Fully believe the fall never happened. After Fuller stated that "there are a lot of media that uses falling as a metaphor" I just know season four would reveal that shit never happened, it was Will's halluci-luci as a metaphor for surrendering to the darkness/love/Hannibal
top one most pathetic wet dog moments from mr graham: "are you praying?" to which he answers "hannibal doesn't pray" okay bitch no one asked, you are obsessed get a grip jfc
I think Will was able to transcend what Hannibal did to him in season one because when he recovered his memories from the process with Chilton, I bet he saw himself consenting to the hypnosis and was like oop, okay, never mind lol
oh go on about your day, I'll be here thinking about how Fuller intended to kill Will by making him sacrifice himself to save Hannibal and Hannibal would cry over Will's dead body because the show ALWAYS did foreshadowing and we saw that in the Patroclus and Achilles scene and you bet your fucking ass they were going to make that shit happen
I think they would've gotten Will to pretend to be Hannibal to fulfill the "he died in his place, on the battlefield wearing Achille's armour" thing. Jack would've shot Will thinking it was Hannibal or something like that. Show would end with Hannibal crying over Will's body. WHAT A CRIME
lol on a serious note I think he's a cannibal because he's the stereotypical psychopath, meaning he's not the realistic, real life psycho, but the one that most people think of when they think of psychos, which is just weirdly devoid of emotional reaction. Not emotion. Emotional REACTION. Will is so blasé about everything. I mean a dude was faceless and feeding his dogs with his own flesh and he was just "um what are you feeding my dogs" then a second later was whatevs bye
if you're still asking how Will would forgive Hannibal for everything he did and the many times he hurt Will........bby. You're failing to understand that that freak liked it
I think it’s both possible, and interesting, to read Will Graham as a man who has been getting mind-fucked by the contents of his own sexual fantasies since well before he was pushed into the orbit of an aesthetically-conscious cannibalistic serial killer.
Obviously, this is a big stretch for me to imagine, because I am a deeply sexually-normal adult who had a completely unambiguous and non-confusing response to Hellraiser (1989).
But, because I’m just very good at visualizing things that have absolutely no relevance (whatsoever) to my personal experience, I can imagine that it would be very, very overwhelming to suddenly meet a partner whose sadistic inclinations seemed to match your self-destructive and masochistic ones, and who seemed willing and able meet you on that plane.
And like… it would be terrifying. Because you don’t really want to be destroyed, right? And you’ve always been able to rely on the fact that no one else saw or reciprocated your fantasies to keep you well away from the edge. But now this person… they do seem to see it. And share it. But can you trust them not to go to far?
Can you trust your fucking self?
I would argue that Will’s weirdly orgasmic expression in the bone saw scene:
Hornier than the scene where he has literal horns.
…can be read as not only a testament to the effectiveness of whatever painkilling hypnotic is in that IV, but also to Will’s implicit trust that Hannibal would not actually go too far and kill him*; like… Will’s reaction suggests that he has faith that this is a game, and… he’s definitely into it.
I also think that Will’s hornyhorny reaction here is that to his absolutely-not-into-it response to Mason’s relating of his plan to take off Will’s face.
Like, honestly, if Hannibal had been serious about eating Will’s brain, that would have been an equally gruesome death; but whereas Will is kind of in love with Hannibal, and is aroused by exploring his weirdo fantasies with him, and, despite himself, kind of trusts the dude… with Mason, it is absolutely the opposite. Will is unambiguously repulsed by Mason, and does not for a moment trust him, and this destroys any flirting-with-the-Freudian-death-drive erotic appeal that might come from hearing about Mason’s similarly horrific plan for him**.
I think that it’s actually in this moment - during the dining-table scene at the Verger estate is the moment that Will decides to break up with Hannibal.
I think he sees Hannibal smiling across the table at Mason, and rather than interpret it as what it is (Hannibal putting on a show or bravado to try to maintain the upper hand in a very dangerous situation), Will feels the visceral gut-punch of “Oh, shit - this person does not actually understand my limits the way I thought he did. He’s not safe, and he won’t protect me, and I’ve put myself in horrible danger just like I always feared I would by trusting this part of myself with him, because look - he’s casually inviting these other parties into it, and I am absolutely NOT okay with that.”
I think that is very much what informs “I missed my dogs. I won’t miss you.”
Again, just speculating here, because I am, it must be emphasized, big and happy and very, very sexually normal.
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*I choose to interpret Hannibal’s shenanigans with the bone-saw as pure theatre, because:
1. I like it better that way. (This is the most important reason, from which all other flow.)
2. There was no goddamn way that parsley-thyme infusion was getting through the blood-brain barrier; much less in 20 minutes.
They’re playing a game, and Will knows it.
3. Dr. Used-to-be-a-Trauma-Surgeon Lecter definitely knows how to do a craniotomy, and that it not how. He’s actually pursuing the least-efficient route towards brain access - thickest part of the skull, no pilot holes - which would make sense, if you had absolutely no intention of ever actually getting in there.
4. He waited until Jack got there, and hooked Jack up to his own IV. There was no need for that. Even if he just wanted Jack to watch, the IV wasn’t necessary. My theory (which, again, primarily exists in service of point [1]) is that he was drawing out the process so that Jack would lose consciousness before he ever did any meaningful damage to Will’s head, and thus spectacularly faking Will’s death so that he could kidnap him and work on him Miriam Lass-style.
**It’s also interesting to contrast Hannibal’s plan for Will’s “death” - intimate, and based on taking away the thing he values most (his mind, and his true personhood) - with Mason’s - enacted by Mason’s creepy surgeon, and based on taking away the superficial aspect of Will’s personhood that lies in his handsome appearance (something other people seem to value far more than Will himself does). Hannibal comes to play with Will’s self-destructive fantasies from a place of knowing Will; Mason does not.
***Also all of these performance choices could equally be explained by:
A- thematic considerations (I think the show is a metaphor for a relationship where one party is struggling with comp het, and so the violence is just a representation Gay, Gay Sex), or by
B- aesthetic considerations (it is a highly stylized, and highly horny show).
Has anyone figured out the issue of needing to read a specific fic but not having the capability/energy to write it yourself? I'm about to start evoking entities here guys send help
I know everyone makes fun of that look as if he's like "die bitch" but tbh to me it's always been a pained look of "this motherfucker is in love with me" like he deserves this but I won't let it happen and he's in love with me my god fucking fuck" like he really wanted to let it happen but was like uGH FINE I guess i love you too and I'll save you
I hate it when people say Hannibal was FAKING this scene like huh?? He was using Abigail's fake death as a mask to cry about being crushingly rejected by Will, wake up!!
Will Graham driving on an empty road, it stretches ahead much like his own mind does. On a cool summer evening, he drives towards the sunset, its yellows, purples and oranges heating up his eyes and he’s young. Not in age, but in this beating cage some call a heart. He slows to a stop, glancing out the window and sees Hannibal, leaning on the balcony, gray hair catching the last remnants of sunlight. And he feels young. Laughs to himself, shaking his head. Damn, he looks good. He ruined my life and maimed my body as if I was a puppet doing time in hell and he was my torturer, but damn he looks good. And damn I wanna get on my knees.
I feel like drinking tea on Will's balcony, on a rainy, gloomy day, listening to the Twilight soundtrack with Winston by my side would cure all my problems
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I love me some boderline Will Graham, specially post fall. But let's see the criteria, shall we?
A pervasive pattern of instability of interpersonal relationships, self-image and affects, and marked impulsivity beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts. Check.
Frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment. CHECK.
A pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterised by alternating
between extremes of idealisation and devaluation. Checkity check.
Identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self. CHECKETH.
Impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging Check.
Recurrent suicidal behaviour, gestures, or threats, or self-mutilating behaviour I guess check in a way?
Affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g. intense episodic dysphoria, irritability or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days) CHECK CHECK.
Chronic feelings of emptiness Check, look at his face.
Inappropriate, intense anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g. frequent displays of temper,
constant anger, recurrent physical fights) Check
Transient, stress-related paranoid ideation or severe dissociative symptoms lol check poor bby
I feel like Hugh isn't necessarily wrong, he simply believes Will mimicked autistic traits to mask darker aspects of his personality in order to hold them back and appear more "harmless" (like oh he's just autistic poor little guy). Which in this point of view, makes a lot of sense. In a symbolic way the show could be about autism, as much as it could be about queerness and many other things considered "strange" by conventional society, but only symbolically of course. But tbh Hannibal seems a lot more autistic than Will lol.
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