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Adam Driver | SNL 1/25/20 — “Slow”
raw, untamed power… … and beyond that, something truly special.
the fallen boy stood up.
The Rise Of Ben Solo.
“There’s a moment between Kylo and Hux [actor Domhnall Gleeson], when they’re in the shuttle at the very end. Kylo gives an order, and then Hux very loudly repeats it as if everyone in the room can’t hear him. Adam just gives him this look. We came up with that on the day. It’s a little moment, but I love it. I like finding situational humor in unexpected places.” - Rian Johnson
Force Dyad: a bond formed by two spirits who remain connected forever, whether alive or dead; they will reincarnate to try and find one another in each lifetime, for all eternity. Original Poem
Ben Solo marketing
They released the comics right before the premiere which made it clear that Ben Solo did not destroyed the Jedi Temple and did not kill any jedi student. He just wanted to get home. And that certain night when Luke tried to hurt his nephew, Luke Skywalker was indeed under the influence of Palpatine.
All of these meant to prepare the audience for the “ Redemption ” and Ben Solo’s happy life…
Before JJ Abrams and his crew changed and destroyed everything. JJ Abrams and Chris T. changed, rewrote and undone everything has been set up since TFA//TLJ.
Why was this done? No, seriously, is there any reason for this apart from their being psychopaths? Is this an attempt to put all the blame on RJ? But by now anyone with a half a brain can see that TROS is deeply flawed and that its flaws have nothing to do with TLJ or RJ. What was the purpose? WHAT HAPPENED, DISNEY???
THIS!☝️ This is why I say that all this situation was sadistic, for me, for other adults, for the kids!
Adding to the tragic tale of Ben Solo….
It was established that Sidious had a thing for collecting force sensitive children (both during the clone wars era and during Rebels) and experimenting on them to turn them to the dark side. Then he used them as spies.
He targeted children…and after the Skywalkers defeated him he targeted, groomed, manipulated, abused and essentially collected Ben from inside the womb to the point if betrayal by Luke. It was revenge and tatical.
Ben was swayed to the dark side since he was a child and used against his own family, Sidious most serious threat to power.
I’m devastated
cries…. and all we had in TROS “i’ve been every voice you’ve ever heard”
it’s cruel.
And this is why I’m done with Disney Lucasfilm.
This is a narrative wound I will never recover from and never, ever forgive. It is the cruelest most horrific story I have ever heard in my entire life. Sometimes you get abused so bad you break and then you die the moment you’re finally free in your own mind.
I did want to take your hand. Ben’s hand.
STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI 2017 | dir. Rian Johnson
Kylo and his lightsaber is my sexuality
Kylo Ren in Star Wars: The Rise Of Skywalker
Kylo,Ben,Solo,Bad,Ass(Part2).
Reasons to believe that Ben is dead: -His body disappeared
Reasons to believe that Ben was transported to the World Between Worlds and is coming back: -No Force ghost -Everything with Leia and Maz: Maz said it would take all of Leia’s strength to do what she had to do next, Leia knew Ben was going to die, Leia’s body disappears at the exact same moment as Ben’s even though she died earlier, Maz smiles -The Visual Dictionary established that Exegol is linked to the World Between Worlds -The fissures on Exegol have a transportative vergence: a high concentration of the Force -Ahch-To, where Rey saw Ben’s silhouette behind the mirror, is also linked to the WBW -Rey’s Jedi texts contain information about the WBW -The voices in the Rebels WBW episode include the following: Rey saying “we’ll see each other again, I believe that.” Ben saying, “Show me grandfather and I will finish what you started.” and Maz saying “the belonging you seek is not behind you.” -Rey looking up at the stars on Exegol and hearing voices is extremely similar to Ezra being surrounded by stars and hearing voices in the WBW. Direct parallels were drawn here. -Ahsoka was one of the voices speaking to Rey even though she’s not a Force ghost. But since Exegol is connected to the WBW this makes sense. -It’s likely Palps was able to come back because of Exegol being connected to the WBW -Speaking of which, Star Wars has a habit of bringing back “dead” characters -The WBW is a collection of doorways and paths that exist between time and space. The prophesized “dyad” connects two individuals across space and time. -A dyad is something incredibly rare and powerful - it hasn’t been seen for generations. You don’t set this up just to go nowhere with it. There is crazy opportunity here for future stories with these two and what they can do with the Force. -“Stand together, die together.” “The lifeforce of your bond. A dyad in the Force. A power like life itself. Unseen for generations.” This entire speech is about the two of them together, alive or dead, and the power of life that their bond is. -The story is continuing on. Kathleen Kennedy literally said that they’re not abandoning the characters created in the most recent trilogy -The setup for the new story is obvious. Besides needing to get Ben back and him and Rey being a dyad, we have Finn being Force sensitive, something he kept wanting to tell Rey but never got around to doing. We have Rey with a new lightsaber. We even have Lando asking Jannah where she’s from and when she said she didn’t know, he said to her “let’s find out”. -At the TROS premiere Kathleen Kennedy also said this: “We’re completing the saga. We’re not finishing the Skywalkers necessarily. They can always, in one way or another, reappear. For right now it is bringing it to a close.“ -Matt Martin gave us this hint: “We’ve seen characters come back before so it’s always comes down to the story being told.” -Dave Filoni, who would know how upset we all are, gave us a lovely Christmas present of Gandalf talking to Ahsoka saying “People thought I was dead too. Look how that turned out…” -Star Wars knows that Ben is their most popular character. I mean he’s winning the poll on their website by around 86-90%. The next highest is Rey at 3%. They can’t possibly be that stupid. Keeping Ben around equals money for Disney, and Disney definitely wants money.
Haven’t we always been right before, about basically everything in this story? Ben being redeemed. Reylo. Them having a Force bond. Ben not slaughtering the students at the Jedi temple. Snoke lying about creating the Force bond and it happening during the interrogation scene. Palpatine speaking through the Vader mask. Star Wars has lied to us about many things before, but they always leave in enough clues. They give you enough information that if you want to figure things out, you can, and as a group we’ve always been the ones to understand these clues.
Also one last thing: didn’t we predict before this movie that Ben would die and be brought back? We literally saw this coming. The one thing we didn’t realize was that this wasn’t the end of the story and that it’s still continuing on. And Star Wars, being extremely evil, just happened to cut off before the resurrection part.
TROS; What Really Happened?! (Reylo Kiss)
before I get started I was becoming more and more confused trying to piece this together (the editing of this film is just…wow) so forgive me if I’m not making total sense. I hope it’s clear though. I also just want to clarify that I LOVE their kiss. it’s so beautiful and it is just glorious, so please don’t think I’m hating on it. I’m just showing an example of how messy the film is in the this scene.
1. Ben Revives Rey
2. Rey Waking Up
3. Ben Then “Dies”
4. Leia Uses Her Life Force As She Fades (explains Maz happy smile) + the whole “belonging you seek is not behind you it is ahead.” line from TFA.
5. Rey Watches Ben Come Back (Relieved Look)
6. Ben RISES + Stares
7. THEN THE KISS + SMILE
that’s basically it. this could be 2 scenes merged together to try and make it look like he dies after the kiss. when really it’s the other way round. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. this could also just be reshoots. the kiss could’ve been a reshoot because they would’ve kissed in the ending (Adam was on the set of Tatooine) but as they cut that ending (Daisy stated the ending “the crew was shaken in a way I had not seen before. and I thought, ‘my god if this is people’s immediate reaction when the scene isn’t even ready, imagine what it will be like to see it in the movies, with the John Williams soundtrack and all that.”) they chose to make them kiss here instead? BUT WE CAN AGREE EVERYTHING IS SUPER WEIRD AF.