The Future is Female

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[sassysublimetastemaker]

Yo, transmen are not women.

Yeah. They are women. And female. I don't subscribe to your gender religion.

[sophiebass]

HAPPY INTERNATIONAL WOMENS DAY TO ALL YOU GODDESSES OUT THERE

[gender-critical-appspot]

http://thefederalist.com/2017/05/02/trans-activists-will-destroy-homosexual-rights/#disqus_thread

[lilacbreastedroller]

i hate sex positivity so i’m biased but, i have to wonder what role it played in creating so many asexual micro-identities. i can’t relate to sex positivity’s image of the liberated woman having Super Sexy Sex with tons of dudes every day and enjoying wild (patriarchy-approved) kinks that are Totally Empowering, so i must be demiromantic gray ace right? if sex positivity framed what you think “allosexuality” must look like, small wonder people (especially women) felt the need to splice attraction and carefully categorize themselves by how and when they felt attraction.

sex positivity offers one relationship to sex and attraction, and asserts that this is the one relationship that will liberate you (from patriarchy i guess?). and if you’re like um, no, not for me (which is very valid and probably applies to a lot of women)? that can be pretty alienating! i felt that way too, and because of it, i was considering calling myself demiheteroromantic greypansexual or somesuch thing for a time. i moved away from that identity at the same time i started to see sex positivity as very harmful to women.

sex positivity is super flawed but its pervasiveness has made it feel like that’s the norm, and if you’re not that norm you must be Something Else. when in reality that’s just a bad lens. each and every one of us has a different relationship to sex and attraction and neither sex positivity nor mogai micro-identities can of account for all that nuance.

[lilacbreastedroller]

tell me the proliferation of an “ace spectrum” has absolutely no connection to rape culture and liberal sex positivity when in a survey of over 3000 ace people, only 9% of self identifying aces are men. why? why wouldn’t more men identify as being on the ace spectrum? this is absolutely a reaction to violent sexualization against our will.

[auntiewanda]

I’ve said it before that “sex positivity” is a lot like “pro life”, it’s a weaselly term that tries to make the agenda behind it hard to argue with. “What do you have against sex!?!?” they’ll ask, while promoting that women have to subject themselves to degrading acts and an unappealing lifestyle to not be prudes. 

[areyouorhaveyoueverbeen]

@pronounrespecter

[pronounrespecter]

[lesbian-lizards]

Used to be kids were content with just making an OC or two.

[fallopian-toob]

these are all anime or harry potter names whyyyyyy 😭😭😭😭😭

[cecaeliawitch]

Some spn names too, these people need to be stuffed into more lockers

[auntiewanda]

I see some gaming names in there too. You know time was we’d just write terrible fanfiction about our super special self-insert OC Do Not Steal™ not try to live as them 24/7. 

Well. Some people did. But it was a IT’S NOT A PHASE, MOM, THIS IS WHO I AM.

[makiruz]

Sometimes I wish TERFs would discovered they’re not “female” in the traditional sense. Like one would discover she’s got XY chromosomes or some other intersex condition she never knew about, and how do you reconcile that with “males can’t become females” or whatever

I know it’s mean and petty, but I can’t help it

[1235654fg8]

Hi

[nada-mal]

I’m also a radfem with a female-specific intersex disorder, want to fight about it? Our disorders of sex development aren’t a punishment because our politics prioritize sex-based oppression. Our disorders don’t prove non-intersex males are actually female. I’m having a difficult time believing anyone is dumb enough to write this post.

[questioning-violet-deactivated2]

i like how liberal pretend they care about intersex people and their issues as long as they can use the existence of intersex people for gotcha! points when arguing about gender, but as soon as intersex people arent useful for their rhetoric theyve living jokes and karmic punishments lol

and actually there are literally thousands of intersex ‘terfs’. its almost like ….. intersex people are still male or female and are still socialized and seen as male or female and thus female people who are intersex can be and are radfems.

[fallopian-toob]

it’s really awful to see how often intersex women are used as a pawn by the libfems.

“”“not all cis women menstruate!!! uwu are xyz disordered ciz women not women anymore?? checkmate uwu”“”

all you’re doing is proving that female experiences are still consistently judged on their reproductive value or ability.

[anarcho-tolkienist-deactivated2]

How do TERFs and other scum (like Yiannopolis) who thinks tha ttrans people are just “gender confused” explain the high suicide- and depression-rate as well as the dramatically lowered average expected lifetime? Is “confusion” really that depressing?

[appropriately-inappropriate]

Well, can you explain why the suicide rate INCREASES after transition?

[anarcho-tolkienist-deactivated2]

Uhhhh, forced exposure to shitheads like you?

[appropriately-inappropriate]

But wait, hold on. That makes no sense.

The study was taken from a review of EVERY SINGLE trans person in Sweden, a country where SRS has been legal and government-funded for over thirty years, which has almost NO instances of major hate crimes against trans women and whose culture is both democratic and ‘progressive’ enough to allow for trans people to live lives of relative comfort.

Sweden is also not known for its plethora of radical feminists.

So why are their rates skyrocketing after surgery, despite living in the closest thing trans people have to a political utopia?

And furthermore, you can’t have it both ways: you say “trans people commit suicide because they can’t transition!”, and when the evidence demonstrates that transition doesn’t help mitigate the issue, then you shift the goalposts and say it’s because “people are meanies to them”.

And if that’s the case, why do the numbers INCREASE almost 20% for trans people post transition–allegedly because of transphobia, but we don’t see a similar spike in gays and lesbians who come out–DESPITE their experiencing an increase in homophobic violence and discrimination?

Something doesn’t add up.

[benyw]

My theory as to why the rate of suicide goes up:

Imagine constantly living for the next big step on the journey to womanhood - the boob job that will get you closer to the womanhood you crave, the surgery to diminish your adam’s apple to get you further away from the manhood you feel you were forced into, the genital reconstruction surgery to give you a vagina, voice softening classes, makeup class, etc. Now imagine you have had all these things and you are finally at the end of the womanhood road. Great, right? Until you’re hit with the realization that you are no closer to being a real woman than you were before even taking your first step.

Even though you and your support group constantly chant that having boobs/a vagina is not what makes a woman a woman, deep down you never really believed that (hence why you want the surgeries), but up until the last surgery - the last theoretical barrier to you being a real women - you got to live in blissful, willful ignorance. You believed you would feel different after the last step, like you would be hit with a sense of female euphoria, but now realize that you are just as unsatisfied with your life and your body as you always were, because no matter what you do it’ll all just amount to a huge and expensive waste of time - you will never be a biological female, and all the window dressing (high heels, makeup, dresses) is a lie.

*you had laser hair removal - but in reality women have facial hair, it’s just not considered socially acceptable

*you got your voice trained so you could speak softer - but some women do not speak softly, even though it is not considered socially acceptable

*you bought all the best makeup on the market and went to classes to learn how best to apply it - but some women do not wear makeup, even though they are mocked for going without

*you spent a ton of money on clothes from the women’s section - but some women wear clothes from the men’s section, preferring to be comfortable rather than comply with feminine beauty standards, something you were told was ‘un-womanly’ but here we are.

*you had a boob job - but some women have flat chests while others are having reductions to make their lives more comfortable. Both types of women are mocked by society, but they are still women.

*you get the biggest surgery of all - sex reassignment surgery - but you know that even the best surgeon in the world could never give you a real vulva/vagina/clitoris. You’ve lost a lot of sensation in your genitals, you have to constantly maintain the hole so that it doesn’t close up, and you are still no closer to feeling like a woman than you were when you journey started. 

You’ve had everything the medical, beauty, and fashion industries told you would make you a real women, but no matter how much you do you will always be a trans women, never just a woman.

Instead of helping you by keeping you grounded in reality your friends have fed you lies and fantasies that were invented to spare your feelings. Lies and fantasies that you were more than eager to swallow, because they gave you theoretical access to the womanhood you crave. Now that you have reached the end your friends don’t know what to do/say about your dissatisfaction, so they diminish your feelings by telling you that YOU are the problem, and that “you should never have expected to magically ~*~feel~*~ like a woman, and anyway, didn’t you already ‘feel’ like a woman? Isn’t that what this whole thing was about in the first place???”. You lose your friends. 

Now there is no hiding from the fact that what the evil TERFs were saying all along is true: women are adult human females, everything else tied to womanhood is meaningless social garbage. 

What have you done?

This sounds so fucking cruel and I feel awful for typing it out, but it is the truth. And when these males get smacked hard by the truth it must REALLY fucking hurt. 

[sassysublimetastemaker]

TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN

Nope. A man in a dress is not a woman. No one believes that they are real women. A lot of smoke being blown up their asses. You can repeat a lie all day long, it doesn't matter. It won't make it true. It's still a lie. TRANSWOMEN ARE FEMININE MALES. THEY ARE MEN. WHO LARP AS WOMEN. THEY ARE NOT WOMEN.

[radladiesunite]

Facts

👉Trans women are male. They were born male and they’ll die male. We will all decompose in the ground and centuries later archaeologists will find our skeletons and be able to tell if we were of the sex that produces sperm or ovum. Is that not the definition of a trans woman? someone born male who ‘identifies’ with being a woman? 

👉Acknowledging the reality of the sex you obviously are is not violence. It may hurt your feelings, but it is not violence. Being critical of gender and males defining womanhood does not make someone transphobic.

👉Lesbians are female homosexuals. You can’t come up with your own definitions for words and get pissed when people don’t use your definition. 

👉Homosexuals are people attracted to the same sex that they are.

👉Sexuality is about attraction to primary and secondary sex characteristics, not an elusive sparkly ‘feminine’ feeling that you display with sexist stereotypes, presentations, and roles. No one is sexually attracted to gender identity.

👉Saying women have vaginas is not the same this as saying women ARE vaginas. it’s a classification. If i say dogs have fur, am i ‘reducing’ them to their fur? No, i’m just pointing out one of their defining features.

👉Defining woman as anything other than female is sexist garbage.

👉Lesbians don’t have to date, have sex with, or be attracted to trans women. To berate and harass them for the natural preferences that come with their sexuality is misogynistic rape-apologism.

👉‘Cis’ women are not privileged over trans women. An equivalent sentence is ‘females are not privileged over males’

👉Sex is not a social construct. Social constructs exist only in the context of human culture and are variable. Sex is a biological reality manifested by gonads, reproductive organs, skeletal structure, secondary sex characteristics, chromosomes, etc. Humans are sexually dimorphic with .05% being intersex.

👉Socialization based on birth sex is real. It manifests as differential treatment throughout life based on sex. Socialization starts the second the doctor says ‘it’s a girl!’ and the mother gets showered in bows, dresses, Disney princess, toy kitchens and cleaning equipment, all in sparkles and shades of pink while the father is simultaneously disappointed he won’t get to play catch with his offspring and worried about boys victimizing and harassing his daughter, knowing firsthand how that plays out.

👉Gender is socially constructed. It is the roles assigned to males and females. It is ‘women wear dresses, aren’t good at math and science, have to shave and wear makeup, don’t do sports, are fragile and sensitive, are overly emotional and totally nurturing, should not be assertive or in positions of power, should have a goal to get married have kids and take their husbands name’

👉There is no such thing as brain sex. When trans women see an article saying trans women have a similar sized hippocampus as ‘cis’ women and they’ll say to themselves ’SEE!This means my made up gender identity is valid and genetic!’ when in reality the discussion section will mention that even for cis women it is a spectrum/distribution and that the results do not automatically imply that those differences are not due to brain plasticity, experience-dependent development, and socialization (half the time they’re not even studying causal factors). So you may be thinking, ‘well what ARE those differences present from birth?’. Experiments studying male and female differences from birth as displayed in children and infants show that the only cognitive differences are few and minuscule, such as higher visuospatial ability in males. And these articles never even mention some correlation to ‘gender identity’. Thats left for psychologists and social theorists, because there’s no way to empirically study the bullshit gender identity in your head when you can’t even come up with a definitive, operationally sound definition for ‘woman’

👉Bathrooms are separated by sex, not gender identity. Males do not belong in female only safe spaces, bathrooms, lockerooms, rape shelters, etc.

[thejediassassingirl]

FACT: -This is a bunch of damaging bullshit. Who the fuck gave you the right to police other’s genders?! Who the fuck gave you the right to say trans people aren’t oppressed? That’s right: no one. So shut the fuck up.

[radladiesunite]

I didn’t say trans people aren’t oppressed. I said trans women aren’t more oppressed than ‘cis’ women. i’m not policing gender, i’m saying gender is a socially constructed mechanism of patriarchy. How about instead of crying about it, you tell me exactly how i’m wrong. @thejediassassingirl

[thejediassassingirl]

Well for starters, homosexuals are attracted to the same gender, not sex. For example, lesbians are attracted to women, not vaginas.

[thejediassassingirl]

To follow that up, lesbians don’t have to date trans women, but dating trans women does not mean they aren’t lesbians.

[thejediassassingirl]

Thirdly, you refuse to take into account that trans women go to “female only” bathrooms, safe spaces, etc. because that’s where they feel safe. no trans women has said “well, i feel safe going to the men’s restroom, but i’m gonna use the women’s just for the hell of it.” no. they use the women’s restroom because they don’t feel safe in the men’s restroom, and if you try to look at their genitalia and kick them out because they don’t have “the right parts,” you’re a transphobic asshole.

[auntiewanda]

Well for starters, homosexuals are attracted to the same gender, not sex. For example, lesbians are attracted to women, not vaginas.

Incorrect. It’s right in the etymology of the word. Homo = same. Sex = SEX. Same sex attraction. It’s not hard.

How do you propose this mythical “same gender” attraction works anyway? Can you tell someone’s gender by looking at them? Are people not attracted to anyone until they ask pronouns? What about genderfluid/genderqueer people? Will someone “same gender” attracted find them attractive some days and not others? It’s nonsense. 

To follow that up, lesbians don’t have to date trans women, but dating trans women does not mean they aren’t lesbians.

If someone is opposite sex attracted they are by definition not homosexual.

Thirdly, you refuse to take into account that trans women go to “female only” bathrooms, safe spaces, etc. because that’s where they feel safe. no trans women has said “well, i feel safe going to the men’s restroom, but i’m gonna use the women’s just for the hell of it.” no. they use the women’s restroom because they don’t feel safe in the men’s restroom

So why are transwomen’s concerns of having to share restrooms and other facilities with males valid but women’s concerns aren’t? 

Transwomen are a tiny minority and yet transactivists lobby for laws that put women are risk by making it technically illegal to eject any male person from a female facility as long as he says he feels he belongs there. How is that not putting far more women in danger?

Why is the advocacy not to educate men to be more accepting of transwomen? Especially since men are, apparently, their biggest safety risk.

[spookyterf]

Love both the OP and Auntie’s perfect response.

[spencer-shayy-archive]

There’s a great deal of women who don’t feel fucking safe with transwomen in our bathrooms but to hell with us we need to get back in the kitchen anyway.

Lemme tell you something. I despise public restrooms. They’re disgusting and full of bacteria and diseases. I never feel “safe” in them, even if I’m using the women’s bathroom. So spare me the “transwomen feel safer in the women’s restroom!” bullshit. I don’t care. Of course they fucking feel better in the restroom where they have all the power and us women have to put up with it or get hit.

Transwomen in the womens restroom will NEVER make the restroom safer.

“Well for starters, homosexuals are attracted to the same gender, not sex. For example, lesbians are attracted to women, not vaginas.”

Sex isn’t just genitalia @thejediassassingirl and gender is an artificial, man-made concept that only fetishists like you are attracted to. I know that women are adult human females with their own thoughts, desires, personalities, and other traits, differentiated from the males by sex and socialization. I fall in love with women I am compatible with.

You? You’re attracted to fucking makeup and eyeliner! High heels and dresses! You value others based on how well they conform to femininity! The idea that you can take the moral high ground here is laughable! You’re fucking shallow and wouldn’t know real, healthy love if it bit you in your lesbian trending ass!

[cpljohnner]

Gender roles are socially constructed not gender itself. As for brain sex, so far there are notable differences between the brains of the two sexes and how they operate. Denying such would be dishonest.

[auntiewanda]

Gender roles are socially constructed not gender itself

Okay. Explain then, what is gender if not a social construct and where do gender roles come from? 

As for brain sex, so far there are notable differences between the brains of the two sexes and how they operate. Denying such would be dishonest.

No there aren’t.

What are considered “male” brain traits and “female” brain traits are proving to be more and more arbitrary. You have to account for slight insignificant differences due to the endocrine system and differences in structure as the result of neuroplasticity before you make a claim like that.

The fact that girls and boys are raised in distinctly different ways, encouraged and discouraged from different skills, encouraged to have different priorities can’t be ignored. 

[psup-official]

I can see both perspectives on this argument and to a certain extent both sides are valid in their own respect. However, if either side is taken too far it can result in unfortunate consequences both socially and politically. I feel that the best alternative is to just drop it and leave it alone.

Simply put: if someone regardless of being genetically, or entirely/mostly structurally anatomically male/female has gender dysphoria, decides to transition, successfully transitions, and makes an effort into appearance as is typical of societal expectations, there is no reason for politics. These are a small percentage of people that in most cases you would never be able to tell in the first place. Regardless of any petty political argument be it which bathroom used, stance of wether or not they are scientifically capable of being labeled as the other gender (this may prove to be impossible as several fields have different strict standards), or names of sexual identity, it tends to be a significant waste of time.

[auntiewanda]

Simply put: if someone regardless of being genetically, or entirely/mostly structurally anatomically male/female has gender dysphoria, decides to transition, successfully transitions, and makes an effort into appearance as is typical of societal expectations, there is no reason for politics.

Except that transition itself is a whole other ethical question. Would you enable the symptoms of any other body integrity disorder in such a way? 

Should someone with anorexia nervosa be treated with liposuction and life support because, well, their condition really makes them believe they should be very thin.

Should someone with somatoparaphrenia have their arm or leg cut off because, well, their condition really makes them believe that limb doesn’t belong on their body.

Should someone with apotemnophilia be deliberately crippled by surgeons because, well, their condition really makes them believe they’d be happier with a physical disability. 

And yet when it comes to gender dsyphoria people are happy to accept because someone doesn’t behave the “right” way for their sex then of course they shouldn’t be that sex anymore. That’s informed by the sexism and gender roles ingrained into society. And gender dysphoria could very well manifest because of those same high pressure social constructs. I think it’s irresponsible to pretend it’s somehow all unrelated.

And that’s even besides the point that gender non-conformity and transsexualism both are associated with homosexuality. And I’m not convinced many parents of “trans kids” aren’t utilizing the trans trend as a way to, well, both desex and straighten up their potentially gay kids. Couple this with the widespread insistence that lesbians need to give sexual attention to male people who assert they are women and the undercurrent of homophobia in the modern trans movement is hard to ignore.

And the fields dedicated to gender identity are wildly unregulated and the concept itself is largely undefined and unproven scientifically. Some will argue that experts recommend transition as a treatment but, well,  should someone with schizophrenia be treated with a lobotomy because that was an accepted treatment not too long ago?

As you can see this is about far more than keeping female facilities safe for women.

[nevaehtyler]

where the lie at

[memelordandsavior]

I was gonna say. Why would they assume their daughters would be into men anyways but I remembered that men will harass you whether you’re into them or not.

[whatbigotspost]

And never forget the implicit undertone of “I know how men REALLY are and what they REALLY say because I am around them when you’re not (and I either participate in the misogyny myself or at least don’t shut it down). So it’s much worse than you even know” that comes w/ dudes like that…

[auntiewanda]

And as soon as a woman expresses the exact same sentiment it becomes #notallmen and “you’re crazy”. 

[savageoppressme]

I’m not calling you a terf because you, as a lesbian, are not attracted to penises. If you don’t want to sleep with someone because you aren’t attracted to their genitals, that’s fine. You don’t have to sleep with someone if you don’t want to.

However, if you proceed to deny that trans women are women, and say that they’re just men with a lesbian fetish…then ya you’re a piece of shit terf. Don’t cry ‘misogyny’ and ‘lesbophobia’ when people call out your transphobic bullshit.

[dorkinlesbian-deactivated201803]

Why should anyone accept your definition of woman when it is circular? “A woman is someone who identifies as one”

[savageoppressme]

You don’t have to accept my definition of what a woman is, but I guess I’ll just have to accept that you’re an idiotic and hateful bigot

[dorkinlesbian-deactivated201803]

Haha why? For not accepting a circular definition I’m an idiot and a bigot?

[savageoppressme]

You’re a bigot because you hate trans women, like

Shhhh terfs are gross

[just-another-memeing-nerd]

Terfs are super gross, because you are using the opression of wlw to justify transphobia, your trying to make a community that should be untied hostile and exclusive. It’s gross! If your priority is lesbians that should include trans lesbians and the lesbians who date them

[aurorevallee-deactivated2020070]

Heterosexual males are not homosexual females. It doesn’t matter if the heterosexual male “feels” like a woman on the inside.

[just-another-memeing-nerd]

TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN

TRANS MEN ARE MEN

Both can be in a homosexual relationship with the same gender :)

[auntiewanda]

So do you believe sex and gender are the same thing?

[fluffylatias-deactivated2024020]

trans women r women trans women r women trans women r women trans women r women trans women r women trans women r women trans women r women trans women r women trans men r men trans men r men trans men r men trans men r men trans men r men trans men r men trans men r men trans men r men trans men r men trans men r men trans men r men

[radical-cavalry-love-deactivate]

*ding ding ding ding ding*

Is that the cult alarm I’m hearing?

[toppdyke]

repeating HOTDOGS ARE DOGS is just as stupid as pretending adding trans makes people transform into the opposite sex.

[honey-dippers-deactivated201907]

And hey I personally fucking hate how terfs have tried to mutate lesbian culture on this site. The other day I saw someone talking about how whenever they see a blog with the lesbian pride flag in the icon, they’re uneasy or hesitant to interact/follow because of this awful trend of trans exclusionary radfems pushing wlw pride as a front for hatred, a way to boast they’re a “real lesbian, unlike all those nasty str8 women who date trans women”. It’s such an awful tactic because whenever they repost something sapphic, something about loving women, something that should be so good and wholesome and proud, that you should never have to question whether the intentions of it are cruel, they’re doing it spitefully, they’re not saying “i love loving women” they’re saying “i only respect those who I deem to be REAL women” and they’re turning pride into a discreet statement of hate. Lesbian culture and spaces are for all lesbians, and the fact that someone showing “too much pride” is now cause for suspicion is disgusting! But make no mistake, this isn’t the fault of anyone but terfs. This isn’t lesbians and trans women being lesbophobic, I agree that it’s absolutely terrible for lesbians to see wlw pride and immediately feel suspicious, but it’s not their fault, it is the fault of the people who are trying to slip into these communities and spread their poison by putting up a front of love and pride.

Stop taking a community based on love and pride and affection and trying to turn it into your platform for hate. These wlw communities are not for you. You cannot say you love women and then turn around and dedicate your entire online presence to hating women.

[auntiewanda]

The other day I saw someone talking about how whenever they see a blog with the lesbian pride flag in the icon, they’re uneasy or hesitant to interact/follow

Gee, could that be because the SJW genderspecial community hates actual lesbians? I mean all you need to do to be called a “terf” is be female and homosexual. You know, a lesbian.

a way to boast they’re a “real lesbian, unlike all those nasty str8 women who date trans women”

Ah right but of course, you’re in favor of non-lesbians appropriating the word “lesbian” and then using it as a ✧･ﾟprogressive･ﾟ✧ excuse to call actual lesbians gross and morally wrong. 

If you’re female and attracted to the opposite sex, you’re not a lesbian. If you’re male, you’re not a lesbian. Homosexual females, actual lesbians, are a marginalized group and we don’t need our language co-opted by people who aren’t a part of that group. 

they’re doing it spitefully, they’re not saying “i love loving women” they’re saying “i only respect those who I deem to be REAL women” and they’re turning pride into a discreet statement of hate.

That’s such an entitled mode of thinking. “A female person failing to be attracted to a male person is cruel, spiteful and disrespectful!” This is how incel men think.

Lesbian culture and spaces are for all lesbians

Yes. And people who aren’t lesbians need to step off and stop calling themselves lesbians. Not female and homosexual? You’re not a lesbian.

  I agree that it’s absolutely terrible for lesbians to see wlw pride and immediately feel suspicious

Yeah I immediately get suspicious that anyone with wub wub in their profile isn’t an actual lesbian. That’s why they need the more vague term. 

Stop taking a community based on love and pride and affection and trying to turn it into your platform for hate

Stop looking at the culture that organically forms around homosexual women and thinking it’s something you’re entitled to appropriate. 

[honey-dippers-deactivated201907]

These kinds of people are the exact kind of disgusting bottom of the barrel freaks that contribute to this culture of hating lesbians. So anyway if you’re a lesbian you’re beautiful and valid and 100% lesbian no matter your parts, and same goes for your girlfriend, who is also beautiful and a lesbian (or bi or pan, hey) no matter her parts. No woman-hating terf on the internet can ever make you any less of a woman, the only one who holds that power is you.

[auntiewanda]

These kinds of people are the exact kind of disgusting bottom of the barrel freaks that contribute to this culture of hating lesbians

Translation: Lesbians are hated because lesbians are bottom of the barrel freaks who bring it on themselves. Progressive!

So anyway if you’re a lesbian you’re beautiful and valid and 100% lesbian no matter your parts

A lesbian is a homosexual woman. A woman is an adult human female. If you’re neither female nor homosexual you’re not a lesbian. Please explain why you believe otherwise.

No woman-hating terf on the internet can ever make you any less of a woman

Also define what you think a woman is, please

[dorkinlesbian-deactivated201803]

They can’t define woman in a non circular way. So anyone who can say “I am a woman” can be (unless the group disagrees) and therefore anyone can be a lesbian too.

But lesbians trying to keep the original meaning of lesbian? TERFS!

[auntiewanda]

I presume this is why @s-notgirl, didn’t answer me and decided instead to complain about someone else who blocked them. 

[honey-dippers-deactivated201907]

So have you been sitting on my blog for over 24 hours now hitting the refresh button every few minutes  because you’re that desperate to fight with someone? I don’t argue with stupid. and i decided to reply to someone i couldnt reply from directly since all they wanted to do was throw a ft and then block me 2 seconds later

so yeah, im not gonna answer you, im not gonna argue with you, you hate women and nothing in the world can change someone whos determined to be a misogynist. terf cultures built on creating arguments just to pat themselves on the back for a feeling of faux moral superiority, so you can have the last word. but no one cares dude, it means nothing

[auntiewanda]

So have you been sitting on my blog for over 24 hours now hitting the refresh button every few minutes  because you’re that desperate to fight with someone?

Or @dorkinlesbian reblogged this from me again and I looked at all the other reblogs with comments out of curiosity using that handy dandy little link in the bottom left. But, sure, have your self-absorbed fantasies if you really want.

so yeah, im not gonna answer you, im not gonna argue with you, you hate women

You have yet to provide any reason why I should adopt your viewpoint that the word “woman” involves people of the male sex.

Also it’s not hate to question dubious, contradictory and unproven claims. 

Especially when those claims are actively harmful to a marginalized demographic.

whos determined to be a misogynist

Please explain what you consider to be misogynistic about my response. 

I mean, you’re attempting to dismiss my argument without even addressing it.

terf cultures built on creating arguments just to pat themselves on the back for a feeling of faux moral superiority

You might want to look up “psychological projection”.

but no one cares dude, it means nothing

Yes I already know you think the rights of actual women and especially lesbians mean nothing given your stance.

[dorkinlesbian-deactivated201803]

What is with their idea that lesbians trying to keep the definition and community of lesbians for lesbians is “terfs” taking over?

Like saying a lesbian still means homosexual female is seen as colonizing the community and forcing identities on people or some bullshit about how lesbian somehow has stopped meaning female homosexual and should mean some undefined idea of woman aligned attracted women aligned people

[auntiewanda]

What is with their idea that lesbians trying to keep the definition and community of lesbians for lesbians is “terfs” taking over?

Because actual lesbians are now “terfs” and lesbian now means anyone but actual lesbians. Because it’s always opposite day in SJW land when you’re trying to pass off the same old regressive politics as progressive without even knowing it. 

[warmheartwitch-blog]

The queer community conditions trans identified people to expect to be treated far better than is normal for basic human interaction. That has to create an unhealthy psyche for them. Imagine going into a queer space, and being told that every problem you have is the most important problem there is, that you are the most valuable, most heroic type of human, that you have the unalienable privilege to speak before anyone else, the right to instantly silence anyone who disagrees with you. And then imagine leaving that vacuum and entering the real world, where at best you’re treated like everyone else (which is not great, especially if you’re a female) and at worst, like something inhuman. That’s jarring enough to drive someone crazy. It’s an abusive way that the queer cult keeps trans identified people stuck in the realm of extremism.

[sespursongles-deactivated201906]

That’s something I think about when I see radfem posts about how you should  “respect pronouns” irl because dysphoria is a real mental illness. It sounds nice but overlooks the fact that people with other real mental illnesses are not catered to like this. Being mindful of my words and conversation topics because of someone’s mental illness is something I would do for my friends, or relatives, but not any random stranger or vague acquaintance because that’s just not workable. If you have arachnophobia it’s reasonable to expect your friends to remember not to mention spiders around you, but not to demand that everyone you meet keep it in mind and censor themselves for your benefit. As you say, this isn’t how people are normally treated; in basic human interactions you get a basic level of concern. But people used to queer spaces come to expect the same level of concern and carefulness from everyone they meet as from people who know them and care about them (or people from their community who suffer from the same problems), and that’s just never going to happen. And even if it could (there’s already starting to be “pronoun laws” to that effect), it isn’t fair to only enforce it when it comes to trans people while everyone else is expected to just deal with their mental illness / OCD / phobias / individual difficulties and figure out how to live with it without dumping the mental weight on others.

[auntiewanda]

Not to mention the people inevitably told they are the most important voice in the room are the ones who already think they’re the most important voice in the room: narcissistic male misogynists. 

That’s how these guys are so toxic, how they’re so emboldened they’ll threaten violence and carry out violence and think they’ll still be above reproach, they’re the cock of the walk in “””queer””” spaces.

[eatshrooms]

I love that radical feminists are called violent, when it took less than 5 minutes to put this together. I’ve never seen a single radfem advocate for violence against trans people. It’s fucking terrifying knowing that this trend of hating women, wanting to hurt women is catching on.

[auntiewanda]

But it’s ✧･ﾟ: progressive :･ﾟ✧ misogyny. 

[starry-storms]

Can TERFs stop referring to their bigoted community as "lesbians"?

There are lesbians who are genuinely good people and don’t deserve to be grouped in with transphobic assholes.

[auntiewanda]

Maybe virtue signalling heterosexuals should stop calling lesbians “terfs” for being lesbians. 

[starry-storms]

“Trans exclusionary radical feminist.” This was a term coined because radical feminists didn’t want to be mistaken for transphobes. The TERF community is a community of bigots that call their transphobia feminism and make a mockery of real feminism. The lesbian community is a community of homosexual women. These terms are not interchangeable. Stop acting like they are. It gives lesbians a bad name.

[auntiewanda]

This was a term coined because radical feminists didn’t want to be mistaken for transphobes.

The term “TERF” was coined by pro-trans people, you know. It’s never been a self-identification. 

The lesbian community is a community of homosexual women.

And lo and behold the first time I was called a “terf” was for being a homosexual woman. 

These terms are not interchangeable. Stop acting like they are.

It’s SJWs who consider the only “good” lesbians to be not lesbians at all.

[did-you-know]

Source

[kleenexwoman]

I have a few copies of “Playboy” from the 1970s stashed away somewhere. One of them has a letter where a guy writes in saying, “I met this really gorgeous, sweet woman, and we were planning to get married, but she sat me down yesterday and told me that she had a sex change before she met me. Mr. Hefner, should I marry someone who used to be a man?” and the response was, “So she had a sex change, big whoop. Would you be asking this question if she’d made any other change in her life before she met you? You love the woman she is now, and that’s all that should matter. If you want kids you can adopt or something.”

[schweetheart]

I feel so conflicted right now

[oliasis]

[bannock-and-biopolitics-deactiv]

That awkward moment when Hugh Hefner is more trans-positive than most feminists of the same era. 

[destroyedforcomfort]

omg

[queer-beyond-compare]

Oh

[trans-human-ist]

Holy shit

[i-heart-hugs-deactivated2018061]

More trans-positive than many feminists in our era

[questionsicannotanswer]

Other things Hugh Hefner has expressed ‘positivity’ for:

Beastiality 

Hugh Hefner himself is sexually “fascinated” by women being raped by animals both on and off the camera:

“Then Hefner said that while he liked Deep Throat, he was more interested by the movie I’d made with a dog (forced sex by her batterer husband described on pages 105-113).

“Oh, you saw that one?” Chuck (her batterer husband) said.

 “Oh that was terrific,” Hefner said, “You know, we’ve tried that several times, tried to get a girl and a dog together, but it has never worked out.” 

“Yeah, that can be very tricky,” Chuck said, “the chick’s got to know what she’s doing.” 

“That’s something I’d like to see,” Hefner said, “I think I’ve seen every animal flick (sic) ever made but–” Then Chuck offers Linda as a “willing” participant. (Adams)

Linda Lovelace, Ordeal, specifically p. 194

Rape

Linda Marchiano (Lovelace) reported being pimped to Hefner by her abuser. Hefner sodomized her, tried to make her have intercourse with a dog. 

Bill Cosby drug of choice was Quaaludes. Hugh Hefner, Cosby’s long-term chum and owner of property where Cosby raped at least 3 women, offered the drug to Holly Madison, remarking ‘ In the 70s they used to call these pills thigh openers.’ Holly Madison, Down the Rabbit Hole: Curious Adventures and Cautionary Tales of a Former Playboy Bunny

Holly Madison’s account of being a playboy bunny references coerced and unwanted sex and finding a porn DVD labeled ‘girl and dog’. (x)

Pedophilia 

Dorothy Stratten, a Playboy centerfold…was tricked and intimidated into photo sessions by Snider, who then sold the photos and access to Dorothy herself to Hefner. Ms. Stratten said she was sexually molested by Hefner. 

Ms. Stratten was underage when she was initially pimped to Hefner. 

After her death, Hefner was made aware that Ms. Stratten had hated the pornography made of her and had hated posing for it. He responded by issuing more videotapes of Ms. Stratten posing…

(Dworkin and MacKinnon) 

Anti-Feminism

These chicks are our natural enemy…It is time we do battle with them…What I want is a devastating piece that takes the militant feminists apart. They are unalterably opposed to the romantic boy-girl society that Playboy promotes…Let’s go to it and make it a real winner. 

(Hefner; cited by Stoltenberg, ellipses his; see also Steinem)

Go ahead and keeping saying Hugh Hefner is a feminist. I’ll just be here remembering his history of animal abuse, misogyny, rape and child sex abuse. 

[cuddly-trash]

when are fake feminists gonna fuck off forever?

[pamperedpunk-deactivated2018072]

Ya’ll will drag a woman to hell for even being a tiny bit “”“”“problematic”“”“” but the second some rapey old man says or does something you agree with suddenly he’s a feminist icon…….get a grip

[appropriately-inappropriate]

Drag Chinamanda Adichie for saying trans women are trans women. Kiss a paedo’s ass because he published Laverne Cox in his fucked up magazine

Priorities 💖

[auntiewanda]

An old misogynistic sex criminal was in favor of transgender. Who’d’a’thunkit?

[capricornflakes]

the comparison of radical feminists to nazis or even to oppressors of any kind is so laughably baseless and embarrassing tbh. at WORST we are just people with different beliefs on gender and society than you. we are literally 100% harmless and have no power whatsoever to harm anyone from a sociocultural standpoint.

[auntiewanda]

Yeah well it’s the internet so…