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YES i ship oracle and nightwing. NO i don't ship batgirl and robin. those are two ENTIRELY different things!
give dick grayson his leather jackets, overcoats, bottom-ups and turtlenecks back i'm sick of the hideous hoods and color coded tshirts and boring suits
younger comic fans thinking that tim drake is underrated is insane bc if you talk to any comic reader above the age of 30 and you say your favorite robin isn’t tim (or dick) they shoot you on the spot
I’m still thinking of how tiny Dick was when Two-Face beat the shit out of him. He still had his baby fat and was like 2 feet tall :(
I wish people talked about that as much as they talk about Jason and Joker & as much as ppl talk about Tim and “Joker Jr.” (even tho I’m pretty sure that’s only in Batman Beyond?)
Idk I feel like people only focus on what happened with Jason and Joker (which I kinda get cuz Jason died and Dick didn’t) but I feel like what happened with Two-Face is still within a similar realm and would still cause a shit ton of trauma for him. Same goes for Steph being tortured by Black Mask.
Yeah, the Two-Face beating is and remains a very hard read for me. The vibe the comic sets up is immaculate and terrible.
Bluntly depicting Dick beaten like a real child…
The equally blunt descriptions of his injuries…
Just how afraid and small he looks, even. The blood splatter. Eugh.
Like the final panel of the first two pages above hurts. Imo the whole vibe of this scene is the comic equivalent of when the music cuts.
I get why it isn’t remembered the same way, because Dick doesn’t bring it up. In fact, I think that’s why so many of his other character defining “traumas”, if you’d like to call them that, are neglected. Dick doesn’t talk about them. The narrative doesn’t bring them up, nor other characters. On his end, I assume it’s either out of feeling like he doesn’t deserve/want the pity, or because he feels like other things are more important. This is only one instance of many, and not even the most famous one. The most famous instance, bar none, is probably either the sweeping under the rug of Tarantula or Forever Evil and the various shenanigans surrounding Spyral. Those aren’t referenced either.
Jason is a squeaky wheel as far as his issues with the Joker and his death goes, so of course he gets the narrative and fandom grease. This is something he, and on a meta level the publisher, wants us to remember as a foundational trauma. But it does suck that someone like Dick (or Stephanie, as you mentioned) can’t process or acknowledge experiences with potentially similar developmental implications, either out of their own character’s reluctance to talk about it or an editorial desire to keep their characters lighter to the general audience.
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barbara gordon, nightwing (2016-)
both Cass’s introduction in Batman (1940) #567 and Batgirl 2000 really hammered in the Cass-dog parallels (in the form of symbolizing how David Cain violently stripped Cass of her personhood) but looking back it’s such an insane way to tell your audience that the protagonist’s abusive father from hell will always love her unconditionally
Batman (1940) #567
Batgirl (2000) #71
Batgirl (2000) #22
back to posting, here he is, the boy wonder
Dick’s interest in literate and plays and poems and music (he sings). So many forms of art that require talking and storytelling. When Bruce says in Batman: odyssey “Robin… loves a good story”. And yeah Dick really will just sit and listen to Bruce go on about his woes (sometimes because Dick prompted him to) and the lessons he learned in his life.
“I need to trust (Roy) is as stupidly curious as I am” — thinks Dick in Nightwing: old friends, new enemies.
“I could take him down now. But I want to hear more” — Dick in Nightwing (1996) issue 61.
Dick’s civilian cover for why he’s so interested in crimes in Nightwing (1996) is that he’s writing a book.
(And yes Dick’s favorite genre is mystery especially when grounded in real world logic).
I imagine that as he got older Dick is probably too busy working himself to death to read but still, Dick’s interest in novels, dramas, music—that I think was most prominent when he was a kid–teen in pre-crisis—is so important to me (because I too love stories) and I wish it was used more. Like it could inspiration for a career in a no capes au. Something he and Jason bond over. Or just a door for literary references in fics/comics. And/or a flaw. Because yeah Dick loves a good mystery (especially a murder mystery). He’ll even go out of his way to find one to solve. I imagine that would get him into real trouble eventually.
Fanon prioritizing Dick’s acrobatics as a hobby/career/activity he just loves doing vs canon prioritizing his crime solving (being a detective) as a hobby/career/activity he just loves doing
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speaking of babs’ obsession with autonomy they really should be exploring that in breakout this is such a missed opportunity
I’m recently reading a lot of Bronze Age Batman comics and I can’t stop thinking about how well Cass would have fit into this pre-crisis Batfam. Like minus the racism and sexism of the area ofc I think Cass would absolutely thrive in these dramatic sometimes outlandish plots. Her body reading ability would probably be taken to the next level and she’d get to fight actual monsters. If Dick and Cass grew up as siblings in the Bronze Age I imagine they would fight for Babs/Bruce’s attention and approval but then inexplicably get along just fine every other issue. It would be so much fun.
Ohh and with Cass’s interest in tv + dancing and Dick’s interest in plays what if they did a show/school play together?
I’m recently reading a lot of Bronze Age Batman comics and I can’t stop thinking about how well Cass would have fit into this pre-crisis Batfam. Like minus the racism and sexism of the area ofc I think Cass would absolutely thrive in these dramatic sometimes outlandish plots. Her body reading ability would probably be taken to the next level and she’d get to fight actual monsters. If Dick and Cass grew up as siblings in the Bronze Age I imagine they would fight for Babs/Bruce’s attention and approval but then inexplicably get along just fine every other issue. It would be so much fun.
Thought about Cass. We know she hates murder, but what does she think of murderers themselves. Like, if some guy killed another guy and the guilt felt guilty, would she still knock him out, or would she pull a “Go be free.”
Basically, what’s Cass’s thoughts about a killer.
Cass fights every bit as hard to save killers as she does to save the innocent. She is every bit as committed to the belief that everybody can change and deserves a second chance as she is committed to saving every life. That's why she only ever hits badguys exactly as hard as she needs to to stop them while hurting them as little as possible. If a murderer wanted to change, she would fight the whole goddamn world and happily die to give them that chance. Cass has to try to believe there's hope for everybody, even murderers, because she is one. That's a huge core pillar to her character.
Cassandra Cain, David Cain, and Ornamentalism
Batgirl (2000) #1 opens with the above panels - a rose puzzle being assembled, David saying "You can take off the blindfolds now," a shot of a young Cass, and then someone else saying "What's with the camera?" Immediately there is a focus on visuality - the blindness of the "blindfolds" and the eye of the "camera" - and a link between Cass and objects. The rose puzzle precedes child Cass' appearance, connecting the object Cass is handling with Cass herself.
Personhood, objecthood, and visuality are themes that underlie Cass' relationship with her father David. They are also themes that pop up in Anne Anlin Cheng's ornamentalism, a theory of Asiatic femininity. Ornamentalism describes how Asian women are commonly depicted as aesthetic, decorative objects. (The theory has way more to it but for this post that's what I'll focus on! Highly recommend reading the whole thing!)
I'll be looking at ornamentalism within Cass' narrative, mostly through David but also other White people in Cass' life. This is mostly an in-universe reading, although an examination of how writers use Cass as an ornament would certainly be interesting as well! As always this is just my own interpretation!!!
it should be illegal to hate barbara gordon actually