thing that can confirm an endgame. Where was that vital information all this time? How can someone be so gullible that they read one post and automatically assume it’s the truth? It gives me whiplash to engage in a “debate” (more like a one-sided conversation but anyway) and suddenly all of their replies and arguments are about this when it had never been mentioned before lol.
are we trying to mislead people who haven’t actually listened to the call her daddy podcast, or am i missing something? because some of the things i keep seeing people claim… aren’t what sjm said. And I don’t mean just from one side, i think every ship has done this at some point.
it’s one thing to interpret her words. it’s another to paraphrase them in a way that changes what was actually being said.… like…guys… i’m trying not to let my ship preference bias me here, but i don’t think sjm mentioning the ✨spark✨ on the podcast is the huge gotcha some people are making it out to be.
at least from the context and the way she talked about it, it sounded like she was referring to the chemistry or attraction between two characters. that’s all. she was literally talking about writing the kinds of things that “turn her on”. then she goes on to explain that she’ll write two characters trying to kiss just to see if there’s chemistry or if it feels like she’s forcing them together.
anyway, to give an example, setting mating bonds aside for a second, and setting aside this now almost sacred word, if you had to describe that two characters need to have attraction, chemistry, and passion, wouldn’t you naturally use the word spark?
isn’t that just… the most intuitive word to use?
that’s why I’m hesitant to treat that single word as definitive proof of anything. It feels like a very normal way to describe romantic chemistry, not necessarily a piece of hidden lore. also, using it in every argument when you don’t know what to say… i don’t get pissed off really easily but can you have a debate without bringing this (very very vague) argument up?
but I’m also not convinced that the podcast somehow confirmed there are two different kinds of mating bonds as some elriels say. listening to that section again, it didn’t sound like she was saying there are two separate types of bonds. to me it sounded more like she was just saying that sometimes a mating bond is right for the people involved, and sometimes it isn’t.
to me when she says “when nature picks right” sounds like she’s describing the ideal version of a mating bond, as if that person is the missing piece of your soul finally falling into place. whereas when she talks about people who aren’t happy with their mate, she’s basically saying nature can get it wrong. You can still end up miserable even if a mating bond exists.
that’s why I don’t read that interview as confirming two different kinds of mating bonds. i do think people may have overanalyzed that particular quote. it could absolutely end up meaning what some people think it means, but I don’t think the interview itself made that nearly as clear as some are claiming.
one last thing, “sjm confirmed Elain thinks Lucien is hot.”..… that’s not really what she said.
she was talking about Elain’s trauma of being made. then she basically says: imagine being thrown into this completely unfamiliar world, only to have a stranger suddenly tell you that you’re mates (not her exact words but still)
her point didn’t sound like “Elain is definitely attracted to Lucien.” it sounded more like “(me Elain) i’m mated with someone i don’t know… okay he is hot but then what? what if i don’t want that? i didn’t choose it”
to me, the point of that answer was Elain’s lack of agency, not her attraction. sjm was emphasizing how bizarre and emotionally complicated that situation would be for anyone. whether the stranger is attractive or not doesn’t actually solve the problem she’s describing.
and honestly… i can’t do this anymore. 😭 every single character in this universe is described as ridiculously attractive. I genuinely don’t think ugly faeries exist in Prythian. Rhys is literally introduced as “the most beautiful man I’d ever seen,” and then later Azriel is described as “the most beautiful of the three brothers” (rip Cassian i guess). anyway my point is… they’re all hot. sjm isn’t exactly subtle about making her characters attractive.
i think, once again, people sometimes take one sentence out of the larger context and turn it into a definitive statement that sjm wasn’t really making.
i honestly think people are reading a little too much into what she said. Some of those comments have been analyzed far beyond what was actually stated.
elain off to bother rhys (friendship headcanon)
Elain *suddenly appeared at the door of Rhys' study* : I know what you did
Rhys : what?
Elain: I know it 👁️👄👁️👍🏻
Rhys *confused*: okay
Elain: I wont tell anyone. 🫡 *Leaves*
Rhys *sweating*: what the hell did I do?
*elain did see the future... but it was 100 years later when Rhys eats the last pie and Feyre is mad*
Here’s the truth about the big Gwynriels who are now up in arms about being lumped in with or blamed for Katie:
These people LOVE to pretend to be nice on their public IG accounts. It’s all “support artists” and “let’s empower other women” and “fandom should be fun” and various other performative platitudes.
They would never want to publicly get their hands dirty.
But you know why they loved Katie? Because she was willing to loudly and publicly go after Elriels in the nastiest possible terms, leaving them to sit quietly on the sidelines and enjoy watching Elriels get bullied, all the while still pretending to be nice people.
She did their dirty work for them and they loved it.
The only—literally ONLY—reason they are speaking up now is because it makes them look bad.
My hope for whoever is reading this is that your life starts making sense and coming together. I hope the good days are right around the corner for you.
I find it so curious how Azriel ended up in Sangravah to save Gwyn, considering none of the other priestesses had survived to call for help, and Gwyn couldn't call for help because she was too busy hiding the children. And yet, Azriel just showed up there…
Just like Rhysand simply appearing behind Feyre at Calanmai and saving her from those two Fae.
Go reread the books bc it explains how they appeared there and you are a dumbass.
I think ultimately all of it boils down to fandom etiquette. Somewhere, somehow, people forgot how to behave and what's appropriate and what isn't. Fandoms have always been super volatile. This isn't new. But there were certain unspoken rules of behavior that people operated by.
You didn't stiff artists AND made up fake accounts to hound others AND pretended to be someone else AND bombarded people with nasty anons AND accused others of bullying and doxxing without evidence AND chased after artists trying to destroy their businesses by accusing them of AI usage AND argued in the comments with everyone AND fought with Bloomsbury over brackets AND facilitated the shadowbanning of Elriel Months AND celebrated when it was shadowbanned AND created all sorts of conflicting Elain Weeks out of spite AND doxxed real life people revealing their personal info
You just didn't do ALL of it in a year.
The beauty of the Elriel ship has existed since 2016… Crazy… Some can’t relate….
10 years… finally soon!!
if you act like an authority on all things SJM, then people will treat you as such.
you cannot have the benefit of this position that you yourself created and then complain when you are suffering from its ill side too.
if i started acting like the elriel cult leader, why the fuck would i then be surprised that i'm a target for gwynriels?
i'm not saying anyone deserves to be bullied but holy fuck let's use some logic here???
also, acting as if every single fandom controversy is a slight against you personally is only making you look insane. you are not the victim here, the artists are. only the artists are.
on top of that, blaming all of you bad behaviour on amorphous "hormones" is so reductive and perpetuates the stereotype that women are just slaves to their hormones.
(why are we surprised though? reductive takes about women from the CL? the same CL that supported the womb argument and insisted that gwyn isn't a virgin because of the status of her hymen?)
yeah katie was a shitbag, we all knew she was a shitbag and we tried to tell you. not only did they ignore us, they continued to support her until optics-wise it started looking bad for them!
shoutout the gwynriels calling the CL and katie out lmao (i have you guys blocked but that's a me issue, not a you issue)
elain off to bother rhys (friendship headcanon)
Elain *suddenly appeared at the door of Rhys' study* : I know what you did
Rhys : what?
Elain: I know it 👁️👄👁️👍🏻
Rhys *confused*: okay
Elain: I wont tell anyone. 🫡 *Leaves*
Rhys *sweating*: what the hell did I do?
*elain did see the future... but it was 100 years later when Rhys eats the last pie and Feyre is mad*
You guys lost when you said you wanted to keep it private